Chris Chambers is NOT on the trading block
I have been told by a highly placed Dolphins source that receiver Chris Chambers is NOT on the trading block as the NFL Network reported late Tuesday.
When I asked for confirmation on the story which was reported by usually reliable reporter Adam Schefter, my source refuted the story and asked a simple question: "Who would we play?"
Umm, good point.
So despite the report Miami's best receiver is on the block, don't buy it. But buy this: This is probably the last season Marty Booker and Chris Chambers play for the Miami Dolphins.
I have confirmed that Booker really was on the trade block earlier this summer and although Chambers is NOT on the block now, he could very well find himself there after this season.
The Dolphins have pretty much decided they want younger, faster, quicker, more explosive receivers and neither Chambers nor Booker fit that mold.
The Dolphins also are in a salary-cap bind with both in that Chambers has a $7 million cap charge next year to go along with a scheduled $5.1 million base salary. This while Booker will cost Miami $5.19 million against the cap to go along with a $4.3 million base salary.
That's over $9 million in base salary and over $12 million in cap charges for 2008.
It might be worth it if both players were in their prime AND were the type of receivers the Dolphins now value -- speedy, quick, able to score from anywhere on the field. That is not the case.
So this season will be the farewell tour for the stalwarts barring a salary adjustment (meaning a pay cut) for one or both in 2008.
Your thoughts?
When I asked for confirmation on the story which was reported by usually reliable reporter Adam Schefter, my source refuted the story and asked a simple question: "Who would we play?"
Umm, good point.
So despite the report Miami's best receiver is on the block, don't buy it. But buy this: This is probably the last season Marty Booker and Chris Chambers play for the Miami Dolphins.
I have confirmed that Booker really was on the trade block earlier this summer and although Chambers is NOT on the block now, he could very well find himself there after this season.
The Dolphins have pretty much decided they want younger, faster, quicker, more explosive receivers and neither Chambers nor Booker fit that mold.
The Dolphins also are in a salary-cap bind with both in that Chambers has a $7 million cap charge next year to go along with a scheduled $5.1 million base salary. This while Booker will cost Miami $5.19 million against the cap to go along with a $4.3 million base salary.
That's over $9 million in base salary and over $12 million in cap charges for 2008.
It might be worth it if both players were in their prime AND were the type of receivers the Dolphins now value -- speedy, quick, able to score from anywhere on the field. That is not the case.
So this season will be the farewell tour for the stalwarts barring a salary adjustment (meaning a pay cut) for one or both in 2008.
Your thoughts?
posted by Armando Salguero at 1:21 AM
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Trading Chambers prior to the season makes no sense to me unless a team is prepared to overpay and ponies up a 1st round pick (Remember a 1st rounder next year is worth a 2nd this year.......) Although if an awful team like the Raiders/Vikes want to trade a 2nd round pick that would be fine because it will be a high 2nd rounder.
But what I still am not quite sure of is why now? Yes, Chambers costs quite a bit against the cap this year but at this point does it really matter? There is nobody left to spend the money on.... Also it would seem to benefit the Dolphins to keep Chambers around this year because of his relationship with Ginn. Ginn has mentioned numerous times that Chambers has helped him. So if we are going to overpay for a 37 year old QB to mentor our 2nd round pick why wouldn't we overpay a WR to mentor our #1 pick?
Although I guess you can also figure that if Chambers is traded the Phins will be drafting in the top 2. Chambers is overrated but i'm really not sure how the offense would expect to put up points with the #1 being booker, the #2 being a pretty raw WR rookie, and the #3 Hagan with his stone hands
Booker was a desperate move and a terrible trade for the Phins. Chambers is a great receiver who has never had a chance to catch passes from a qb who had a strong enough arm to get him the ball!
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Yes it is time to dump these 2 high priced unproductive receivers. Hopefully get a high draft pick or an OL man. Booker is just average and Chambers had 1 good year. Seems like every game now Chambers is dropping passes.
Shawn you really need to stop listening to those damn conspiracy theory's. Those goons in the middle east do really want to kill you. How about you take a trip to Pakistan unguarded and get your head cut off.
great article - maybe a reason for shopping Chambers or Booker is confidence in the rookie class of receivers ? Perhaps keeping both PK Sam and Az olus the trade pick is the way to go ???
