Culpepper and Dolphins at odds
Daunte Culpepper left the practice field earlier today while the rest of the team, including new QB Trent Green, continued its work.
"They wouldn't let me work so I left the field," Culpepper said minutes ago. "I was told I couldn't work."
The Dolphins informed Culpepper he would not be allowed to practice in team drills. They also made it clear to him -- during an announcement in front of the whole team, in fact -- that he would not be with the team this season.
Culpepper has come to terms with this.
"I'm going to handle myself in a first-class manner and do my work to continue getting better physically," Culpepper said.
But ....
The Dolphins are intent on trading Culpepper so they can get something for their one-year investment in the quarterback. Culpepper is intent on being released so he can pick which team he will go to.
"I definitely expect to be released. I will not be traded," Culpepper said. "I will not agree to any trade. If I'm traded, my contact has to be restructured. And I'm not going to restructure."
The way Culpepper can stand in the way of a trade is by refusing to restructure his contract. That refusal makes a trade practically impossible because no team is likely to take on Culpepper's current contract and that's exactly what has to happen unless Culpepper agrees to restructure.
"That isn't going to happen," Culpepper said. "All I can say is any team interested in my services, sit tight, because I'm not going to agree to a trade."
And he's right. Nobody will pay him $5.5 million this year when he's unlikely to be the starter -- unless, of course, Al Davis is having a geriatric moment and makes that move.
So it will be interesting to see who blinks first -- the Dolphins by releasing Culpepper or the player by agreeing to a restructure with whatever team might be interested in him.
Your thoughts?
"They wouldn't let me work so I left the field," Culpepper said minutes ago. "I was told I couldn't work."
The Dolphins informed Culpepper he would not be allowed to practice in team drills. They also made it clear to him -- during an announcement in front of the whole team, in fact -- that he would not be with the team this season.
Culpepper has come to terms with this.
"I'm going to handle myself in a first-class manner and do my work to continue getting better physically," Culpepper said.
But ....
The Dolphins are intent on trading Culpepper so they can get something for their one-year investment in the quarterback. Culpepper is intent on being released so he can pick which team he will go to.
"I definitely expect to be released. I will not be traded," Culpepper said. "I will not agree to any trade. If I'm traded, my contact has to be restructured. And I'm not going to restructure."
The way Culpepper can stand in the way of a trade is by refusing to restructure his contract. That refusal makes a trade practically impossible because no team is likely to take on Culpepper's current contract and that's exactly what has to happen unless Culpepper agrees to restructure.
"That isn't going to happen," Culpepper said. "All I can say is any team interested in my services, sit tight, because I'm not going to agree to a trade."
And he's right. Nobody will pay him $5.5 million this year when he's unlikely to be the starter -- unless, of course, Al Davis is having a geriatric moment and makes that move.
So it will be interesting to see who blinks first -- the Dolphins by releasing Culpepper or the player by agreeing to a restructure with whatever team might be interested in him.
Your thoughts?
posted by Armando Salguero at 1:58 PM
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Good for Daunte! He's been lied to from the beginning by Cam and Randy. This organization continues to make it harder for me to be a fan by the way it is handling things. What happened to this once proud organization? THIS IS A DISASTER!!! I just want to fast forward to about 2 years from now, when Wayne gives the boot to both Cam and Randy. Or maybe Wayne needs to sell the team. All I know is they have wasted the careers of Marino, Zach, JT, etc., because of poor decision making.
It's getting ugly, as predicted.
I sure hope Cameron and Mueller know what they're doing. It's a big risk going with a 37 year old with a concussion history behind a line that will feature 5 mew positional starters...especially at LT where Carey hasn't proven he can get the job done.
While the ugliness from Daunte's departure will pass, his ghost will haunt the Dolphins if Green gets hurt and Lemon turns into...well, a lemon.
eeech!
I feel Cameron and Meuller, while making the right business choice in their dealings with Daunte (i.e. not allowing to practice), are quickly ostracizing the fan base and possibly the players. I would like to remind them that while the fans don't play the game, we are certainly the ones responsible for their livelyhood. It seems to me that this organization is starting to take on the persona of the owners main business, trash.
Right on, Daunte! Give'em hell.
I have been a life-long Dolphins fan, but the new crew in town led by Family Man Cam is lame and I, too, prefer to fast forward to Cam's downfall. Boot him and Green back to Indiana, Wayne.
The Cam Randy is low-class.
Sentimental Cam is putting down a good man and QB (Daunte) because he wants his good buddy Trent to kiss his behind again.
Cam needs to act like a Head Coach, and put the business of winning football over his sweetheart nostaliga for Trent.
Truly disgusting it is and Cam deserves to be booed outa here.
I don't understand the reasoning behing not letting him at least compete? What did trent green win in KC to have the starting job handed to him.
