Perfect Dolphins react to Patriots 16-0 record
The Patriots have just defeated the New York Giants 38-35 to complete their regular season with a 16-0 record. So they have a perfect regular season.
Here are some reactions to that feat by the 1972 Dolphins which were undefeated in the regular season and went on to complete their perfect 17-0 season with a Super Bowl victory.
Head Coach Don Shula: “Going undefeated during the regular season is a remarkable achievement. I know first hand how difficult it is to win every game, and just as we did in 1972, the Patriots have done a great job concentrating on each week’s opponent and not letting any other distractions interrupt that focus. If they go on to complete an undefeated season, I will be the first to congratulate Coach Belichick and the Patriot organization.”
Defensive Tackle Manny Fernandez: “Congratulations to the Patriots for winning all of their regular season games. If they finish without a loss, it’s almost going to be a relief to me. That way, the media will start to call them the first eight or nine games each year whenever a team starts undefeated instead of calling us. That will give us a break.”
Running Back Jim Kiick: “If they finish up undefeated, I would be the one of the first to help lift their chair up on the mountaintop. Going undefeated in the regular season is a great accomplishment. But I’m sure going 16-0 isn’t important to them – they wan to go 19-0. If they finish 18-1 by losing the Super Bowl, there’s no doubt they would look at it as a disappointing season. And that’s the way we viewed it back in 1972. Our main objective wasn’t going undefeated, it was to win the Super Bowl. So it’s great that they’ve gotten this far, but I know what’s really important to them is to win that last game, not necessarily all the ones before it.”
Guard Bob Kuechenberg: “They’ve done a heck of a job thus far. But now the exhibition season is over and the real season begins. Obviously, if they can win their first playoff game, beat an even more dangerous Colts team, and then Brett Favre or the Dallas Cowboys in the Super Bowl, I will be the first to take my hat off to them. If they can pull it off, they will have earned it.
“But my heart is dead set against it. The ’72 team in uniquely immortal in American sports and I don’t want us to lose that special place. We will forever be immortal, and if they win every game in front of them, then they will join us among those ranks. They will have deserved it ant I will congratulate them. But something in my heart makes me feel that we accomplished something so special that it forever sets the standard of excellence in sports.
“Imperfect is mortal. Perfect is immortal.”
Tight End Jim Mandich: “My sincerest congratulations go out to the Patriots. In this salary cap-era, free agency-era, I didn’t think it could be done, and the Patriots did it. They are a remarkable team. They are terrifically coached, and if somebody was going to tie the Miami Dolphins record in the regular season of going unbeaten, it’s appropriate that it would be the Patriots because they are a class act.”
Quarterback Earl Morrall: “I’d like to congratulate the New England Patriots. They’ve had a great run and a great season in winning all of their games. I’m sure if they look at it, it’s a difficult thing to do. They play great football, so you’ve got to compliment them on that. Now you’ve got to see if they can finish it and go the distance – the playoffs, championship and Super Bowl. You’ve got those to go to end up perfect, and we’ll be the first ones to congratulate them if they do it.”
Running Back Mercury Morris: “My feeling about it is as consistent as it has been all year. It doesn’t matter to me whether or not they win them all because it doesn’t affect anything we’ve done. When all the dust clears, the best they can do is to stand beside us, and in the end, that’s not a bad thing. I will welcome them to the neighborhood with my Mr. Rogers sweater on, but first they have to get to the neighborhood.”
Here are some reactions to that feat by the 1972 Dolphins which were undefeated in the regular season and went on to complete their perfect 17-0 season with a Super Bowl victory.
Head Coach Don Shula: “Going undefeated during the regular season is a remarkable achievement. I know first hand how difficult it is to win every game, and just as we did in 1972, the Patriots have done a great job concentrating on each week’s opponent and not letting any other distractions interrupt that focus. If they go on to complete an undefeated season, I will be the first to congratulate Coach Belichick and the Patriot organization.”