It's hard to believe that an inconsistent WR (Chambers) can pull in over $7 million. In reality he's like Hagan. Make some outlandish catch, then drop one right in his chest. But they don't have anyone to replace him this year. So next year seems plausible.
The only reason to get rid of one is if you had cap trouble or got an offer so good you couldn't turn it down. Right now neither one applies. I wouldn't be surprised if Booker is gone next year though.
This is another great move by the leaders of this sinking ship, these guys(Cam & Randy) can not get out of the way of bad decisions. Let's trade our # 1 reciever away. You have got to be kidding me, can somebody remind them this is not MADDEN "08". The only reason I can support this trade is to speed up the replacement process of both the head coach & GM.
ticked off Dol-fan
I support the trade if something can be gotten, example a draft pick. It might be better to let him excel this year where he would have more value and then make a trade.
You should always trade at their high point when they will soon be on the declining part of their skills.
Please ship Chambers away. He drops way too many passes. He does not deserve the money he is making. He is an average receiver who is making Terrel Owens money.
The myth of Chambers is like the myth of Dumbpepper. They compete to see which one will put more balls on the ground. The scouting on this guy coming out of college was that he had very good top speed, but not very fluid in the hips, with poor explosion and inconsistent hands. It's good to see that we have a coach and a GM that don't want dumb QBs and WRs that can't make big plays and can't consistently catch the ball.
And our best QB from last year, Joey Harrington, is really looking good in Atlanta, isn't he?
I've got to add another comment because of some of these posts. The Dolphins have been crappy for more than 5 years. Yet some want to blame Cameron and Mueller for changing the make up of the team. Why wouldn't they change this team? Would everyone be happy if they kept the same over rated players who couldn't win in the past? When you've been a loser you have to change. They don't want to get rid of Taylor or Thomas, because they play winning football, even if the Dolphins have been crappy. They want to get rid of the over rated and under achieving players and that all makes perfect sense to me.
It's about time!! Why have the Dolphins waited this long to realize that Chris Chambers is not worth what they are paying him? He would'nt even start for over half of the teams in the NFL,yet he is our premier receiver(go figure)! We are a team of so many sorry draft picks for many years,let's hope we are finally changing this trend!
I don't see how you can evaluate Chambers as a WR before you give him a quality QB. Look at the season he had with Frerotte throwing at him. I agree that he never reached his expectations (except that one season perhaps) but you've got to give the guy some help. Doesn't this fly in the face of Cam's expectation that this is a playoff team THIS year, Armando?
I am all for giving a GM and coach some time to prove or hang themselves, but I am not impressed at all with the decisions that have been made so far except that Capers was retained as DC.
WOW its funny how everyone is putting the blame on whoever Cam and Randy says they are thinking of releasing or trading!!! Chris isn't the problem. I agree he is being way overpaid, but why not redo his contract and give hime a pay cut!!! All you so called fans would let Cam and Randy dump the whole team and you guys would be all for it.........that's
BULL!@#$!!!
The guy can't throw the ball to himself!!! Name one TOP NFL rec. that doesn't have a decent QB, one that hasn't been changing QB's every other year!
If Cam wasn't so busy trying to get Trent to Miami we could've snagged some of the MANY good rec. the Pat's scooped up in the off season!!!
While I agree with you that Booker was a desperate move...only the most hardcore conspiracy theorists believe that 9/11 was an inside job. Go to http://www.911myths.com/ for an unbiased look at just about every area concerning the tragedy.
Let's get a consistently decent QB before we declare our WR's overrated. As for speed ... you don't often see Chambers caught from behind. I also have a hard time understanding people's issues with Marty Booker, the guy makes big catches and has the sizeto get the extra yard when needs it.
Ready to freak out? Check out these stats and guess who is worst receiver in the NFL with 50 or more catches. These numbers are difficult to discern, but the bottom line is they are based on bang for the buck. It is value derived from each catch based on yards, TDs, etc.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr.php
Thinking we can get even a 4th round pick for Chambers is unrealistic. He is absolutely the most over-rated WR in the NFL. Cameron knows this but must hold his cards close to the vest because he has to try to get the most value he can. Chambers will be gone. I am absolutely certain of it. Mueller will trade him this season if he can get anything better than a 4th.
You know - it gets more sad here all the time. Constantly we blame the QB, Ronnie Brown and now the WRs for our failure to make the playoffs when the real problem lies with the Offensive Line. Our line has been HORRIBLE for years. Each season, we blow it completely up and start over...and we've done it again this year. Then we point fingers at the backs getting pounded 3 yards deep and the QBs or WRs when they throw badly because they are heavily rushed.
