Dolphins asking questions about Groves' heart
The Dolphins are seriously re-examining their initial opinion of Auburn LB/DE Quintin Groves following the news that he underwent heart surgery late last month.
Groves reportedly sent letters to all 32 NFL teams to inform them of the surgery and allay any fears that might result in him dropping like a boulder in water during the upcoming draft. Groves' letter explained that his surgery, which is considered a minor procedure, was conducted to correct his Wolff-Parkinson-White Syndrome.
Wolff-Parkinson-White Syndrome means there's usually an extra conduction pathway in the heart that electrical signals use to reach the ventricles. The extra pathway often causes those electrical signals to arrive at the ventricles too soon. Symptoms or episodes of tachycardia (rapid heart rhythm) , dizziness, chest palpitations, fainting or cardiac arrest can be caused by this.
I know a lot about WPW because I was diagnosed with it in 1996. I am among the blessed ones that have no symptoms nor suffer from any episodes. But all Wolffies, as doctors call us, live with the knowledge that sudden death due to heart failure is possible in 0.6 percent of us.
Furthermore, people who do have episodes or symptoms require either medication or, in more serious cases, surgery. And that apparently includes Groves.
People with episodes of tachycardia can often be treated with medication. But sometimes such treatment doesn't work. That's when surgery is necessary. The point is surgery isn't necessary unless the condition is serious and does not respond to medication. Groves apparently was in this group of people.
The good news is if surgery is deemed successful, and it usually is given advanced medical science, the patient is considered cured. I hope Quintin Groves is cured.
I also hope the Dolphins do their research.
Groves reportedly sent letters to all 32 NFL teams to inform them of the surgery and allay any fears that might result in him dropping like a boulder in water during the upcoming draft. Groves' letter explained that his surgery, which is considered a minor procedure, was conducted to correct his Wolff-Parkinson-White Syndrome.
Wolff-Parkinson-White Syndrome means there's usually an extra conduction pathway in the heart that electrical signals use to reach the ventricles. The extra pathway often causes those electrical signals to arrive at the ventricles too soon. Symptoms or episodes of tachycardia (rapid heart rhythm) , dizziness, chest palpitations, fainting or cardiac arrest can be caused by this.
I know a lot about WPW because I was diagnosed with it in 1996. I am among the blessed ones that have no symptoms nor suffer from any episodes. But all Wolffies, as doctors call us, live with the knowledge that sudden death due to heart failure is possible in 0.6 percent of us.
Furthermore, people who do have episodes or symptoms require either medication or, in more serious cases, surgery. And that apparently includes Groves.
People with episodes of tachycardia can often be treated with medication. But sometimes such treatment doesn't work. That's when surgery is necessary. The point is surgery isn't necessary unless the condition is serious and does not respond to medication. Groves apparently was in this group of people.
The good news is if surgery is deemed successful, and it usually is given advanced medical science, the patient is considered cured. I hope Quintin Groves is cured.
I also hope the Dolphins do their research.
posted by Armando Salguero at 11:22 AM
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And I hope, Salguero, you become one of the .6 people who drop dead on the spot.
I'll miss the blog, tho.
anonymous ...
that is f*%$ed up!!!
Keep up the good reporting Armando!!!
anonymous, that is the single most disgusting post I have ever seen on this blog. What a sorry excuse for a human being you are.
As for Groves, it was admirable that he sent the letter out. He could have been dishonest in trying to conceal it, especially with millions on the line.
That being said, I hope the Dolphins look seriously at a QB with that top pick in the second round...that is if they pass on Matt Ryan. I like Beck but they will regret passing on a QB in this draft if Beck doesn't pan out.
Keep up the great information and insight Mando.
Annon., If your comment was in jest it was not funny, but twisted. If Armando's blog is not to your liking, then go somewhere else. But like you said you would miss the blog. So keep posting and keep the hits coming for Armando.
'Mando,
I have read your blog religiously (and I'm not a religious man) for over a year now, but until now, I have not posted. That changed just now with the completely despicable post by Mr. Anonymous.
Please know that this Dol-fan admires, trusts, and greatly respects your work. Thank you! I'm stuck on the West Coast, but have been a Dol-Fan all my life, even growing up in N.H.
Keep up the good work, and if Sh%# Head anon shows up, the rest of us have your back.
