Some thoughts following Miami's first loss
It is really ironic that the Dolphins first preseason loss would be the game I'd be most excited about as a Dolphins fan.
Sure they lost whatever to 28 but no one cares about that. What you really should care about is:
*The Dolphins offense created a terrible situation for itself in that on Miami's first possession Ronnie Brown let a reception get stolen out of his grasp by linebacker Cato June and turned into a Tampa touchdown. That was a moment of truth for this offense. And it responded beautifully.
Miami mounted an 18-play drive on the very next possession to score it's first touchdown this preseason with Trent Green at quarterback. And it was against Tampa's first-team defense.
"We had to decide what our character is going to be on offense and what our identity as a unit was going to be after that happened," Green said. "We responded."
"It builds confidence," Chris Chambers said.
So that was the shining moment of the preseason for the offense.
*The defense gave up some completions to Jeff Garcia but nothing to worry about except ... Travares Tillman, who was benched midway through last season, got a lot of playing time in the dime package for the Dolphins and he and cornerback Will Allen failed to communicate on a play that resulted in a 26-yard TD pass from Garcia to Joey Galloway.
Tillman is a solid special teams player, but one hopes the Dolphins see that in coverage, he's always around the ball but seemingly never makes the play.
*Matt Roth is having a fine preseason and his one-handed interception -- which led to Miami's second touchdown of the night -- means he's already made one more game-changing play this preseason than I can remember Kevin Carter making the last two years. One hopes Roth continues his ascendancy toward becoming a playmaker on D.
*The offensive line, particularly the starting unit, played pretty good as far as pass protection goes. The run blocking was atrocious, but Cam Cameron said after the game Miami wasn't trying to run the football. If failing to run the ball was a goal, then the Dolphins were successful in reaching the goal.
*I still see the right tackle situation as the most intriguing on the line. L.J. Shelton is still coming on, according to my sources, while Anthony Alabi is playing OK, but not great. Let's face it, the spot will be the chain's weak link this year.
*Receiver Derek Hagan had a shining moment in catching a 31-yard TD pass from John Beck in the second half. But he also had at least one notable drop, two if you're a really tough grader, and that inconsistency is one reason Ted Ginn Jr. has passed him in the two youngsters' search for playing time.
By the way, I wrote a column about Ginn following the game. Here it is: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football/story/215654.html
in case you're too cheap to buy the newspaper or live in Mongolia. Help a brotha out and read it if you care to know what's up with the first-round pick.
*Patrick Cobbs, who coaches like, hurt his cause by fumbling. Cameron HATES turnovers. He's preached ball security all preseason. The sermon didn't take with Cobbs in this one instance and that's tough for a player on the fringes of making the team.
Aaiight as Nick Saban says. Your thought?
Sure they lost whatever to 28 but no one cares about that. What you really should care about is:
*The Dolphins offense created a terrible situation for itself in that on Miami's first possession Ronnie Brown let a reception get stolen out of his grasp by linebacker Cato June and turned into a Tampa touchdown. That was a moment of truth for this offense. And it responded beautifully.
Miami mounted an 18-play drive on the very next possession to score it's first touchdown this preseason with Trent Green at quarterback. And it was against Tampa's first-team defense.
"We had to decide what our character is going to be on offense and what our identity as a unit was going to be after that happened," Green said. "We responded."
"It builds confidence," Chris Chambers said.
So that was the shining moment of the preseason for the offense.
*The defense gave up some completions to Jeff Garcia but nothing to worry about except ... Travares Tillman, who was benched midway through last season, got a lot of playing time in the dime package for the Dolphins and he and cornerback Will Allen failed to communicate on a play that resulted in a 26-yard TD pass from Garcia to Joey Galloway.
Tillman is a solid special teams player, but one hopes the Dolphins see that in coverage, he's always around the ball but seemingly never makes the play.