Fix the OL, fix the team.
Excellent point Alpha! The OL is by far the weakest link in my opinion also. But I do believe Chambers is way overrated
I believe the cut is good... I also believe their should be a cap on what a plater can make. No one person is worth $5.1 million no matter how good he is. It would eliminate the hold outs as well if they knew this is all they will make. A cap of $500,000 a year is a lot of money for anyone, and if you cannot live on that, you have a lot of cocaine blowing up your nose. Don't forget the additional money these guys make on commercials, and other events they get.
Chambers and Booker have had neither a good QB to receive pass from, nor a good offensive coordinator, (except the 1st year of Saban with Linehan, the only 1000 yds season of chambers). So let's give to those guys a last chance before trade them. We overstimated the potential of Randy McMichael.... let's check if those guys are overrrated too.
Alpha got it right, the OL line has consistently been our weakest link. In regards to Chambers, he is not a consistent enough to be a clutch guy and demand that kind of $$. He's decent at best but it seems that he believes his own hype. To redeem himself, he should restructure his salary as a first step to gain every fan's respect.
I was actually quite disappointed to know that it was only rumors the possibility to trade Chambers. Let's be honest, he has always been overrated. Dropping passes is as common for him as it is for me to have breakfast: sometimes I don't.
The only good season he had, two years ago was the product of he being the only viable target in a season in which, after loosing the first games, the Dolphins had no other plan than passing and passing. Had Ricky been there, the closest Chambers would be to the Pro-Bowl would be the guest list of Thomas and Taylor.
He should be long gone.
As usual...a group of you continue to blame Cam and Randy for things they didn't control, but are trying to change. Did you ever think maybe they are firing one across Chris's bow so to speak? Maybe they are trying to send him a message...to start playing better or he's gone. Everything is based on value in this business, and right now...Chris and Marty are on shaky ground. Next year they are no longer a "value" and will be counting more against the cap then they've produced. As some of you said...Hagan is identical to Chris, but costs less. Who knows how Ginn and Hagan would do as starters!?! I honestly believe though...that they are trying to wake Chris up. Next season Booker will be gone. Chris will be asked to take a pay cut to stay, and we will probably draft another WR somewhere in the first day.
As for the O-line comments. I ALSO believe they had hoped Brown from Penn State would drop, and when the Cards took him...Cam/Randy went to plan B which was Ted. You don't fix the O-line by reaching. They drafted Satele and Mormino so they aren't ignoring it! You can't fix EVERYTHING in one year. We had a stellar draft IMO. Lay off the guys.
~JinVA
Chambers is not going anywhere at least not this season.I believe he will be traded in the offseason. I am looking for good things from him and hope last year was just a slump. If it was a slump like I think then that would raise his trade value in the off season.
P.S. I see the Ravens released Keydrick Vincent. We should be the first team in line trying to get this guy to our camp. Your thoughts?
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Armando, you came back strong. You make me proud to be a fellow pinguo.
I think we'll take the word of Adam Schefter on this one
I like Adam, but he relies on getting stuff about teams from OTHER teams. So it's not coming from the Dolphins, it's likely coming from the Jets which are in NY, which is where the NFL is headquartered.
Armando gets his info from the team he covers. I trust him more.
Chambers is not unproductive. You dont know talent. I would like to keep him. You dont remeber the amazing jump balls, routes, and catches he has produced. He will this be back at the top of the dolphins reception list have more than enough touchdowns and the talk will be about his new contract with the phins next year. He was thrown to about 40 percent less last year than the year before when he was a pro bowl selection. Get off his back, he has to reprove himself this year but I dont think that will be a problem with a good line and an effective run game. So relax on the next year and leave that to the coaches and organization. Im out of this piece. Signed The GinnChambers.
Chambers has definitely not lived up to his contract. He would be worth keeping if he took a pay cut or signed a new contract that was more performance based. Unfortunately most contracts don't have language that ties compensation to not dropping easy catches.
Chambers must know that he is on the outs. There is a small chance this will light a fire under him and get him to take the next step (i.e. not dropping the easy stuff) if for no other reason than to get him a better contract with his next team.
--funkyj
Rick said...
Please ship Chambers away. He drops way too many passes. He does not deserve the money he is making. He is an average receiver who is making Terrel Owens money.