Defensive Tackle Manny Fernandez: “Congratulations to the Patriots for winning all of their regular season games. If they finish without a loss, it’s almost going to be a relief to me. That way, the media will start to call them the first eight or nine games each year whenever a team starts undefeated instead of calling us. That will give us a break.”
Running Back Jim Kiick: “If they finish up undefeated, I would be the one of the first to help lift their chair up on the mountaintop. Going undefeated in the regular season is a great accomplishment. But I’m sure going 16-0 isn’t important to them – they wan to go 19-0. If they finish 18-1 by losing the Super Bowl, there’s no doubt they would look at it as a disappointing season. And that’s the way we viewed it back in 1972. Our main objective wasn’t going undefeated, it was to win the Super Bowl. So it’s great that they’ve gotten this far, but I know what’s really important to them is to win that last game, not necessarily all the ones before it.”
Guard Bob Kuechenberg: “They’ve done a heck of a job thus far. But now the exhibition season is over and the real season begins. Obviously, if they can win their first playoff game, beat an even more dangerous Colts team, and then Brett Favre or the Dallas Cowboys in the Super Bowl, I will be the first to take my hat off to them. If they can pull it off, they will have earned it.
“But my heart is dead set against it. The ’72 team in uniquely immortal in American sports and I don’t want us to lose that special place. We will forever be immortal, and if they win every game in front of them, then they will join us among those ranks. They will have deserved it ant I will congratulate them. But something in my heart makes me feel that we accomplished something so special that it forever sets the standard of excellence in sports.
“Imperfect is mortal. Perfect is immortal.”
Tight End Jim Mandich: “My sincerest congratulations go out to the Patriots. In this salary cap-era, free agency-era, I didn’t think it could be done, and the Patriots did it. They are a remarkable team. They are terrifically coached, and if somebody was going to tie the Miami Dolphins record in the regular season of going unbeaten, it’s appropriate that it would be the Patriots because they are a class act.”
Quarterback Earl Morrall: “I’d like to congratulate the New England Patriots. They’ve had a great run and a great season in winning all of their games. I’m sure if they look at it, it’s a difficult thing to do. They play great football, so you’ve got to compliment them on that. Now you’ve got to see if they can finish it and go the distance – the playoffs, championship and Super Bowl. You’ve got those to go to end up perfect, and we’ll be the first ones to congratulate them if they do it.”
Running Back Mercury Morris: “My feeling about it is as consistent as it has been all year. It doesn’t matter to me whether or not they win them all because it doesn’t affect anything we’ve done. When all the dust clears, the best they can do is to stand beside us, and in the end, that’s not a bad thing. I will welcome them to the neighborhood with my Mr. Rogers sweater on, but first they have to get to the neighborhood.”
posted by Armando Salguero at 11:37 PM
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Patriots are now the 4th team in NFL history to go undefeated in the regular season.
What is wrong with the old Dolphins? Why can't they understand that 16-0 is BETTER than 14-0! Alzheimer's? And I'm sure Merc must be back on the crack.
Yay...the refs gave them another game so the rating will continue to soar and we can listen to all the annoucers suckin Tom Brady's little dcik.....
Fcuk Bellicheat and those pretenders....
Mark it down today...The Patriots will not even make it to the super bowl. Their schedule and division was a cake walk. The Colts or Jags will represent the AFC this year and the patriots will go down as the biggest dissapointment in sports history.
they'll lose in the divisional game, just like they did to denver a couple years back.
I hope someone breaks Randy Moss' right leg
Armando and guys in general:
I know not avery body will understand it, but you will Armando, as many Latin men and women and Spanish speakers (plenty of them in Miami)
This I posted in my blog tonight:
Hace unos meses escribí un poco sobre lo que llamé la metafísica del base ball... hoy lo haré sobre la hermenéutica de una temporada perfecta. Los Patriotas de Nueva Inglaterra, acérrimos rivales de los Delfines (equipo de mi corazón) igualaron la marca de una temporada regular sin derrota, misma que tenían los Delfines del 72. Al mismo tiempo, Tom Brady superó la marca de pases de anotación en una temporda (50) y Randy Moss la de recepciones de anotación (23). Patriotas anotó esta temporada 589 puntos, más que nadie en la historia de la liga. Son simplemente los mejores.
