Still unanswered questions after Culpepper drama
Daunte Culpepper's departure from Miami Tuesday was as misbegotten as his arrival.
Remember his arrival some 15 months ago? The Dolphins signed him and then, amid all the excitement of the signature acquisition, refused to introduce him to the fans in a press conference because Nick Saban didn't like celebrating the arrival of new talent?
That press conference finally came several weeks later, after Culpepper had circumvented the team policy by doing a one-on-one interview with Andrea Kremer, but the chance for a strong start to what promised to be a defining relationship was missed.
Well, on Tuesday the Dolphins ended that relationship and the break was as frayed and flawed as that initial union. It came in a one sentence announcement from the team. Fact is the NFL Players Association put out more information on the cutting of Culpepper than the Dolphins did.
Which leads me to this: Remember the back and forth jousting new coach Cam Cameron had with the media about Culpepper during several of the summer minicamps? Cameron was asked, I would estimate, three dozen questions about Culpepper during those camps and dodged just about every one of them.
A sample from June 9:
(On Daunte Culpepper saying that the Dolphins prohibited him from working in team drills yesterday) - “When this thing is resolved, ask me that question and I’ll tell you the truth of what the truth is. Now is not the time to tell you why and what took place. It will make perfect sense at that time. That’s a good question, but I can’t answer the question right now just because the negotiations are going on.”
(On Culpepper saying that he was told in front of the team that he couldn’t partake in team drills) – “Mark these down, because I want to be able to answer them both. I can elaborate on that, but cannot elaborate on that until this thing is done, and I’ll tell you exactly what took place.”
(On if it is a distraction) – “If you let it, it would be. To me, it’s not. It is if you let it be one. It depends on the kind of team you are and what kind of leadership you have in your locker room.”
(On if it is ironic that he says it is not a distraction, but that every question has been about Daunte Culpepper) – “That’s ok. That’s your job and that’s my job. It’s your job to ask those questions and it’s my job to answer them. Then it’s my job to go right out that door, where it’s about getting better, it’s focusing on what we’re trying to do and, at the same time, be respectful. You just deal with it.”
(On if has any reaction to people who think the Dolphins should free Daunte Culpepper) – “It just doesn’t work that way. It doesn’t work that way. We are working with him. You just can’t do that. It’s not quite that easy. “
(On how the team balances getting what it wants and keeping order) – “I understand why it doesn’t make sense to you and it will make sense to you when I can give you the real part of it. Okay?”
(On why there could not be a competition between Trent Green and Daunte Culpepper) – “We’ll address that at the same time.”
(On Culpepper saying he won't agree to a trade) "It's just a process you go through. I understand all the questions. I understand them all. There is not one I don’t understand, but I know the whole story and I am going to be very respectful of the player. I will tell you what I said I would tell you, but I can’t do that at this point.”
Well, Cameron now can explain why he didn't want Culpepper to compete with Trent Green. He can tell you why the team let Culpepper go on the field that fateful day in June only to keep him out of drills. He can set the record straight on whether Culpepper is 100 percent or not (of course he's not) and if not, how did the team get away with cutting an injured player without a settlement.
As Ricky would tell Lucy, "You got a lot of splainin' to do."
But when the team made this decision Monday night and Tuesday morning, it decided you, its fans, deserved even though Cameron promised one way back when.
Now here's the question to you, the fans of YOUR Miami Dolphins: Are you still curious about what really happened? Do you want to know why Cameron wouldn't allow a competition between Culpepper and Trent Green? Do you care why Cameron told Culpepper he would not be with the Dolphins much longer in front of the entire team -- a move Culpepper has told me embarrassed him?
If you still care about these issues, let me know, and I will pursue them when Cameron next makes himself available to the press. If you don't care, if you just rather turn the page, ugly as it was, and hope the new day is a better, say so.
It will be interesting to me how the majority of you guys feel.
Remember his arrival some 15 months ago? The Dolphins signed him and then, amid all the excitement of the signature acquisition, refused to introduce him to the fans in a press conference because Nick Saban didn't like celebrating the arrival of new talent?
That press conference finally came several weeks later, after Culpepper had circumvented the team policy by doing a one-on-one interview with Andrea Kremer, but the chance for a strong start to what promised to be a defining relationship was missed.
Well, on Tuesday the Dolphins ended that relationship and the break was as frayed and flawed as that initial union. It came in a one sentence announcement from the team. Fact is the NFL Players Association put out more information on the cutting of Culpepper than the Dolphins did.
Which leads me to this: Remember the back and forth jousting new coach Cam Cameron had with the media about Culpepper during several of the summer minicamps? Cameron was asked, I would estimate, three dozen questions about Culpepper during those camps and dodged just about every one of them.
A sample from June 9:
(On Daunte Culpepper saying that the Dolphins prohibited him from working in team drills yesterday) - “When this thing is resolved, ask me that question and I’ll tell you the truth of what the truth is. Now is not the time to tell you why and what took place. It will make perfect sense at that time. That’s a good question, but I can’t answer the question right now just because the negotiations are going on.”
(On Culpepper saying that he was told in front of the team that he couldn’t partake in team drills) – “Mark these down, because I want to be able to answer them both. I can elaborate on that, but cannot elaborate on that until this thing is done, and I’ll tell you exactly what took place.”
(On if it is a distraction) – “If you let it, it would be. To me, it’s not. It is if you let it be one. It depends on the kind of team you are and what kind of leadership you have in your locker room.”