Damn Rick your head is way up your ass. you complain about him dropping too many passes then say he is no terrell owens? if you followed football at all lat year then maybe you would realize that owens lead the LEAGUE in dropped passes last year. i would bet my house that chambers has a big year this year with a qb who actually knows how to throw the ball accurately. and all this talk about cameron wanting fast recievers, i agree that the booker man doesn't fill this role but chambers is definitely not a slow guy. all of you are gonna eat your own words with this as well as the brady quinn nonsense. back to rick, i can't decide what's more outrageously stupid your post of the stupid 9/11 inside job bullshit.
"or the stupid 9/11 post" not of.
Look, the offensive line has always been a big problem for this team. No question about it. However, I don't think that you can blame the O-Line for when a pass hits Chambers between the numbers and he simply drops it. You can't blame the O-Line everytime Chambers is well covered, and yet he still whines for a flag. Shouldn't we be holding Chambers accountable for his screwups, instead of pointing the finger elsewhere?
People, the excuse making for Chambers ended a long time ago. It's either put up or shut up. Chambers shouldn't be traded right away, he does deserve to have this season to prove himself to Coach Cameron. If the inconsistency continues, then it's time to bid farewell to Chris. If he does have another inconsistent 2007, I can only hope he has some good trade value left.
In some ways, I find it funny that Ted Ginn Jr, the guy Chambers lobbied so hard for, may be the reason his Dolphin days are numbered.
Chambers is just the new focus of Dolfan hatred for some reason. Every year there is a player or coach who is chosen, usually illogically, by the fans and the media as a "chronic underachiever" or "overrated" or "not worth his roster spot." That player is then put under a microscope and touted as all that is wrong with the team regardless of the facts of production. I guarantee that most of the passes recorded as drops for CC were not balls that hit him between the numbers. CC has a knack for getting to balls that other WR's can't even come close to thus they wouldn't get credited for a drop. The % of balls caught that were thrown to is not even a good indication because of the inconsistent OL and QB play most of the balls to CC were just chuck and duck type passes that didn't have a prayer of being caught. Does CC need to step up? Yes, is he a horrible WR? No.
He WOULD be on the trading block if we had a surefire replacement.
I won't say he's completely at fault, because of weak QB's and poor play on the line.
Chambers whole career has been based off the EXPECTED performance, which aside from 1 season has been marginal. (He has had ONE season over 1,000 yards receiving). He drops WAY too many passes that are in his hands - passes that a #1 receiver, a clutch receiver, and $7 million a year receiver should catch. Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to see him play at the level he's been touted at for so long for the team's sake, but I don't expect it. I honestly think that from what I'm seeing of Ted Ginn that he might already be a better 3rd down "go to" reciever (a clutch guy, not a slot receiver) than Chris already.
What a bunch of whiny bitches! Every receiver drops passes. Not every receiver can catch 15 balls for 238 yards in a single game against a division rival. Our receiving core would be awful without him.
Why is all of Miami's failures being placed on Chris?? You guys sound like a bunch of BANDWAGON jumpers!!!! THE GUY HASN"T HAD A GOOD QB!!!! He can't throw the ball to himself!!!! Until we see some consistency at the QB spot how can you fairly judge the guy, OH I forgot you guy just take whatever Cam and Randy say!!! And since when has Chris been considered SLOW!!! If they need to free some cap space they need to RELEASE Jason Allen!!!!!
Didn't we already trade our "best" wr ? Welker to the pats.. or does "catching" the ball not mean anything, anymore ??
let me see since marino we havent had a QB,RB we've had recievers but no QBS,then mistakes were made &purch cullpepper,got rid of the young QB,also $ was wasted on that so called coach!we need to rebuild a complete team!!!!
Chambers has 43 career receiving TDs, Welker has 1 career receiving TD. Calling Welker our best receiver is retarded.
j dizzle your an IDIOT if you were a real fan and followed our offseason moves you would know that we offered to pay Kelly Washington and Donte Stallworth more money than the patriots did. The only reason those WR's went to the Patriots is they wanted to play for a proven QB..... Hence Trent Green
what the hell does dropping easy catches every game have to do with not having a top-notch qb?the reality is throw out the one pro-bowl season(it wasn't even that great!)and you have an average wide-out,period!he simply hasn't been the same since taking that big hit a few years back!he's virtually useless anytime he's in a vulnerable position, he'll drop the ball almost everytime!i know they lack talent at the position,but if someone is willing to take that contract for even a 2nd rounder i say they have yo go for it!