Ahora bien... ¿dónde queda la filosofía aquí? Los Patriotas del 2007 son un equipo que hoy todo fanático del americano ama... u odia. Mientras veía el partido noté que había gente deseando realmente que perdieran. ¿Por qué? ¿Por qué desear que quienes han trabajado arduamente, día a día, esforzándose más que nadie, no sientan la enorme felicidad que los Patriotas merecían? ¿Por qué hay gente que no puede soportar la euforia y felicidad de otros, su grandeza, su meta lograda? Supongo que les recuerda un poco sus metas fallidas y sus deseos irrealizados. Envidia le llaman en la Biblia... y en el Corán... y en el Talmud... y mi bisabuelita (R.I.P.)
Eso sólo pasa cuando uno concibe el mundo como lleno de entidades separadas, como un lugar sin cohesión en el que el otro me es ajeno, donde mi yo me constituye individualmente en mi entendimiento, falso, de la vida. El fracaso de los otros comprueba que no vale la pena esforzarse y justifica las caidas propias de las que el sujeto no se levantó. Ese es el por qué. Pero... ¿qué se gana con eso sino volverse mezquino?
Hoy los Patriotas ganaron y me siento feliz por ello... aunque le voy a los Delfines, por que intenté sentir lo que ellos estaban sintindo, lo que Tom Brady, Randy Moss, Wes Welker estaban viviendo. Euforia, alegría, emoción, intensidad. Al ver al derredor uno puede ver rivales... o puede ver hermanos. El que ve rivales goza y sufre oscuramente. Quien ve hermanos también sufre y goza, pero siempre con un dulce sabor de boca... ese mismo que deja el amor.
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Let it go people. It's a piece of history that isnt. Maybe if we werent so busy living in the past we would have a better team here and now. The old men need to let it go.
I can't resist mentioning that the Patriots had some more help tonight from the refs in pulling together a perfect season. They SHOULD have lost the Baltimore game and this game could have been a different story if it wasn't for that bullsh*t holding penalty in the 1st quarter that gave them a first down! ALSO...I'd just like to mention that the Pats going 16-0 versus the Fins going 14-0 shouldn't mean that the Pats are better. That's how long the regular season was back in those days...it's not the Dolphins' fault. Only if they go on to win the Super Bowl will they be considered as good as the '72 team.
as usual the dolphins pon thier chest."oh they will stand beside us? no, they won 16 in a row, not 12 and forget the super bowl, this is a season undefeated. "get on with the real season this was an expedtion", get a life you loser. I am so tired of the old dolphins it time to sell them for OLD FISH.
It's funny how frequently the refs have made incredibly questionable calls in favor of the Patriots the past few years. There were a couple of instances of it tonight, along with their matches against the Ravens and Colts too. In fact, come to think of it, I have never seen a repeat of the "tuck rule" since it "originated" in that snowy game in early 2002. That said, I am quite confident the "tuck rule" will be called again if and only if Tom Brady fumbles at a pivotal moment during the playoffs.
Does the NFL deliberately tell the officiating crews to favor the Patriots? One can't help but wonder...
Anyway, the Patriots will win the Super Bowl if the questionable officiating continues. Without help from zebras, I seriously do not think the Patriots can beat the Colts and the Jaguars.
Oops, I meant to say that the Patriots will win the Super Bowl if the questionable officiating continues and if they are able to get away with their spy games. Without spying tactics and help from zebras, I seriously do not think the Patriots can beat the Colts and the Jaguars.
Congratulating the Patriots on their 16-0 record is on par with congratulating Barry Bonds on breaking Hank Aaron's record. Just like using steroids, using spying tactics is wrong and unsportsmanlike.
