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Sunday, March 02, 2008

Parcells: Taylor will have to retire to leave Dolphins

The Miami Dolphins are not going to trade Jason Taylor. The only way he does not play for the Dolphins in 2008 is if he retires.

This from Dolphins football czar Bill Parcells.

"There is nothing to it," Parcells said of the report that said the Dolphins and Taylor are parting ways. "That is journalistic irresponsibility. There's a lot of that going around these days."

Parcells is concerned such a story could hurt the Dolphins.

"Free agency is going on and we are trying to put a team together and this kind of thing is very harmful," he said. "And it is not true. The only way Jason Taylor doesn't play for the Dolphins is if he retires. The team is not going to trade him."

Of course, it is entirely possible Taylor might retire. He has spoken about retirement in the past, specifically after the 2005 season. And it's not like the guy needs the money or work. He has made over $100 million in salary and endorsements throughout his 11-year career.

But Hollywood beckons and, according to one of Taylor's confidants, he could easily make $4-$10 million a year making movies and doing other projects.

So now apparently the ball is in Taylor's court. He might not play for the Dolphins in 2008, as reported. But he's not playing for anyone else if he doesn't.


Blogger Fox Mulder said...

That article hurts the team in one way: it lowers Taylor's trade value. Teams won't feel like they have to give up much now that it seems the Fins will part with him no matter what.

12:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have to imagine someone if going to lose their job over leaking this information.

12:31 PM  
Anonymous Dennis said...

Does it really matter and who cares anyway? JT nor Zack in their prime were enough to make this team a contender. We need a team, not poster boy multi-millionare players focused on their future hollywoodie careers.

12:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Jets people probably put that rumor out there so Calvin Pace will sign with them.

12:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who was it that said "son I lost with you,,,,I can lose without you"? Anyway it seems like Bill probably wanted to see what he could get for JT but now that some jackass reporter spilled the beans it hurt the Dolphins negotiating power. And geez I wonder why Parcells is so against the media because they are always so helpful to the cause. Just like the time we almost got serious trade value for Ricky Williams and some moron reporter let it spill that he failed a drug test which was supposed to be kept secret (drug program rule). Thanks guys, bang up job as usual. NYScott

12:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmm, interesting tidbit AS, but I didn't know your source was Chris Mortenson from ESPN.

12:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

soo relieved to hear this!

12:51 PM  
Anonymous MartinK said...

JT will be traded. Parcells is posturing so that teams believe they have to make a serious offer to get JT, not just a low-ball offer.

12:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

any word on calvin pace yet?
i mean we signed anderson from the texans... does that hinder orhelp the chances of us getting pace?


12:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this is true, we're already witnessing the first dumb mistake in the Parcells era.

They wouldn't trade Jason.... Why? Forcing him to play for us if he wants to play football is going to help this franchise... How?

Anyone who knows anything about football can see that trading a 33 year old defensive end out of a rebuilding team is a smart move.

Why doesn't Parcells see it?

1:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get JJ on the phone, Marion Barber for JT straight up, let twinkle toes reunite with Zach in the big D.

1:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of course Parcells is posturing. JT is already checked out, putting dance ahead of fball...think Parcells will accept that? No way.
Wasn't it TunaHead disappointed that Cameron was worried about the content on fin website instead of fball and here he and his mates are worried about rumors on the web. Totally hypocritical. Tuna is a hot air machine and his two ex cowboy assistants nothing more than his fruit of the loom.

1:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see lot's of sarcastic remarks directed at JT for the dancing gig. Amazing. The guy has been, along with Zach, our best D player for 10-12 years, and many are willing to figuratively burn him at the stake...for what? He's set to be in training camp, right? Does anyone think he needs mini-camp? I don't.

His play did not diminish last year, the D as whole stunk which impacted his individual stats.

So much for fan loyalty.

1:32 PM  
Anonymous Patrick said...

Think about it, who would have given Jason Cole this information? It came from none other than Jason Taylor himself. He knows Cole from his days as a Herald sports writer. That is why Parcells is so pissed off. He knows where it came from.

Taylor is angry because he would like to choose where he ends up just like Zach was given that opportunity. He has no control over which team the Dolphins will trade him to and so I decided to get vindictive and leak this out. Why else would he be going to live in LA during the off-season if there is not a serious rift between him and the Parcells team.

Taylor has turned into a prima donna and has been going in that direction for several years. Parcells has no intention of keeping him and as others have said this hurts our leverage in a trade scenario. Parcells made the retire statement because he knows that if Taylor retires his rights remain with the Dolphins.