I can't wait to here the Boos in the crowd when TG gets booted out of the game with another concussion. I'm tried of giving people starting positions because cameron like their dad or their wife is a real nice person. WTF
I normally do not blog but I have to agree that things are getting ugly....what happend to starting the best player? While I understand Daunte is still recovering, let him compete for the spot...You should never just simply give a starting position to a player with past ties, whether it be QB, safety, RB, etc. It sets a bad precedent, and will soften the players.
I am beginning to think I want off this rollercoster.....
Hey wait a minute, anonymous. Supposedly you guys on here are Dolphins fans. Why would you say something like, "I can't wait to hear the boos," when that means stuff would be going bad for your team?
What kind of fans are you guys?
It takes some balls to do what the Fins are doing right now.
The stance the Fins are taking on this seems like something the Patriots organization would normally do.
They are telling Culpepper, "to hell with you", and basically sending a signal to the rest of the team that, "if you dont like it you can go with him".
Wow!!!!
I don't know if I should clap my hands right now, or cover my head with a blanket.
These guys have balls!!!!!
Lol Armando,
Maybe some of these so called fans are hoping that we end up with the worst record in the league so that we can get the first pick in the '08 draft.
Either that or they aren't really fans!?!
I've been a Dolphin all my life and for the first time ever I'm feeling extremely disappointed by the way things are going. Daunte disappointed me last year, but, after realizing that he should not have played until he was 100 percent, I was able to forgive him and appreciate the man. He gave his all and all. Who among us would have taken such risk behind a pathetic offensive line. My point is this, He wanted to be a Dolphin, probably from the time he began to play the game. He wanted it so bad, he put himself at risk. He deserved the chance to compete. If I'm not mistakened Cam says he encourage good competition (I'm starting to smell a sabanisk order in the air with BS words to pacify us). I don't know if he would have won the job, but give the guy a chance. Cam sucked as Head Coach at Indiana and because he was given a chance (in spite of) look at were he is. I've never, ever not want to be a Dolphin fan until now. Said thing is they probably do give a d---. Wayne, sell the team, you have no ideal what you're doing, none. Apparently owning a football is somewhat different than the other business you own because you have failed since you've owned the Dolphins. Get out now before you complete embarass (I know, mispelled, but at least I know it) yourself.
Wow.
Do you guys just search for something to bitch about, or is it that we have a whole new batch of fans out here that are complaining about a topic that affects their line of thinking?
Before it was "MURDER CULPEPPER AND GET HIM OUT OF TOWN" and now it's "I CANT BELIEVE THEY ARE DOING THIS TO THIS MAN WHO HAS GIVEN HIS HEART TO THE TEAM"...
I say: Make Up Your Mind!
Cameron is throwing his weight around and if you didn't want a liability in your organization you would do the same thing. We drafted Beck for a reason. We traded for Green for a reason.
If you don't like what's going on here, then become an Alabama or Pitt fan, where our other head coaches ended up.
Give this regime a chance to prove our success ON THE FIELD vs. cute off-season moves that warm your heart but do nothing else to help us succeed (see: Junior Seau, Daunte Culpepper, AJ Feeley).
Bryan, the point is give the guy a chance to compete. He may not win the job. If he doesn't clean his out locker.
Man, I'm stuggling. Need to get somE sleep. I meant, "CLEAN OUT HIS LOCKER"
What a bum.
Look pal, you have not been able to compete at even a College level in nearly 3 years, what value do you have at all?
Why is this a surprise?
And now he blames the Dolphins for rushing him back? Is he nuts?
He said day after day after day he will be ready, he is committed, he will do whatever he can to be ready.
It is a known fact that he continued to do FOOTBALL related drills and not KNEE SURGERY REHAB drills. He pushed himself WAY more than the Dolphins organization.
He is a bum, will NEVER be a servicable player again, I am glad his fumbling, little handed worthless a** is gone.
What you people are seeing for the first time, in a long, long, time is a franchise that is FINALLY grabbing its "cojones" and making a "COMMAND" decision!!!!
We got burned by long line of crappy coaches before. Now the administration went out and FINALLY got a coach that at the VERY LEAST, WANTS to BE A HEAD COACH!!!
This new H/C is only molding this team in HIS vision of what HIS team should be.
I've got to give this coach his props because, he is doing it his way!!!
Now sink or swim HE will ULTIMATELY answer to the fan base, owners and team if HIS DECISIONS are proven WRONG!!!
Let's wait and see how this plays out!!! In the meantime, I respect this man's decisions and choices and see how this works out.
Keep on going CAM!!!
It is apparent he can block a trade by not restructuring his contract so why not just release him now and end the hostility. Get on with the future already. I am willing to give Cameron and Mueller the benefit if the doubt right now... but those guys better be right about all these choices they are making, otherwise we will be starting over yet again in a year or two!