*Matt Roth is having a fine preseason and his one-handed interception -- which led to Miami's second touchdown of the night -- means he's already made one more game-changing play this preseason than I can remember Kevin Carter making the last two years. One hopes Roth continues his ascendancy toward becoming a playmaker on D.
*The offensive line, particularly the starting unit, played pretty good as far as pass protection goes. The run blocking was atrocious, but Cam Cameron said after the game Miami wasn't trying to run the football. If failing to run the ball was a goal, then the Dolphins were successful in reaching the goal.
*I still see the right tackle situation as the most intriguing on the line. L.J. Shelton is still coming on, according to my sources, while Anthony Alabi is playing OK, but not great. Let's face it, the spot will be the chain's weak link this year.
*Receiver Derek Hagan had a shining moment in catching a 31-yard TD pass from John Beck in the second half. But he also had at least one notable drop, two if you're a really tough grader, and that inconsistency is one reason Ted Ginn Jr. has passed him in the two youngsters' search for playing time.
By the way, I wrote a column about Ginn following the game. Here it is: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football/story/215654.html
in case you're too cheap to buy the newspaper or live in Mongolia. Help a brotha out and read it if you care to know what's up with the first-round pick.
*Patrick Cobbs, who coaches like, hurt his cause by fumbling. Cameron HATES turnovers. He's preached ball security all preseason. The sermon didn't take with Cobbs in this one instance and that's tough for a player on the fringes of making the team.
Aaiight as Nick Saban says. Your thought?
posted by Armando Salguero at 1:19 AM
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One other thought: John Beck threw for 2 TDs -- 59 yds and 31 yds -- and 162 total yards, in case anyone besides me is interested.
I must admit that I was also impressed by how the Dolphins played tonight. They had a long scoring drive that ate the clock and resulted in seven points. I think the amount of times that happened all of last season can be counted on one maybe two hands. All three of the QB's looked sharp tonight. While Green isnt putting up gaudy statistics you can see his leadership, veteran savvy, and ability not to make costly mistakes just like Armando said. I agree that the turnover was totally Browns fault. As for Beck I am also very excited about his prospects but still feel he should stay on the bench until we are out of the playoffs. At that point bring him in and see what he can do. I will bring up C-Pep and the fact that he has looked good the last two games but I still feel he will fumble more snaps and have more INTs than Green which Cam wants to avoid at all costs. So I am totally comfortable with the way things have turned out as long as he doesnt beat us when we play Oakland.
As for Ginn I am willing to eat the massive amounts of crow coming my way if he starts the season as the #3 receiver. He didnt break any tonight but he did make the tough catches and most impressively held onto the ball when he took the big hit. As for Hagan he does get good seperation but we already have Chambers to drop passes (which Chambers did drop one he should have caught). Hagan should have caught at least one of the two drops and had this problem last year as well.
The line play was far from good but not as atrocious as I thought it might be. Without getting Kendall I think it is imperative we keep Shelton and start him. He might underachieve but at this point is better than Alabi. Still, Hadnot got blown up a few times and Satele got pushed back on the goal line give to the FB. Carrey however has performed much better than I expected at LT, but overall the OL is still the weakness of the team. It was sad to see Cobb fumble as I was hoping he would make the team. Maybe he will get a chance to redeem himself in the final preseason game.
The defense played decent especially considering the starters were only out there for a few minutes. Roth continues to look like the stud many of us predicted he would be and if he keeps it up could end up being way more important than Porter in allowing JT to have another huge year. As for Tillman I have said it repeatedly on this blog, that he is one of the worst safeties in this league. He never makes a play and always gives up the big one. If Cam is smart he will find a place on the bench for Tillman right next to Jason Allen and never let either of those bums make it on the field.
Overall, I was impressed and am slightly more optimistic about the season even though I still think the fins have a ways to go before they are in Pats territory. Still the Bills D and OL are shaky, the Jets cant stop the run and the OL might be worse than the fins so you never know. It should be an interesting year go Fins!
a edswood that is a good comment entry.i agree with everything you wrote.
