Daunte Culpepper meets with Bucs
FORMER Dolphins quarterback Daunte Culpepper met with the Tampa Bay Bucs today, but don't make too much out of this little nugget just yet.
Culpepper, now a free agent, is shopping his wares around the NFL and because his preference is to stay in his home state of Florida, he has reached out to both the Bucs and Jacksonville Jaguars.
Culpepper met with Bucs coach Jon Gruden today despite the fact the Bucs have four other QBs on the roster. Gruden, as you might guess, will talk to anybody that has ever played quarterback in the NFL.
But I believe this is a preliminary meeting because Daunte didn't work out and didn't visit team doctors. Unless you've been living under a rock lately, you know Daunte's knee is still an issue so any team with legitimate interest in the guy will get him to its team doctor almost immediately.
Time is important here because the Bucs first training camp practice is next Friday. It seems likely Culpepper will also try to meet with the Jaguars.
So here's the question: Do any of you think Culpepper will regain his form and be the guy the Dolphins hoped they could get when they gave up a second round pick for him last year? Or do you think the guy's career is over and he's hanging on by a thread to be a backup?
Culpepper, now a free agent, is shopping his wares around the NFL and because his preference is to stay in his home state of Florida, he has reached out to both the Bucs and Jacksonville Jaguars.
Culpepper met with Bucs coach Jon Gruden today despite the fact the Bucs have four other QBs on the roster. Gruden, as you might guess, will talk to anybody that has ever played quarterback in the NFL.
But I believe this is a preliminary meeting because Daunte didn't work out and didn't visit team doctors. Unless you've been living under a rock lately, you know Daunte's knee is still an issue so any team with legitimate interest in the guy will get him to its team doctor almost immediately.
Time is important here because the Bucs first training camp practice is next Friday. It seems likely Culpepper will also try to meet with the Jaguars.
So here's the question: Do any of you think Culpepper will regain his form and be the guy the Dolphins hoped they could get when they gave up a second round pick for him last year? Or do you think the guy's career is over and he's hanging on by a thread to be a backup?
posted by Armando Salguero at 6:45 PM
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Good scoop, Mando.
Honestly, I think his career as a starter is over. Unless Culpepper makes extreme changes to his "mental approach" of the game, he'll be nothing more than a backup. That knee injury, took away the biggest part of his game. Thanks for the scoop, Armando! Interesting scenario, to say the least.
I think Culpepper is done. An injury like that is just too much to overcome. That being said, I think Jacksonville and Atlanta are the two most likely teams to sign him.
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Mando:
Thanks for the info, although I'm trying to put the Daunte 'era' behind me. Very hard to say for sure regarding his future prospects but suffice to say, he did rely on his mobility and size a lot prior to the injury. Coupled with his penchant for fumbling the ball and suspect ability to read defenses, his lack of mobility, if it persists, might be too much for him as I'm not sure he's really a 'student' of the game per se, which would allow him to make up for it. And once teams know you can't move as well, it's blitz, blitz, blitz to get him out of rhythm. We'll see how healthy he is in time. I seem to remember David Boston declaring himself '100%' after knee trouble too and he's been a mere shadow of his former self ever since.
Lets not forget what team we are talking about. This is another bad decision by the dolphins that will bite them you know where. This is just another possible huge mistake that was made, and just this year.
1. Quinn vs Ginn (or Ginn vs any DL)
2. Porter with that huge contract
3. Green and his eggs
4. Hiring Cameron
5. C-pep
Please let these moves work out. I don't want to have 3 years of disgust. But for some reason I feel its gonna happen
I think he can play as a starter for a middle or low level team or be a good backup for any, I even think he will have some really good games down the line, but I also believe he will never equal his previous Pro Bowl years at Minnesota.
The mistake the Dolphins did was not the fact they release Culpepper today, it really was to select him over Drew Brees last year.
Meanwhile, back at Jags camp...The Jacksonville Jaguars gave a tryout to a Bag of Hammers today. They passed their physical and are expected to sign in the next couple of days.
This probably ends the Jags interest in Daunte Culpepper since a Bag of Hammers has consistantly shown the abilty to make better decisions than Culpepper and have a better track record vs. any opponent with a pulse.
In other news, Daunte Culpepper announced he has fired his long time agent and friend today at a press conference in Tampa. Citing arrogance and incompetence as two of his agents biggest downfalls, Daunte was none-the-less saddened by the long term relationship coming to an end. He and his agent were both present at the press conference. Daunte was beside himself.
Now don't read too much into this little nugget since every other media outlet in the country reported it before myself.
I'm a great reporter aren't I?
Armando, as always, we appreciate the information. I see you posted this at 6:45 which was way before ESPN and other outlets had the news.
Just wish the previous IDIOT on here would be able to tell time.
