Quarterback plan now up in the air for KC game
(Updated again late Monday afternoon)
Cam Cameron originally had a two-game plan for his quarterbacks that included, as I reported, starting Trent Green against Jacksonville and Cleo Lemon against Kansas City.
But following Saturday's poor performance he said late this afternoon he has to go back and rethink the plan.
“The rotation will be the same," Cameron said. "The time element we haven’t decided yet. Again, that’s still a couple days away before we’ll finalize that. Actually, let’s just wait. I don’t want to be sitting here saying ‘this is what we’re thinking today’ because I haven’t thought it through. I don’t need to think it through just yet. We did have a little bit of a two-game plan. I’ll update you more maybe tomorrow or Wednesday.”
Actually, the rotation may not necessarily be the same. Originally, Cameron wasn't sure if Green would play at all, meaning Lemon would start.
If that stays as is, Lemon will start and would play two quarters.
If Cameron changes the plan, Green may be back in there as the starter for some snaps as the starter.
If the plan changes, it must be noted, it is a definite sign the coach is concerned about the progress of his offense -- particularly the timing of Green with his receivers.
As I reported in the earlier post, a determination on which direction he goes will be affected by practices Monday and Tuesday.
(Monday afternoon update: A lot of you think I'm starting some sort of QB controversy with this post. Please be more intelligent than that. I am simply reporting what Miami's initial plan is. Secondly, a lot of you finally got a chance to comment on Daunte Culpepper's debut in Oakland. It was, shall we say, eventful.
(He completed 5 of 12 passes for 78 yards. One of his completions went 50 yards. But he also fumbled twice and was sacked once. Playing late in the third quarter and throughout the fourth quarter, Culpepper led Oakland to one field goal.)
Your thoughts?
Cam Cameron originally had a two-game plan for his quarterbacks that included, as I reported, starting Trent Green against Jacksonville and Cleo Lemon against Kansas City.
But following Saturday's poor performance he said late this afternoon he has to go back and rethink the plan.
“The rotation will be the same," Cameron said. "The time element we haven’t decided yet. Again, that’s still a couple days away before we’ll finalize that. Actually, let’s just wait. I don’t want to be sitting here saying ‘this is what we’re thinking today’ because I haven’t thought it through. I don’t need to think it through just yet. We did have a little bit of a two-game plan. I’ll update you more maybe tomorrow or Wednesday.”
Actually, the rotation may not necessarily be the same. Originally, Cameron wasn't sure if Green would play at all, meaning Lemon would start.
If that stays as is, Lemon will start and would play two quarters.
If Cameron changes the plan, Green may be back in there as the starter for some snaps as the starter.
If the plan changes, it must be noted, it is a definite sign the coach is concerned about the progress of his offense -- particularly the timing of Green with his receivers.
As I reported in the earlier post, a determination on which direction he goes will be affected by practices Monday and Tuesday.
(Monday afternoon update: A lot of you think I'm starting some sort of QB controversy with this post. Please be more intelligent than that. I am simply reporting what Miami's initial plan is. Secondly, a lot of you finally got a chance to comment on Daunte Culpepper's debut in Oakland. It was, shall we say, eventful.
(He completed 5 of 12 passes for 78 yards. One of his completions went 50 yards. But he also fumbled twice and was sacked once. Playing late in the third quarter and throughout the fourth quarter, Culpepper led Oakland to one field goal.)
Your thoughts?
posted by Armando Salguero at 1:27 AM
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Honestly, it might make sense to start the season with Lemon as our starting QB. Lemon can just be a placeholder for a game or two while Green continues to get up to speed. It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.
Lemon has been steadily improving since last year. With our O-Line, we'll probably need all 3 QBs ... or at least the QB will get the blame & the others will get a chance.
Speaking of the O-Line ... next time at the grocery store when they ask "paper or plastic" ... best stock up on paper bags!! lol
Gonna be interesting!! Go Phins!!
Cheers, JerryD
Armando, give it a break:
8/12/07- You trash an offensive line in its first start as a unit, with mostly rookies on it and trash their learning opportunity. Everyone who knows football knows that the defense is always ahead of the offense at this point. It takes time. Rome wasn't built in a day, but need need it to be.