Margino
wow ive never seen such a horrible comment in my life that guy is goin to burn bro. horrible shit.
--CJ
dats f'd up man,stupid. grooves might fall to us with our 2nd in 2nd rd possily if teams get scared ?
Parcells predominantly picks powerful, passionate players. Players possessing primadonna, partying, pot-smoking pre-dispositions plainly plague Parcells. Presuming Parcells' public posturing perplexes people, Parcells probably prays punking people pays proceeds. Possibly picking plentiful people provides powerful pull. Pick proven, productive, positive players. Possible pick - Paul Pozluzny... damn!
Yeah, even though it was likely a joke, it was a kind of inappropriate considering Armando is actually in that .6% or whatever it is. I'm not getting on a soap box over it though.
Thanks for the entry though Armando, I read that earlier and wondered how serious it was. Hopefully Groves is cured though and slips to us in round 2. That'd give us Jake Long, and a top prospect at that hybrid position, which seem to be the main to positions this trifecta is foucsing on.
Good Post, 'Mando. I wonder if Faneca, Hall or Pace suffer from the same ailment.
Dude, just because you (the drop-dead poster) are a total a-hole doesn't mean I want you to die...unbelievable. I'll be praying for you, man. Wow..
For some football though, while anything can happen to any of us at any time, football is a business, and unless I got some SERIOUS value on someone where a big question mark is concerning their health, let someone else take the risk. We're not great right now, anything before the second 2nd rounder is a big, big risk.
anonymous, just spend one second to think about what you just said.
Wow, you are the most %&ยง$%/ moron I've ever wasted some time to think about.
You should feel sorry about yourself.
To say something like that means you probably have an IQ of about 10. And a horse needs about 11.5 to fart, Think about it.
Ever heard about the thing called karma...
Man, I agree that the first post does not belong in here! What the &%$^ are you thinking??? Let's keep this about our Fins and keep that trash outta here! I say we give Groves the best medical evaluation and look to get him with the later 2nd round pick or possibly the 3rd rounder. I think based on the minor nature of the surgery that we should still target him early.
Great work Mando, keep the news coming!
Everyone is overreacting to what "anonymous" said. Everyone has their own opinions and I like everyone else has a right to read what people post. If he posted a few more things like that it would not bug me to say the least. I will read them and grin and admire this web blog for being available to us to post intellegent comments like that. I think they will take a CB with the 1st overall pick and a FB in the 2nd round.
This guy doesn't need to be playing football. And I hope and am sure we won't draft him. We have enough problems. After carrying players like Duh'ta and others we need to be smart.
Ramsterone
we might be looking for a FB since Regin Mauia got arrested yesterday for punching some guy in the face, we all know the tuna will love that
Mando...
Great info only problem it's only piece meal....more info is need with that story. Such as...How does this affect the Phins draft strategy? Where would this guy fall, if he did NOT have this condition? With the surgery complete, where would he now fall in our draft? What type of prospect is he? What is his potential if he is drafted with the team? Where would he fit in the big picture with the team? Oh thats right, you can't answer these questions because you only, as you your self put it, "REGURGITATE info you hear somewhere else" instead of ACTUAL investigative journalism. Come on Mando, give us meat and potatos in the story, not just dressing.
Mike W.
hey salguero,
Sorry about the comment. I was only teying to be a smart-@ss, I ended up coming off as more of a Dumb-@ss. Next time I will post with more care. Sorry to my fellow phin fans as well. I will be more tactful in the future.
Mike: I regurgitate sour meat loaf, not information. I give you guys information other people give me. As all your questions only beg speculation, they don't require me to repeat what others have told me because those people wouldn't know for certain, either. Please come with better questions that require factual answers.
As to the first guy who posted on here: Get help before somebody throws a net over you.
Martin K's post was brought to you by...the letter "P".
ps God be with you Armando
to the first poster;I am going to send Mauia to kick your ass....JEJEJEJ
I'm not sure why everyone is so hell bent on us drafting a QB. This is a team that has many holes to fill and I do agree that QB to this point is a need. But does anyone really know how well Beck and McCown will perform, especially if there is an offensive line in front of them? I like Henne and Brohm.....but man, we have an awful lot of holes to fill. It think taking a QB in the second round is a wasted pick, especially when there are no guarantees that the guy will work out. I want to see OL, LB, CB, WR and TE improved before we start thinking QB. Let's give the two guys we have a chance first.