But mostly, just wish the Dolphins would make the right decisions with personnel for a change.
I love the Dolphins!
CPep is a ghost in the NFL. He may linger around for a while but we won't see him.
I like that you're blogging more often again, Mando.
"Just wish the previous IDIOT on here would be able to tell time." - Bob-Who-Plays-The-Flesh-Flute
Come on Bob....Is that all you can muster for a comeback???!!!
PFT reported the Culpepper visit at 3:45pm today and it has been on most boards all afternoon. Not to mention television and radio.
Get with the program butt-plug!There's a world of information out there beyond this second rate blog. So get your nose out of Armando's sphincter and explore other worlds. You'll stay informed on a timely basis and won't have to participate in such drivel as "Someone please give me some suggestions as to what I should ask the coach!"
Bob. BOB??? Is that your name or what you do for fun? Hmmmm....
Put it this way, Armando. Daunte has a better future as an NFL quarterback than Trent "Over the hill" Green does playing for his sweetheart Cam "Family Man" Cameron. Daunte is and was one of the best QB in the NFL, he just needed a team with patience and class to stand behind him while he recuperates. He is now close to 100 percent, they say.
That said, I regret to say that the team looks to be headed for laughingstocksville under Cam's leadership. And ya know, I won't feel sad when the Dolphins lose because they deserve to lose with a coach like Cam.
YES! Cam has a lot of explainin' to do!!! I expect that you will make him explain.
He's a back-up. Obviously his knee is a problem, but nobody seems to mention his horrific decision making in the games he played as a dolphin (not to mention his games with the Vikes before his knee injury). He's been on the way out for a while. The knee injury probably saved him from being flat out benched in Minnesota.
I think that Culpepper's biggest problem was not just the knee but that he let the knee injury and the bad season he had prior to the injury get to his head. He is still an amazing physical specimen with a cannon for an arm, but he will have a very tough time blending the physical and mental parts of his game. As long as he continues to think of himself as a starter, there will be too much pressure on him to perform at the high level rather than bringing himself back gradually to the place where he was before (league co-MVP). He needs a patient coach who will teach him. For all of my fellow Dolphin fans - realize that we have what we have. Even though C-Pep didn't work out, for so many reasons, Cam and Randy are trying something new, which was badly needed. The same-old stuff under Satan wasn't getting it done. I am still willing to give them the benefit of the doubt until the 1st half of the season is over.
I think if Daunte gets fully healthy he's a starter in the league. If his knees never cooperate again with the rest of his body then yeah he'll be a shell of his old self. But a healthy Daunte still can be a very good starting QB. He's going to adjust to not having the same mobility he used to have.
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Thanks for the info, Armando.
>>>Obviously his knee is a problem, but nobody seems to mention his horrific decision making in the games he played as a dolphin (not to mention his games with the Vikes before his knee injury).<<<
Exactly! Culpepper's last effective season was 2004. Does anyone really think that even if he becomes healthy enough to play in a game that he can also regain something he hasn't had in three years? That's a long time away from the game. I pity the fans of the team that signs him if they pin any hope on his providing any kind of salvation.
It takes 2+ years for that type of injury to heal. If Daunte gets back in a Scott Linehan style offense he will go back to being one of the top 3 quarterbacks in the league.
41-wins & 49-loses... What else needs to be said. Passing stats are great but it is the "W" column that defines a QB.
Culpepper is not a winner even with Randy Moss. He had one winning season and then choked in the playoffs. This is the reason I was dumbfounded when the Dolphins picked him up. When the game or the season was on the line the guy did not carry the team. The only caveat I will give him is I think Mike Tice was one of the worst coaches in NFL history.
Regardless, Like Michael Vick having all that skill, QB is the most cerebral position in all of sports. It takes much more than the ability to throw the ball 80 yards or run a 4.3 forty. It's takes split second decision making and the ability to read a defense. Culpepper doesn't have it and it's not something you can teach an old dog.
He will probably land a job and maybe even start, but he will never win a SB so I have no regrets about him being gone. Good riddance I say.
DC is gone. That story was published a few days back. This is not a story to me, even if he does make a full recovery and produces elsewhere. There isn't a time machine which would allow us to go back and make another decision. Every team adds and releases players. Are we going to hear about DC FOREVER? I have nothing against him, but I will bet if he doesn't produce elsewhere the media will barely mention it. I don't want to hear about DC in a Dolphins' column again because, well, he's no longer a Dolphin. And we can all second guess the decision makers on this team until we either start losing or winning. So, can't we wait until then? I mean, really, let's just say we're winning 4 months from now, are you going to write a column indicating that getting rid of DC was a good thing? I doubt I'd want to read it anyway. The DC experiment failed, so what. We tried. He tried. He's gone. Let's move on. I like watching football. I like management teams when they make changes after things haven't worked out. Didn't give DC a full chance? He wanted to play before he was fully healed. He wasn't patient enough. He got hurt again. We've got a possible young stud who we want to learn from a QB who studies defenses and knows how to make split second reads. DC is a better fit somewhere else. If he produces somewhere else it means the system and receivers also fit him. What's the big freaking issue here? There's no drama, well, unless, of course, we keep writing about it. NYJeff
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"EVERYONE knows people who write homophobic things on message boards are actually gay themselves." - DanComesOutInLace
No, you're mixed up sweetie.