(On if it is ironic that he says it is not a distraction, but that every question has been about Daunte Culpepper) – “That’s ok. That’s your job and that’s my job. It’s your job to ask those questions and it’s my job to answer them. Then it’s my job to go right out that door, where it’s about getting better, it’s focusing on what we’re trying to do and, at the same time, be respectful. You just deal with it.”
(On if has any reaction to people who think the Dolphins should free Daunte Culpepper) – “It just doesn’t work that way. It doesn’t work that way. We are working with him. You just can’t do that. It’s not quite that easy. “
(On how the team balances getting what it wants and keeping order) – “I understand why it doesn’t make sense to you and it will make sense to you when I can give you the real part of it. Okay?”
(On why there could not be a competition between Trent Green and Daunte Culpepper) – “We’ll address that at the same time.”
(On Culpepper saying he won't agree to a trade) "It's just a process you go through. I understand all the questions. I understand them all. There is not one I don’t understand, but I know the whole story and I am going to be very respectful of the player. I will tell you what I said I would tell you, but I can’t do that at this point.”
Well, Cameron now can explain why he didn't want Culpepper to compete with Trent Green. He can tell you why the team let Culpepper go on the field that fateful day in June only to keep him out of drills. He can set the record straight on whether Culpepper is 100 percent or not (of course he's not) and if not, how did the team get away with cutting an injured player without a settlement.
As Ricky would tell Lucy, "You got a lot of splainin' to do."
But when the team made this decision Monday night and Tuesday morning, it decided you, its fans, deserved even though Cameron promised one way back when.
Now here's the question to you, the fans of YOUR Miami Dolphins: Are you still curious about what really happened? Do you want to know why Cameron wouldn't allow a competition between Culpepper and Trent Green? Do you care why Cameron told Culpepper he would not be with the Dolphins much longer in front of the entire team -- a move Culpepper has told me embarrassed him?
If you still care about these issues, let me know, and I will pursue them when Cameron next makes himself available to the press. If you don't care, if you just rather turn the page, ugly as it was, and hope the new day is a better, say so.
It will be interesting to me how the majority of you guys feel.
91 Comments:
First off, I am very happy that Daunte Culpepper is no longer on the team. Finally, both the media and fans can concentrate on the stories that TRULY matter in training camp. Culpepper was a colossal failure in Miami,and was the biggest mistake of the Saban Era. I did not want Culpepper from the beginning, he is simply an athlete that tries to play quarterback.
As far as finding out the truth from Coach Cameron, I don't really need to hear it. Honestly, I'm pretty sure I already know what he is going to say. The man simply didn't fit his offensive system. Daunte Culpepper has never been nor ever will be a "read and react" quarterback. Ever since high school, Daunte's physical skills has been the main reason he's gotten to this level, so he's never really bothered to learn how to read a defense properly. Now, that the biggest part of Culpepper's game is gone, he'll be nothing more than a backup the rest of his career.
I'm sick and tired of Culpepper, it's time to close the book on the Daunte Culpepper and move on.
I really do not care to hear about it either. Its time to move on. We have a good defense and a smart quaterback, who may not lose as many games as previous qb's with mental errors. DC is not Cams QB, its his team to coach, and he can do what he likes.
I don't need to hear any explanation either. He's gone, it's business and we move on.
It's fairly clear that the Phins didn't think Daunte was physically ready. And if you take that and have him try to learn a new system at the same time it's going to end in failure.
He's too expensive to keep as a gimpy backup, so of course the Dolphins would get rid of him.
Trent knows the offense, and is healthy NOW. He gives us the best chance to win, so why a competition was needed was beyond me.
So no, don't both asking Coach why, we fans understand it, and frankly we don't care at this point.
It doesn't hurt to ask. Especially now with nothing else happening. If Cam ducks the question then just move on, but I'm curious.
You Dolphin punks make me laugh. You got no balls, just like your football team.
They lie to you, they don't tell you what's going on, you don't mind. You are all sheep. BAAAAAA.
Have fun in the AFC East cellar again this year.
>>>He can set the record straight on whether Culpepper is 100 percent or not (of course he's not)<<<
Well, there's your question--for Culpepper, not Cameron. Culpepper insists that he's healthy now. No one seems to believe him, and there's no visual evidence of it. It's just like the start of last season, when Culpepper insisted that he was healthy and ready to go--yet now claims that the team rushed him back then.
Armando,
I was excited when the Fins first got Culpepper and I am dissapointed that he did not work out and he will be remembered with AJ Feeley as a waste of a 2nd round pick. I would like to know why Cam gave no chance to someone who threw for 39 TDs only a few years ago. Thanks
Of course we want an answer! After having been lied to so often by little nicky (not Adam Sandler), we would like to believe in something again, and that's not going to happen without some tough answers.
Mando:
Really, what's to be 'curious' about? Of course he's not going to publicly trash him but the team's actions speak volumes about what they thought of his health, his short and long term recovery and his leadership. They wanted to groom a young QB and didn't feel Daunte was the guy to do it. Time to move on. Thank God this happened before camp.
Is it possible for you to post a positive article? Are you so dense not to know ALL of the answers to those questions? All of you media people gave Saban every benefit of the doubt, but seem to want to question everything Cam does. I'm about ready to stop reading anything that comes out of Miami.
Let's hear it.
I would rather have the truth from Cam about not fitting his system than some of the other 'non-truths' from a previous coach.
Ask him....
Do it....
Do it....