Armando,
I am a fan to the deepest core of my being. But do you honestly think this organization has done anything to endear themselves to the patient fans of the team over the past 10 years? They have become the laughing stock of the league. Now, you might say that Oakland or Detroit are in worse shape, but Miami is right there with them. This is supposed to be a proud franchise. How did it get to this point? Now, I don't agree with booing anybody in aqua and orange, regardless of who it is and what the circumstances are. But, I do believe a message needs to be sent to ownership that, as fans, we're embarrassed at how this team is being handled. If that means wearing paper bags during a game, or better yet, not buying tickets, than maybe that's what needs to happen. It doesn't mean we're not fans. It just means we're upset with the state of our team. The decisions made by Cam/Ran can not truly be judged until we see results of those decisions on the field. But, the way the team and those decisions are being handled is horrendous. The apparent display at today's mini-camp was out of control, and that falls on Cam's shoulders. His entire handling of the Daunte saga was horrible. He Sabaned (that means lied)to everyone about evaluating talent. My guess is, even if the Trent deal fell through, he would have gotten rid of Daunte anyways. He should have at least been straight up with Daunte from day one. At the end of the day, winning will erase all bad feelings, but it looks like it is going to be a painful journey for fans for the foreseeable future.
I understand that football is a business in which there are no sweethearts, unless of course they're of the nature of a previously established relationship, as Cam has demonstrated since his arrival. However, that loyalty does not apply to Daunte, for what ever reason. We all know what happened last year, which was not his fault, but more importantly, we know his potential as demonstrated in Minnesota when he had receivers. But all of that is a side issue, whether you like Daunte or not, fair is fair and he's being and has been treated unfairly. No one can deny that. I've been ambivalent about whether I like Cam, now my mind's made up, I don't. Even if he wins us a Superbowl, I still will not like him and will forever disagree with the handling of this matter.
Please don't put Junior Seau in the same sentence as Culpepper and Feely... Saban was an idiot for letting him go as Seau was and is a great player with tremedous ethics which Culpepper is sadly lacking. His statements that the Fins "rushed" him into playing is a load of bulldust.. Bye Daunte... You lost me when you started telling your stories.
I'm not going to Cam bash, but I do think this is ridiculous!! If they don't won't any part of Daunte then just release the man!!! No they gotta get something in return so he most be worth something in their eyes!!! I don't like this new regime but as it has been said before I'm gonna play the wait and see role!!! I HOPE the Dolphins do well but with all this drama going on I can tell you the players are going to be distracted from what really matters.............WINNING!!!!!!
Here we go again first the trent green saga and now again will dante be traded or released go ahead and release the man if you dont want him here anymore. Coac cam should have let him stay and compete at a restructured price. At this point both can be backups and having them both would be a great insurance plan. Think what the colts would be like if Peyton went down and Jim Sorgi started or worse the pats with Matt Cassel something if Brady went down? With this makeshift offensive line having both would have made me more comfortable on Sundays
Duante was struggling in Minnesota before his knee injury. Losing Randy Moss was a big hit for him. Does Miami have a Randy Moss? No. Duante's time to compete was last year but he was still injured. The management has moved on. Duante should catch on somewhere as a backup but I do not believe he will ever get his mobility back and he could never have been the next big thing for the Dolphins. Green is a temporary fix until the youngster is ready.
Either way either Dante or trent is a risk having both of them would create plenty of depth at the most dangerous and costly spot on the field if you lose your starter. I say let them compete at preety even contract short term contracts while you groom Beck. I know we past the Brady Quinn blunder now but this would have been a nice landing from that to have them both under contract with a healthy quarterback competition.
I am a long time, die hard Dolphins fan since the early 70's, and have never posted here, but this is absolutey disgusting and a completely classless way of dealing with Daunte. He should be given the chance to compete. I don't know how much longer I will be a Dolphins fan, as I am fuming over the actions of Cameron and Mueller. I will actually be grinning when the Dolphins go down in defeat next season. Go Pats!
what an asshole. and please shut the hell up about brady quinn everybody he is pure and absolute garbage watch for yourselves for once instead of going along with everybody else. id take john beck over him any day and good bye daunte im estatic hes finally on his way out that was the longest year of my life what a bum he is joey blue skies was a million times better than him and no hes not gonna return to form because there was never any form to begin with randy moss made him look good, at times. he still look pretty bad fumbling whenever he touched the ball. trents not the long term answer im not saying he is but we are supposed to be rebuilding and throwing beck to the wolves just so mel kiper can say they shouldve drafted brady quinn regardless if he even takes a snap or not this year. i cant wait till everybody jumps on the ted ginn bandwagon when he starts to perform well and its inevitable with most of these dolphin fans who cant seem to think for themselves.
I think some of you are missing the point here.
Daunte is not the QB Cam wants for his offense. Even at his prime he would hold onto the ball too long waiting for his primary or secondary receiver to get open. He had success because of his size and athelitism.
For now, John Beck is our future in Cam and Randy's eyes and Trent Green is the best option to not only groom Beck, but to also run the offense the way Cam wants it run. He makes mention of how the best way for younger players to learn is to simply watch how veterans practise and play. And it seems he'd rather Beck learn from Green than Culpepper, and who could blame him for that.
And as for releasing him now to avoid conflict, I say try and get something for him. Hell, we gave up a second round draft choice last year for him, give it a go, if we can't make a trade well then you've lost little by trying.
