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Monday, April 24, 2006

Cutler available at 16?

My former colleague at ESPN, John Clayton, is reporting that Jay Cutler's stock is dropping such that he will be available when the Dolphins pick at No. 16.

While I don't know who Clayton's sources are, I can vouch for the fact the guy works the phones like crazy and has good connections. So I believe the possibility of Cutler dropping to Miami is real.

If the Vanderbilt product gets past the Cardinals at No. 10 (they like Ernie Sims) and the Rams at No. 11 (they need defensive help), it truly is possible you will see Cutler on the board when the Dolphins are on the clock.

That will lead to a very interesting moment because Nick Saban will then have to show his true hand. He will either take Cutler and, in so doing, tell the world he doesn't have great confidence that Daunte Culpepper is Miami's quarterback of the future.

Or he'll pass on Cutler and that will show us that the coach was simply putting out one of his patented smoke screens when he said last week that having Culpepper and even adding Joey Harrington, "does not preclude" the Dolphins from picking another QB.

So you are the Miami GM: If Cutler, who has perhaps the strongest arm in the draft, is on the board when Miami picks, should Saban pull the trigger or walk away?

I say walk away, baby, this is no time to give birth to future quarterback controversies. This is no time to strengthen the BENCH!

This is a time to improve the team with a starting OLB, CB, or S.


Blogger CubanCulebra said...

"That will lead to a very interesting moment because Nick Saban will then have to show his true hand. He will either take Cutler and, in so doing, tell the world he doesn't have great confidence that Daunte Culpepper is Miami's quarterback of the future."

But Mando, it doesn't have to be that way at all. Now, will you write about it like that? Well, probably. You've already started it. For what makes a better story: Saban adding value to the Miami Dolphins by drafting a guy he'll probably get 3 first day picks for in one or two years? No way brother. After all, wheres the controversy there? But Saban taking a QB because it is a very real possibility that Culpepper may not play? Well, we got something there don't we? Then the questions of doubt can realy start to pile up. Then doubt leads to anger, "anger leads to hate, and hate leads to suffering." (<- Yoda's da man) And ofcourse, all of that leads to bigger stories, promptly sold newspapers, yada, yada, yada... Listen, go ahead and dig a dead horse out of it's grave, beat him, burry him, exhume him again, and continue the bashing(redundancy is my point here) with the Pepper story if you wish, but the fact remains that any RATIONAL Dolfan has already come to grips with the reality that Culpepper may not play. That was a part of the risk, as it would have been with Brees. And it was the ONLY reason either player was available. Would you not make that Pepper trade 10 out of 10 times if you could? Even if the doctors came to you and assured you it would take a full season to recover? I'd pull the trigger on that baby every day of the week and twice on Sundays (don't make me pull out my revolver metaphors again). I've said it once and I'll never cease my decree- the Culpepper trade was the steal of the decade EVEN if Culpepper NEVER plays a down again in the NFL. Now your thinking I'm crazy. Fine. For that kind of talent, for the potential of that kind of talent, for the minor prospect of the slight possibility of an iota to own a piece of that kind of talent, especially where Miami has missed it the most, it was well worth it. Just the simple prospect of it. It is the very reason GM's will continue to give Terrel Owens a shot, the same rationale behind Mike Shanahan still being interested in Ricky Williams despite all of his shenanigans, the valadation for a team actually selecting Marcus Vick with a pick in this year's draft.

So get on the boat Mando! Be a SABAN SUPPORTER. So what if it's all a smokescreen come Saturday? Heck, help us out. Write about how desperate Saban wants Cutler so the Viking will give us unecessary draft picks to move up a spot. Be a fan dude. I don't think Cutler will fall to 16, and whats more, I don't believe Saban will take him if he does. But if I'm wrong, if Saban does take him, I'll take solace in the knowledge that the people in that war room are not Dave Puntstedt or Rick Spewman. And that alone will make me smile.

12:59 AM  
Anonymous swine said...