He'll Probably avoid it until the end... It seems a little Saben-esk if you ask me...
Nope, I have no interest in why all of this happened. I am just glad this soap opera, sponsored by Nick Saban, is over.
It would be interesting to know the reasons but if it's going to cause more problems and continue this difficult situation into training camp and the season, what's the point?
We know that Culpepper is an improvising QB and Cameron wants a system guy so Culpepper had to go.
Yes it was badly handled but it's probably best to look forward to the season rather than poison it by looking back. It's likely going to be a tough enough year without holding over problems from the off-season.
I would like to know WHY!!! But since we know we'll be lied to once again what's the point, Cam is the coach and is going to do what he likes!! I voted on the survey and it seems that there are alot of folks out there who feel at least he should've been given a chance to compete!!!
Now before the flood gates open for the Duante haters let me ask this, if Trent Green is SO much better why not have him beat DC in the preseason competition??? Also would it not be nice to have a little insurance just in case Trent goes down again??
Please ask, Armando. I think I already know the answers -- that Daunte is not the kind of QB for Cameron's system, that he's not healthy enough to play to his former strengths and that he isn't the type of leader Cameron wants. I think I know these things, but I'd be interested in hearing what comes out of Cameron's mouth. Maybe we'd all learn something we didn't know, about Daunte or about Mr. Cameron himself. Because Cam invited you to ask later ... and now I want to learn whether he is willing to be accountable to what he promised earlier. Ask Armando, ask!
Your animosity towards Cameron is distorting your objectivity. Just about everything you've written about the Dolphins since Cam became the coach has been of the negative variety. I don't know what Cameron did to you that made you so angry, but your attacks on him and the Dolphins just makes you look childish and put you on the same level as LeBatard(although you'll probably take that as a compliment, it is meant as the worst possible of insults).
Whatever your issues are, you need to get over yourself and start reporting again and stop creating issues where there are none.
Aquiring DC was a huge mistake.
He was speeding downhill long before the injury to his knee.
I don't see how Cam and company
could have dealt with it any
differently.
If Cam thinks DC is a poor fit in his offense what's he supposed to do? Whats the point in letting him compete if you think he's a poor fit?
"Now before the flood gates open for the Duante haters let me ask this, if Trent Green is SO much better why not have him beat DC in the preseason competition??? Also would it not be nice to have a little insurance just in case Trent goes down again??"
Here's the answer to your question jdizzle. It's simple Coach Cameron does not want a quarterback controversy, and have people taking sides in the locker room. That's what would've happened if Daunte would've stayed. Having that kind of situation in your locker room is not good for your team, and it makes a first year head coach's job, even tougher.
Also, the Miami Dolphins needed to know who their starting quarterback was going to be from Day One of training camp. With Trent Green firmly behind center, the Miami offense will have no questions as to who their leader will be. Knowing who the starter is from Day One allows the offense to get comfortable with one guy, instead of learning how two guys operate. Plus, the learning curve is much easier.
Plus, Daunte was owed $5.5 mil this season and you combine that with Trent's salary it's going to put the team back into salary cap hell. We have an insurance policy in Cleo Lemon. Lemon knows Cameron's system from his time in San Diego. Quite frankly, I feel more comfortable with two QB's that know the system, versus having one QB that knows the system and another QB that "kinda sorta knows the system."
Daunte Culpepper is no longer a Miami Dolphin. Accept it for what it is, because the situation isn't changing anytime soon.
Armando,
While I agree with a few of the bloggers that asking these questions may be fruitless. I can't help but feel that as a reporter you have a responsibility to do so. I think that Coach Cam has an obligation to respond in one way or the other. I can't justify giving him a pass on this when he has clearly implied that he would be willing to be accountable for his actions at the time at some future date. Now, realistically I do not believe that we will hear a true version of what the situation was at the time the statements were made. Rather, I think we will get a watered down account. One that positions the team to look like the victor in their dealings with Daunte as they have unfolded (hindsight is 20/20). That is why I applaude you for asking the questions back then. They show how sensitive the situation really was for the team. It is in those reponses that the truh is found not in the upcoming reponses.
John Micheals
Good points buddy, I guess your right, I just have to get over it and move on !!! But Armando should still ask the qeustion since Cam insisted he would answer in due time!!!
i would love to know the truth... and after reading another writer saying he was "Negative leadership" and this supposedly came from within the organization and taken with the way daunte left the vikings i would venture to say daunte was no angel in all this... so bring on the real juice... inquiring minds want to know :)
I am extremely relieved that I do not have to watch Daunte flail around the pocket again this year. Watching Daunte play last year gave me that same uncomfortable feeling I get when I'm watching an episode of The Office and Micheal says or does something REALLY stupid.
I don't need an explanation from Cameron, thanks.
I would like to hear a better explanation for the term "negative leadership?"
It seems to me there was something in Culpepper that Cameron just did not like and that is what he didn't want to say because if he did it would kill any trade value The team might have had. Now that he is gone I think it might be interesting to see why because it will give us insight into the way Cameron thinks...
As curious as I may be about the whole Campepper ordeal, I would rather Cam would not expound too much on it, it may cost him even more respect from the remaining players.
Besides the answers are obvious and nobody likes someone who asks questions they already know the answer to.
Player-Agents make coaches uncomfortable, they only want to hear concern for the team from a player not its all about me which is the role of an agent, clearly in Minesota the coach couldnt separate the two from his mind.
Cam felt Daunte wasn't a good fit for his style of offense and he wasn't convinced the knee would ever be normal.