By the way, I wrote a column about Ginn following the game. It should be on the website if you are ***too cheap to buy the damn newspaper or live in Mongolia.*** Help a brotha out and read it if you care to know what's up with the first-round pick.
Personally I think this is pretty shitty to write. I have been a Dolphin fan since I was 12. I am currently 41 and married to someone in the military which takes me away from my homestate of FL, WHERE I DID BUY a paper...however now that we are in CO this is the only way I can read my paper and what you said is pretty crappy Armando and my husband and I do not appreciate the comment at all!
Lighten up, surely it was not aimed at YOU but at the people actually able to purchase a paper.
Hey Slush, get over your damn self. I served in the military and fought in Panama in the 1980s. We kicked butt but we had a sense of humor about things.
Armando was just kidding around and no one else in this world would take offense to what he wrote. So get off your sensitive horse and join the rest of us in society who know humor when they read it.
Armando, please ban Slush from the blog as you don't need any psycho-sensitive females on here.
Get a grip, lady. And your whipped husband, too. He should spank your ass so it won't be so tight.
Damn, lady. Get a grip, that comment wasn't aimed at you. It must be that time of the month for you. Anyways, I was really impressed by John Beck and Ted Ginn. It was good too see Trent Green pull the offense together after that INT for a TD on the first drive. Green showed us why Cameron brought him in here. Leadership, savvy, poise, and a calm influence in the huddle.
Matt Roth looks poised for a big season. The freak has been unleashed. Has anybody been impressed with Vernon Carey as I have? He's been getting better with every game, and he's really stepping up to the challenge. GO DOLPHINS!!!
I enjoy a generally good column, BUT DO NOT APPRECIATE THE CHEAP SHOT: I do not take the newspaper because I'm too cheap-but because my eye sight isn't now up to the small newsprint font! I live in B-BCH, not Mongolia. Also, can we lose the Jr. from TG? I'm 75 and don't recall "Sr"!
When I see a play like that one on the first play of the game it makes me feel like we still have the same crapy team we had for the last five years(too many time I have seen it)BUT then hope comes rising again....Like very much the trasformation of this team under the coach...GO PHINS 10-6record
So this bitch uses the word "shitty" in her post but she's offended when someone says buy the newspaper?
Some people simply need to get laid more often. Armando, I thought pointing out that you feel better about the Dolphins after this game than the previous two, despite the fact it was a loss, speaks to what preseason has come to mean.
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Hey badger old-timer, I have no idea what you said, and that is my point. You make no sense.
You sound upset but I'm not sure if that is about something you read on here or because you can't find your teeth today.
And slurpee, you need to stop. You're giving us women a bad name.
FLUSH slush
nobody is too cheap to buy a newspaper. that's not even funny armando. you're the man, so shouldn't you realize that in 2007 i don't wanna have to move my ass out of my house to purchase a newspaper. and then get all of that ink on my hands for no reason. i could just read your wonderful articles on my beautiful piece of technology.
TED GINN'S FAMILY FOR RIGHT TACKLE
Green hung Brown out to dry with that pass. He's lucky Cato June didn't decapitate him with a hit. Green deserves some blame for the TO. I can't believe that we're entertaining the idea of giving Chatman the starting job. And no, scoring on a trick play in the pre-season does not make me think Jesse Chatman can be a starting RB in the NFL.
Come on people this is a blog to discuss the fins not to berate Armando or to get your panties in a bunch. Armando wrote that at 1 am and on this informal blog not one of his columns. Besides I am to cheap to buy a newspaper. I can use that money to get a sweet delicious frosty. Seriously Armando it is 2007. Newspapers are so nineteenth century. Besides when I read you on the throne now Armando I dont get a Mr. Hanky all over your nice picture. But I do wipe my ass with Tavares Tillman trading cards. They flush real nice.
Edswood you are right on point.