8/13/07- You start a QB controversy. I guess you are not happy unless there is chaos. This team has too many new starters on it to expect too much. But I guess you are ready for Cam to win the big one in his first year with a revamped offensive play book, new line, new QB.
Patience!
I think Cleo is going to have do something pretty spectacular to win the job. I do think that, if the o-line is going toneed more time gel, that Cleo could be a better fit as the starter. He's more mobile and younger, which means he can stand up to the hits a lot better than Green would.
Call me crazy, but I think Green is beginning to flinch. I dunno if it is the fear of suffering another concussion, but when a guy begins to flinch he's done as a starter.
Dan Marino started flinching towards the end of his career; it was a sign that he was finished.
We can blame the OL for a lot of what went wrong on Saturday, but Green didn't do anything on his own to make plays.
I know this is about Cleo, but your article about Trent Green was excellent and made some very good points! Trent Green and Coach Cameron may have been the only ones who knew what they were doing on Saturday night. Everybody else was running around like a chicken with it's head cut off.
Anyways, Cleo is going to have to come out on Thursday night with an "All World" performance if he plans on unseating Trent Green.
This will not be an open competition. Just ask Culpepper.
Trent Green looked terrible. Yes, he was hurried, but there were still guys open; however, his wounded duck passes were uncatchable. The job is his to lose? Fine, he lost it. Cleo looked sharp as he rolled out of the pocket and threw on the run which is important given the state of the Fins O-Line.
If Trent Green doesn't get cut then the Dolphins owe Daunte Culpepper an apology!!!
im supprised C-Pep lovers havent mentioned his stats over the weekend... lets see no td's no ints and 1 fumble that was lucky enough that the offense recovered... (nay sayers will say he's been there a week) i say he still fumbled and should have held the ball. green threw an int. ok... ones a matter of timing the other is a matter of holding the ball.... ill take the timing that can be worked on
--CJ
I like the move allthough I don't think it is entirely fair to judge Greens performance against Cleos when Cleo was playing against backups and practice squad players and it WAS the first game. I guess that's why they will give him a chance against first teamers. Also to Anonymous, Mando didn't start a QB controversy these are the facts that he is reporting,they want to start Lemon,it wasn't Armandos idea. Also to Anonymous about no open competition "just ask Culpepper". If you want to ask him you can find him in Oakland,clipboard in hand,football at his feet,backing up a kid named McCown. The only apology owed is one from Daunte to Wayne for stealing his money and being a horrible dissapointment as a football player and even more so as a man.
I see nothing wrong with deciding who is the better QB right now, then go into the season with it settled. I thought Green did a good job of stepping into the pocket even though his accuracy was pretty bad. I thought Lemon handled the situation ok too, though nothing to get excited about. I think Green has the inside track but I think it best to let it play out and "may the better QB win".
Geezus people...it was the FIRST preseason game. Let reserve judgement for when the real bullets are flying. I remember the season when Dan Marino came back from his Achilles injury. He was ATROCIOUS in preseason. What did he do the first game of the regular season?? He lit up the Patsies for 4 TDs and threw for over 400 yards.
I understand that Trent Green is no Dan Marino. However, I would have to be a complete and utter moron to believe that Cleo Lemon will beat out Trent Green for the opening day starting QB spot. No way, NO HOW.
As for the game on Saturday night...who cares?? Its preseason. You don't see what you think you're seeing. Its all a facade.
For the record, I'm not bashing Lemon. I think he's a capable player that can help the offense in the long run. Its just that right now belongs to Trent Green and the future belongs to John Beck. That is all.
QB controversy.....NOT
Obviously this isn't a QB controversy, it is a QB consipricy! :-).
I think it wise to let Clemon start against the Chiefs. Gives TG a rest after taking all that punishment - he really got 4 qtrs worth in that one half.
I hope to see Beck get at least one shot at a drive again, but the #4 has to have a fair chance as well. Cam appears to have a degree of fairness.
I think that one could also make a case that Cam isn't starting TG in order to spare him the Chiefs D giving him a special welcome to Arrowhead.
I look forward to the game.
Trent played two straight QTRS and produced squat. He actually played against the Jags second string in the second QTR and produced squat.