Not letting him work in team drills was just to (reasonably) lower risk of reinjuring the knee making Miami responsible for a big settlement.
Wanting to try to get something for a Quarterback with Daunte's potential makes sense, however after Daunte the agent made it clear he wasn't going to restructure his contract, he should have let him go then.
I wish both Daunte and Cam the best and hope its a good season for both.
I WOULD STILL LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THOSE QUESTIONS WERE AND WHY BOTH SIDES HAD ALL THIS SECRECY...ñOO...DEPIN@@
You Dolphin punks make me laugh. You got no balls, just like your football team.
They lie to you, they don't tell you what's going on, you don't mind. You are all sheep. BAAAAAA.
Have fun in the AFC East cellar again this year.
Meanwhile your coach corners the market on salted meats and cured pigs feet.
Oink Oink Oink Mangina.
This is the bottom line. Be quick to fire and slow to hire. IF this principle would have been in effect in Miami, we would have Drew Brees (for nothing) and who knows if Saban would still be here. The facts are, if you are a fan, support the new coach, until he gives you a reason to doubt him. The DC and Nick era are over, and if that era had to happen to bring us to the restored glory of the past....I am ok with it! I agree with the other writers, the tone towards Cam is just way to negative. Did he not kiss your A## when he came to town? Grow up and start reporting. We would like answers such as what the hell is Miami going to do with Jason Allen on that money we gave him for being a first round pick? How are we getting better on the O-line. This isn't a soap opera, we aren't women, (except that jets fan, whose reading dolphan blogs????)get us real football facts that we can apply to our football knowledge of the 2007 dolphins!
Who gives a crap, because that's exactly what Culpepper was: a piece of crap. Move on with the future and get off the past.
What I really want to know is why has no one questioned the intelligence of the Nick Saban/Randy Mueller tandem picking DB Jason Allen over LT Marcus McNeil considering the fact that O-Line was much more suspect than the secondary at the time. Please put more focus on the Front Office's questionable Scouting Division, because I sure figured that a 6'7'' LT who had a first round grade was much more of a sure thing than a DB that had a disclocated hip. (And yes I know there were questions about McNeil's back, but since he came into the league we've heard nothing of it)If both had medical question marks, why not go with the stud LT?!
jetsfan john: Get a life. I know the only news this offseason for the Jets was Manvagina showing up in the Soprano's. Go read the Pat's blog, they where the only team this season who did anything in the AFC East. All you New Yorkers talk trash about the Dolphins, talk trash about the State of Florida and then you all move here. I guess that should be a complement, but I would rather you just stay in the North East and continue the cycle of incest Liberal Thinking. If enough of you continue to move down here, and vote in both states during the general elections, please have your two Senators resign, as the two Senators from Florida can do a better job representing both States. Sorry for the U-Turn from Football.
The Dolphins are still a franchise that can't seem to get out of it's own way. How many high pics have we just wasted the last 5 years? No wonder we haven't sniffed the playoffs in forever. I offer the following list of huge trades that led to nothing but cost high pics: AJ Feeley (2nd), Lamar Gordon (3rd), Dante Culpepper (2nd), and Ricky Williams (1st, 1st-though he did offer 2.5 seasons of excellent productivity but still not worth 2 ones).
Once again, we whiff on QB pics: last year we chose Dante over Drew Brees(QB of #1 offense), this year John Beck over Brady Quinn(will play out over many years but Brady definately has had better coaching).
Now we focus on re-tooling an offense with Yoda at QB, an underacheiver at RB, a .06 Boozer as star receiver, and a guy who couldn't nab 1000 yards at FSU as third down back. Are we really going in the right direction?
Like him or not, we didn't give Pep a legit chance to be good. He wasn't healthy all last season and we forced/allowed him to play too soon. Of course we was gonna stink. You would too if you threw off one foot all season long. And now, after promising him and ourselves that we'd give Pep the chance to rehab and then give it a real go, we just cut him loose. Look at it this way, we wasted a 2nd round pic to rehab a guy for some other team and then just gave him away for free because we think the 900 year old headless horseman will be better. Makes you wonder huh?
I think a clarification would be good for the fans and the players. The media covering the team hasn't made it a point of emphasis, but here and there there have been inferences that Culpepper doesn't like to study game film and is not a student of the game. Thus he can't be good at reading defences. Thus even if he regains his mobility, he is bound to be fooled by today's complex and sophisticated NFL defences, meaning he will likely be throwing into coverage and consequently he will probably be picked off at crucial times of the game. I think most people can accept that a QB in today's NFL simply has to be a student of the game to keep up with the opposing defences. If that is the book on Culpepper, that he is not a student of the game and relies too much on physical ability, then I think most players and fans can accept that. If that is the case, then an open competition was probably not necessary and coach should come out and say so. That would clear the air and the criticism and second guessing could be put to rest.
armondo,
i would like to know why are a culpepper apoligist? you have defended this guy all along. i like alot of your blogs but your culpepper blogs make me want to puke. get eith the program dude he sucked and he's gone.
The only reason these so called 'fans' want to know these silly questions is so they can dissect the answers and trash the new coach some more.
It is obvious that Cam wanted to go in adefferent direction from the begining.
What the hell is the sense of getting into the reasons DC was released.
HE'S RELEASED!!!
Thats about all anybody needs to know. The rest is static.