Old Bill is playing hardball with Taylor. "Oh yeah, you're so damn clever to leak this out, well guess what, if we don't get what we want out of you, you will never play for another NFL team!" Bad joojoo for Taylor. Bill Parcells is one man you do not want to get on the wrong side of.

1:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Patrick, that is a very intresting scenario you pointed out. I never thought of it that way but you sold me. You're right, where else would Cole hear that from? NYScott

1:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with Patrick on this matter. Since Jason's favorite coach left (Satan), he has been bad blood in the locker room. He didn't buy into the CaMueller Era and was a vocal critic of it.

The new TunaFish are trying to establish a new "culture" from top to bottom of the organization. The only way to do that is to get rid of the bad mouthers and belly whiners who think THEY run the team. And Jason has morphed into that person in the past couple of years.

It seems to me that trading Jason makes tremendous sense: You get value for him, you get extra picks, and you rid the locker room of its prima dona and pseudo leader. And it gives Sparano a chance to determine the new leadership on the team, rather than have Jason dictate it to him.

Ken in San Diego

2:21 PM  
Anonymous Aphinsfan said...

Yes I also agree..but from the flipside of this ...we will be effected negatively if the rumors continue. Pace said Friday and I quote "I would love to line up on the other side of Jason Taylor" so if JT himself leaked this wicked story to conjur up a higher value for himself I'm done with him and his glorious Dolphins career. Pace sounded to me like he was looking forward to playing on our Defense with JT. He deserves better I keep hearing that statement...well then what do we as the loyal fans deserve alot better than this whacked out story I keep hearing!!!!

2:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since when is JT a bad mouther or a whiner?

He had major issues with Cam Cameron last year.

It sounds like almost the entire locker room had issues with Cam.

Doesn't that tell you that the problem last year was probably Cam and not JT?

There's a reason why he was fired after one year, guys.

2:31 PM  
Blogger David said...

Oh, and screw Parcells if he has a problem with JT being on dancing with the stars.

I think Michael Strahan showed the entire world this year that missing training camp doesn't matter if you're a veteran player.

2:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tuna is farting diesel fuel. He'll have some reason to bail in a hurry two seasons from now and all his chums he brought over will disappear with him.

2:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This last post proves why we need an age limit in here. No one under the age of 20 has anything intelligent to say so they resort to negativity and name calling. Kick the kids out!

2:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JT has never done anything but work his butt off for this organization, so all the negative talk is stupid right now. He might even pick up a new spin move to get to the quarterback with his new dance gig, so lets just let this play out.

2:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey anonymous above, yeah like your idea...censorship. why not just adopt the iranian flag while we are at it. let's say, in order to blog you must be a white male between 25 and 50 married to a woman who never shows her face in public. good call.

2:53 PM  
Anonymous B-Man said...

That's exactly right Fox. And for all of you guys that start scurring like ants on a sidewalk that just found a spilled Coke think it over before your next panic attack.

Fox's opening copmment underscores the purpose of a number of the rumors you see floating out there (and yes, I'd call most of the floaters). There are LOTS of people who stand to benefit from spawningf these floaters.
Q. Gee, B-Man who could that be?
A. I'm glad you asked that Mr. Fly-off-the-handle fan. That would include agents, opposing teams and fish wrap sports rags, search engine web site masquerading as juournalistic enterprises and sports networks that throw enough crap at the wall that once in a while some of it sticks. Hell even my broken clock is right twice a day.

Just because you read something on the Internet doesn't make it true. Case in point: 2+2 = 5. There ... get it? If not - perhaps it is time to consider and institution of higher learning that engenders critical thinking.

3:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys think it was a coincidence that JT got the dancing gig only a week AFTER Zach got cut. He did this to get back at the 'Fins. And if his camp leaked this out while Pace was being courted, he can stay in LA for all I care.

3:08 PM  
Anonymous Jon said...

If your so called 'leader' rather be in Hollywood and on 'dancing with the stars', rather then in Miami getting ready for a new season, under a new regime, do you really want him on the team anyway? Obviously his heart is in another place now, and once you loose your passion for the game, your done. Time to pack it in JT. After all, you've always said you are an 'entertainer' rather then a football player. So learn the cha-cha and entertain us. I wish you would have taken a page from your brother in law, and been a little more down to earth. Mingle with the fans and act like you wanted to be at those fan appreciation days rather then walk around with your $1000 dollar aviator lenses on and count the minutes until you could drive away in your Lambo. Im not trying to hate, and Im not saying this guy isn't talented and didn't accomplish alot of great things for the Dolphins, because he did. But I'm not going to be sad when he goes like I was, and every Dol-fan was when Zach left, because Zach represented the average guy just living the dream. JT Never got that.

3:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Parcells wanted to trade Jason Taylor. Now, that some idiot has leaked that information out, there goes any potential offers. I agree with Patrick, and Ken in San Diego. Who's to say that it wasn't Jason himself who leaked out this information? Jason has been having bouts of verbal diarrhea since Saban left. His brother in law played "good soldier" during the short lived Cam Cameron/Randy Mueller Era, while Jason ran off at the mouth criticizing the team's offseason moves.

Coach Parcells may have just laid down an ultimatum for Jason. "You play here, or you don't play anywhere." What really sucks is that I can't believe I'm typing these kinds of things about JT. Jason used to be a lockeroom role model and leader. Now, he's become a Hollywood primadonna. Jason has brought a lot of this negativity onto himself. It hurts when I have to type and say these kinds of things about a player who I adored for 11 seasons.

3:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wake up all you man lover fans blogging here like teary housewives. Feeling sorry or pity or disappointment or anything for JT or Zack or any other pro athlete is plain stupid. These guys get paid MILLIONS to ENTERTAIN, yes, sports is the entertainment industry, and whether their team sucks or their coach sucks is irrelevent, they get paid to play, and make in one year more than most of you make in a lifetime, so the only soap opera is your pitiful empty life that has nothing going on beyond action hero worship. Be a fan, fine...not some pathetic loser weaping for someone who has in 9000 times better than you....delph

3:50 PM  
Anonymous Chase said...

so does anyone know whats the deal with calvin pace??? didnt he vistit with the jets yesterday? i havent heard anything on him for awhile now

4:55 PM  
Blogger dolph1911 said...

JT will be playing for us this year and unlike the last regime, will see his play count for wins. Parcells is making this team competitive NOW and younger. JT may only have a few years left,but he can still play ala strahan. We are going to run the ball to set up the pass. Rebuilding a team does not mean everyone has to go and really the moves Parcells has made is creating competiton, which is what you want.

5:32 PM  
Blogger Ron in Charlotte said...


I read on the NY Daily News Online's Jet's blog that Pace was offered in the Neighborhood of $20M guaranteed.

Somehow I doubt he got the same offer from Miami, but I am sure his agent will inform Miami of the Jet's offer and make a decision. I think at this point we need to sign this guy but he had one breakout year. I don't know. We did well in avoiding that kind of spending. They are expecting a decision sometime today.

I think what matters to me most right now is the Jets NOT getting him, therefore we have to pay him. I would support it just to keep him away form those less-than-human cretins.

I agree though, it has been deathly quiet on the subject today.

And regarding the Taylor fiasco...Jason Cole DID NOT make that up. Cote was in his blog mocking Yahoo! Sports. Cole was the best thing the Herald ever had in the Dolphins area. Cole is a standup journalist who played a major part in breaking BALCO. Do you really believe TUNA on this one? Cole wouldn't just publish that. He is well connected. Cote is just jealous and still reeling because we didn't sign David Carr.

Remember earlier when Mortenson came on the air and said the Fins want Matt Ryan? DId anyone REALLY believe that?

Seems like Mort, who I think is one of the best insiders out there, is being used by Parcells as a puppet to do damage control.

Why would Cole just say this? Makes no sense.

Then all of a sudden all of the Miami writers, who have almost no access top this fortress which is tighter than Saban's lockdown, are discrediting and saying yes all of our sources are telling us that is not true. What did anyone expect Parcells to do, confirm Coles story?

There may not be atrade now, but it is because Parcells has to save face, but just know, Cole was telling the truth.

7:23 PM  
Anonymous finheavenblows! said...

All I know is that Cole says Taylor will be traded and Parcells is telling Armando he won't be. I gotta go with the Tuna on this one. If he lies, then I'll view him like Nick Saban. But I believe a man until he gives me reason not to.

7:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, Ron, before your man-crush on Cole gets out of hand, I'll tell you this: Cole worked for the Sun-sentinel for a lot of years in the 1990s while Salguero was working for the Herald. And Armando would clean his clock. So take that for what it is worth.

7:29 PM  
Blogger Ron in Charlotte said...

Ok, but why would cole just make that whole story up? I agree that Tuna told Armando this and he is reporting it, but you have to look at Tuna's motivation for doing so. With Pace leaning this way and being quoted a saying he wants to line up with Taylor, his could throw a monkey wrench in Tuna's plans. It also may affect the shroud of mystery about our pick.