How about that Statue of Liberty play in the first half? I was sitting in section 164 and saw it up close. It was amazing and we got really fired up after that play. We also were impressed with Beck's play in the second half, although we wanted to see something more from him at the very end of the game with < 2:00 and no timeouts.
I am military stationed in Tampa and was fortunate to get to hang with some season ticket holders in the lower sideline seats. I am glad that I have been able to read the Herald online all this time.
Larry
GO PHINS
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Whoops I meant 146 not 164
I feel PK SAM out played Hagan and Chambers. Caught everthing thrown to him in heavy traffic on the TD.
Caught the ball between three defenders.
Chris (Drops) Chambers great separation perfect position and drops a the pass in his hands.
He must learn to catch or bench him for PK.Sam that proved himself in Europe.
Bye the way he had a Hamstring injury two.
Now Hagan. Looked Great on one and terrible Chris Chambers like on two plays.
I would like to see Sutton and Malone get some playing time.
I feel Chris Chambers had one good year. Makes the circus catch and drops the easy one. Who can figure. Does he need contacts?
The running backs all look good and I see some REAL Speed in Ray Perkins another local. Cobbs is a bowling ball as is the whole running crew except for Booker.
The Brown-Chatman-Mauia-Booker combination is fun food for thought. All are good for getting more out of nothing except Brown.
He needs a hole.
BECK vs Quinn No comparison. Beck is a master of dropping a perfect pass deep into out reached hands and a quick release. Reminds me of Brady. Needs seasoning.
Defense secondary was weak but two Nose tackles and No Traylor will expose that till they get better or find a trade. Maybe Chambers for two DBs. I Think Booker and PK.SAM are just as good and Ginn is a player of 1 round status and proved that last night. NO DROPS and big hits.
Chambers NO HIT and drops easy catches.
Malone and Sutton looked good in practice. Get rid of the last of the bad examples of offense
Hagan must hold on to the ball. No wonder Wes Welker was the best reciever last year.
Clovus
My cautious optimism just got a bit more bold. You can see that good work has been done in a short period of time. Now, we don't want to get too optimistic, as these guys need time to improve and some holes need filing - either through development or through trade/acquisition.
I am cautiously optimistic after watching the game. The offense look the best we have seen but we should keep in mind that we went for it on 4th down during the 18 play drive. We would not have done that during the regular season and the result would have been a punt.
To point it out again, Beck has a knack for making things happen. That pass to Sam was threaded perfectly between 3 defenders who were left grasping for air as PK went for the score. Granted the starting corner or safety may have been that one step faster and broken up the play, but man that was sweet.
It also looked like Ronnie is getting the message. I only saw one play where he did the little hop, skip and jump and he ran like the bruising back he has the potential to be. I do kind of question the statue-of-liberty play simply because maybe we should have saved it for the real games but perhaps the intention was to give the DCs around the league something to think about.
Roth is really coming on nicely but Jason Allen is looking more and more like another 1st round bust. Ginn definitely made some strides and with Hagen and Chambers dropping passes as we have come to expect, Ginn has the chance to make an impact.
It was also really nice to finally get a look at Lorenzo Booker. He's got some nice moves and great speed. With Ginn and Booker we could see the pace of this offense get a little quicker. If Cameron can burn the safeties when they cheat up and force defenses to play honest things will open up.
I still refuse to get too excited. We (the fans) been burned too many times the last 5 years.
Damn, I am excited! Let the real games begin!
Its almost sad to read this nonsense. We score one TD and suddenly all is good. If we win the next preseason game, I fully expect there will be "fans" proclaiming we are going to the Super Bowl. In any case, because Dolfans for the most part have their heads up their butts and know little about anything outside of Miami, this is what is being said by folks outside of Miami...
Thank You Miami
Thank you for being such jerks to Culpepper.