I don't understand all of you people, do you want to win or not. Everybody gave Saban every benefit of the doubt, but very few have cut Cam and Randy any slack. Why don't you all just go away and be Jets fans until we start winning again and then jump back on the wagon. What part of Culpepper doesn't fit this offense don't you understand. Don't we care more about getting something for a player that we gave up a second round pick for then being nice. I can't wait until Cam starts winning and you all are eating crow.
Wow big surprise we have yet another Patriots fan posing as a Dolphins fan. How long have you been a fan of them now? 6 years? Just like every other Patriot fans. I can't understand why people benefit for jumping on other teams bandwagons. Maybe I just hate phonys which is definitely what you are anonoymous.
Amazing,
Boyyy I hope cam and randy know what they are doing with this team, this smell like disaster. Moving player around to different positions, geting a QB that one hit away from disaster. I am a fins fan, but am losing faith in this team.
Ulises,
Boyyy I hope cam and randy know what they are doing with this team, this smells like disaster. Moving players around to different positions, geting a QB thats one hit away from disaster. I am a fins fan, but am losing faith in this team.
Sam,
Hey R. Brown when are u going to get on a roll. To JT, just keep doing what u do and keep up stayig fine ass hell. U r my favorite player and happy for your defensive player of the year. To the rest of the team please start giving your all out there, We Dolfins fans have not given up yet. We r still behind u guys please, please just at least make the playoffs this year we r not getting any younger guys. To Cam hope that all your decision making will be for the best.
Hey, people, Dante wanted to play last year, it was his idea to begin with. The Dolphins did not rush him, that's why they went out and got Joey Harrington, remember? DC is making these statements to raise his market value. He's his own agent, so he's going to knock anyone he can but himself. Trent Green is not some patsy QB with no value, before last season, TG was a solid to great QB. You can't say that about DC. When is the last season DC was solid to great? Who do you want to mentor your young QB of the future - a guy who can't read defenses or a guy who is a student of the game? This is not even a controversy, it's normal doings in the NFL. Wake up you whiners and realize decisions are made by people other than you for a reason. Let's see what TG, Beck, Ginn and the rest of this lot do for the Dolphins. Until then, go bitch about the Marlins or Heat or some other team. Jeff, fan since '72.
Any dolphins fan who would utter the disgusting phrase "go pats" is in actuality nothing of the sort. Take your self righteous "ooohh they're being so unfair to daunte" bullshit and shove it straight up your pats loving ass.
The Cam Randy is low-class.
more than enough.
they are idiots
I was against ever bringing Culpepper to Miami...he sucks when he doesn't have a young, motivated Randy Moss to throw to. And he will never be 100%. I say good riddance, he will never ever be the quarterback he once was with Randy Moss lining up across from him.
You should all be a shamed of yourselves. You are probably the same fans that don't show up to games when we aren't winning. This team has tried to succeed over the last 10 years but it has not worked out. They have made signings, trades, etc and each year the media and you the fans think they are suppose to win the superbowl. The problem is that there has been no continuity since Shula left. Whether it has been a new offensive system or the wrong players for a system, it has never been given a chance. Cameron is finding his player for his system and this will be the best way to succeed in the long term. The Dolphins are not playing for this year but they are planting a seed with a young defensive backfield and some up and commers in the front 7 and some young lineman as well. Stop bitching and be patient because this team is being built from the ground up. Don't blame Cameron because the last 10 years of JT and Thomas careers were wasted.
Es altamente decepcionante cómo se ha manejado la directiva de Miami en los úlitmos años... Creí que no había una persona con menos clase en el football que Nick Saban, pero me equivoqué... Lo que le hicieron hoy a Daunte es una bajeza... Qué vergüenza siento de ser un Dolfan... Gente como Don Shula, todo clase y honestidad, también debe sentirse muy mal... No defiendo a Culpepper, no ha vuelto a ser el mismo sin Randy Moss y menos aún tras su lesión, pero que esté en Miami no es culpa de él... Creo que está en su derecho de reclamarle seriedad a la organización, porque no fueron honestos con él, ni Cameron ni Mueller ni nadie... Por favor, ya basta de manejar a este club como si fuera uno del soccer de Italia, lleno de mafia y arreglos oscuros... Por eso cada año las decepciones en el campo de juego... Por favor, coach Shula, si alguien le lee este comentario, regresa y ponga orden... Con usted éramos un equipo de respeto dentro y fuera del campo... Además, by the way, a quién diablos se le ocurre poner el destino de este equipo en Trent Green... Si Cameron y Mueller querían a un quarterback viejo, al que ya no le queda nada en el brazo (véase el juego de KC en Indy en los pasados playoffs), sin movilidad y a un golpe del retiro, mejor hubieran sacado a Dan Marino del retiro... Por Dios, ¿qué hemos hecho los Dolfans de corazón para merecer este equipo?
With Cam as coach, the Dolphins deserve to lose.