In your heart, you know neither one deserves their record.
The DOLPHINS have no one else to blame for the patsies undefeated regular season' withuot wes welker the patsies would have lost a game or two. how can the PHINS let a WR go that is that good. don't tell me cap reason they could have made it happen.that being said the pattsies will not win the super bowl. there weekest link is D and and its going to bite them in the but. you heard it here first. REMEMBER THAT STATEMENT!! last but not least the nfl and the refs should be flagged for unsportsman like conduct, they are doing what ever it takes to help the cheatters go undefeated.(RATINGS)the patsies, they been cheatting for a long time remember the snow plow. FINFAN FOR LIFE WIN OR LOOSE!!!!!
wow, you miami fans are really a class act - if you really believe all the crap you are saying about officiating and the league doing this or that in favor of new england - you need to get out of the sun and rejoin reality. I'd bet if you go back to the fins perfect season, you might find a call or two that could be questioned, you might find a wn or two that had some luck involved. so try to find some class this morning miami - you're gonna need it over the next few years of rebuilding - look for the positives instead of dumping on those who are simply better at this game than your guys are right now..
Here are some positives, Mueller and Cam are gone as soon as Monday per PFT.com.
What a bunch of ungracious whinners. The '72 fish have an over-inflated sense of their place in history--NOBODY OUTSIDE OF MAIMI EVEN KNOWS WHO THEY ARE!
Get over it losers--the Pats are for real--Mercury Morris is not even making sense--go back to jail convict--the '72 fish could not even carry the jocks of these Pats.
GO PATRIOTS!!!
If it's so easy to go 16-0 (according to some old fish) then why are the dolphins 1-14?
The 72 dolphins couldnt hold the Pats jockstraps
How many teams over 500 did the 72 Dolphins play? TWO. And they where one game over 500
Thanks for Wes Walker. : )
Your own team is responsible for the Pats 16-0 (not 14-0) record
what a pathetic bunch of crybabies on here. Get some class.
Equating the signal taping to Bonds is simply ridiculous. That was one game, and they didn't even use the signals from that. Please. Plus, it's widely known that most if not all teams do it/did it - in fact the Jets were busted.
I won't even go into the nutty conspiracy people that talk about the refs calling "in favor" of the Pats. Do you know how pathetic you sound?
I love to be a fan of the classiest organization in the league, and listen week after week to the poor bastards cry about it. And '72 Dolphins? get real, and get your head out of the past - the party is over.
What the Pats did was great, if they go undeafted the rest of the way then that is great. it takes luck and sometimes funny calls to go undefeated. Bob Griese threw an interception in the Min game that was nullified by a roughing the passer call that by then stadards was a little iffy. Couse they went on to win the game.
the Pats are very much like the dolphins in 72 in reguards of focus, but they never had the injuries to overcome. If brady and Moss had missed a combined 15 games this season do you think they would have gone undefeated.
The pats talk about team play, the 72 guys were the poster boy of team. Earl Morrel came in for Griese and had the longest run from scrimage by anyone (mercury should be embarressed by that), Howard Twilley had they best yards per catch of his career. Guys steped up, the 53 defense was named after Bob mathison number and when the whole NFL was a 4 sometimes 5 down lineman league they reintroduced the 3 4 because they didn't have enough healthy down linemen.
Give the Pats thier due, but make them play the champonship game away like the Dolphins did at Pittsburg.
i dont know about any of you fin fans but i never been on a patsies web sites.it just shows you what idoits the pats fans are
To all you Anonymous cowards crying because your team sucks, boo hoo. And to the (Fcuk Bellicheat) idiot that can't spell or is stupid to use spell check, kiss my a$$! Pretenders never will be 16-0... The Patriots are, and I'm glad it makes you miserable. Oh gee, maybe the refs will GIVE us the Super bowl. Oh well, I guess I have to remain Anonymous for fear of my own safety from mentally disturbed wack jobs like yourself.