GO FINS'07
Armando this blog should have never been written. If you thought about it for one second you would have come up with the answer. NO, DO NOT DISTRACT THE TEAM OR THE COACH WITH RIDICULOUS QUESTIONS. We know you're not a fan and that's cool but please don't make it harder on our coach than it has to be. Please let him concentrate on the players who are on this team so we can win some games this year. Daunte is gone and the questions should go with him. Guy who trashed NY,,,F U! I'm from NY and have been a Dolphin fan since I could throw a football. I have been sticking up for them to moron Jets fans my whole life. Besides, most people in NY are Giants or Bills fans. Trust me no one cares about the Jets up here. The incest comment was way out of line.
OK, as I tally the total so far, 14 respondants want me to ask Cameron the questions.
There are 11 respondants that want to move on and have me not ask. I'll let this go a little while longer to get a bigger pool of opinions.
Meanwhile, you guys crack me up. I post a blog asking YOU what YOU want me to do about questions and somebody says I'm being negative and hate Cam Cameron. Think about the utter stupidity of that.
Another guy says I obviously am an apologist for Culpepper ... except that I was the first to report Culpepper was out the door and later blogged about the reasons it makes sense. Can you please look at the past blogs to know when the ground your standing on is really shakey?
Finally, I can't believe only a couple of you responded to the Jets fan. Weak.
Armando... I definitly want to know the whole story behind this thing. The fans deserve a much better explanation than those lame blah blah answers Cam originally gave. I will admit I definitly wish the new fins regime at least gave Pep a look in training camp, at least a look.
Please ask. The Dolphins' management is a joke. They hide and then lie. They're worse than the Bush Administration. Actually, I think the War in Iraq has been managed better than the Dolphins in the last few years. About the Jets, who cares?
Why ask the question when you already know the answer. It was in the overall best interest of the team to let him go. Now they should have done it sooner, as thinking they were going to get any value for him was silly. The coach works for the owner, and answers to him, not the fans, or reporters who feel they are entitled to answers. It's a business; get over yourselves. The guy made $8 million bucks last year. He'll be okay. The biggest irony in all of this is that now the assertion is that Daunte was forced back into action too soon. From what I saw and read, that couldn't be further from the truth. That was Daunte's doing. The only thing Miami's coaching staff did wrong, was to listen to him.
No more questions. Lets move on and focus on the W/L record.
We need answers. He should have been given the opportunity to compete for a job.
If this is about wins and losses then fans need to know why Culpepper did not get the chance to make the team successful. He was supposed to, at least, be given the chance to succeed. I want to know why. We had the chance to bring in Brees (whose won wherever he went), but went with C-pep instead. I want to know why.
This entire fiasco makes no sense. The Chiefs sucker us into trading for a player they were going to cut, (Trent Green). We publicly tell our QB he is no longer in our future and expect some team to be as dumb as we were and make a trade with us for a player we are going to cut. I never understand the stupidity in the teams that actually do that. Wouldn't the smart thing be to have let the two QB's battle it out for the position. Or at minimum not publicly make it known that you no longer want the guy and lose any trade value. It's obvious there was favoritism going here. Cameron obviously wanted his own guy. It's his right, but it looks like he was scared the competition might not go the way he wanted. I'm sure Atlanta will be in the market for a QB now. Dolphins just continue to make terrible decisions. I hope it works out and even if it does it was still not handled right. Obviously some of the Dolphins players don't agree with how Cameron handled it.
Ask the first two questions, forget the others.
The next few questions he answered. Then you say,”Well, Cameron now can explain why he didn't want Culpepper to compete with Trent Green. He can tell you why the team let Culpepper go on the field that fateful day in June only to keep him out of drills. He can set the record straight on whether Culpepper is 100 percent or not (of course he's not) and if not, how did the team get away with cutting an injured player without a settlement.”
You say, “of course he’s not.” If Culpepper claims he’s 100% and his physician says he is who are you to claim differently?
The rest of the questions can be answered by common sense. If you think about it, this is what Cam could have said if his hands had not been tied:
{In order to best serve the team, we would like to get some compensation for Culpepper. He is under contract with us and part of our discussion with him is trying to get him to seek a new team that he will reconstruct his contract with. This gives him the choice of team and us some compensation. Since he has said he won’t do that, it makes it very difficult for me to comment. If I tell you the reasons why we prefer Green to Culpepper, don’t you think it would be embarrassing for him? Secondly, why would I mention any shortcomings and possibly reduce his trade value for us? The other thing is if we already know we don’t want him, why risk an injury and having to pay his salary?}
let it go. no real fan gives a rats behind. just the drama queens. go watch paris hilton instead if that's what you people are after.
Armando...are you serious? Why on Earth would you ask these people what to do? I've been reading these posts for about a year now, and I'm convinced that most of them couldn't find their a**es with both hands. You're a reporter, aren't you? Report.
Yeah, I'd really like to know.
For a moment, we had 2 good QBs after not having 1 for about 10 years.
The 2 could have done alot for the team's future. Now we've thrown Dante & his value in the trash. I love Green, but he's an old QB un a sub-.500 team.
Where does that leave us. with a poor Offense & an old Defense.
Bottomline: We screwed for years to come by this decision & several similar decisions over the last 5 years.
Mark my words .... we will be drafting HIGH. Why! Why! Why!
Cheers, JerryD Hope I'm wrong!!