What you have is a Trent Green who benefited from an offensive line in K.C. that had two hall of famers, and Priest Holmes, Larry Johnson.
You have a Cam who has benefited from being an assistant to Norv Turner, then coaching Ladanian Tomlinson.
Two people riding the coattails of others to achieve their "success."
They are going to come crashin' down in Miami.
Its completely sick to see smilin' Cam with his buddy Trent. Meantime, Daunte has worked harder than everyone else in the organization to regain his health and he is treated like trash.
Dolphin organization can not get any lower than this.
How things are done in W. Huizenga's mind - 1996 the 10 year leases on the skyboxes at Dolphin stadium expire, WH hires Jimmy Johnson to get those boxes sold. Jimmy builds the Fins a little, retires early and then after 3 years he finally quits hands the reigns over to a caretaker not a winning HC. Bad moves are made that set the franchise back. 2006 those ten year leases expire once again, WH has the brillant idea to hire the media darling Spurrier Jr. he absolutely destroys the franchise while plotting his way back to the college game. Sly Sabbie quits on the team, WH hires Cam. Lets see how the season goes, but if he fails and Culpepper gets his stride back, I think its time to BOO the OWNER every chance we get. He is making business decisions not football business decisions. Isn't that just as selfish if not more than those players we love to chide when they decide to holdout or god forbid demand the ball to score touchdowns for the teams we love.
PS Thank You Daunte for risking your health to start for the dolphins "ready or not," thats what warriors do. Good Luck
OK, you guys got me started...
You guys seem to forget that Daunte is also his own agent. He is doing what is in his best interest to improve his OWN value. At this point that is to make it seem the Dolphins were the guilty party for the poor decisions that were made, and not him.
Cam Cameron is being portrayed by some fans as this horrific beast of a person here, but you guys are completely clueless to the situation. Look up what Jeff Fisher did with McNair in Tennessee just last year before you act like this is the next great international travesty.
This is the NFL.
If anything, the Miami fans should be ECSTATIC that this team is being torn down IMMEDIATELY before delaying the inevitable (Nick Saban, anyone?).
Cam Cameron is cleaning house and you guys need to open your eyes to the notion, but until you do just keep your mouth shut. You're making the rest of us look bad.
Cam Cameron comes from a good coaching pedigree (again, look it up) and Randy Mueller knew better about Ricky Williams back when he traded him for two first rounders to Miami in 2002. And you wonder why they (Cam Randy) never spoke his name this offseason.
Where's the praise for seeing that time bomb coming again?
As I said in my earlier post, Culpepper is a liability and his $5.5 MIL torn knee is not worth having out on the practice field, but he is worth having on your roster until you can get some value out of him (see Mare).
The just set the standard. They are being cutthroat just like the Eagles, Patriots, and others who are looking to build a consistently successful franchise. Can you handle that?
Those two bastards (Cam and Randy) are getting their just desserts. They have screwed with Duante ever since Cam arrived in Miami. Since Duante is his own agent, I would sit out the entire year and collect my millions while watching Trent Green and the Miami Dolphins fall flat on their asses!!! Their is a reason why the Chiefs traded Trent Green. He sucks. He has NEVER won anything!!! He was a friggin' backup in St. Louis. He has a Super Bowl ring courtesy of Kurt Warner! Cam and Randy should have given Duante another chance to prove his worth, or at least proved that he sucked and then said "sorry". He worked his ass off to get into shape to compete during mini camps and training camps. By the way, is Cam the head coach or is Randy. I could've sworn that I saw Randy's hand up Cam's ass making his lips move!!! It seems like every decision is Randy's to make. No wonder Satan, uh Saban wanted to shitcan him!!! You guys (Cam and Randy) SUCK!!!!!!
I AM SHOCKED! I am shocked that all of these "fans" are so mad at Cam and Randy for doing what should be done. DID ANYONE read that Daunte said that he went on the field today to test his knee and he knows that he is STILL NOT READY!? It's been almost two years since the injury yet some dolfans wanted Cam not to trade for Green and let Daunte compete with Lemon and Beck. HE IS STILL HURT AND TRYING TO COME BACK from (what is normally) a career ending injury! So that might mean we went into the season with Cleo as our starter. Some of you are so cluless it's frightening.
How are Cam and Randy screwing with Daunte? They have said all along that they cant make any comments about him until he is healthy (and he is not). They never said he was their man and they have come right out and told him that he is not in the Dolphins future. The only thing they said was that there was going to be an open competition at camp and there is. And of course Green is going to be the starter because out of the 5 QBS in camp he is the best! You guys will all be eating your words when Trent throws for over 3500 yards this year. At which point you will all jump back on the band wagon and act like you have been here all along. What a whining bunch of F'ing morons you people are. LETS GO DOLPHINS!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think Culpepper needs to go. He will not start this year,he won't even be a back up. How can anyone expect the Dolphins to keep a guy who hasn't proven a damn thing. We never should have taken Culpepper over Drew Breeze to begin with. But that was Saban's fault and he's gone (Thank God). So now we have to get rid of all the useless players that Saban left us and Daunte is one of them. I think Cam and Randy are doing the right thing we need a tremendous change on offense and so far they got my vote. Jimmy,Dave and Nick never showed this kind of desire. We need to give them a chance. Hopefully we'll get into the playoffs this year. I believe we may finally have the pieces of the puzzle we've been searching so long for.