"If they need to free some cap space they need to RELEASE Jason Allen!!!!!"
Um yeah... release Jason Allen and watch the Dolphins cap number shoot through the roof. My guess is if the Phins cut Allen then they would go over the cap this year (I'm not sure what it is but its a guess). Why is that? Because Jason Allen was given a huge bonus that gets spread out over the life of his contract (I believe its 5 years). If the Phins cut Allen then the Bonus money that is spread out over the last 4 years will count on the cap this year (something along those lines. I know when you cut a player matters and I believe June is the most cap friendly time to cut a player). Not to mention its just a stupid move. As bleak as the Allen situation has looked you don't cut a #1 overall pick after 1 year.
The bonus money is exactly why the Falcons couldn't even cut Vick today if they wanted to. If they did the cap hit they would take would put them over so its not even an option until they win their grievance.
As for Chambers: He drops far too many passes. I remember reading an article about him after his pro-bowl season. The game film was analyzed and based on his drops they figured that he left about 300 yards on the field. Thats about 1/4 of the total yardage he gained in the season. Yes Chambers hasn't had the best QBs throwing to him but he also hasn't really helped those QBs with all those drops. 60 catch seasons are nothing to go nuts about. Travis Taylor managed 57 on an awful Minnesota team last year and I wouldn't want him on my team. Just by being a starter you are going to catch passes.
Also: In Chambers Pro Bowl year he only went over 100 yards 3 times.
First off I must say excellent discussion today with lots of intelligent opinions on both sides of the debate. I gotta say I definitely lean towards Chambers being on the overrated side. A poor mans Randy Moss. For every spectacular play, there are the drops, the plays taken off, and the unwillingness to sacrifice his body to make the tough catch or block downfield. I remember opening game against the Texans a few years back where a slant was underthrown, the DB broke towards the ball, and Chambers seeing he was not going to catch it just stopped instead of trying to break-up the INT or tackle the defender. Chambers has gotten by on amazing natural ability but does seem lacking the heart and desire to take it to the next level.
It does blow me away however that Booker is making almost as much money as Chambers. Almost 5 million for a possession receiver?!? Wow wouldnt Crash Jensen still love to be playing in this league. I mean Booker is a big strong target who doesnt suffer from the dropsies, but I think he is the statue in the statue of liberty play. Quarters end before he makes it downfield. Simply amazing. I also doubt at there salaries and lack of production that many teams would be interested in trading for either guy, though the Vikes or Titans could be desperate enough for Chambers. However Schefter is a excellent reporter and he had to get the story from somewhere so there has to be some truth to it. I think I agree with some people who have suggested that Cam himself might have started this to give Chambers a wake-up call after the craptastic performance in the third preseason game. From what I have seen of Camerons methods and tactics so far this definitely seems in the realm of possibility.
Thank you john123 for answering my question on how much of a hit cutting Jason Allen would be to the salary cap. So as I figured he will end up being this years best paid cheerleader. Hope he shaves his legs at least. The NFL really needs a new collective bargaining agreement. Salary cap hits and the way things are done now is almost ludicrious.
To the person who mentioned Keydrick Vincent of the Ravens that is a phenomenal idea. He would be an upgrade over Mormino or Liwienski at this point. We need all the proven starting depth we can get. Plus he is around 28 so he might have a few good years left in him. Hopefully Cam and Mueller are looking into this.
Finally Armando, I cant believe ESPNs Hashmarks went with the Sun-Sentinel and Harvey Fialkov?!? instead of you too dispute the Chambers story. Come on, your the Dolphin insider, I cannot believe you got shown up like that. Let more than your blog readers know whats going on with the Fins. Whats happened with this team the last few years is embaressing enough. I dont think I can live with a guy named Harvey being the face of Dolfin news.
Right about now, I imagine the Patriots must be kicking themselves..They gave a 2nd & 5th to Miami for Welker when they probably could have gotten Chambers for the same or less? On any given Sunday, Brady + Moss + Chambers trumps Brady + Moss + Welker.
Let's give Green + Chambers + Ginn a look-see.