I think a really interesting question would be to ask JT or Zack about what the team feels about the treatment of Daunte. Of course, they will now have to be P.C. about their answers but previously, both Dolphin stars/ team leaders gave their strong support for Daunte. When they talk, I listen. I don't listen to the word-smithing of yet another NFL coach -- they don't ever really answer any questions honestly. Lots of spin. Let's find out the truth from Zack and JT. Daunte's teammates saw him in action and really liked what they saw.
I definitely want to know what was going on.
Cameron said he would answer the questions, bottom line. Hold him accountable. We need to know what kind of coach he is based on his response, not only based on his reasoning.
Sorry, Armando, but I (and quite a few others, I believe) have tried very hard to filter out the negativity spewing from new yorkers in general and jets fans in particular. Responding to the likes of this one diseased individual only encourages him to further disrupt the discussion. By bringing up his rant, you make him believe he has done something special. Ignore him, ask the questions because it is your job. It truly doesn't matter how many people want the answers, just that some do.
WE WANT ANSWERS,WE WANT ANSWERS,WE WANT ANSWERS,WE WANT ANSWERS,WE WANT ANSWERS,WE WANT ANSWERS,WE WANT ANSWERS!!!!!!!
I want an answer from Cameron just to see if he handles it like a man or like a weasel.
I'm not concerned about the decision at all - it was probably a good one. But I've already heard some things about Cameron that make me worry about whether he is a true leader or if his players will resent his style. Being a great coach is not all about X's and O's. What would Shula do?
I just got back from New York. I drove up there and beat JetsFan John's ass. He lives with his mom. Ironically, "BAAAAAA" was the sound she made when I bent her over the kitchen table.
don't need answeres and don't care. and yes you are an apoligist.
I'd like to hear the truth.
I WOULD be curious to know why Cameron handled the situation the way he did! However, as a Dolphins fan, I wouldn't want this issue to drag very far into training camp or season.
If you can find something out, GREAT! If not, he is no longer with the team and we should move forward!
You need to ask to keep Cam accountable. He said on several occasions that he would share the information when the time was appropriate. You need to hold him to his word so we avoid another tricky nicky environment. Besides, Cam is new to media relations and probably could use some on-the-job training.
I would like to know the answers. I've been waiting patiently to hear them.
"...somebody says I'm being negative and hate Cam Cameron. Think about the utter stupidity of that." - Armando
Not once did I say you "hate" Cameron. But that is what you do isn't it? You know, twist things around, take quotes out of context, put your own spin on issues to make it fit your idea of how you want it to be. No wonder most athletes have a negative view of the press.
I did say you are negative when it comes to Cameron. Everything you write about him has a negative tone if not outright negative statements. Why don't YOU go back and re-read some of your own stuff and tell me I'm wrong. You obviously have an issue with him and seem to be taking it out on him and the Dolphins here. What did he do anyway? Dismiss one of your silly questions and not give you the anwer you wanted? Poor boy!
As far as "utter stupidity" and "weak" go, I guess you would be considered an expert since 99% of what you write falls under those categories.
And as far as what questions YOU should ask Cameron, isn't that something YOU should decide since YOU work at the Herald and YOU decide what drivel YOU are going to write about.
Weak, very weak.
Yes, I would like to know the answers and I would also like to know if Cameron completes his promise and not just engaging in delay tactics.
this situation couldn't have been handled any worse if they tried.....a complete mess. we all DESERVE the answers that cameron promised us. FORCE him to keep his word on this one.....we already know he didnt keep his word about waiting to evaluate culpepper until he was 100%.
he better have some good answers.
while you're at it, ask him why they held culpepper for so long, when the entire free world knew that he had zero trade value.
NO, leave it alone.
No one really cares to go any further into this. Nick Saban era leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth - Daunte was a classic Nick Saban stab at talent that really wasn't there anymore. Daunte is never going to be the cerebral quarterback that Cam needs in his system. His QB's (Brees,Rivers,Green, etc.) are all "Read" type QB's. Drop this subject and lets move on!
For the baaaaaaaaaaaa Jets fan I have this to say. Chad Pennington will get hurt (what a surprise),the Jets will suck, Eric Mangini will suck, your cry baby fans suck, All OF YOUR PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES SUCK, AND the phins will give you a "beat'n!"
Roberta, trying to bring the Bush Admin was a real stretch. You are a typical liberal idiot. Move to new york. As for Armanda, lady you have some serious issues. Start reporting, stop blogging and start reporting. You never once addressed the many fans who have asked you to find out the facts of our team. We could care less about what has happened, we want to know what is going to happen. The only legit question that a blogger has asked, is what the current team leaders think of the DC move and how it was handled. But again, you aren't going to get a straight answer, because of team division and stuff like that. start earning your money, quit looking to idiot bloggers for your next original thought and start reporting.
Does everyone realize that Cam Cameron is NOT Nick Saban? From reading these blogs it seems like people are taking out the anger they had for Saban on Cam. "We want Answers!" For what exactly? What will everyone get out of the answer. If I were Cam I would simply say,,, 'I didn't like him as a leader and he didn't fit well in our offensive system. I came in here and installed a brand new offensive playbook and I don't trust Daunte to run it. I didn't pick him, Saban did and he has done nothing for this franchise since he has been here'. Everyone loves Daunte so much even though he proved that his injury will be a hinderance to him for the rest of his career. If Cam kept him and he sucked you would all be whining,,,'Why didn't Cam trade him waaaaaa he sucks waaaaaa,,Cams an idiot waaaa. Shut up already and let the season play out before you judge the man. Do you all realize ,that if the Dolphins do better this year, Cam will have succeeded and you will all look like morons? Shut up with the whining because you are embarrassing the rest of the fan base.
"YOU DOLPHIN PUNKS MAKE ME LAUGH, You are all sheep." Hey Jets fan! We've been laughing at you for years along with the rest of the sporting world. We're all sheep? Your owner is sooo cheap he had to ask the state of NY TO BUILD A STADIUM USING OUR TAX MONEY. Guess what, the state voted no because no one cares about the Jets! LOL! BAAAAAAA! There's tons of room on Long Island but the city said NO. Baaaaaaaa. Your team has to play in someone elses stadium. Baaaaaa. When you buy your tickets they say Giants stadium on them. Baaaaa. When you walk into the meadowlands it says,in GIANT letters, GIANTS STADIUM. Baaaaaaa. You're team has been to one superbowl yet you still give them your hard earned money. Baaaaaa. Your mascot is a 5 foot tall fireman who has to sit on someones shoulders to see the game! ROFLMAO!!!
I can't understand, why so many of you "demand answers." Do we really need this issue with Culpepper to linger any further than it already has? I don't want to focus on Culpepper anymore. I want the focus to be on the stories that matter come training camp time. Culpepper is gone. C'mon guys, do the right thing and let's all move on from this.
Why make fun of the JETS fan when YouAreAnIdiot is an easy target. First learn how to spell and second go find another team to cheer for!!!
Do it KNOW???? How about NOW!!
I agree, leave it alone and stop treating Cameron like he's Saban. Cameron has done nothing to be treated like he's the former head coach/traitor. Let sleeping dogs lay. Culpepper is gone and a has been.
It's about as obvious as it can be.1) Cam wanted to jettison Saban's QB. 2) Cam was not going to let DC get hurt and have to pay him. 3) Why would Cam tell the media his plans. Good Luck Daunte! Can we move on here?!
"Why make fun of the JETS fan when YouAreAnIdiot is an easy target. First learn how to spell and second go find another team to cheer for!!!
Do it KNOW???? How about NOW!!" - Bobbie the Pipe Smoker
Hey Bobbie girl!! What the hell are you talking about??? "Do it KNOW???" I suggest you re-read (if you can)the posts dip-s**t!!
You Jet fans make me sick. I would tell you to go root for another team as well, but since you're already a Jet fan, there is no lesser team you could root for.
BTW, You're an F'ing idiot!
Armando,
Please, please investigate the situation further. I want to know what Mueller and Cameron's reasoning has been for many of these offseason moves and the only way to do that is to follow up on those questions.
I think the posters above are tired of the "feel sorry for Culpepper" articles. This is a business, he's getting paid, and everyone is out for themselves. That comes with the territory. The interesting questions are those that get us into the heads of the personnel decision makers on the Dolphins.
In my opinion, we traded an above average, although flawed and injured, QB for a "system-QB" with potential for a scary injury. These kinds of things happen when you change HCs and therefore change offensive philosophies. Is Cameron a system-offense kind of guy? If so, then I don't necessarily have a problem with the change. What I do have a problem with is giving up a 4th or 5th rounder for Green simply to get him into training camp earlier (we could have gotten him for free with a little more patience) and then releasing Culpepper (who should have more value than Green) and receiving NOTHING in return for him. These two QBs were in the EXACT same situation. Mueller & Cameron need to be critized for this.
Does Cameron plan on creating a system-offense ala Denver and KC? Is Green merely a filler while Beck is groomed? Those questions and many more need to be answered.
YouAreAnIdiot needs to be a Raiders Fan.
Q. How did Bob break his leg at the golf course?
A. He fell off the ball washer!
youareanidiotisaturd. youareanidiotisaturd. youareanidiotisaturd.
That's three turds, time to get off the pot youareanidiot.
The only answers real fans should be seeking is
How many games can you win for us, Cam?
How far can you take us in playoffs, Cam?
All you girls that are demanding answers should go do your nails.
GO FINS 07
Anonymous @ 3:38 says, " What I do have a problem with is giving up a 4th or 5th rounder for Green simply to get him into training camp earlier (we could have gotten him for free with a little more patience) and then releasing Culpepper (who should have more value than Green) and receiving NOTHING in return for him. These two QBs were in the EXACT same situation. Mueller & Cameron need to be critized for this."
First, the situations were NOT exactly the same. Green said he would restructure his contract with a team he chose. Green did NOT refuse to allow KC to trade him as Daunte did. It was Green's posture in the matter that allowed KC to get some value for him. Daunte was vindictive because the Dolphins hurt his feelings and refused to allow a trade.
Secondly, having Green in camp is important. Everybody on the same page from day one. By being 'patient' Miami may have had to wait until the cut to 53 to get him for 'nothing'. That's the week before the first game, isn't it?
Culpepper showed nothing that indicates he is still not hampered by his knee injury. We won't know that until he suits up and plays for a new team DURING THE SEASON.
Mueller and Cameron don't need to be criticised for what happened. They have done at every turn what they believe is the best for the team. You think they are trying to sabotage themselves? Please.
"youareanidiotisaturd. youareanidiotisaturd. youareanidiotisaturd.
That's three Bobs, time to get off the pot youareanidiot." - Bob is a Pipe Smoker
Aaaaaahhhhhh!!!! You're right. Three Bobs in one sitting...That's more than even I can handle. And the smell....
Q. What do you call two gay "Bobs"?
A. Oral Roberts.
Whatever answers are found will undoubtedly make C-Pep look worse than Cam and Co.