The fact of the matter is, the Dolphins don't need a QB right now. Not in the first round anyway. We have a strong team that has plenty of other gaps to fill. I think the last few years have gotten all of us fans scared poopless about what it means to have a bad one, but WE HAVE A QUARTERBACK NOW. Let us all rest in peace, and let us draft a player that will actually be able to help us in the next couple of years. Now, that said, hopefully Cutler WILL be available at 16 so we can shop that pick and get some nice value for it , as Culebra suggested.

1:42 AM  
Blogger Chris said...

If Young and/or Cutler are on the board when the Dolphins pick, I write “Vince Young” on the card as fast as my hand could do it. Same goes for Cutler if he’s the last of the “Big 3 QBs” left standing. Yes, the Dolphins have Culpepper and are all but certain to acquire Joey Harrington from the Lions. Still, a prize like Young or Cutler gives the Dolphins wonderful options for the future in terms of long term value that can be kept or traded at a later date. It’s the smart play.

9:24 AM  
Blogger el couttso said...

I think that Nick should just stick to the needs of our team. I hope we strive to improve our Defense, I'd even like to see us try to trade out of our spot for a 2nd or 3rd round pick, and it would seem easier now that there is a faint possibility for Jay Cutler to be available to whomever would like to trade up for him.

That said, if Cutler becomes the next "Big" Ben Rothlisberger then everyone, including me, will be kicking themselves in the ass about not picking him up. But that is not the way we can think of this, especially with Daunte and Joey (Maybe) waiting to lead a more than capable team deep into the playoffs.

So, that said, DOLPHINS SUPER BOWL '07!!!!

10:20 AM  
Anonymous roberto said...

I agree 100% with CubanCulebra. Sadly, Cutler wont be available when we pick.

10:35 AM  
Blogger The Dude said...

These so-called sources that John Clayton gets his news from are a mixture of agents, coaches, GMs and team scouts. This is just more of that "pre-draft smoke screen" in my opinion. Cutler won't last past the Ravens, if that. A potential "franchise QB" is always a rare and coveted commodity in this league and there's no way one of the Top 3 QB prospects gets past 15 teams.

With that said -- if, for whatever reason, he did happen to fall to us at 16, as GM, I'd draft him and wait for offers or keep him. Value is value. Cutler looks like the real deal. I know it sounds irrational and crazy but I'd take him if he was still available.

11:09 AM  
Blogger jeepmanmatt said...

I will be very suprised if Cutler is available at 16. Being from Ky., I have seen this guy dismantle my Wildcats many times, I know that's not saying much, but it is very evident that the talent is there. If he's available at 16, Saban has to pick this guy.

I'll use Bob Baffert as an example. What's he won? Umpteen Ky. Derbys, that's because he's always running at least two or three horses and he's got more on the back burner. You can never have enough horses in the stable!!

Go Phins!!

12:40 PM  
Anonymous Tom in Nashville, TN said...

For what it's worth, I think that if the blue chip immediate help for the defense isn't there at 16 like we hope (Chad Greenway, Jimmy Williams, either of the 2 top WR Jackson or Holmes), then Saban would certainly jump on Cutler. However, I think you would see an immediate trade (a la Eli Manning) for either more picks or an established star plying another position. That, to me, would be the "value" he spoke of during his media conference days ago...

1:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Give me Ernie Simms, I see Shawn Merriman part II.

4:25 PM  
Blogger The Greg said...

Jay Cutler will NOT be available at 16!!!

Plain and simple, no better way to say it. But if he is, I say you have to try REALLY, REALLY hard to trade-down. We have a few needs which we can certainly fill with 1 or 2 more picks. If no one offers a reasonable trade, I would probably take him. (In Saban speak) Value is value. But that's not gonna happen anyway.

On a side note, is anyone else hoping the Lions stall until they just lose Harrington?? It'd be nice to get him in before minicaps, but it'd be nicer to get him for free. And teams would be more willing to believe we'd actually pick Cutler, if he were still around (which he won't be).