I can't believe there are "fans" hoping the Dolphins do bad so they can boo. Are you freaking kidding me?! YOU ARE NOT A FAN IF YOU WANT YOUR TEAM TO LOSE!!!!! Some of you hate Cam and he hasn't even had time to prove himself! What if everything he has done makes our team better immediately and for the future? Will you all admit you were wrong? OBVIOUSLY things have not been working around. They haven't been in the playoffs for 5 years and Cam is trying to change things and you hate him for it?!! You wish things would have stayed the same?!! That's just about the most idiotic way of thinking. I am truly embarrassed to call myself a fellow Dolphins fan when I read some of these things. I really think that the sun has fried your brains down there. Please get a clue.
Bryan, I totally agree with everything you said. We wanted Coach Cameron and Randy Mueller to make wholesale changes, and now that they're doing that, people are calling for their heads already??? C'mon, people! I swear, some of you make me embarassed to be a Dolphins fan, and that's sad, because I'm damn proud to wear the Dolphins colors. But reading some of these comments just makes me shake my head in disgust, and I simply wonder how some of you can be so OVERLY PESSIMISTIC?!?!
I really don't understand all of the support for Daunte Culpepper, I just don't get it. Can someone please explain to me what meaningful things he has done for this franchise since he's been here? He hasn't been healthy, he quit his rehab to rush himself back on the field, and when he did play he showed that he was the same guy from 2005. Lost, confused, and prone to multiple turnovers and sacks. I swear, some of you speak of Culpepper like he is on the same level as Zach Thomas and Jason Taylor, when in reality he isn't anywhere near those two great men!
People, face the facts. Culpepper, did NOTHING for the Miami Dolphins, except collect several million dollars to rehab his knee and ride a stationary bike for the past year. Daunte Culpepper isn't owed anything by the Dolphins organization, and Coach Cameron certainly doesn't owe Culpepper anything. Coach Cameron is not tied to Daunte Culpepper in any way, shape, or form. Culpepper was Saban's quarterback, not Coach Cameron's. I mean, Jay Fiedler won here more than Culpepper ever did and he busted his ass for this team but all we did was boo him out of town and we still curse him to this day. I just don't understand what Culpepper has done to deserve this support. If anything, Daunte should be considered a bigger bust than Fiedler or Feeley for that matter.
A lot of you act as if this desicion with Daunte Culpepper is personal, and it's really not. This was a business desicion by Coach Cameron and Randy Mueller, and a business desicion alone. Coach Cameron and Randy Mueller have no personal vendetta against Daunte, so stop attacking these men as if they do.
You know how they say it's important that a head coach has a strong relationship with his quarterback? Well, maybe Coach Cameron didn't have a strong relationship with Daunte Culpepper. Have you guys ever thought about that? I sincerely doubt it, by the tone of some these ridiculous and asinine posts. That's why Coach Cameron brought in Trent Green. Coach Cameron is comfortable with Trent Green, he has a good realtionship with Trent Green, and he knows that Trent Green can come in right away, run this offense the way it's supposed to be run, and give the Dolphins the best chance to score points, and more importantly the best chance to WIN. I mean, I think we can all agree on the fact that we want the Dolphins to WIN FOOTBALL GAMES, right? I think that's something we can all agree upon?
Coach Cameron inherited Saban's mess, and Wayne Huizenga hired him to clean it up. If part of the clean up involves giving Culpepper the boot, then so be it. If that means drafting Ted Ginn Jr. over Brady Quinn, then so be it. Coach Cameron and Randy Mueller have a plan don't you think we owe it to them as fans, to support their desicions until it becomes clear that it's not working? People, sometimes the most unpopular desicions turn out to be the best desicions. I think it's time we all sit back, take a deep breath, and let's give this new regime the benefit of the doubt. Let's just sit back and watch Randy and Cam's plan unfold. Who knows, a lot of you may actually come to enjoy it.
Its just business. This is one reason why they won't keep Daunte because his quote "all-class manner" is a facade!!! He's totally full of himself and selfish and a lowsy leader. Would you want a QB that storms off a field yelling at his WR's and coaches? And now he's being a d*ck and interupting the trade process!
When will you stupid fin fans see that Daunte is a selfish over rated bone head!
And PS:
I'd much rather have a first class qb like trent!!!
Culpepper's a bum. I can't believe all you guys who think he's the savior. He can't read defenses and doesn't make quick decisions. It's about time some decisive decisions are made. Go Cam and screw all you who have little faith. Isn't rooting for your blessed team about having faith. These guys have done nothing except make the tough decisions noone else has made before them. They have conviction, something that has been lacking. Beck is the man and was a genious choice forgoing Brady Quinn. Culpepper was never a good decision maker and why do most of you seem to want him so bad? I don't get it. Move on already and support the team. Tough decisions have to be made. Quit whining already.