Now Tuna may keep Taylor because the damage is done or he may trade him later and say the offer was too good and we wanted to give Taylor his chance.

I am not discreditng Armando but every other paper has sources suddenly defending what Tuna said. Sounds like damage control. Again Cole has nothing to gain by making up a story like that.

And we can all agree that Armando does a great job, but Darlington can't compare to Cole.

7:40 PM  
Anonymous ceed said...

To Ron in Charlotte, I don't see how the Jets could afford to give Pace 20 mil guranteed after signing Faneca to the highest contract for an O-linemen in the history of the nfl. There's no way they can give him the money they did Pace that big salary you mentioned Ferguson and Revis the big contracts they have for being early picks and then draft at number 6 and sign that player. There is no way in hell they have that much cap space. So there is no way in hell Pace signs with the Jets

7:52 PM  
Blogger Ron in Charlotte said...

The Jets DID offer him that much. Guaranteed money doesn't mean signing bonus. The jets can do it. Or they wouldnt offer it.

8:38 PM  
Anonymous ceed said...

Guranteed money means he gets that much no matter what, I just don't see how they have that much cap space. if they sign him then there's no way they'll be able to sign the 6th overall pick to his rookie contract. My buddy who's a Bills fan told me they're reporting in Buf that they've reached a tentative agreement with Bryant Johnson so I guess i'll stop pushing for us to sign him and watch quietly as he tears us up like Robert Royal always does. Not sure why we can't stop Royal, but every single time we play them he kills us.

9:04 PM  
Anonymous MartinK said...

To Ron in Charlotte... I did some espionage on Jets blogs earlier today as well and they said they had an "excellent chance" to sign Pace. And they did say it was for around $20 mil in guaranteed money. The Jets blog actually had a profile on their targeted free agents and Pace's profile was listed on 2/17. They were planning on trading Vilma since then and were targeting Pace. As I said earlier, Parcells uses Mortensen to get what he wants. He used Mort to get the 'Fins to up the ante when Parcells told Mort that he couldn't see anything getting in the way of him joining Atlanta. He uses Mort for leverage - period. This is no different. He wants to keep the public thinking that we want to keep JT and that it would take a very good offer for us to trade him. People should back off Ron in Charlotte and stop being naive about Parcells - He has a history of misleading people through the media. I'm not doubting the man's football IQ. But you're naive if you think he has plans to keep JT around, especially if he's offered adequate draft pick compensation.

9:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The New York Daily News is reporting that Calvin Pace is in New York and that the Jets have offered him the same 20 million the Dolphins did and that he has a very good chance of signing with them.

9:48 PM  
Anonymous Chase said...

Do you guys have the sense that calvin is waiting to see what happens with jason taylor before he signs anything.. But the longer and longer that we dont hear calvin pace signing with us, the worse chance we have that he will sign with us i feel. Jets are being very active this offseason and are having a good couple of days. I have a bad feeling we wont see c. pace wearing a dolphins jersey next year. I wish whoever wrote about jason taylor woulda just kept their mouth shut.

10:12 PM  
Blogger Arturo said...

Jason Taylor will retire or be traded, what difference that's it make. I love the guy, I appreciate all he's done for the Dolphins, and I'll remember him as one of the best defensive players to ever don a Dolphins jersey; but in the end he's set for life and Hollywood is calling, so he'll still make his millions; life must go on. Salguero, I'm a transplanted Floridian, living now in northwest Georgia and tried to listen to 790 the ticket on the internet but was having a hard time, audio was coming and going. I can tell you this: I like what the Dolphins are doing so far with FA, they did not break the bank and have plugged some holes in the team. Everybody wanted to give Cameron and Mueller the benefit of the doubt, but won't do the same for Parcells and company, give me a break, are you kidding me. McCown is just the back up, that means the Dolphins think of Beck as the No. 1 QB or they will draft a QB win the 2nd, 3rd or 4th rounds. Now everything points as Jake Long with the 1st pick if we keep it, anyway there are other OL in the draft that will be at least good, so let's wait as you predicated waiting for Cameron and Mueller. In the end people this is only a game it's not a life or death situation, so get a grip. GO PHINS!!!!!!!!!!

10:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JT is GAY!!!!!!! pace is signing with the jets tomorrow morning.

10:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Both the Sun-Sentinel and the Palm Beach Post have "news" articles already on their sites, dedicated to the false reporting on JT. Why hasn't The Herald put any articles correcting that other than this blog? Very Fishy!

"The latest report is just another example of journalistic irresponsibility,'' Parcells told the Sun-Sentinel Sunday evening.