That frist post gets my vote for post of the year. I lol'd IRL.
I wish 'anonymous' who 'hopes' for such a tragedy would get a life. Go play hopscotch, pick-up-sticks or some kind of kids game. That's level this comment fits in! Disgusting to waste space with such immature comments ...while hiding behind a monitor.
KEEP up the great work, Sal!!!
Armando...dont always agree with you...but always look forward to your stories.
Always respect your work...you are always one of the first with the breaking stories!
Keep it up
I HADE THIS EXACT PROCEDURE DONE ON ME SEVEN YEAR AGO, AFTER LIVING WITH THIS ALL MY LIKE....HE FINE.....PROBLEM GONE, CUT HAS HEALED.....GETIT...MUCH TO DON ABOUT NOTHING.
I HADE THIS EXACT PROCEDURE DONE ON ME SEVEN YEAR AGO, AFTER LIVING WITH THIS ALL MY LIKE....HE FINE.....PROBLEM GONE, CUT HAS HEALED.....GETIT...MUCH TO DON ABOUT NOTHING.
I certainly don't hope you die, but your still an ass. I read your stuff because I'm a Dolphins fan living in Kansas, and will take news where ever I find it. But I do wish The Herald could find more decent Dolphins- beat writers. I can't imagine it would be very hard to upgrade the likes of you and Darlington.
Mark W.
Armando,
Regarding Reagan Mauia's arrest: How long before Greg Cote writes a column telling us why this shows how tough the Fins are going to be next year, like he did last year when Joey Porter's thugs assaulted Jones?
anonymous, you're a sorry excuse for a human being beotch! a tough guy behind your little keyboard; regardless of what you think of someone, (and i doubt armando has ever given you a reason to wish him death,) you never do that. Stay in Kansas punk! I'm glad you're gone.
anonymous, you're a sorry excuse for a human being beotch! a tough guy behind your little keyboard; regardless of what you think of someone, (and i doubt armando has ever given you a reason to wish him death,) you never do that. Stay in Kansas punk! I'm glad you're gone.
For crying out loud. Can't we see a marketing ploy? Faxes. Holy smoke that is the best way to get a price up. Lets do a fax. I wouldn't touch this asshole unless I really seen some times at the com bines.
.6 percent is barely legible. I get .6 percent hard on. Well I am out of the bedroom.
No offense Armando, but getting diagnossed with a .6 percent heart problem doesn't put you in the Chrones, diabetes, cancer corner.
after reading martin's "P" post I have to go pee.....
Calling people names and wishing them to drop dead (while you sit safely behind the soft glow of your computer monitor) shows your lack of intelligence and balls. I suspect that these people would never say something like that if they were face to face. Get a life anonymous. NYScott
Thanks for the scoop Armando. I can't believe the level of abuse and criticism you receive for being a writer for the Herald. I hope they pay you well.
Anyways, it is too bad for Groves this may hurt his value in the draft. The condition is most likely low risk although I'm no expert when it comes to medical conditions. He will probably still get his chance but most likely at a lower salary.
Armando:
What an extremely insensitive, ignorant and uneducated remark by that cowardly anonymous poster, being religious people of course we must forgive these trespasses, but they do try our patience. Regardless, your health is the prime issue, and you seem knowledgeable about your rare but serious condition. Fortunately, you can make simple alterations to your lifestyle so you live a long, productive life. Moderate your diet, eliminate caffeine, nicotine and alcohol, and keep your weight within a reasonable limit. Maintain a close relationship with your personal physician and have regular checkups, I'm sure you're already following this type of regiment. My speciality is not cardiology so I do not wish to offer an opinion beyond what your physician I'm sure has already suggested.
Take good care of yourself, and try to limit stress. I know with the type of career you have and the pressures your industry is undergoing this is easier said than done. But find strength and perseverance through faith, that will always lead to good outcomes.
Best to you and yours, brother, keep practicing the subtle sarcasm!
G. Restrepo III
Coral Gables
And please Armando..i hope you consider me your friend.
G Restrepo
I have never seen a more imbecilic and misguided post here. Armando, keep up the good work, and Tuna, please draft Jake Long.
Long time reader, first time poster.
Anonymous:
Your first post was truly classless, tasteless, disgusting, and totally inappropriate. If the apology in these posts is truly from you, then good on you for recognizing your error in judgement, being a man about it, and apologizing (anonymous as it may be). That should be the end of it. If that apology was not from you... that's another story.
Armando:
I, like many others, follow your blog very regularily, and while I, and many others, don't always agree with your analysis, I am appreciative of the work you do, and look forward to the blog posts. In my opinion, sometimes they are great, sometimes they are crap, most of the time informative, overall a pretty good blog. I am a Dolphins fan from the Canadian prairies, I'll take any information I can get. Keep it up.
DA
My best case scenario mock draft for the Dolphins:
1ST Pick: Chris Long or Jake Long
2nd Round Pick: Chad Henne
2nd Round Pick: Mario Manningham
3rd Round Pick: Jamaal Charles
4th Round Pick: Martin Rucker
Folks, I appreciate all the support following that initial post. Thank you again.
I'm sure the first poster was simply trying to get some attention even anonymously. I have no ill feelings about the post or poster. Anyway, for me to be absent of the world is to be present with the Lord.
So let's get back to football ...
dont get all da fuss im a thug here one day cud b gone da next odds 50 50 i think GGthuGG peace out
I applaud Quintin Groves' honesty in informing all 32 teams of his medical condition. He could have covered it up until after the draft. Speaks well of his character.
Hopefully, he falls to us in late Rd 2 or in Rd 3
Was that even English?
Fins Mock II
1 - OT J. Long
2a - ILB C. Lofton
2b - QB C. Henne
3 - CB J. Ikegwuonu
4 - OG J. Grecco
I would be happy with this scenario.
oscar_g
For the blogger who wants the fins to draft CB J. IKEGWUONA, can the fins please draft players that are healty!!!!. Ikegwuona blew out his knee cap last year and he is not even close to 100 percent. We need players to play NOWWWW. This team lacks talent. For the cornerback position I think Patrick Lee fits Parcells style a big corner (with speed) who can tackle and hit as well.
Before Ikegwuonu was injured he was considered 1st rnd talent.
Getting him in the 3rd rnd would be a good deal.
Fins took a flyer once on an injured CB named Patrick Surtain and he became a good player.
hey u can find da thug at rickys on grande ave in grove if u gots a prob aint nutin but a thug banging day in day out gots to make my Gs GGthuGG peace out
To the guy who said "stay in Kansas" - I wasn't the one who told Salgeuro to drop dead. That was someone else, doof-ass.
Mark W.
I can only hope that the surgery can heal him completely. It is terrible for someone to work his whole life to attain something so great as to playing in the NFL and he has this to deal with. It just shows us that there is more to life than football.
Armando, you do great work, People who undermine your posts are complete idiots considering they are at best, armchair quarterbacks. you are 10 times more informed than the public. We all in this blog need to understand That.
Hows about we not call each other nasty names for no real reason, huh? You can disagree with each other's opinions, but name calling is pointless.
Some of the comments directed at the person who posted the out of line comment were just about as bad as the original. If you are holding yourself to a higher standard, you can't really respond with more of the same. Implying that he should have what ever evils set upon him (Maiua attacking him, for one example) is just as wrong as what he said. He apologized, and Armando accepted.
Calling Armando, and other respondents nasty names doesn't cut it either, Mark, or the other guy going after Mark. You obviously have valid issues with Armando's reporting, and voicing that beef is valid, and may effect a positive change in the future, but tying it to a snide slur somewhat diminishes your point.
I became a Dolphan because the team played smart, and classy, while continuing to win. If we hold to a level of class, and are able to debate different issues intelligently, we will be a credit to our team, instead of being poor examples of what this team has traditionally been about.
Mr. Salguero, would you give us a rundown on offensive tackles, specially LTs, that have been drafted in the past in late rounds that became pro-bowlers or exceptional players for their teams, without being that much coveted coming out of college. We know we can find diamond in the rough in late rounds for other more glamorous positions like QB, WR and RB. So what about offensive line and defensive line? For the blog topic, I say just let the team do their homework about health issues on any of the prospects, and let the doctors decide if it is risky or not to pick Groves or not.
Art in GA.
Armando,
Obviously you know a lot more of this than us, so you can explain what the surgery means, is the failure corrected an Groves is cured or he need treatment and is exposed to the risks even after the surgery?
It's good you don't have any problems with it
Manuel
Armando,
Please die of your condition as quckly as possible.
That may facilitate getting a Herald blog runner who is NOT an arrogant, warmonger, bible thumping moron.
That is all.
Whoever wished Armando to drop dead is a complete jerk. How would you like it if somebody said that about you. I feel sorry for you people like you. You are obviously in desperate need of help. Armando i apologize on the behalf of all these evil spirited so called fans. Keep up the good work and don't listen to those who are just plain ignorant.
Anonymous... At least have the balls to not be anonymous with your errogant comment. What an idiot!
Thanks Mando for your hard work in keeping us well informed.
to the guy that said that comment, your an idiot...and the rest of you idk why you are wasting so much time n giving this guy the time of day, hes worthless.
Armando is a grown man,its over...
I would love to get Groves big time...If it wasnt for his toe injury this yr he would of probabl been right up there with Chris n Gholston. What i love about Groves is that he has expereince in playing the 3-4OLB and in my opnion will make the smoothest transition to that position than both Gholston n Chris especially in coverage. The guys also ran teh fastest 40 out of all the DEs n like 3rd fastest if he had ran with the LBs. I liek him alot.
Aslong as Doctors check him out really good n he doesnt fall in that .06% then im all good in tkaing him with the 32nd pick.
If we can leave the 1st day with Jake Long, Groves, and maybe Antoine Cason, Patrick Lee, or Chilo Rachal that would be just amazing.
is armando legal?
Anytime Armando. In the ring. You and me .
HA! I love it when another anonymous tells me to say my real identity. Then the same user spells 'arrogant' errogant. Keys aren't even close.
Yeah that's MANDOOOOOOOOO's fan base. Followers and uneducated idiots.
1st, I'm a real dude, just annoyed at all the steps to "sign-up"... thus, anonymous. "Ironically", the first comment was so negative. My bet is that it was written my Armando, invigorating debate, and infusing controversy. The Herald pays/keeps/recognizes writers on popularity and performance... those posts encourage 100's of comments in support of Armando and the original "poster". Think about it guys. All this garbage is a game. Yeah, sometimes this stuff is good and insightful... but mostly BS garbage, playing y'all like a fiddle.
In the ring? Are you kidding me? Who actually goes to a ring? What, do you want to practice the Marques of Queensberry Rules also? Do you want to use 8 oz or 12 oz gloves? What an idiot you are.
If you're going to mix it up with somebody, you don't talk so much crap and just do it. You are like a yapping yorkie. Just shut up and do what you think you can do.
what saddens me is the response many of you give to the first post i agree that it was a terrible statement but a problem in this world is attackiong the attacker some spoke of karma and how terrible a person he is but go back and read yoru responses does your defending Salguero or attacking the poster make any of you a beter person than the original anon in this blog?
salguero your latest post shows your lack of maturity i now believe that you likely did write the first post
Armando,
Peter King, of SI.com, reports that we have given Jake Long a deadline w/ contract negotiations. Any truth to that?
ESPN reporting Taylor traded to SF for a 1st and 3rd rounder
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Hey ring boy, deleted you again.
"Hey ring boy, deleted you again"
That's because you're a phony coward Armando. No surprise. You bible thumpers and flag wavers are all alike; you preach one thing and do the opposite.
Wrong, ring boy. I am not a coward. My name is on this blog. People know I'm at Dolphins camp about 200 days out of the year so I'm not hiding anywhere. I am not the one typing anonymously.
And I make no apologies for loving God and this country.
I admire Quentin Groves for what he did. I hope he's cured and does well in the NFL.
I think of Ronny Turiaf with the Lakers who had a corrective procedure done to his heart that saved his life. Today Ronny Turiaf is an integral highly-valued part of the Laker rotation. (Kobe's great, but having the right supporting cast, coaching, and maturity is why the Lakers are doing so well.)
What we find out in this draft and in every draft is which players who have the gifted talent turn out to be busts because they lacked the heart & grit to make it.
Don't pay any attention to that last comment by anonymous. He is just a liberal piece of sh*t who represents a small minority of the population. He's an unfortuante waste of human life.
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