5:09 PM  
Anonymous JoeMama said...

Cubanculebra, you are a good writer. You should try to do it professionally.

5:12 PM  
Blogger John Dolfan said...

I am of the school that says you draft value and not immediate need. When Don Shula was asked why he took a QB in the first round @ 27 when he didnt need one he said, "When you see a great QB available on the board, you take him." That seemed to work out pretty well.

The fact is that Daunte is damaged goods right now. It definitely would NOT hurt to have another capable QB on the team. Cutler could either be groomed for the role of eventual starter or traded away for draft picks (anyone remember what JJ did with Steve Walsh?).

For the record I think Clayton is smoking some strong weed that he got from Ricky because Cutler will NOT be available at 16. Moreover, Armando please do NOT be anyone's, including the Nick-tator, supporter. Instead be the anti-thesis of Labatard, an objective reporter.

11:28 PM  
Blogger CubanCulebra said...

With all-due-respect John, you're naive. Objectivity in the news? Please. Maybe in Sheridan, Wyoming population 15,804. In Miami, population 382,894, you need a dab of spin and pinch of spice if you expect notoriety. Sure, I find it repulsive- journalists having to make the news instead of reporting it. Most of that helped poster Ricky Williams the monster of the NFL. Nevermind that the guy doesn't beat women, sell cocaine, or get involved in brawls with knife or guns where actual physical harm may occur. The guy smokes weed. Somebody get the inquisition on the phone! "The media is on their way, sir." And I wouldn't blame the Armando Salguero's or Jason Cole's of the world if they had to take such measures when reporting. Why would I? They didn't create this "Darwinian, dog eat dog world." They were only told to survive in it, perhaps even prosper in the progress. All I'm saying is, if Mando is going to put a little spin on a Dolphin story, hows about a positive spin? Am I the only one jaded from the negativity this team has had to endure due to a former head coach who's inconceivable idiocy stretches beyond the realms of this very existence? Is optimism for a current head coach who is resuscitating our team and revitalizing the hearts of young and old fans alike to a state of eminent expectations too much to ask? I appologize if it is, but I won't stop demanding it. You know, it's curious that you mention Le Batard, John, because even though Jason and Armando probably work as industrious as Le Batard does, if not more meticulous, they have yet to sit next to Tony Kornheiser on a Nationaly televised platform. So much for objectivity.

6:12 AM  
Blogger John Dolfan said...

"With all-due-respect John". What a farce intro. It is tantamount to placing the word apparently in front of a mean-spirited observation. This way you said it, but you didn't.

So you like to flex your intellectual muscles while calling me naive? Try this one. A sociologist named Max Weber once said, in essence, that true objectivity can never be achieved, but the struggle is what is important. Words with greater truth were never spoken. If you have become so jaded that those words mean nothing to you then I am afraid you have become something much worse than naive.

Quite frankly LeBatard is a well spoken, well informed, good looking, sell out. It doesnt surprise me that he has been on television. All that proves is that with the right marketing, many things are possible. FYI Armando has been on television plenty of times, but some probably before your time. Does the name, "Calling All Sports" mean anything to you?

Finally cube, I like your spirit and enjoy your point of view (honestly), but if you think that being intellectually verbose all the time is going to impress the masses, think again. I promise you that whatever your educational credentials may be, they do not trump mine or many other authors on this blog. Make your point because we are all interested in what you have to say, but save the put-downs.

In the immortal words of Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?".

7:15 PM  
Blogger CubanCulebra said...

The irony. I actually ment that all due respect John and after the "flex" line I'm not going to continue reading your post. This was one of the few times I wasn't trying to attack but simply make a point. If you felt it had "intellectual muscle" then I thank you. If you thought it was mean spirited, I appologize. Any other time I'd be up for a good tussle, but the Williams verdict has weakened my resolve. Again, my appologies.

To: joemama, thank you.

8:39 PM  

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