Go Patriots!
dude, I go to this site because I live here now.
Dude you ain't done sh*t yet, wait to see if you win the Super Bowl.
I just wish the '72's would be as honest as I am....I was 15 in '72 and a diehard Finfan....I wish the pats would die....I don't want to share this record with anyone....'72 should NEVER be repeated....Shula and the boys were respected...these guys are arseholes. If you're not a pats fan you're rooting against them....The '72's were a national phenominem....as John Facenda (voice of God on NFL films back then) said about the '72's being undefeated...."It is unlikely to EVER happen again"....) F you pats and your second city (to NY...who doesn't even pay attention to your sorry azzes) mentality....die in a plane crash please!!!!
patriots will go down in the playoffs write it down the colts jaguars and cowboys one of those teams will get it done!
14-0 (with no cheating) is better than the Cheatriot's 16-0*.
With an asterik!
They are cheaters. Great team - yes, but cheaters nonetheless.
patsfansince65 said...
"wow, you miami fans are really a class act - if you really believe all the crap you are saying about officiating and the league doing this or that in favor of new england - you need to get out of the sun and rejoin reality. I'd bet if you go back to the fins perfect season, you might find a call or two that could be questioned, you might find a wn or two that had some luck involved. so try to find some class this morning miami - you're gonna need it over the next few years of rebuilding - look for the positives instead of dumping on those who are simply better at this game than your guys are right now.."
Yea the Pats are really a class act i forgot how they never went for it on 4th down up 20 points and never ran the score up on teams this year. damn they're classy. played their starters all game every game and everyody knows that randy moss isthe classiest guy in sports. him and terrell owens. belichieck shows tons of class each time they play the jets too i mean what classy guy wouldn't shove camera men out of the way for that sincere handshake? and when you guys signed wes welker with that poison pill making that huge contract guranteed if he plays more than four games in florida in a year, then what choice did we have but to let you have him? so don't act like we just let him go because we didn't want him anymore. lets see how great he is next year when randy moss takes the big money contract elsewhere. too bad you didn't play the broncos this year because they would have beat you like they do every time they play you. then again you got caught cheating against the jets (for the 3rd time) you all know that you lost to the ravens and you also screwed over the eagles. i'll admit you're a good team and much betetr than us this year and there is no denying that. but i will also admit that every single year you guys are the beneficiaries of the most one sided officiating games anyone has ever seen. win the superbowl without any bs and then maybe the dolphins fans will show some of that class that the pats show. oh and lastly there is no such thing as a pats fan since 65. every pats fan started being a pats fan 7 years ago. there were o pats fans and you are all just a bunch of bandwagoners who know nothing about football and never will.
i love all the "i hate the patriots, may they die in plane crashes" comments. Truly priceless. Really. Class folks, certainly.
Also the "let's blame the conspiracy of the officials" nut bag excuses. Seriously? are you really for real? this is all a giant con job? Take it easy all you Oliver Stones. Go figure out who killed Kennedy or something.
This is the best time ever to be a Patriots fan.
I just like living here now, and shoving it in your faces.
All I can say is I like how these anonymous so called Pats fans talk as if they got off their lazy butts and actually played in all those games. Go back to playing Madden and stop being pretenders. Also, 16-0 doesn't mean a damn thing if you don't end up with a 0 in the post season loss column.
If that happens then come back and humor us some more so we can give you all a pretend ticker tape parade in your silver and blue double wide. As for class acts-Tom Brady gets my vote for Father of the year award and Moss and Hell-a-chick get the top spot for Mr. Personality. Until the clock winds down in the SuperBowl...Buh-bye
Patriots Nation can go celebrate with Barry Bonds.
Nobody cares about cheaters.
Let's see what kind of "tuck rule" the refs will come up with this year to help the Patriots win.