In his 3 preseason games with us he is 15/28 (53.6%) for 200 yards and 3 TDs, for a QB Rating of 112.2. He's only been sacked twice AND he's shown he has most of his mobility back, scrambling 7 times for 30 yards, or 4.3 YPC.
So where are you with your QB?
Trent Green is 17/33 (51.5%) for 143 yards, 1 TD, and 2 INTs, for a QB Rating of 47.9. He's been sacked at least 3 or 4 times, and possibly 5. He's scrambled once for 2 yards.
Have fun with your crusty old QB.
To be fair, not everyone is that knowledgeable out in California. Quite a few Raider fans parroted the sentiments of many of the morons here in Miami and proclaimed Culpepper nothing, washed up, and stupid before he signed with them. Now they are relishing in his ability to learn the West Coast Offense in three weeks, his great attitude and an arm that is better than all three Miami QB's combined while thanking Coach Cam for being an idiot and Dolfans for knowing nothing about talent.
Less than one game and already you morons think Beck is the savior, Cam is the greatest playcaller because of one trick play (it was fun), the offense is dynamic and exciting based on one long drive and a decent run or decent catch every now and then points to the next Pro Bowler according to some of you; the stupidy never ceases to amaze me. There be an IQ test and a minimal amount of experience actually playing or coaching a team in order to comment.
WOW.............Anonymous you're really upset about the whole DC thing , I must admit I too was very upset with that situation, but we gotta move on!!! Yes I too think DC will have a great year with the Raiders, but thats not my team Miami is and even though I'm not thrilled about Cam's decision making I'm gonna hold my judgement and see what he can do!!
But with your last statment you just opened the flood gates , this blog is going to get off the chain is a bit!!!
Slush, kudos to you. I couldn't agree more. Not all of us who read the Herald have occasion to buy it.
Forgive Mando, though, he hangs out with so many Jews and Commies he thinks all South Floridians are one or the other. (Just because you vote the right way Mando, doesn't mean those people haven't tainted your ideological purity.)
As for Mrs. Jose Cil, well no woman could give her a worse name then she has already earned through her harlotry. She also happens to be a crypto-Jew.
Jews, Democrats, communists, and running backs most arouse her. (I wouldn't be surprised if she serviced EL CABALLO and Richie Kotite at the same time.)
Why running backs, you might ask? Well, the Mrs. can go horizontal with the best of them.
After El VIEJO and his brother die and we return to the island triumphant, Armando and I are going to tie her up and visit upon my wife the ancient punishment our Spanish forefather meted out to harlots, deviants, conversos and marranos.
Hey anonymous, you gotta move on man. I don't know about you, but I remember a lot of Miami fans last year telling Minnesota fans "Thank you for being such jerks to Culpepper." Culpepper did well in the preseason last year, and we started getting visions of a great season ahead. Well, that wasn't what happened.
I think the Culpepper you saw in Miami will be the same Culpepper you'll see in Oakland. He doesn't look right when scrambling, he still fumbles the ball, and he still holds onto the ball way too long. I've said once, and I'll say it again. If you want to support Culpepper that's fine. However, do us "true" Dolphins fans a favor, and go don your #8 Raiders jersey and cheer for them. You call yourself a Dolphins fan, yet you pledge your allegiance to Culpepper. I'm sorry, but YOU are no fan of the Miami Dolphins.
If and I mean, IF.... Culpepper succeeds in Oakland it'll be because that he is in a system that best fits him, and his style of play. Despite what some of you think, Culpepper would've never succeeded in Coach Cameron's system.
couldn't agree more about Daunte Culpepper.
The Dolphins, at least, should have allowed him to compete for the job with Trent Green before releasing him.
A mere $1.3 million saved in cap room wasn't worth the chance he could return to form, to excel Trent Green, and to tutor Beck.
(BTW, John Beck, I know Dan Marino. I loved Dan Marino. John Beck, you're NO Dan Marino.)
Cameron and Mueller showed themselves petty and short-sighted by holding Daunte's association with the Saban regime against them.