Trent looked scared most of the time.
First, anyone who believes Cam is honestly considering whether to make Lemon the starter over his hand-picked boy is unequivocally a moron.
Second, Daunte looked great and was the polar opposite of Green. He showed arm-strength, was accurate, rolled out of the pocket and showed the ability to get the ball out quick. The fumble? A product of his center being driven back into him at the snap - Marino had a ton of those too, dumbasses.
We should take names of all the folks who whined and cried for us to get Quinn and/or Green so we can recognize their pathetic football knowledge at the end of the year when Daunte outplays them both. Schmucks.
Armando should just trot out last years articles and change the names. The Dolphins are playing the same old tune. Cam, Saban, Wanny - doesn't matter, all peas in the same pod making the same stupid decisions.
Like most of us, I was optimistic when we acquired Daunte. It didn't work out -- not his fault, not the Dolphins', not the fans'. So this year we have a new offense directed by a recognized offensive mind, albeit in his first NFL head coaching job. And Coach Cameron, our chosen offensive director, deemed that Daunte was not the right QB for his system. Why is this difficult to accept? Nobody's saying that Daunte wasn't great in Minnesota or that he won't be great again somewhere else. It's just that the mind we've trusted to put our offense together wants a QB with a different skill set than Daunte's. It would be like if a running guru wanted a Reggie Bush-type instead of a Jerome Bettis-type. He's not saying that the Bettis-type isn't good, just that he's not right for a particular system. There would be no real reason to have Bettis "compete" to do what Bush does naturally. Why do any of you self-proclaimed experts think you can judge how well Daunte would do in Cameron's system, which relies heavily upon a QB's ability to read defenses (a Trent Green strength) and less upon other strengths that Daunte had or has? I would hope and assume Cameron could look at Culpepper's and Green's respective bodies of work and KNOW which QB best fits his system.
I want to see John Beck play at least one FULL quarter on Thursday for the Chiefs game!
I would like to see John Beck get some more time too. That is only if the O-Line can do their job.
Even if Lemon has 500 passing yards in the first half he WON'T be starting over Trent Green!! If Lemon starts over Green then how would Cam be able to really justify trading away our 5th round pick and causing soooooooooo much drama for a guy who isn't starting?!?!?! BE FOR REAL PEOPLE!!!
Also I knew the day wouldn't go by without someone comparing my favorite QB to his replacement!!!! I'm not going to get into this one but I truly hope Trent gets his stuff together because I think he's done!!! That injury may be healed, but it's still fresh in his mind everytime he gets behind our O-Line!! He has a mental issue he has to overcome he played just as shaky last year when he returned from the scrambled eggs injury, which shows mentally he's not past it!!!!!
Like most of us, I was optimistic when we acquired Daunte. It didn't work out -- not his fault, not the Dolphins', not the fans'. And Coach Cameron, our chosen offensive director, deemed that Daunte was not the right QB for his system. Why is this difficult to accept? Nobody's saying that Daunte wasn't great in Minnesota or that he won't be great again somewhere else.
Fairly reasonable and deserving of a response. To the easy issue, a majority of the morons on here have proclaimed Quinn a savior, Green a savior, and stated Culpepper sucked and was nothing without Moss and was washed up.
A good coach adjusts the system to the personnel. Secondly, this whole argument is nonsense. Cam's system dumps the ball off to running backs and tight-ends most of the time. My daughter could manage that. Green has been in it for 12 years and still sucks. Offensive genius? This is the same pathetic offense we have seen for years. Its football - not rocket science and there is nothing innovative about putting folks in motion and dumping the ball.
Lastly, the Dolphins and Cam lied, screwed Culpepper and screwed the fans AND made a poor financial decision which will result in further ticket price increases.
last poster said: "I'm not going to get into this one but I truly hope Trent gets his stuff together because I think he's done!!! That injury may be healed, but it's still fresh in his mind everytime he gets behind our O-Line!! He has a mental issue he has to overcome he played just as shaky last year when he returned from the scrambled eggs injury, which shows mentally he's not past it!!!!!"
Sounds an awful lot like Daunte Culpepper from last year to me...