I have to begin to agree with many of the comments being left on here.
Ok, we are not the experts. Let's have some faith in our coach and support our team. I was supporting Culpepper to get a chance to compete, but he is not the right fit for our system. Who cares if we THINK Culpepper may be a better QB, in the wrong system it wouldn't matter. I wasn't really for Trent coming here as the injury last year worried me. But 1 concussion in a career does not make him concussion PRONE. I guess missing one car payment makes you prone to miss all your car payments?
As for the year to come, I don't expect a superbowl ring this year, but I believe our offense will be better this year. We have a talented defense, a very good FB in Cory S., Chambers can be good again, and Ginn can help us get some good starting field position on kicks. With a decent QB (Green) who was a probowler, teams will actually have to worry about us actually being able to pass the ball instead of doing all those damn hike the ball and immediately throw it over to Chambers and hope he can run somewhere with the ball plays. That should help open up some room for Cory to open a hole or two for Ronnie B.
So complain all you want, but show some damn support for our team. They are what they are, and they can compete each week. We proved it last year that we could beat a winning bears team pretty well, so we should be a good competing team this year.
And PS part 2:
Remember Daunte was a d*ck to his new coach in Minnesota when all the new coach did was ask him to rehab in the minny area... Daunte refused.
All signs point to Daunte is a self=centered=D*CK!
Good ridience
I have been a Dolfan for almost 40 years. I have seen Shula and Marino both inducted into the HOF. Today I am ashamed to be a Miami Dolphin fan.
If DC wants to play ball and block any trades when we paid him to ride a bike last year, then let's keep him. Put him in a real game, have the o line not block, and let's watch him get trampled into the turk. Stop being selfish, DC, and let us send you where you could be playing this year,
Yeah I totally agree DC is being a ashhole in not allowing the fins to trade him, that is really selfish of him. I think Green (even if he is old) will be a better leader that DC will ever be.
The whole minesota thing has to make you wonder as to why the new coach couldnt wait to get rid of DC. I think his all class manner is a crock of shiot!
There's one thing I haven't heard anyone mention yet. Daunte himself said, "I tested my knee, and I still have a long way to go."
Hello???!!! If Daunte himself, acting as his own agent, lets that slip out, what does THAT tell you? Daunte is going to do NOTHING this year for ANY team, and he himself knows it.
Randy and Cam are making the right call here, people. Both of these guys have proven track records evaluating and mentoring quarterbacks. You all need to take a chill pill.
Ok CTB, decent point. However, if that was the case, why didn't they pull the trigger on Green earlier? Why wait till now to get him when you know all along that the knee isn't ready? The point is that Scam, and Mueller both lied to Dante. Not only that, but they took something that could of had value, and took a hit. The team took a big loss from the mismanagement of those 2 knuckleheads. So far I would say that Cameron is batting .000. He wasted the first pick, and really set himself up for major scrutiny. What do you loose with having those two battle for the starting spot? So you might say that they knew he wasn't healthy or wasn't gonna be able to grasp the system. Then why didn't they make the trade earlier? If these superior talent evaluators knew that, they must have know then. Making the trade for Green months prior, and giving a 4th rounder for him as we all suspect will be the final word, does make sense. But what they did was make a decision that basically shot them in the foot. All I can see now is JT, and Thomas wanting to bail next year, as a result to another dreadful year. WAY TO GO, you piece of SH*% CAMERON. Best of luck C-Pep. Have a great career elsewhere and show how much of a jack@** Cameron really is!!
I can't believe how some people are making this into such a big deal and crying over how badly Culpepper is being treated. Also, I hate how Culpepper whines to the media through emails....does it remind of anything?!? He did the same thing when he wanted to leave Minnesota. Apparently, nothing is ever his fault, it's all the people around him. I knew it was a bad decision to get him when news first broke last year that we signed him. I got a "meh" because I didn't forget how bad of a season he had in 2005 when he tore his knee apart from a stupid decision he himself made on a play.
Then I remember his first preseaon start for the Phins and his first game against the Steelers. I remember hearing all summer that "I'm ready and should be fine by the start of the season" or "Dr's are saying that I'm well ahead of schedule with my rehab" or "I'm about 90% and should be fine by the start of the season." Then comes his first game where I just sit and notice he holds on the to ball forever. Miscued passes, reads, and then the SACKS!
We owe him nothing. He's Saban's mistake and we just trying to get what we can for him. The only reason we're even hearing about this is because of all the extra media exposure to players nowadays. I'm sure crap like this happened in the Phin's organization before over the past 20-30 years but it was never really a story the newpapers felt fans wanted to hear about.
"Culpepper walking off the field for the last time after a practice was nothing more than a distraction, while Green walking on the field for the first time was the real attraction."