I too love the Dolphins. But when Daunte, single-handedly, leads the Raiders in triumph over the Dolphins on the 30th (with help from Ricky) and the Dolphins end up missing the playoffs by a single win, I'm going to find great satisfaction in seeing justice served.
I guess my passion for justice exceeds my tribal loyalty to the Fins.
the real deal said:
Culpepper did well in the preseason last year, and we started getting visions of a great season ahead. No, he didn't.
I think the Culpepper you saw in Miami will be the same Culpepper you'll see in Oakland. He doesn't look right when scrambling, he still fumbles the ball, and he still holds onto the ball way too long. You would be wrong. The experts also disagree with you.
You call yourself a Dolphins fan, yet you pledge your allegiance to Culpepper. I'm sorry, but YOU are no fan of the Miami Dolphins. Such simplemindedness is not an attractive quality - typical, but not attractive. I am a fan of football sir and a greater fan of the Miami Dolphins football team and its players than I am of a temporary coaching staff. A team by the way which believes Culpepper was screwed and has little faith in Green surviving.
If and I mean, IF.... Culpepper succeeds in Oakland it'll be because that he is in a system that best fits him, and his style of play. Despite what some of you think, Culpepper would've never succeeded in Coach Cameron's system. Wow! Do you have any clue? Detail the differences between Minnesota' system, Cam's system and the Raiders system. These responses are pathetic.
Lets see. Daunte not healthy. Wrong. Daunte not smart enough to learn a new system. Wrong. Daunte not a team player. Wrong. Daunte doesn't fit into the system. Wrong. Coach Cam wanted the best QB to win in competition. Wrong.
With Daunte gone, Lemon is our best QB. Lemon proved that via performance, not potential. Beck is the future? Daunte or Lemon could have been that future. Beck will be old before he ever starts (he will not be a 10 year starter for Miami) - of course, he was a better pick than Quinn if we had to do something stupid.
^^^ You're an idiot. Culpepper sucks.
Who cares about Culpepper... The Raiders will suck and Duante will put up great stats while his team never comes close to the playoffs. Get over it dude... And be careful whose knowledge you question jackass.
Cheer for your team or follow Daunte to Raider's black hole.
Boy, this anonymous guy sure has one hell of a man-crush on Dumbte Suckpepper. Take it from a person who watched him for most of his career. He's not the real deal, never has, never will be. He's not a winner and has no clue how to lead a team. He doesn't respond well to coaching, and he panics easily when he sees that his primary read is well covered. He's selfish, lazy, and refuses to learn how to scan the field properly. Culpepper is nothing without Moss, you saw it in Miami and you'll see it in Oakland.
Some of you guys don't know shit about football; patrick and viking fan immediately come to mind. Of course, these folks probably liked Ryan Leaf or Fiedler. What moron came up with the notion you couldn't disagree with personnel moves and still be a fan. Oh wait, I know, probably the same jackass who said if you questioned the government, you weren't a patriot. Sheep.
This anonymous guy is an idiot. Never have I seen such a crush on one player. Culpepper is gone, get over it already.
Dumbte Culpooper sucks. He is lazy, selfish, and stupid! He will fail in Oakland.
It's fine to disagree with personnel moves, but it's done, let it go... I personally never liked Culpepper. Since you brought up Fiedler, why don't you look it up and see who has a better career winning percentage, Fiedler or Culpepper?
I told you , you opened the flood gates. There are more DC haters than there are supporters!! And to all the DUMBASS folks out there who think to be a fan you can only like and support players on your team GROW UP!!!!
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why don't you look up who has a better career td to interception ratio. a qb can't overcome the deficiencies of an entire team.
harry sachs obviously has issues since he associates "crushes" with men.
the facts are simple. culpepper was a better choice than our current QB's. i would take peyton manning (or a couple other QB's) over culpepper but we didn't have that choice. the choice was culpepper or trent green. that is a no brainer and only an imbecile would pay millions and 2 draft picks to dump culpepper and trade for green. you simple-minded folks claimed culpepper was done and was nothing without moss so it was a good move. you were wrong. admit it and we can put culpepper behind us. otherwise it will be thrown in your face everytime green fails to deliver.