Wow, I'm reading Armando's post and everyone's reaction and comments and I'm loving it. There are some good points being made on all sides.
But I really believe if Cleo throws for 300 yards against KC, Cameron has to name him the starter.
Today is a great day!
I'm not sure if anyone was watching what I was watching Saturday but my distinct impression was that Cameron intentionally put Green and the offense in the worst possible situations. I later read it called "failing forward fast." It is based on the idea of putting people in situations where they are destined to fail but then are given the opportunity to learn from their mistakes. It is supposed to accelerate the learning process. What better time to deploy such a strategy than in the first preseason game?
It almost sounds like an excuse for the abysmal performance we saw, but it does make sense and could be brilliant if it works. So if that was the case then why start Lemon and not give Green the chance to rectify his performance? I can only think the strategy was not intended for Green but was meant for the OL.
Whoever said Cameron may be keeping Green out because the game is in KC and they would be teeing off on him may be absolutely correct. In any case, our QB is going to stink until the OL comes together. You could put Marino or Montana back there and it would make no difference. Green did a good job of stepping up the pocket and avoiding the rush but there was just too much pressure. Let Cleo take some of the beating while the OL develops.
Some poster said "sounds an awful lot like Daunte Culpepper last year."
Lets refresh your memory. Daunte was rushed back and played while he was still injured.
Daunte this year is healthy and will do for the Raiders what he would have done for us. His treatment demoralized many members of our team and tossed excitement out the door.
However, you are right about one thing. Most of this year will sound just like what you heard last year. Excuses on why we lost.
The best so far. Green sucked - statement of fact. Cam's response. He did some good things and was creative in the pocket. Yeah! Blow some more smoke up my ass... tell me all jobs are open and the best man will play.
Looks like Green seriously outplayed Dante... NOT! They pretty much were identical. Two fumbles compared to a fumble and an int. Similar completion percentage... similar yards. Why did we trade a second rounder for Dante and just give up. If we wanted to give up, then why did we turn around and trade another pick for Green? It makes no sense. I really wish they'd just start Beck. Its not like starting him is going to ruin our playoff chances... Let Beck "Fail Forward Fast"! Why wait? Green showed me everything I expected...
No "Lemon" Cleo, no "Green" Trent. We want to see John Beck baby!!!!
What is wrong with a little quarterback competition? We want the best man in the game playing at the beginning of the season. The Dolphin fans deserve that. We kept Culpepper in 4 games too many last year. All of the other stuff is ego oriented. I don't care who starts as long as it is the guy who gives us the best chance of winning. We can't afford to fall behind early this season. TOM
Since Marino left the Dolphins have constantly tried to play older QB's. It has failed, failed, failed, failed, and is failing again.
Put Beck in and build a team around him. It may take a couple years to be great, but I'd rather wait a couple years than have the next 7 years look like the last 7.
"Anonymous said...
im supprised C-Pep lovers havent mentioned his stats over the weekend... lets see no td's no ints and 1 fumble that was lucky enough that the offense recovered... (nay sayers will say he's been there a week) i say he still fumbled and should have held the ball. green threw an int. ok... ones a matter of timing the other is a matter of holding the ball.... ill take the timing that can be worked on"
Green fumbled also and unlike Culpepper, it was lost!
i see the idiot who calls himself "nyscott" is still posting here.
punk: daunte is hardly going to be backing up mccown. he will certainly make green look like the wuss he is as he improves week by week. the fumbles, chalk that up to rust from two years of knee recovery and a new team in which he is learning their playbook for just more than a week or so.
cleo lemon is/should be the dolphins qb. old man green aint gonna last long behind this offensive line, even worse than the line daunte had to put up with last year.
For Christ sakes, can we just have ONE blog where somebody DOESN'T mention Culpepper?!!? Culpepper is not here anymore! Enough already.
Its comical this blog doesn't get crunk up until we start discussing Duante, look at the previous blogs they all have no more than 20 comments. The ones with Duante have about 40+ comments!!! So you may not want to hear about him but he keeps these blogs interesting, and will forever be mentioned, and compared to Green until either all the nay sayers can prove their point or all the supporters prove their point.(when Green goes down in week#1 with a punishing hit from Sean Taylor on a safety blitz!!)
JED, I am still posting here and will be for as long as I choose. To your statement about Daunte, HE IS ALREADY BACKING UP MCCOWN! He is listed as the second QB on the team and would probably be third if Russell were ready because,and get this, HE IS STILL INJURED. His leg will never allow him to be the scrambler he once was so he better learn how to read defenses pretty damn quick if he is going to be able to compete at a high level in this league. Besides, who gives a crap about Daunte Culpepper?! He doesn't play for the Dolphins does he? Than why do so many people continue to whine about him? I'm an idiot?! You are more of a fan of Daunte C. than you are of the Dolphins. Does that make any sense at all? WHO CARES how or if he plays in Oakland? Be a F**king Raiders fan if you think that one player is more important than an entire orginazation. Jed,,you are really Daunte aren't you? Move on man,your new team needs you to focus because they are a laughing stock.
Also I have a question........If Trent Green gets sacked 21 times in the first four games will it be his fault or the O-line?? Will you Green supporters still be all for Trent or is he gonna be one of the worst QB's to wear the uniform as well?? Is he gonna be stupid and dumb, can't read defense type of guy or what??
Just a question!?!?!?!
Green played in the 1st and 2nd against the 1st and 2nd team Defense of a top 5 D, Daunte played the end of the 3rd and 4th quarters against people trying to make the team. Plus, it's the 1st friggen pre-season game. Without Carey to protect his blindside and other people at new positions and receivers learning the offense, let it go man.
And who ever said it wasn't rocket science is absolutely correct, but I don't see that person out there coaching the pro team, so maybe they should try it. It's alot easier to talk smack from the keyboard than it is to call plays on a 30 second clock, read defenses in 3-5 seconds, hit the hole between 300 lb D-Linemen, run routes, block stunting/twisting linemen, tackle running backs, rush the passer or cover professional receivers....try it sometime, I'm sure you'll feel the same way afterwards.
I'm not saying this makes that game, the team or the front office moves perfect, I'm just saying give them some time to gel.
nyscott is confused.
Daunte being listed as the second string QB is as important as Lemon being listed the starter for the Dolphins this week.
Raiders a laughingstock? We are right there with them - revolving QB's, revolving coaches, from head of class to bottom of the barrel in a few short years. It is embarassing watching a football show when they comment on the Dolphins.
It isn't just about Daunte. Its about poor decision after poor decision, nimrod. It starts at the top and the result of those poor decisions has been our succession of coaches who in turn suck and make poor decisions. Lets see how well getting rid of our Pro Bowl tight to pick up two castaways works out. Trent Green can't throw to anyone except a TE and we get rid of our best one. Smart move.
Ricky Williams stoned is a Pro Bowl player behing that line and we won't even talk to him relying on Ronnie "let me run into the linemans ass" Brown.
Laughingstock. Indeed. If we had any brains running this team, we would have kept C-Pep, picked up Adalius Thomas for less money than Porter, traded for Moss and pursued some real linemen and an impact cornerback.
dylan said "blah, blah, blah."
I played football for 14 years. I know exactly what its like to call the play, read a defense, be hit by 300 lb linemen, run a rollout and throw a 70 yard pass to a wide receiver. You?
Great comments Anonymous
Get over it!! Daunte's gone!! I don't care what Daunte does with the Raiders!! All I care about are the phins!!
It would actually be fun if any of you people would post a name so we could have a back and forth but the anonymous thing is annoying. Just make up a name, Jed did it. So ANONYMOUS said I was confused and that Culpepper being listed as the second QB wasn't important. How about the fact that not 5 minutes ago on Sportscenter Schlereth and Michael Smith reported that Daunte had a horrible game against third stringers. They also said that he is very far behind McCown as far as the depth chart goes and has not picked up enough of the offense nor has he been accurate enough to unseat McCown as the starter. THEN they went on to say that Dauntes own teammates said he is still limping and doesn't look like the old Daunte. THEN they showed footage of Daunte after the 50 yard pass and he limped all of the way down the field to rejoin his team. The O-line beat him to the ball! So please tell me what I am confused about.