In addition to the baggage that Culpepper brings as a player-agent, there's been a lot of rumor about his negative attitude towards all the things that Cameron holds dear when it comes to QBs.
And don't forget, Cam's speciality is QBs. If he thought DC was worth the 5.5 mil on the roster, he'd be there.
So go ahead, ask the questions. I have a feeling Cam will still hold back not because there's anything sinister, but because the only one who will look bad in all this is Culpepper.
And I have a feeling that Cam has too much class to outright tarnish his reputation a la Brad Childress.
Does it really matter? Lets close the books on this issue and get on with the present. I didn't care for the trade when they got him and I'm glad to see him gone. I really think he needs an attitude adjustment as much as a physical one. Lets go forward.
The totals are pretty much in, folks, and though I'm not great with numbers, I believe the majority wants the questions asked.
Thanks for the input.
Put his feet to the fire. I am tired of coaches thinking its acceptable to disregard their responsibility to the fans. He made a commitment, now make him live up to it, even if its just for principles sake.
hell yes I want to know why u give up D for nothing & if he,s healthy y not let him have a chance to win or loose the job just seems stupid to me.
As much as I love a good drama, I think it is imperative that Miami fans move on from the soap opera that Daunte Culpepper caused. You see, it's all about mind games. Daunte is trying to portray himself as a victim, as some kind of martyr. Hell, he even quoted Mahatma Gandhi. He's trying to garner sympathy from fans who simply don't know any better. To Daunte's credit, it has worked. Dare I say, it was an Oscar worthy performance. When in reality, at the end of the day it's just a business, and Daunte was on the business side of things.
Coach Cameron, has every right to choose the man he wants to be his quarterback. Daunte may not be good enough to read a pop warner defense, but he is one hell of an actor! A career in Hollywood, may be in the works for him soon. You Miami fans who support Daunte, are the victim of on of the greatest acting jobs I have seen in quite sometime. Miami fans it is time to forget about Daunte Culpepper. However, you will never EVER, forget the name of........ Goldust.
Sure, give us the dirt, it not for the sole reason of making Cameron hold true to his word. And I'm actually curious as to why
I'm amazed at how many people think this is no big deal. Just let Daunte go and move on, Daunte was a colossal mistake, why do we want to know any of the answers, WHY? Maybe because some of us care about the team. I sure as hell would like to know but I think like Armando, the answers are very clear. By far and away the most overlooked aspect of this is that THIS year should have been Daunte's breakout season for Miami. He should have never been rushed back last year, he should have had the entire year last season to fully recover, come into camp this year and then lead this team. If he ended up playing poorly then you could say ok it was a mistake but he was never even given that chance. Daunte worked incredibly hard to rehab and someone with that dedication deserves the chance to compete. With a botched draft, a still shaky o-line and an aging defense and very suspect secondary, hell yes I would like a lot of questions answered about the direction of this team. Say what you want about Saban but he knew QB was an issue and the secondary needed help. He drafted the wrong player but right position and how many of you can sit there and honestly say "of course I knew Brees would be the better player?" Not one of you at all.They both had big injuries and Miami went with Daunte. I agree with one blogger that said all of the Miami reporters cut Saban some slack for being vague in interviews so why knock Cam, good point but they should be and should have been grilling both. Daunte was treated horribly and it is humiliating for a person to be called out infront of coworkers and teammates and told you won't be back. He deserved so much better than that and I wish him the absolute best wherever he plays. There's a reason there were so many empty seats and Phins games this past year because you people don't seem to care.
Culpepper's career ended in Minnesota with that knee injury.
A desperate Nick Saban signed him hoping that wasnt the case, but he was wrong.
Thats why Saban left this mess in the next coaches lap.
I think the Fins turned the page on this back when they drafted Beck and signed Green.
I as a fan turned the page on this thing then as well.
Anyone who thinks its time to turn the page now is lost in the dark if u ask me.
bobby, let me tell you something. THIS IS NOT A BIG DEAL!!! The only reason it's a big deal is because all of the divas and drama queens such as yourself, are trying to make it one. I don't think it has anything to do with you caring for the team, but it has more to do with the fact that Coach Cameron sent your favorite quarterback packing and you still want to cry over something that's just not going to change!
Most fans that want to move on from the Culpepper issue do care about the TEAM. Culpepper is a guy who is no longer on the TEAM. He is no longer a Miami Dolphin, that's why we don't care about him anymore. We want to focus on the 2007 Miami Dolphins and forget about the past. The past is the past, and no matter how much whining you do, no matter how much crying you do, no matter how much complaining you do, IT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE A DAMN THING!!!
GET OVER IT PEOPLE! All the whining in the world won't bring back your beloved Culpepper. If you were true fans of the team, you would've moved on and put this whole saga behind you the minute they released him. I'm starting to think that a lot of you are fans of Culpepper rather than fans of the Miami Dolphins. So, for you Culpepper fans, who just can't seem to let go, when he joins another team, go buy his new teams jersey and join up with his new team. Because, if your allegiance is to Culpepper, then go follow Culpepper, because we don't need you here. The true fans are going to stay here, and get ready to rock and roll with the 2007 Miami Dolphins!
Culpepper is a dead issue. The Artist, has spoken.
For the previous blog.
I could not have said it better myself.
GO FINS!!!
THE QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED: HE ISN'T HEALTHY AND WILL NOT BE HEALTHY ANYMORE. DAUNTE IS FINISHED!
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