Culfumbler is a moron. He is a selfish me first player who is stupid and can't read defenses. He will suck in Oakland, hopefully his knee will gt injured again and the NFL will be rid of this idiot once and for all!
That was a DUMBASS statement!!!
TO ALL Culpepper haters: Please list valid arguments not stupid rants and/or your stupid feelings!!!
I tell you what, this is the last thing I'll say about this. I have a question for all of you that have sworn their allegiance to Culpepper. That question is this, If Culpepper winds up as a failure in Oakland, would you be willing to admit that he isn't as good as you thought he was? Because, I'll be man enough to say the very same if Trent stinks up the joint in Miami. However, I just have a sinking feeling that those of you who lust for Culpepper will continue to make excuses for him for the rest of his career.
real deal,
if Culpepper sucks in Oakland, I will be glad to admit he is done AND happily announce Cam made a good move even if he approached it in a shitty, deceptive and hypocritical manner.
if the dolphins do well, i will be ecstatic. if lemon was named the starter i would be thrilled. if beck was named the starter i would jump for joy. if green manages to be in the top 10 qb's statistically, i will be humbled beyond belief.
bottom line... i was happy with our picks in the draft - for the most part - i would rather we kept culpepper and traded up to get the #1 wide receiver in the draft. i would even be happy with our first two picks and trading culpepper provided we skipped trading for green.
I'm a Culpepper supporter , but I'm a bigger Dolphin fan!!! I'm not affraid to admit when I'm wrong that's why I always leave a name!!! If C-pep sucks this season please call me out, hell you won't have to cause I already have a bet with Jax, if I loose I have to call myself out!!!
For all the C-pep haters out there you can give it up, Trent and Daunte will be compared for the rest of the season so get over it!!!
Culpepper has some great stats. I would certainly not argue that with you. Talent wise before the knee he was one of the elite QBs in the league based on talent. What I don't like about Culpepper is the intangibles. I never felt he was a great leader. He played on some pretty good Vikings teams but with the exception of one season the team faded down the stretch. I don't mean faded a little, they tanked.
The is an argument we'll never be able to win because he didn't get the chance to prove himself with Cameron. But I think Cameron should have the option of picking the guy he wants to lead his team. Even if Culpepper is more talented he may not be a fit in Cameron's system.
I wish him well in Oakland and hope he gets back his old form, but he's not here and I've moved on... I suppose the only QBs who are ever truly revered are the one's with a couple rings on their fingers. We haven't had one of those in 30+ years... That sucks when you think about it 30 freaking years...
Wow. Looks like people still get agitated over the whole DC thing. Diz, don't sweat the nameless lol. I'll say one thing for j. dizzle, he's consistent. He supported DC when he was still a Dolphin; and j. dizzle is as entitled to his opinion as any other. He's not rooting against his team, the Dolphins, he just can't get over the way that Cam said there would be competition between the two, and I think we all can agree here, that no competition between DC and Green ever happened. I was pissed when they let him go for no value, but I saw that DC didn't fit in Malcolm's offense. So he and Mueller let him go. Okay. Done deal. I think if you ask Diz, he'll tell you that he wants the Dolphins to win vs Oakland September 30. But I think after that he doesn't want DC to get hurt, which is a real possibility considering this defense. For myself, I'd like to see him do well enough to not win the game, and I'll yell when JT or Matt or Vonnie or whichever Dolphin nails DC with a good hit. The bottom line is DC must go down, and he must go down hard.
I have to admit that he's done better in Oakland than I ever thought, though it is just preseason.
Perhaps anonymous is a jets fan in dolphin clothing. You guys should lighten up. j. dizzle is not the enemy. He seems as much or more a Dolfan than many who post here.