10:41 PM  
Blogger Ron in Charlotte said...

According to the NY Daily news...

"Cards OLB Calvin Pace did, in fact, conclude his Jets visit. From what I hear, he went home to Atlanta to mull his decision. Apparently, it’s the Jets or the Dolphins, although he’s considering a trip to the Bengals."

That is the latest I can find...

10:45 PM  
Anonymous ceed said...

Anybody else think we should bring in Maurice Williams? He's a great run blocking tackle so perhaps we could move him inside. If we bring him in as a tackle he could compete for the starting spot should we bring in a tackle at the draft and could provide some depth.

11:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JT getting $4-$10m to make movies in Hollywood?! Aaaannnnk, WRONG! I realize most of America thinks we here in Hollywood are crazy/stupid, but be honest; who's putting a non-actor into said-unknown-projects to the tune of $10m believing that Mr&Mrs America will put down $12.50per to see that? Call it "No Country For Old Football Players"!

12:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What do you think of this possibility? Use our first two pick on OTs and end up sith

LT - Jake Long
LG - V. Carey
C - Satele
RG - Smiley
RT - Cherilus (or other top tackle in the draft

5:41 AM  
Anonymous ceed said...

Moving Carey to guard doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. He's looked good at right tackle in the past and we should put him there. Moving him to guard could mess with his development and if we didn't do it when he was younger, then we definitely shouldn't do it now. With that said picking more than 1 offensive linemen in this draft makes all the sense in the world, but I think if we go Long with our first pick to play left tackle, then or next pick has to be corner since it is instantly a much bigger need. Cherrilus isn't bad and you can never have enough quality offensive linemen, but I can't see it happening

8:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>And we can all agree that Armando does a great job, but Darlington can't compare to Cole.

Are you high?

9:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>stop being naive about Parcells - He has a history of misleading people through the media.

This is a GOOD thing.

9:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a good thing because the only way I see this being a bad thing is if the Jets had leaked it to push Pace. Well it wan't worked so far. If Parcells is lying about this thank you for doing that. Because he is lying for our franchise. Much different from Saban's lies. All that Pacells is doing is saying something publicly that I'm sure has been said to JT in private.

If someone blows away the Fins with an offer I'd bet my Bernie Parmalee rookie card that they take it.

No one is going to make that kind of offer before the draft. Why would someone give us exact value if they can wait, draft, go through the second round of cuts, see if they get any injuries, do you see where I'm going here.

I think this was leaked by someone close to JT just so someone had to speak publicly from the Fins in support of JT, which they hadn't done since his TV announcement, the release of his brother-in-law and the beginning of free agency.

If this was the Jets Parcells is going to crush Tannenbaum. I know Tannenbaum and our front office have worked together previously which could mean lots of things.

I still think JT is with us for the long haul. One last thing...I'd have no problem with JT doing the dancing show. Its going to bring a lot of publicity to the Fins and these days any publicity is good publicity. I think those guys train the dancers real hard as well. Any of you who have seen the show have seen some solid physical performances. Lineman are all about footwork as well. What bette was to train.

This removes the chance that JT is injury during a team offseason activity. It protects the cap and guarentees that JT is healthy walking into this season whether it be for play or trade.

I'm still happy,

Ryan Sproviero

10:03 AM  
Anonymous Patrick said...

Cole was a good guy, I enjoyed many exchanges with him in the Q&A... I don't believe his story was false, I still believe someone in the Taylor camp, if not Jason himself, leaked the information to Cole.

Either way, the dancing with the stars thing just cannot be going over well with Parcells. Remember his QB rules that Romo had posted at his locker. Don't be a rock star QB. He likes football players not celebrities. It sends a bad message to the other players on the team. TEAM, has got no "I" in it. Sorry for the cliche but it fits.

On Pace... He scares me a little, he didn't perform his 1st 3 season then breaks through in his contract year. I know they changed the defense and all, but what happens when he gets the big FA contract? He's one of those guys who might be motivated by the dollar and once he has it...

10:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"let's say, in order to blog you must be a white male between 25 and 50 married to a woman who never shows her face in public. good call." - Anonymous - Hey Anonymous way above, here's a better idea: Maybe we could adopt the Soviet flag and anyone who has an opinion other than what you think they should have, they disappear to a life of frozen landscape and hard labor. Or maybe we just keep the American flag, and anyone who doesn't walk the narrow line of political correctness, and speaks their own mind, gets pubicly ostracized by all of those who think they know better. And then you could label them with such wonderful words as racist, hater, insane, fruitcake, etc. And then, out of fear they will all cower into submission and we will be as one. