Josh McCown most likely candidate to start?
Just had a very pleasant interview with Josh McCown, who is my early pick to be the Dolphins starting quarterback in the season-opener.
I lobbed the typical softballs for McCown, you know, how he's getting acclimated and stuff like that. But there were also some pointed questions during the interview that he handled well -- like a routine snap from center.
I asked him why we should believe he can be a success in Miami when he hasn't been in Oakland, Detroit or Arizona. I asked him if he believes he can be one of those late-blooming QBs such as Rich Gannon that become proficient later in his career. I asked him specifically what he believes will make him better in Miami?
So what did he say? If I tell you here, there is no need for you to read my column. I will post it here once it posts on The Herald site and update this post with more quotes.
I will tell you that McCown (pictured) isn't shy about the subject of the open quarterback competition.
"I don't feel like there's anything standing in my way that says, 'Hey, you can't be the starter,' " he told me.
Personally I believe his experience will be the over-riding factor in him earning the starting job at the beginning of the season. I think he has every bit the physical tools as John Beck or Chad Henne.
But McCown is, after all, entering his seventh season and has played in 44 NFL games. Henne is a rookie and Beck has played in only five NFL games.
Anyway, give me your breakdown of the Dolphins quarterback spot. Tell me if you agree that McCown is the guy -- at least early on -- and if you disagree, tell me why. Please have a better reason than, 'Because I'm smarter than you, Armando.'
Because you're not.
[ I wish to publicly thank Harvey Greene and his Dolphins media relations department for setting up the talk with McCown. I rip the Dolphins a lot when they act like the media is the enemy. So I want to be fair when they are cooperative on issues that don't involve competitive advantage.]
I lobbed the typical softballs for McCown, you know, how he's getting acclimated and stuff like that. But there were also some pointed questions during the interview that he handled well -- like a routine snap from center.
I asked him why we should believe he can be a success in Miami when he hasn't been in Oakland, Detroit or Arizona. I asked him if he believes he can be one of those late-blooming QBs such as Rich Gannon that become proficient later in his career. I asked him specifically what he believes will make him better in Miami?
So what did he say? If I tell you here, there is no need for you to read my column. I will post it here once it posts on The Herald site and update this post with more quotes.
I will tell you that McCown (pictured) isn't shy about the subject of the open quarterback competition.
"I don't feel like there's anything standing in my way that says, 'Hey, you can't be the starter,' " he told me.
Personally I believe his experience will be the over-riding factor in him earning the starting job at the beginning of the season. I think he has every bit the physical tools as John Beck or Chad Henne.
But McCown is, after all, entering his seventh season and has played in 44 NFL games. Henne is a rookie and Beck has played in only five NFL games.
Anyway, give me your breakdown of the Dolphins quarterback spot. Tell me if you agree that McCown is the guy -- at least early on -- and if you disagree, tell me why. Please have a better reason than, 'Because I'm smarter than you, Armando.'
Because you're not.
[ I wish to publicly thank Harvey Greene and his Dolphins media relations department for setting up the talk with McCown. I rip the Dolphins a lot when they act like the media is the enemy. So I want to be fair when they are cooperative on issues that don't involve competitive advantage.]
posted by Armando Salguero at 2:35 PM
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here is a reason, 69.4 passer rating in his 6th nfl season
here's another reason, the RAIDERS didnt want him!...NEXT
I think beck starts. I don't see McCown as a Parcells guy. Beck in my opinion will impress in training camp and preseason and be given every opportunity to be the future for this franchise. With that said I don't think it is unrealistic for Josh to start. It's either him or Beck in my opinion.
Why would we want him in there making mistakes an not getting any better when beck or henne could be making thse same mistakes and growing with there young team.
you don't see mccown as a parcells guy yet he was the one that signed him. lol. mccown will be the starter because he's getting paid 3.5 million dollars and he's the most experienced.
McCown is a proven backup and thats where he'll stay!!!
Beck will have the nod come season start and will either be the man or showcase himself for a trade in the offseason 09 when I eventually think Henne will take over. McCown has never proven he's anything more than an insurance policy as a backup, to be honest wouldn't be surprised to see him on his way again at the end of this season if they keep Beck and Henne.
How could he not be a Parcells guy, Parcells picked him. I think he was brought in to push Beck along. If Beck cant beat him then he will start. I still think that Beck is this managements guy. They even said Beck, Brown and Ginn will be a core for this team for a long time.
Armando, I would tell you my reasons why I believe McCown won't be the starter, but then you wouldn't have to register to read my future column.
I think we can agree that Beck has the tools to be a successful QB in the NFL. He was ranked high on many draft boards last year, which doesn’t mean he will be successful, but does indicate he has what it takes to grow in this league given the right circumstances. Remember that Beck managed to play in Phili without turning the ball over or get sacked by Jim Johnson’s blitzing defense. However, Beck did an about-face the next three games turning the ball over more than Tiki did before Coughlin taught him how to hold a football. Nevertheless, I strongly believe his work ethic will win him the starting job. I know LT spent little to no time in the weight room or studying film and was rewarded by the Tuna. But #56 was an anomaly; for the most part Bill rewards his players for hard work. And from what I have read, John Beck is the hardest working player we have. This is not to say, if he performs poorly, Bill will allow Tony to pull him out quicker than Soliai runs to McDonalds.
beck is not the future anymore. he may not even be the present. mccown is getting paid alot more so he'll be the starter. next year mccown and henne will duke it out.
Armando - sorry but if you don't write down what McCown has answerd, why have you posted this one - I mean this is B... Sh... - I've never read an article like this
I still think Beck will keep the starting role. McCown, barring some light switch going on in his head, is just not that good. meh, I'm so unexcited about the QB position on this team.
I'm on the fence with this one.But one thing is for sure whoever the starting QB is they'll have to bring a great deal to the table because at this point the best WR on the roster is Ernest Wilford, so unless the "Ginn Family" makes a huge step its going to be tuff for both McCown and Beck.
Hey Armando has there been any new info on the FB Regan?
We need to find out about Beck, but are only starting to do that.
Unless Beck gives us a clear reason not to -- after that we are going to have to find out about Henne.
And the only way to find out about a quarterback is to put him in the game.
McCown's a known commodity -- good back up/borderline starter. no reason to prove that any more unless Beck busts and Henne's not ready.
The Raiders didn't want him is not a reason. The Raiders just didn't like him. He wasn't controversial enough.
He isn't going to be great. We just need good and steady. Handoff, run left, handoff run right, little toss into the middle. Next set a 10 yard screen left. A run up the middle and another little run. Too easy. He has the experience and tools to run a simple offence.
I agree with you Armando.
Kevin in Halifax
Who's older Beck or McNown???
My question is can McNown take a shot gun snap without fumbling it. That will be the biggest hurdle getting past Beck.
Alright, let's see here. McCown and Beck are the same age and Beck has 39 less starts. Henne never won a meaningful game as a QB of "that team up north". How can he not be the favorite going into camp???? Doesn't matter though. They don't have any elite receivers to throw to. And spare me how great Ginn was at the end of last year. He needed 5 more catches a game to become "serviceable".
Turd Ferguson
Clearly all the animosity you put out there is starting to get back to you.
Hopefully it gets to your employers sooner or later as well.
McCown
W 27 L 69
35 TD 40 INT
Ramsterone
Armondo as usual you do something stupid like predicting who the QB will be after no practice or anything, after your 10-6 prediction last year you should never try to guess something related to the dolphins...
ANdyP
McCown hasn't had a real chance anywhere. He's always been the backup...behind a veteran or a new rookie "sensation" like J. Russell. I think the guy has potential. I hope Parcells and Sparano give him a real shot. I have no doubt he'll be the best QB we've had since Marino. (which says oh-so-little.)
andyp get over your self dude. It's a blog, it's a discussion. He is not REPORTING Josh McCown will be the starter.
Don't you sit around with friends, having beers, talking about who will start or what record you think the team will have?
Geez get an effing life.
...39 fumbles in 44 games.
Some comments on here:
McCown is not a Parcells guy ... Um, actually McCown was signed by Parcells.
Beck is a Parcells guy ... Actually he's a Cam Cameron guy.
McCown hasn't proven anything ... What the hell has Beck proven?
Beck could be in there growing while McCown wouldn't be growing ... One is 26 years old (Beck) and one is 28 (McCown) so what's the friggan' difference?
Anyway, good debate, but stupid answers.
I agree with Armando. McCown has more experience and so Parcells will go wtih him.
Good post, Armando. Looking forward to the column. Unlike MartinK I've already registered.
Jose Sacco
I'd much rather watch a young kid grown, then a NFL 'vet' struggle through his 7th season. Beck gets my vote!
ps. In the East division, McCown will get eaten alive! Int's ahoy!
So the choice is Josh McCown, John Beck or Chad Henne.
That means we suck again.
the people saying that they would rather play beck because they want a young kid to grow are stupid. beck isn't very young. he's only a year or two younger than mccown.
People who relate a players growth and knowledge of the game to their age are imbeciles.
McCown is the only QB with any experience. He wasn't bad in Arizona and really didn't get a fair shake in Detroit or Oakland.
He's definitely got the talent to lead the Dolphins and with the right coaches I believe the guy can shine and be successful. Henne isn't ready and won't be this year and Beck isn't isn't ready either for that matter.
I would agree with the last post that is true for every position, but not for the quarterback.
Experience is a huge deal for a quarterback. HUGE.
And dont' give me the Dan Marino example. He was the exception, not the rule. And he was much better his second year than in his first.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems most 'late-bloomers' are guys who have been backups then either get a break, or earn their way into the starting lineup. McCown as played as a starter on different teams and still hasn't proven his mettle. I'm not saying it's impossible, after all, there's still hope that Joey Harrington could be a late bloomer as well,.... isn't there?
Beck will be the starter, but he'll have to prove himself quickly.
Bob G.
McCown is Jay Fiedler, that's why.
Beck is Bob Griese reincarnated, well, that TYPE anyway.
The new guy is a big dummy.
;)
The new guy is a big dummy? We know that already? Chad Henne sucks already?
Did you come to that assessment based on three rookie minicamp practices in shorts and shirts?
tom you're a retard.
I think it's fair to say McCown will start the season opener. When you look at his carrer stats though, they're pretty consistent and that's not a good thing. He'll probably thrown one or two more interceptions than touchdowns and that's why i think Beck will be given a fair shot to be the starting quarterback early on. The "plan" though; i think, is for Chad Henne to be taking snaps by seasons end.
Whatever chance McCown had it's gone now. Mando picked him? He'll be lucky to be the 3rd QB!
Listed in order will be the depth chart for the QB position
1. John Beck
He is the best QB out of the three
2. Josh McCown
only because he is a veteren
3. Chad Henne
I know it is only training camp but from what I'm hearing the kid has A LOT of work ahead of him to catch up to starter status.
Parcells is making the QB situation much like the cowboys. he has a young talented starter with bledsoe being the veteran behind Romo.
What you all fail to realize is that Bill Parcells is NOT the head coach of the Miami Dolphins. Tony Sparano is. If Sparano thinks that Beck is the way to go, Beck will be the starter. Parcells is there to mentor and help rebuild from a personel perspective. Sparano is making the game-time decisions. But if Parcells suggests something you better believe that Sparano is probably gonna listen.
Also Mccown was brought in as a back up. Everyone knows that he isnt going to take a team to the top (see Cardinals, Raiders, etc.). He is there to provide insurance behind which ever young gun Sparano lets start. Im leaning twords Beck b/c he's had time with the Dolphins players
As to the QB issue, I actually have watched McCown play multiple times and he can look really, really good. He is a QB that can win you a game (and lose you one just as easily). The Dolphins have not had that since Marino. I think letting McCown start could be a good solution while having the winner of the Beck/Henne competition also get some reps. I think the Dolphins should model thier rebuilding after the Titans a few years ago when they had Kerry Collins as the starter and Vince Young played a few series a game. Yes it is very high school like, but it gave VY some great experience without expectations.
On another note, Armando I appreciate the info you give us on these blogs. I would say to everyone who kills you, why do they even come to the site? It is not like the paper when it is staring you in the face. If you think Armando is a schmuck then why read his work? I think he is more informed than 99% of the world on the Dolphins so his opinion has some value.
Hey FLDP you are right this is just a blogg but if am going to predict something like he is doing I would not be so pesimist and I would say that Beck has the upper hand based on his work ethic and potential...Mcclown is not very good go back and look at his record and play last few years. Also look at the first game for Beck at Filly...he was put in a situation where he was garanted to be joke...Mularky calling the play's, Camoron being a coach and vet's not wanting you there because you have not practice with the team all seasong long...well just what I think
In my opinion Beck gets the start. The new coaching staff and stlye of coaching should help Beck get better. Although it was just the pre season Beck did show potential last season and if I'm not mistaken led a couple come from behind pre season victories but like I said that was the pre season.
Cameron was an idiot thinking he could be the offensive coordinator & head coach at the same time. With more coaching staff added this season Beck should be primed and ready to go.
Josh is here to replace Beck only if he fails. Parcells will start with the fresh and look for the vets when they need to.
We had way too many QB changes since the Days of the Dan "Da Man" Marino retired and it's time we stay a little more consistant with our QB's.
Go Dolphins!!!!!!!!
John beck will be the starting qb opening day.McCown will be the back up as chad henne sits on the bench and learns to be an nfl qb. the dolphins are rebuilding so it makes no sense to play a lifetime back up qb.beck will take his lumps but this year he will have weapons and the best fin offensive line in years. Let the competition begin.
conversation between Tony Sparano and Bill Parcells:
Tony: I want to start John Beck.
Bill: Why?
Tony: He's got a bigger upside ...
Bill: uh huh.
Tony: He's got a better release ..
Tony: We need to find out what the guy is made of.
Bill: Go on
Tony: And this guy McCown is a career backup and nothing more.
Bill: Tell you what, start Josh McCown.
Tony: OK.
I think McCown is the care-taker QB while they figure out if Beck/Henne is the future.
I also believe Beck is going to be on a short leash since he is not a Trifecta guy. He needs to show something because then the focus will quickly be in developing Henne.
oscar_g
Rebuilding is the word -- we ain't gonna win the superbowl and losing in the first round of the playoffs would be like hitting lotto.
That makes a huge difference on this.
FIguring out what we got for the future should be the first priority. That means Beck unless he either implodes or Josh goes into hyperdrive during preseason.
It will be Beck. We didn't want Culpepper and the Raiders did. The Raiders like Culpepper better than thatn McCown. Lets think about this.....
I have 3 reasons why Beck will be starting QB.
1. No one will work harder than John Beck. Period.
2. McCown must really suck if the Lions, Raiders, and Cardinals didn't want him. And a 69 1/2 passer rating won't help him either.
3. Chad Henne couldn't beat Ohio State or a Div. 2 school. Oh well, he'll have no trouble against the Pats.
Guys can we stop already with the "Ted Ginns family" crap? First of all it stopped being funny two weeks after that draft and second, There is no reason to make fun of Ted G. because of something his former coach said. Cam is gone so let it go. TG got better as the year went on and I for one am excited to see what he can do with some real special teams guys in front of him. He also has worked really hard on his route running and conditioning this offseason. Lets try and show the kid a little respect. NYScott
josh mccown started over culpepper. culpepper only played when mccown was hurt so what are you talking about?
yeah and guess what? john beck was 1-7 versus ranked teams. yuck
Hmmm...a three team flunkie with a passer rating that hasn't topped 75 in a six year career...doesn't sound to me like the kind of player the Dolphins would look to build their future around.
Armando, I shall pop a bowl of popcorn and eagerly await your column. You're gonna need a pretty thick rug if you're going to conjure up even a prayer of an argument for McCown. This should be good.
well its either mccown or a midget who played for a little girl's team out in the middle of nowhere.
Okay it's my opinion that Henne will give the guys a good competition but in the end his inexperience in the NFL will keep him holding the clipboard this season. Now if McCown is going to win the starting job he had better be working his butt off because from what we have been told Beck is a machine. He is constantly studying,working out and is the last one to leave every night. That's according to reports from before the draft. Parcells likes toughness so it's a draw there. McCown is known for playing hurt but so is Beck. He had a laundry list full of injuries that he played through in his senior year. But McCown has experience reading NFL defenses. Someone asked why he hasn't performed well in his six or seven years but I think there's an obvious answer to that one. He played on three of the worst franchises in the league. Yes our Phins are bad now but they have a history of success (unlike Detroit,and Arizona) and are turning things around. Oakland was a MESS when he went there and only released him because they have Russell penciled in for A LOT of money and can't afford to pay a backup 3 million a year. It's too early to tell who will come out on top but I have a gut feeling it will be McCown because of his confidence. The guy has all the confidence in the world and that shows me that he has a short memory and is able to leave the past in the past. His confidence will win his teammates over and his ability to forget mistakes and adapt to different situations will win him the job. NYScott
Beck will be the starter. Because I AM smarter than you.
A. Einstein
I think it's pretty funny that the people who are saying McCown sucks are using the argument that the Lions, Cards, and Raiders didn't want him so he must be bad. Is it just me that realizes that those three teams have been the worst teams in the league for the better part of a decade? "The Lions and Cards didn't want him so". So what? What does that prove? If they knew anything about talent (at the time they were letting him go) than they would have been competing for a superbowl birth by now, no? NYScott
I have to agree with Ceed on this. I don't think he's the type of quarterback Parcells wants. Yeah Parcells signed him everybody knows that. The fact is McCown is there for competition and to be a servicable backup. If he wins the starting job, fine. He is not the future of the franchise. McCown had also looked decent as a reciever in Detroit. Maybe Parcells brought him in for that?
it will be chad henne because he gives us the best chance to win even as a rookie! bryan in ohio p.s jayson foster will return punts and kicks in 2008 for the miami dolphins while davone bess becomes our next wes welker!
I still thnk Beck can be a very good NFL QB. But I think McCown's experience will give him the edge the coaches are looking for. Then, once he starts falling back to his old habits, Beck will take over. And if he fails, Henne's the man. But McCown will start the season as the Fins QB.
I agree that McCown will be the starter on opening day but I dont think that he is seen as anymore than a transitional starter. Whichever of Beck or Henne that impresses the most in training camp and preseason will be groomed agressively to take over by midseason.
On another topic, kudos to Armando for acknowledging the help he got from the Dolphins. WE rip YOU when you are unnecessarily negative, so my hat is off to you for being big enough to find a positive spin to talk about.
35 TD's to 40 INT's. The idea of Josh McCown being the starting quarterback of the Miami Dolphins is a scary proposition. The guy played with Boldin, Fitzgerald, and Bryant Johnson in Arizona. If he couldn't pull out some more wins with those three receivers at his disposal, then it shows me that the dude can't play as a consistent starter.
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I just wanted to point out that you have made a logical assessment; that McCown will have the easiest time sliding into the starting spot. The question is, how long will he keep it?
Also, I wanted to just say that I have been reading your web blogs for some time now. Only recently have I started to respond, sometimes in disagreement with your thinking. But I have respect for what you do and appreciate - as a fan - the information you try to provide to us.
I suppose you could say (certain) others who write responses are devoid of any kind of critical thinking are just blowing off steam after a terrible year for fans. But I truly wish people would lighten up on you. It's just a game...entertainment...you at least I appreciate your perspective and opinions, even if I don't always agree with them.
Thanks.
Farve will be in a Dolphins uniform...the man can't retire.
Interesting article on McCown, Armando. However, I still maintain the stance that McCown is a career backup at this point. He's a nice guy and all, but he's pretty much another Jay Fiedler. He's got a stronger arm than Jay, but makes the same kind of bone-headed desicions that Jay did.
miami's quaterback problem has been that each quarterback since dan couldn't hit that deep pass when the opposing def. hiccuped,or got a step behind.
pass after pass fell to the ground.
and when that pass hit the ground,they where behind in the count,and most often didn't make the 3rd down.
marino made def. pay for hiccups,that's what the next qb needs to do.any qb can shoot those short passes, and hand off the ball. it's the qb's that make you pay for mistakes.which qb can take advantage of other teams mistakes, that's the qb that will be miami's qb of the future.
josh mccown being the qb with the most stats,has his stats proven that he can do that, I don't think so.
Let me start with this...Josh is a great addition. With that being said, Beck is the starter! He is to smart to let this chance slip away. I really believe Beck will make a huge leap this season. Cam and crew really believed in him last year, they too knew he should have never played last season.
Mando,
The fins want no part of the media, so since Josh McCown spoke to you, all of a sudden McCown will be the starer in your opinion hahahaha. As soon as Hess interview's with you, he will start as a number one receiver. As soon as parmelee interviews with you he will be the stating running back, this up and coming year.
Interview ME and maybe you would think, ill be the starting kicker
I guess I will actually answer your question...
Can McCown be Derrick Anderson? He really has not shown anything in his other starts to believe so, and he has been on some really bad teams along the way. We are still not a good team either. HE throws way too many INTs, and that is something that cannot be "coached" away. If your name is Favre, you can get away with that, but probably not on a Parcells type team.
Beck has looked good, and Henne was passed over by Miami at 32, so they had already decided they were not going that route, until he fell to them at 57 (they had no way of knowing he would make it to 57,so a starting QB for 2008 in the draft QB was not in their plans).
So this leaves us with Beck vs. McCown. In my mind, whichever QB throws the least amount of INTs in the preseason will be the guy. The signs point to Beck, with McCown being the "don strock" of the situation. THe only way this goes McCown is if the brain trust here wants a battle tested guy while they groom Beck and Henne for a QB competition in 2009.
I think people writing off McCown already are morons.....he's played for the three worst teams in recent memory and yes, he is coming to the 4th worst team in recent memory, but I think we are turning this thing around and either he or Beck are going to show some good things this year. Henne will be 3rd and probably not make it as a starter, at least for us.
Once Beck has his confidence back, and takes CONTROL of the offense, he will be the starter! I just hope it makes these strides in the off-season. During pre-season, I want to see him controlling (his) offensive line. This will be the 'tale/tale' sign as to whether or not he is ready to be a NFL QB. I am not 100% sure that Beck is the answer, I hope he is, but I am almost positive that McCown is NOT!!!
"Please have a better reason than, 'Because I'm smarter than you, Armando.'Because you're not."
Oh my god, that is so pathetic. What are you, 12?
And btw it's not hard to figure out who will be the starter. Why wouldn't McCown, he's the veteran? The real question is, who's going to finish the season? Duh...
Beck will be the starter to be honest i dont think mando knows anything when it comes to football. One if the boy cant win games he cant be our guy. So mccown cant be our guy the dude sucks like really bad. Beck has been working with the qb coach all offseason so i think he should be well on is way to start remember the arm strenght the kid had i saw him as a good qb the only thing was the team gave up on him last season. The o line didnt block. he didnt have ronnie or ricky to run the ball. and how many passes should of been caught but werent because the reciever batted the ball and the other team gt an interception. come on i saw every game last season and im telling you that beck is the guy. He got hit and got right bacvk up time after time. He is tough minded and has what it takes. with his o line ready and to 2 really good running backs the kids has got it maid remember what tom brady looked like in the super with all the pressure in his face kinda like beck. so maybe if you give beck time in the pocket he could look something like tom brady i know thats a reach but you never know
We wouldn't even be having this conversation if dumbass Cam would have drafted Brady Quinn last year. We would still have Chris Chambers (because we wouldn't have drafted Ginn). We could have concentrated on another wide receiver and defense in this years draft. Probably still would have gotten Jake Long too. I blame Cameron for this whole mess. The man is a complete idiot and in one shitty year screwed up this team for a long, long time....
none of these guys will be throwinglong balls, so who ever hands off the best and throws the best10 to 20 yard ball will be the starter. if you look at the system its usually based on run first pass second. he who makes the least amount of mistakes in the preseason with the most upside will start.im not sure if it matterswho that is out of this crop. but go fish, lets play some ball. finfan4life.
Henne when he has some expeience is going to be very special. Still, who is going to catch the ball? Why the Dolphins did not grab the available Manningham is utterly beyond me.Does anyone remember that Marino had Duper and Clayton? The great QB,s need good if not great receivers. Till the the Do;phins get a few, Unitas incarnated would be hlpless.
McCown will never start until he clears up the controversy about his relationship with a Playboy bunny!
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I don't think McCown is our guy. Why are we going to put a veteran in if we are getting younger and rebuilding? McCown has shown he will not be a great caliber QB. We need a QB that has potential of being a consistant starter for us. I believe Beck can do it. I also believe last year was unfair. Why? Because his first game he started was against the Eagles(away). Then I believe against the Steelers. Give him more games to grow, then if it doesn't work give the job to Henne. McCown to me is for insurance if one gets hurt.
Hey Armando?
Did the deal go through with Rick Ortiz yet or is he still trying out for the team! He was a beast for the Miami Knights!
I heard he was at the Davie Facility working out with the team!
Josh is a safety net in case Beck or Henne don't immediately step up. There - the smartest thing in this entire blog. Read it and weep.
It's conceivable that McCown could start, depending on who impresses during camp. But I think Beck will surprise the doubters and get the job.
cocoajoe
you guys need to shutup about Henne not being able to win against "important" teams while he was in college. If that really mattered anyway, Michigan's defense against the spread was at fault, not Henne. Henne made some great throws when the defense knew he was going deep to Manningham or Arrington. Yes, they were both NFL WRs (late rounds). They were a vertical passing team for the most part and that is why Henne had a low completion % (under 60). He probably wont start any games this year, but will be a solid backup until Beck proves he's either worth keeping or a bust. The Dolphins have spent wayyy too many 2nd round picks on QBs (Feeley, Beck, Henne) and at some point they will cash in.
I love the dude who doesn't understand the difference between a blog entry and an actual newspaper article. That's hilarious.
McCown starts. When Parcells was at ESPN he commented that Romeo Crenell handled the Cleveland QB situation correctly last year. That you start with your most experienced guy and move down the board. Charlie Frye, then Derek Anderson, then Brady Quinn. No rush to put Brady in.
McCown starts....it's a new offensive system for all 3 QB's....the one with the most NFL experience will initially be able to handle it the best. By the end of the season, the backup (Beck or Henne) that adjusted to the new system will finish the year as the starter. McCown in a stop-gap solution..not long term. But it is obvious that Tuna is bringing him in for one reason, experience. And for all the booger-eating mouth-breathers with a 3rd grade education...'a lot' is two words.
The Dolphins wont win much this year and their Off. is very young with GREAT potential, 5 1st rounders, 5 2nd rounders and a young receiver, the question mark is guard. They want to have an offense grow together for the coming years not next year.
I believe it will be a true QB competition this preseason. and in the end the best player will start.
I agree with Mando that McCown has the edge from an experience standpoint, and that may not be a bad thing for Beck, gives him more time to be coached & develop properly.
The job is Beck's to lose given his incumbant status with the Dolphins.
We shall see... but one thing I know .. I trust this staff more than the last three to make the right decisions regarding our QB situation.
I like all the moves they've made so far.
I think McCown starts based on experience, while they bring Beck and Henne along for the future.
McCown may lose his starting role midway through the season. We certainly will not see him starting next season.
If McCown starts in game one, I can bet the few dollars I possess, that will be his only start for the Dolfins.
Hail McClown!!
Why the John Beck bashing? He was a rookie on a bad team, with questionable coaching. These bloggers are probably the same ones, or have the same mind set as the ones that bashed Troy Aikman's rookie year.
McCown was a finalist for the prestigeous Walter Payton award, after transfering from SMU to Sam Houston State, wher he threw something like 32 tds.
He performed well at the NFL combine, and score high on the IQ test-HE's SMART
He led the Cardinals with two tds in the closing minutes to knock the Vikings out of the playoffs. He also directed a come from behind victory in the Mexico City game, played before the largest crowd ever to attend a regular season game and before a national tv audience.- He CAN Perform Under Pressure.
He had two of the five most productive passing yard totals during the 2005 season. His 47 yard td pass to Anquan Boldin vs. Dallas covered 60 plus yards.- He Has Arm Strength
His "win percentage" as a starter, is better than the teams he played for.-He Can Elevate a Teams Play.
He directed a 99 yard drive last year vs. the Colts, eating up over 12 minutes, to keep Peyton Manning "off the field", in a competitive game against a quality team.
View his videos vs. the Colts and Broncos last year at Raiders.com. The hits he took would have knocked a lesser player out of the game. He played with a compound fractured finger/hand, a broken toe, and an ankle sprain. He Is Tough!
The Raiders did want to sign him again. Parcells and the Dolphins signed him on Friday-the first available day to sign free agents-they must see something in him.
Josh McCown is going to win over alot of Dolphin fans, on and off the field. More importantly- he is a quality family guy with 3 or 4 kids. Femfinfan
Josh will surprise some of you doubters. This is the first time in his career that he will be with a quality organization.
I think we're all speculating at this point. I hope Beck is the answer and he's given the chance to win the job. This is what it will take, for one of them to win the job.
That said, I think our WR position is very weak at this point so it may come down to leadership abilities since we will be a running team.
there wont be a qb problem because in parcells system the qb isnt the franchise,hes just an inportant part of the system.alls he needs to do is minimize mistakes, hand off wellan throw a descent ball. I dont see this being a problem for any of these qbs, i think the starter will be the one with the most confidence and leadership.go josh.finfan4life
McCowan is a career backup, good to keep around for any disasters.
If Parcells had any confidence in Beck, why would he draft Henne. I believe Henne is the future of the dolphins.
Go Fins!!!!!!!!!!!
Bring in Luke McCown !
Nobody was paying attention to Tom Brady...........
So why not McCown ? It´s up to him now.
***The reason McCown will start the season is that because he is the most experienced and has had the most 'success' he gives our beloved 'Phins the best foot forward out of the gates. For all we know the phins go from 1-15 to playoff contention and you can't throw games away at the beginning of the season.
Now McCown will likely look unimprssive and if he continues with a 69 passer rating the only way he stays is if we run a string of wins together which isn't going to happen.. as long as the 1st loss happens in the first three games .. Beck will be next ..
how can u say beck sucks he had no line last year he got hit as soon as he got the ball or was so afraid of getting hit in 2 seconds he fumbled the snap trying to get back so quick! oh and he had the 5th string running back no ronnie or ricky. he had no chambers or marty booker. yes he had ginn and heagan but once again with no line to protect and no ronnie brown so the recivers could get open or to give them time to get open due to the line give the man a fair chance and i bet he is one of the top 5 QB in the league once the dolphins get rolling in 2 years! rob psl florida
Some have said that Chad Henne will be the next Tom Brady. The earlier we get him on the field the better. It's not like we are going to win more than 6 games this year no matter what we do. Might as well get the rook out there.
John Beck is the miami dolphins future and this is why:
1.Last year he had the worst O-line in the league
2.He is very smart, quick, and accurate
3.He is young and still has time to learn
4.Josh McCown has been in the leaugge six years and hasn't gotten better
5.Josh McCown can throw far, be is very unaccuarte
6.Lets not even talk about chad henne being the next tom brady, because he was not even good in college. HE LOST TO APPAlATION STATE what is that all about, the only reason they say he is good is because Mike Hart made him look good
John Beck is the dolphins man, and McCown will be a solid back up, as for henne he may explode....but not with the dolphins, I say they should have kept cleo lemon and ditch McCown and Henne
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