You know, I'm starting to think that maybe the issue of Culpepper should be treated like any discussion of religion or politics. That being, this subject is WAY too taboo and it riles everyone up way too much. Let's just agree to disagree. Let's put our love/hate for Culpepper aside and be what we're supposed to be, Dolphins fans.
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You got that right JAX!!!
On Sept. 30th I want to see the Dolphins murder those guys in Black and silver, and I know they will!!!
DC is no longer a dolphin, which means me and the rest of his supporters have to let his game play prove our point!!!! Guys just let it go, when DC makes the pro bowl we'll have our day to pounce on all these haters!!! But for now lets just focus on what the fins need to do to make the playoffs!!!
I know its a touchy subject but without proof (ex; stats from the coming season)no one can prove there point, which leaves us with a bunch of opinions, and dummies saying he's everything but a child of god!! It makes a great debate but nothing can be proven .........
......................YET!!!
Is it the regular season yet? Bring on the Redskins already and let's see what happens.
GO PHINS
forget DC and lets focus on the Fins. even though they lost its nice to see them put up some points. something like that has been missing for a while
--CJ
it seems to me that people are content with green being our QB, however is it me or does he look uncomfortable in the pocket? To me it seems like he cannot see the whole field and has trouble spotting open receivers. During the bucs game all I saw was a bunch of passes that were dumpd off to a RB or a pass which bailed him out b/c he waited too long to throw. I have yet to see him make a deep pass or a pass over the middle that looked like he was the trent green of old. I would like to know if any one else feels this way
Go Fins!
Jose Cil,
You are a low-life, hypocritical, bigotted, dogmatic, extremist, racially prejudiced, anti-semite. No wonder why Mrs. Jose Cil left you.
Armando,
I believe in free speach as much as the next guy, but please take out the trash that sullies your fine blog. Unacceptance and racism should not be tolerated.
Go Dolphins
Anonymous.......... I too think Trent looks jumpy and uncomfortable in the pocket, he still has that injury fresh in his mind and until he fully trust that o-line, he's going to keep that injury fresh in his mind. I think that's been the reason for all the INT's!!!
"There be an IQ test..."
IQ test be failed.
Wow...some of you are hilarious! Did any of you actually WATCH the Vikes when DC was there? Ever wonder why Linehan didn't sign him to the Rams or why the Rams signed Bulger to an extension instead of signing or trading for DC as "competition"? (For you who have issues following DC history...he was DC's OC at the VIkes).
Every wonder why the Vikes let him go for a 2nd rounder? Do you REALLY think it was the love boat scandal or that Childress had issues with DC?
The bottom line is...every coach knows he's linked to his QB choices...and typically their jobs depend more on that choice than any other. Two coaches and two organizations CHOSE to get rid of DC...and not let their futures be decided or defined by HIM.
I'm 39 and my best friend is a life long Viking fan. He watches the games religiously, and knows as much about football as any of the best "fans" of the game. He "warned" me when we signed DC that Carter and Moss made him. Just like they made Jeff George, Randal Cunningham, Gus Frerotte, and anyone else who went under center at Minnesota for that matter, look like a pro bowler.
He may do ok at Oakland with Kiffin's offense...who knows, and who cares. What I DO know is that I believe in Cam's offense and what it produced in San Diego, and I'm willing to let HIM choose who he wants to run it...because his coaching life and career rest on it. Not any of ours!
I am first and foremost a fan of the franchise. DC is no longer on our team. Period. I'll take Cam, Green, Beck, and Ginn over Saban, J. Allen, Ricky, and DC all day every day.
If any of you don't...tough sh*t. That's what you get.
~JinVA
Please don't hold my husband saying retarded things against him. It's that his cellmate Big Bubba often forces him to say or do things men typically don't want to say or do.
And I never left him, for the record. I remain true to him and all my boyfriends as well.
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