Can you imagine the reaction of the Pats fans if those calls had gone against them last night instead of for them. They are the biggest bunch of crybabies ever and they still complain about calls even though they finished Regular season undefeated. Unless they win the super bowl that perfect regular season means nothing and then they can try to match the 1972 Dolphins again. I cant wait to read and hear the crying once they lose!!!
THE PATRIOTS ARE THE BETTER TEAM... 16-0 IS BETTER THAN 14-0.. if the '72 dolphins had 2 more games to play, anything could have happened on any given sunday, but the patriots played the tougher schedule, the patriots played the longer schedule and the patriots have the better record... and spygate has nothing to do with it... it did not affect the outcome of the game... how can you use film in the same game you are filming it?? and all the rest of the stuff got taken away... yet the result: 16-0 perfect season... and don't talk about the previous years... the patriots have been super bowl contenders for the past 7 years... even if they had every signal of every call for every opponent.. they still have to go out and execute.... patriots are a better team than the '72 dolphins and the dolphins would look a lot better as a team if they would just accept it and appreciate what the patriots are doing instead of getting defensive and abrupt saying that they have already done it.. well they haven't done it, they have never been 19-0... EVER
oh, and don't commend the refs for the patriots perfect regular season... go back to any previous season.. ANY season and you will find questionable calls going against the patriots every time(i.e. colts, broncos.. and thats just the playoffs) even this season the refs tried giving the game to the colts, and after the final knee for the patriots you could see tom brady go up to the refs and say, YOU TRIED LOSING IT FOR US, AND WE OVERCAME IT AND WON ANYWAY (not in those exact words.. but you get my point)... so research the patriots games and then comment on the refs favoring the patriots... you see the tuck rule and a couple questionable calls that could go either way and you think you know everything
Jasper, don't try comparing the Patsies to the 72 Phins because unless your name is God then you have no clue who would win and who wouldn't. Like they say any given Sunday anybody could win. Also, unless you are God I don't really contemplate those 2 teams playing against each other anytime soon unless Mr. Know-it-all you know something my sources don't.
cant wait for these cheating score running up scumbags to be brought back to earth best ending pretty boy brady on a stretcher with a career ending injury
in my eyes and i am sure many others the patriots are 15-1 because if the leauge had any guts the game they were caught cheating in should have been a forfeit'and i dont want to hear it was only 1 game it was the 1 time they were caught they have been doing it for years so wear all those rings in shame punks!!!
I am a hard-core Dolphan. Harder than many of you guys.
But I am really impressed from all the negative emotions a person can carry with.
Wow... wishes for carrier ending injuries, death wishes (!!) and so on. Guys you don't even know what you're talking about.
Accept the effort of the others. Accept they are the best and be happy there are persons with outstanding will and abilities.
Accept also that they would defeat our 72 Dolphins cause they are better. It's not a matter of 16-0 14-0. If the season back in 72 would have had 16 games Shula & Co. would have won them as well. But, the quality of today's style of game, the bodies, sizes, speed, etc. of today's NFL is superior.
I have no problem with other people being happy. I rather take a look at my own life and try to be happy as well, instead of feeling envy.
You want to compare 16-0 to 14-0, and say one is better than the other?
How about this - Take away Tom Brady and tell me the Patriots would be undefeated right now. The '72 Dolphins were so good collectively that they won most of their games with their BACKUP QB.
How about this - Force the Patriots to play the AFC Championship away from home and see how they fare. That's what the Dolphins were forced to face, and they still won the championship in Pittsburgh.
The '72 Dolphins' rushing game would not be stopped by the Pats. Furthermore, Brady would receive real hits from the '72 Dolphins' defense. Him and Randy Moss would be rattled so badly that it would not even be close.
None of this talk will matter after the Patriots lose, whether it happens two, three or five weeks from now. They may be the fourth team to finish the regular season undefeated, but they will not become the second team to finish an entire season undefeated.
to the 2:18 AM imbecile comments above - a couple of things...first, we older pats fans took a lot of crap from clowns like you when Miami was good - and we took it because our team wsn't as good - period. didn't talk about killing Griese or Czonka - just tipped our hats and hoped our team would get better. Whiners like you need to find a dictionary and look up the word humility - then get some. Second, as far as winning the championship game in Pittsburgh - the Patriots have been there and done that during the 2001 run to the SB 36 win over St. Louis. so before you whine any more - get some facts and then find some humility - because you're gonna need it for the next few years of drubbings your team's gonna get from New England,Buffalo, and pretty much every other team in the NFL.
Enjoy the ofseason - maybe take in a Marlins game, that should make you feel better about the Dolphins.
I bet you didn't tip your hat in 72 when you were beat 52-0 one of the 3 shutout the defense put up. The rules have changed you cant touch a recieve after 5 yards.
It is a little redicules to ask for season ending injuries, i have never been that bad.
the Dolphins are not as bad as our record but we do suck.
Sometimes this years team sucks and next years in the playoffs.
What the Pats have done year in and year out lately is amazing. They deserve all the credit, but being undeafted is just the first part. You have to win the Superbowl. Ask the 12-0 Chicago bears who were beaten in the champonship game 73-0.
patsfansince65 said...
"the Patriots have been there and done that during the 2001 run to the SB 36 win over St. Louis. so before you whine any more - get some facts and then find some humility"
tuck rule? no, don't remember it. i don't remember the 72 dolphins making up rules to beat the raiders.
I would just like for one Patriot fan to give a credible and worthy explanation of how we are supposed to ignore the FACT that the Patriots were caught cheating this year. It does not say or prove anything for years past but it does certainly taint their past and the "integrity" of the team. Please tell us how were are to completely ignore the fact that they were caught and admitted to cheating. Please.
tuck rule? no, don't remember it. i don't remember the 72 dolphins making up rules to beat the raiders.
you guys are stupid... the patriots have been a dominant super bowl contender for the past 7 years... the '72 dolphins had 2 years where they were dominant... the patriots also have the record for most consecutive regular season wins(actually just beat their own record against the giants with 19) and they own the unofficial record(including playoffs) with 21, which if they go 19-0 will most likely be crushed during next year.. so enough... the patriots are a better team and bill belichick is the best coach of all time, look who he had in 2003... shut up... hes just unbelievable and that is undeniable
also... look up the tuck rule, its EXACTLY what happened in that play and ANY football analyst will tell you that... do a little research before you start commenting... tom brady and bill belichick are just the best and thats all there is to it... the '72 dolphins would look a lot better as a team if they would appreciate the patriots' greatness instead of getting defensive and start talking about 1A and 1B.. it doesn't matter who did it first, the patriots have the tougher schedule, the patriots have the longer schedule and the patriots have the better record
for ceed and the others who are so wrapped around the axle about the tuck rule - bottom line is, it's a rule - it's in the book (look it up) and the Pats didn't make it up they were simply lucky enough that the officials knew the rules better than some of you gomers...that being said - y'all seem to forget that NE still had to do something with the second chance in that game (could have thrown an INT, not made a 1st down whatever) and then, after beating Oakland, they had to beat PITT in PITT (for those historically challenged among you who may have missed that item earlier) and then beat the "Greatest Show on Turf" on the Superdome Turf in NO when nobody gave them a chance. I've not forgotten 52-0 drubbings, like I said, tip the cap and hope to get better. Different rules (5 yard chucks)? - how about free agency and the salary cap?...think the 72 fins would have even been together under those rules? Get over it man. The current New England organization is running circles around the rest of them (how bout picking 7th in the 1st round of the 08 draft AFTER losing their pick for CHEATING OK so they cheated - get over that too...they got caught, they paid the price - move the f**k on). - get ready for Tuna trading your #1 pick for lots of other picks because you guys got more holes right now than the freakin Titanic.
Happy new year- see you in the 2017 Divisional round (maybe).
Whoever said this:
"also... look up the tuck rule, its EXACTLY what happened in that play and ANY football analyst will tell you that... do a little research before you start commenting.."
you're an idiot. The tuck rule was added the year AFTER the refs blew the call in the raiders game. The NFL put it in just to make them look like less of a bunch of buffoons for calling it the first place. So... do a liitle research before you comment...
Boston sports fans are the gayest of the gay. They prove it every time they speak.
stop making fun of boston fans because you are jealous, any fan of any sport would die to be a boston fan right now... patriots are going 19-0.. celtics are dominating.. red sox won the world series and are looking for johan santana
also... check this out...
http://www.chff.net/Articles/11_1984_NE-NY%3A_two_thumbs_up.html
http://www.chff.net/Articles/7_641_Most_dominant_ever?_2007_Patriots.html
http://www.chff.net/Articles/10_1998_Power_Rankings:_Week_17_2007.html
pick some more to read about the patriots dominance... the stats are there, teh patriots ARE 16-0 and no matter what you stupid people say about spygate, teh patriots will continue to play and win games, so make fun of the boston fans.. make fun of the patriots, hope the patriots' player have season ending injuries, but the fact is the patriots are going to play and win games
You only have to go back to last year's AFC championship game to see the refs throwing the balance against the Patriots in a big game. They decided to stop calling all holding penalties in the second half to allow the Colts back in it. If they hadn't, the Colts wouldn't have had time to come back and win.
As far as videotaping goes, that was preparation, not cheating. Many teams on many levels of football used it as a standard practice. Just because the Patriots misinterpreted the new memo (in which they thought that the tapes could not be used during the game in play), it doesn't mean that they should forfeit that game or any other. Before this year, the videotaping was perfectly legal and was part of a team that did as much as they could to be prepared for the next time they faced a division opponent.
Now, the reason I'm here (I'm a Bears fan, and by the way, it was the Bears who beat the Redskins 73-0 in a different year: the 1940 championship game) -- does anyone know why the undefeated Dolphins had to play in Pittsburg for the 1972 AFC Championship? Were there different rules back then for home field advantage or was it predetermined and a coincidence?
Some idiot Patriot fan called Wes Welker, Wes Walker. Are you sure you've been watching your Patriots this season?? And last time I check, they still have some games to win to tie the '72 Dolphins perfect season and they did it without their starting QB for most of the season. What would the Pats have done without Brady?????
but thats the whole point.... thats why the patriots are better, because of tom brady, he's the best QB in NFL history.. they'd get far, but definitely wouldn't be undefeated, look what bill belichick did with the team in 2001, and 2003... 2001 was just awesome, 2003 was just dominant, they didn't have any stars on either of those teams
.. so thank you for making my point that tom brady is the best QB in NFL history
... and by "stars", I mean anyone other than richard seymour and tom brady
I am from Missouri - The 1972 Dolphins remain in my memory as a time of happiness. So I have an emotional response to the patriots.
Ohg.
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/01/08/new-england-patriots-love-or-hate/
The Patriots officially clinched their fifth straight AFC East title on November 25, in the process becoming the first NFL team to be docked a first-round pick since the Miami Dolphins lost their first round pick in 1970 for tampering during the hiring of Don Shula.
DON SHULA CHEATED
wow... I'm astounded at the number of insipid, venal people who post in this argument. For cryin out loud guys, its a friggin game. I wanna see my team win, want our records to stand, but wishing death and injury on opponents -- dudes, y'all are sick. I'd rather say we beat your best, beat em healthy. Yeah, my Dolphins had the worst year of just about any team in history this year and like any real fan, I sweated thru and look to next year. But despite all the "better / worse" crap spouted above, the record is clear -- with the giants whipping the Pats, only ONE team in history has had a PERFECT season. Miami forever.
17-0 is PERFECT. 18-1 is NOT, the
Patriots LOST the superbowl to a wild card team...yeah good for them they had an undefeted regular season, but there is still only ONE perfect team and that is the 72MIAMI DOLPHINS.
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