EVERYONE knows that people who RESPOND to homophobic things on message boards are actually gay themselves.
And besides, we're all trying to talk about how much of an interest we all have in the Daunte Culpepper situation since he is NO LONGER A MIAMI DOLPHIN. And since we are all MIAMI DOLPHIN FANS and and really are only interested in the state of the CURRENT MIAMI DOLPHINS TEAM and the upcoming season, why wouldn't we be interested in an EX-MIAMI DOLPHIN who raped the salary cap and contributed ZERO to the team?!
What's wrong with you anyway (besides being queer)? Can't you understand how important Culpepper is to this team? WE MUST KNOW WHY HE WAS LET GO DARN IT!!! And Armando it just the hard-nosed investigative reporter to find out why!!! He even asked us all what questions he should ask Cameron. We're not worthy!!!
Last year was lousy for us fans, but it had to be worse for Daunte. Whoever's fault it was (team's or his own), he definitely came back before he was ready. Miami should never have signed him if he was still damaged goods unless they were going to wait him out, like the Yankees did with Jon Lieber a few years ago (when Lieber was ready he was a strong pitcher down the stretch). I don't see Culpepper coming all the way back, but I wish him well wherever he moves on to (unless it's Buffalo or the Jets).
Hey Youranidiot: I didn't ask anyone what questions to ask. I think I have managed OK on my own for many years now, thanks.
I did ask if you people, supposedly Dolphins fans, wanted me to pick at the Daunte scab or simply let it go. That's called a courtesy.
And for the record, the answer from YOU was to pick at the scab and ask the questions, which I will.
Meanwhile, thanks for being a loyal reader of this blog.
MANDO! Problem solved. You don't have to ask the question because Cam said (today 7/20) "Daunte was never 100%, it's hard to evaluate a guy who can't practice". There's reason #1 why they let him go. "Right away after we talked to Daunte and alerted him that he would not be the QB we had a discussion and said we want to work together (for a trade). That process started and there was an option for a trade until things fell through for different reasons." OKAY EVERYONE. Is everyone happy now? They didn't even know when he was going to be able to practice at full speed so how can you evaluate him as your trying to put your roster together? They also talked to C-pep and agreed they would try to trade him but it fell through so they released him. Can we get on with our lives now people? If you are still upset you can wait to see where C-pep ends up and then become a fan of that team since you are so loyal to him. Turn the page please.
Let me guess. There will be a bunch of people saying that Cam is lieing. Daunte would never do that (lie) to us. We dont trust our head coach but we trust the guy who was involved in the "love boat" scandal. We trust the guy who acted like he was 100% and lied about it so he could play only to scream at the coach on the sideline (in front of the whole team) after he was pulled. We trust the guy who told our head coach that he wouldn't talk to him through the media and the very next day after making that promise went out and did exactly that. Please tell me you guys are smarter than that.
“I didn't ask anyone what questions to ask. I think I have managed OK on my own for many years now, thanks.” – Armando 7/20
“Now here's the question to you, the fans of YOUR Miami Dolphins: Are you still curious about what really happened? Do you want to know why Cameron wouldn't allow a competition between Culpepper and Trent Green? Do you care why Cameron told Culpepper he would not be with the Dolphins much longer in front of the entire team -- a move Culpepper has told me embarrassed him?
If you still care about these issues, let me know, and I will pursue them when Cameron next makes himself available to the press.” – Armando 7/18
Translation: Should I (Armando) ask Cameron what really happened? Should I (Armando) ask Cameron why he wouldn’t allow a competition between Culpepper and Green? Should I (Armando) ask Cameron why he told Culpepper he would not be with the team much longer in front of the entire team – a move that embarrassed Culpepper (Poor Daunte. I’ll bet he cried all over his millions!)? And finally…If you tell me to, I’ll ask Cameron about these issues when he is next available.
In other words: What questions do you want me to ask?
“I did ask if you people, supposedly Dolphins fans, wanted me to pick at the Daunte scab or simply let it go. That's called a courtesy.” – Armando 7/20
We ARE fans. I think most of us are just sick and tired of “you people” (the media) always harping on the negative aspects of the players and the sport. You, along with most local writers have lost any objectivity you may have had and are constantly looking at the Dolphins glass as being half-empty.
And for the record, the answer from YOU was to pick at the scab and ask the questions, which I will.
Not from me! And you aren’t very good at math as you said. 34 posts said no, 29 said yes and 16 were non-commital. But as I said earlier, a big part of your job is to twist things to make them as you want them to be (like the vote). If you want to ask then ask. Don’t put it off as “The fans want to know” and that you’re doing us some kind of favor or “courtesy.” Please.
Culpepper is history and the Dolphins are a much better off without him. MOVE ON!
nyscott, I agree with you 100%! It is time to move on from Culpepper. It turns out he was never truly healthy. People, let's do the smart thing and move on. There is no sense in whining and crying about how "Culpepper should've had a chance.", and about how "Culpepper was never treated fairly." None of that matters now, when are some of you going to understand that??? Let's move on and support the team that we have now. C'mon now, I'm ready for some 2007 Miami Dolphins football!!! How about you?
nyscott, others of your ilk,
if you want a weasel as the head coach of the dolphins, you got him. but most rational thinking people would find it naive to believe the words coming out of weaselhead's mouth --- simply, mr. cam ain't being forthright but being a shifty pol. tell us, cam, why you did not give daunte a chance to be evaluated. tell us, cam, why you never intended to keep daunte once your baby trent became available. tell us, cam, why you made such an irresponsible and classless move that flies in the face of all your bullsheet rhetoric over the past months about competition, working hard, etc, etc.
i prefer to knock down weasels and move on to a new coach who will lead the dolphins to victory with class, integrity and dignity.
His career is over.
Culpepper knows it better than anyone else.
Thats why he needed all this drama, so that he could use it as a way to distract any new suitors.
Wont work though.
To think he expected the Fins to pay him that contract and give him an opportunity to start!?
What a joke.
I just hope all you critics and CAM haters, and you know who you are, have the jewels to name yourselves and admit you totally wrong about this coaching staff.
And apologize to CAM for being idiots and disloyal.
"Rational thinking people"
What a joke.
Definition of classless:
So called fans who constantly trash a coach before actually seeing him coach,so they can pretend they khow something about football.
YouAreAnIdiot:
No matter what you write, EVERYONE still knows you're gay.
To Eli, Others of my "ilk" (way to rip off PTI) are Dolphins fans. This means we are fans of the franchise and NOT fans of individual players who come and go from year to year. No individual is ever bigger than the MIAMI DOLPHINS. The Dolphins will be here forever and players will come and go. Try being a fan of the team and then maybe you will find out what loyalty is all about. PS I will answer all of the questions (for Cam)that you asked in my next post.
Eli, you asked "Why not give Daunte a chance to be evaluated"? Because you can not evaluate a player that is still recovering from a MAJOR knee injury. How does Cam know he is still recovering? BECAUSE DAUNTE TOLD THEM HE IS NOT 100% AND HE IS STILL RE-HABBING. You asked why he never intended on keeping Daunte. Because he is STILL RECOVERING FROM A MAJOR KNEE INJURY. You asked why he would make an irresponsible and classless move that is opposite of the competition and work ethic ideals he's been preaching. This falls into what I said about you being a fan of an individual and not caring about the good of the franchise. So what you're saying is that Cam should have never got Trent to begin with. Yes you are saying that because any smart football fan would know that you can't have two QBS on a team making close to 5 million a piece. 10 million dollars would take up roughly 1/5 of cap space. So in my next post I will explain to you how "irresponsible" it would have been for Cam to not grab Trent and keep Daunte.
Eli, so we left off at you wanted no part of Trent and felt Daunte was the man for the job. There could be NO open competition because at the end of it you would have a backup standing on the sideline with a headphone being payed 5 million to carry a clipboard. If you don't get Trent and HOPE Daunte will be ready for training camp you are taking a huge risk and being irresponsible. I can not understand where all of this loyalty to Daunte is coming from. If he is so great why isn't every team jumping at the chance to sign him? Please tell us. Also,please tell us why the few teams that have interest in him are only interested in him being a back up? THEY HAVEN'T EVALUATED HIM EITHER! But they still don't want him as a starter! So basically you hate Cam Cameron and he hasn't even coached his first game yet. Some might call that irresponsible and classless thinking. You call Cam irresponsible for trying to get something in return for a guy who did nothing and cost OUR DOLPHINS millions of dollars? You call Cam classless eventhough he told Daunte right to his face that they were trying to trade him? I call you clueless. You're supposed to be a Dolphins fan Eli,,,,wake up.
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the dolphins are the most cursed organization in sports post 1973...culpepper will probably go somewhere and tear it up like damon huard and so will joey harrington. joey porter, ted ginn, and trent green are all going to be out for the year with injuries and brady quinn is going to be rookie of the year. oh and zach and jt will keep doing there thing and this piss ant organization will never allow them to get to a super bowl.
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