Jason Allen Signed a six-year contract. The deal includes $7.8 million guaranteed and can be worth $24-30 million depending on escalators. 2007: $660,000 (+ $4.6 million option bonus), 2008: $985,000, 2009: $1.31 million, 2010: $1.27 million, 2011: Free Agent. The contract stipulates that if the Dolphins release Allen, who incurred hip injuries during his time at Tennessee, at any point due to a recurrence of the injury, the team is off the hook for his guaranteed money.
Reading this also explains another reason why Allen would not be on the chopping block just yet.
First obviously you have the 7.8 million guaranteed (ESPN reported 9) which is probably spread out over the life of the contract for cap reasons. So my guess is they would take a cap hit of around 5/6th of the guaranteed money. So you would have the cap hit.
Second his base salary for 2007 is only 660,000k which is relatively cheap. The Bonus money has already been paid and unless he pulls a pacman/vick there is nothing the phins can do to get that money back. Its simply not worth cutting someone who has 1st round talent after one year to save 660k. Now in 08, 09, 010 when his salary starts going up and some of the bonus money has already been burned off it may be a different story.
Third: I have no idea what the escalators are but I imagine they are playing incentives and well unless he starts doing something on the field he will never see it.
Now on to the comment that the Booker trade was a desperate and terrible trade. I have to disagree. We got Booker and a 3rd round pick (Unfortunately we traded a 3rd rounder that year for Lamar Gordon, now that was a bad deal) for Ogunleye. Ogunleye was seeking a big pay day (that we weren't going to give him) and got it from the bears. 6 years, 33 million, 15 of it guaranteed. Since leaving the dolphins here are his numbers: 5 sacks, 10 sacks, and 6.5. Those numbers don't even come close to justifying his salary. In my opinion it was a lose/lose trade but at least in the Dolphins case it was a much cheaper loss.
maybe marty will not be here after the season is over but i think chris stands a good chance, especially if he has another pro-bowl worthy year
The dismantling of this receiving duo would be the last step for Coach Cameron's attempt to create a new, fresh identity for the Dolphins which, after years of mediocrity and missing the post-season, is refershing. Truly great receivers like Roy Williams and Joey Galloway still find a way to thrive without great QBs. The Dolphins will be ok with out Chambers and/or Booker. It's time to move on.
Anonymous said...
"The only reason those WR's went to the Patriots is they wanted to play for a proven QB..... Hence Trent Green"...yea i guess trent green has done nothing in his career. i guess nobody compares to brady whos won how many mvps and passing titles? no i guess it's only superbowls that count cause we all know it's only the quarterback that wins the superbowl and the other 53 or so players have nothing to do with it as well as the coaches. enough of you patriot fans on this blog go find a paper in new england that you can masturbate to with tom brady on the front page.
John123 said...
As bleak as the Allen situation has looked you don't cut a #1 overall pick after 1 year.
...and i'm pretty sure Mario Williams was the #1 overall pick last year and Allen was 16th overall.
Wow! Armando heard the news from an exclusive source. You are so damn cool! Guess what? Randy Mueller told the world the same thing on MiamiDolphins.com. Are you trying to pretend you're more important than you really are? I think so. Having someone tell you after you harass them is one thing, but someone coming up to you on their own power just seems extremely unlikely. There's better reporters to talk to in South Florida.
What's with the jealous guy posting at 3 a.m. while obviously drunk and sitting in a pool of his vomit?
Mando, you nevermind him. You're kicking butt. And the fact is you posted this about 12 hours before Randy Meullar said anything about the subject. So great job!
Hey lets just dump the whole team cause Cam and Randy said it would be best!!!! All of you are IDIOTS!!!!
So its OK to be an under achiever as long as you are drafted in the first round?!?!?!? Thats garbage, regardless of the cap hit Chambers is WAY more valuable to this team than that BUST Jason Allen!!!!!
Sometimes you have to cut your loses and take the hit!!!
I agree with Anonymous, regardless of the cap hit, the guy is GARBAGE!!!!!!
What you peolple are saying is crazy , basically your saying we're stuck with Jason Allen regardless of how he plays!!! He can just sit the bench and get that fat check, but when Daunte did it he's selfish a dumbass, we need to get rid of him..etc!!!
Let's go with Coach Cameron's ideas, folks...we haven't had any success at all to back anyone else.
The real story behind 9/11:
It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut.
Russell, it could be carried by an African swallow. Well, then again, African swallows are non-migratory. I have a thought, suppose two swallows carried it together?
Dx. Dolphan - Oh yeah, an African swallow, maybe, but not a European swallow. That's my point
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