Look, all I was originally trying to say was lets give Green a chance. It is stupid to boo someone in a meaningless pre-season game. Can anyone argue with that? I don't think Trent is the answer to all of our problems and either does Cameron. It's about building for the future and that is what we have Beck for. I can't wait to see him play either but throwing him into a starting role behind a rookie o-line is only going to hurt his chances for success. We don't need to break his confidence before he picks up the offense. I just wish everyone would be more patient with Cam. It's not fair to him that so many people gave clueless Wanny so many years of excuses and made Saban the messiah eventhough they set the Dolphins back so much. Just give the guy some time. Why is that too much to ask?
After Culpepper threw the ball, he hopped around on his left leg in traffic. Looks like his right leg is way bad.
I always wondered specifically why we ditched Culpepper ... management never tells the real story. Obvious to me that the bum leg is the reason, which I think all of us can agree that's a bad value for BIG $$ & roster spot.
Why do we talk about Cpep asks many Phinatics. My best answer is that the Dolphins decade of woes is about our hideous draft & personnel decisions. i.e. Bolts put 11 in pro bowl. Remember, those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it .... sounds like our management!!!
We need to dog management with these 100s of cukoo moves!!
Go Phins. Cheers, JerryD
Great Job nyscott, you nailed the root-cause Phin woes, BIG TIME!!
And another thing ... ranting about management .... & great discussion fodder for us ....
Do y'all know the players & management follow http://www.profootballtalk.com > Rumor Mill (news scooped before revealed) & even commented on it?
Miami has led the Turd Watch (player mishaps) by a huge margin!!
http://www.profootballtalk.com/turdwatch.htm
Rumor Mill reported today that Minnesota signed Fred Evans (so we lost his Turd Watch points, but still lead by a huge margin) ... guess he'll enjoy that Love Boat crew!! lol
Go Phins!! Cheers, JerryD
Ok, this will be the last time I post this - CPep was NOT rushed last season. He rushed himeself. HE told the media, the coaches, the fans that he was ready. The first time we heard about CPep "being rushed back to play" was from CPep himself just a few months ago. He was upset when he was benched, remember? He still wanted to play. We picked up Harrington last year in case CPep wasn't ready to start the season OR in case he was re-injured, remember? We didn't even plan on him starting the season. All we ever heard from CPep was, "I'll be ready by camp, I will start the season". He never, not once, prior to a few months ago, said he wasn't ready. Please, stop using CPep was rushed back, you are just furthering a lie. If reporters will do some research and pull to light any articles supporting CPep's claim, that would be helpful. I have not read one supporting document of CPep's claim. NYJeff
Let's get real here. Green looked bad because his receivers were not were they were supposed to be and the O-line was porous. Green needs to start the next game to develop rythym with the O and they need to get their assignments down. And one more thing, everyone rags on how Green is 37, but he does not have the typical wear and tear that a 37 yr old NFL QB does cause he was on the sidelines most of his career.
You people are hilarious
Cleo could look like the 2nd coming of Dan Marino and still would not be named the starter. To much has been invested in Green for that to happen. Personally I think Cleo is hands down the better QB in camp, at the moment. John Becks arm strength is and presence is VERY impressive and with time he will be the leader on this team, but right now Cleo has the edge on him and certainly over Green.
People!This was the first game!!!!Trent Green is used to an all-pro offensive line in kansas city he doesnt have that here in miami YET!give him time hes a pro hes still one of the best in the league.give the offensive line time to develop chemistry and communication.Dont judge a team on the first preseason game.lets wait til the third or fourth before we pass judgement.fact is ronnie brown is big finesse back that needs blocking he doesnt have YET!and trent green is QB that needs pass protection that he doesnt have YET!The team needs to develop with practice development comes...we have a great coach lets let him develop the offense like he did with a no-name running back and a no-name quarterback and a rookie quarterback...now those three guys are household names...lets give it some time!
Armando...
Cleo has shown well in past performances because of his time with the Dolfin's, and as many has pointed out most of the guys are new on the OL including Green. One pre-season game does not make a player. Learning the plays is not an over night deal.
Whom ever Cam chooses will be on his performance during training camp and pre-season games combined. Once Cam feels who ever is ready to move up then so be it. Quit dogging on the team, idiot. By the way, who cares what that fool Culpepper is doing, apparently it was not worth mentioning was it?
well i see my post got nocked off the site. must be because i exposed this reporter of bad info on the qb situation for saturday. good going mondo. thats why hank goldberg downs this rag all the time.
you all can go to the sun sentinal and see what cam said about the qb rotation . all this guy wants to do is start a contorversy. you all know he loved cpep.
leave this post up mondo so people can see the lies you spread. i know you won't .
I think that we made a mistake in letting go C-pep. The best thing we can do is try to get Culpepper back for a low draft choice -- like a 3rd draft choice.
Ok Guys,
Cleo will not be allowed by Cam to be the starter early. he brought Trent in to be the starter. So Cleo's job is to get ready to be the starter. Why, because Trent will get knocked out. History does repeat itself. Especially with the tackles we have in place. Trent holds the ball too long at times and it will come back to haunt him. Lemon needs to be ready and at the same time, move forward..because Beck is coming on like a freight train.
Beck will be ready by the eighth game to run this team if not before. He learns very quickly and is also well adjusted to his team mates, knowing when to admit he made a mistake, and not taking all praise for himself. That shows great leadership and team building values. It would not be surprising to me to see Lemon start at KC and Beck get 1-2 qtrs, both looking good. We need Vernon Carey back at LT now.
You are right Armando, the Sun-Sentinel sucks since Jason Cole left way back in 1998.
I feel sorry for you Dolphins fans since, like it or not, Green is finished. The concussions have ruined him, and he's one hit / sack away from retirement.
Also, regardless reasoning, Culpepper came back way too soon last year. The initial best case scenario was a 12 month injury, meaning a return last December. The real indication of what he has left will come now, since he should be as recovered as he's gonna get.
Dumbte Crappepper sucks. He is selfish, lazy, and is stupid.
Beck is THE best QB on the team. He has the talent and the ability over Green and Lemon. He does not have the NFL experience but he'll only get that by playing. Over the course of the season, the best option is to just start Beck now. Yes, he'll have some learning curve and he'll struggle and the Fins many not even make the playoff that way. But in the long-run, that's the best option. It took Beck years to become a great college QB. It may take him a couple of years to become even a good NFL QB but he has to play and learn the hard way to ever get there. The sooner the better... so START him now!!! Why fool around with a couple of second-rate guys like Green and Lemon? Makes no sense to me.
Who is this writer??? Stick to soccer! This is why I stopped reading this paper.
Hey anus, for you to imply Armando should be writing about soccer is a clear sign of discrimination because I assume you realize he is Hispanic.
Why don't you take your redneck, trailer-trash self back to the farm and make it with a pig -- which is what you're best suited for.
Oh, and stopped reading?
That assumes you ever started reading.
lets get over the Culpepper thing !! how many ways can you beat a dead horse or issue - give it a rest.
toss cull peper to the side he's finished.as i read earlier your right a danny boy dont come around everyday.give green and lemon a chance.do rember beck is our future.
All I'm hearing is a bunch of moaning and groaning from all you arm chair quarterbacks. Look, I like Daunte, but he's with the Raiders organization. Trent Green is the Dolphins starting quarterback, until there's change. So, let the past be and deal with the present situation.
Go Phins!!!!!!!!!
I don't think there'll be a quarterback controversy. It this simple, if Trent regain his form, he will be the man. If Trent doesn't regain form, then Cleo will take care of business.
Let wait and see!!!!
Ace, look like Armando got you hiding up under your mother's dress. Are you out there?
Make my day, PUNK!!!!!!
j dizzle, I do recall Miami (with that excellent defense) went to Kansas City. And Trent Green pick them apart. So, lets hold off on trying to bury the man.
Don't push the panic button on the
offensive line, they will get better!!!!
I'm not I'm just asking a question. Will you still support him if he has the " Duante start"??
Lemon is already a pro-grade QB. I'm in San Diego where he played nearly flawlessly and consistently every pre-season yet never got a chance. Sure no one has heard much about him but he is a genuine talent who deserves a shot at the starting gig over these has-beens. He could have done much better than those other QB's last year. DS, San Diego
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