ARMANDO: YOU ARE A STINKING IDIOT. WHEN YOU WRITE CRAP LIKE THIS, YOU DESERVE ALL THE CRITICISM THAT CAN BE PILED ON TO YOU.
WHAT A JERK YOU ARE-- YOU AND CAM DESERVE EACH OTHER.
It's interesting that some of the "fans" want us to "just be patient and give Cam and Randy a chance!" What about Culpepper having a chance to compete? Cameron indicated he preferred that before yanking the rug out from under Culpepper.
Yet the same give Cam a chance crowd is quick to say Daunte has hasn't proven anything and done nothing for this team. So, tell me, what exactly has Cameron done, besides make some highly questionable moves? Sure, Dante's W-L record was dismal at 1-3, but it's one more win than Cameron has produced. Hmmm.
All this to say: it's ugly in Dolphin land if Cam and the boys don't impress right out of the gate. Otherwise, a lot of fans aren't going to stick around for it.
All we can do is wait and see. If Cam is right then all of this will be forgotten. If he's wrong then he will get a worst send off than Saban got.
And I'd start to question H Wayne. He hasn't produced a real contender this decade. Even stinky Atlanta has been to the superbowl since.
Cam talks about being blessed. Well news flash for you Cam. God wants all his children to be treated the same. Show some respect to Daunte. Release him so he can seek his future with another team. Good luck Daunte!! We will miss you. Christian
Can you upset people be serious?
Culpepper has made out pretty well from the Dolphins after they wasted a season and a 2nd round draft pick on him. I wish I was treated as bad by my company as Daunte thinks he has been! They paid him millions and millions of dollars to be perform as a stiff for the team. I understand he once was a good quarterback, but those days are over! He should be happy he was able to fool one last team into thinking he had something left.
Daunte should thank the Dolphins for the ridiculous money they threw away along with the 2006 season. Let me remind all of you foolish Dante supporters! He was the QB the Dolphins passed up on instead of signing Philip Rivers and keeping their 2nd round pick!.
Luckily for the new regime the Dante ERA (YEAR OF LOSING) is over!
Let the Raiders waste their money on him next since they are the only fools left to think Daunte has something left!!
Are we back in high school? This just seems ridiculous to treat Daunte Culpepper....a world-class, seasoned, professional athlete... like a rookie who's just steppin onto a field where real men play!
Will all you losers get a life!!!!
Culpepper sucks!!!! Saban sucks!!!!Need I say more.Cam & Randy have shown me nothing but desire,dedication,and commitment. Look, it's been 5 years since a playoff appearance. Enough is enough already. Lets give them a chance if it doesn't work out than all you bashers can have your day. But for now lets see what happens. I believe these two guys give us the best chance to win. All I want is a winning football team and I trully think we have a chance this year to do just that.
this is CHAS
now Daunte is a great QB no doubt about it, but we already have a good consistent QB named TRENT GREEN and we have a rising star anmed JOHN BECK we dont need daunte in miami, his contract is 51.5 million till 2013 and i dont think he should be making all that money for sitting on a tricycle on the sidelines getting his right knee stronger
i wont the best for him, but we really as a team dont need 5 QB's on the dolphins roster, including John Beck, Trent Green, Cleo Lemon, Daunte Culppeper, Gabrian Hamden.
i hope we release him and he does well some where like detriot or baltimore to be a mentor for youngER Qb's.
-CHAS-
Juan,
I am truly sorry to all of Daunte's fans out there, but the guy really stinks. He look slow and too old to play football. We need to dump him, and try to get something from him. Sounds very cruel to say. BUT... We live in a business world. Besides, even though Daunte was a great QB, he never became the super type of QB like Joe Montana, Steve Young, Jim Kelly, Warren Moon, or Dan Marino.
Daunte... if you are reading this comment, I didn't mean to ofend you, but like I said we live in a business world. You didn't contribute enough to earn some respect, then you need to leave in OUR TERMS. SO.... don't complain like a baby.... and take it like a man.
I have also been a life long fan of the dolphins. But come on - you cant tell me that Culpepper was a good pickup for the team to start. He was way past his time when they got him. I see nothing wrong with the restructuring of the team. It can only get better from here. The team will get closer to the playoffs this year then they have done anytime in recent years - just give them a chance - WITHOUT Cullpepper
Let Culpepper go immediatley so we can sign him here at the Jaguars' camp to take over for the ne'er do well and stumblefooted Byron Leftwich!
All u fucking wanna be DOLFANS stop crying...FUCK DAUNTE he hasnt done shit for the team except use up money and picks...Green is a consistant QB no matter his age, lets not forget how long Marino played with bad knees and was still a great QB...Cam is doing exactley what we need...Welker was good, but its been a long time since we've had a real playmaker on special teams. Who can deny what a difference Hester made for the bears! Booker to relieve Ronnie...Up and coming Crowder, the addition of Porter, and Beck, we have a promising future...So suck it up and act like a fan i cant beleive the whinning im hearing...The real DOLFANS dont wanna hear your crap!
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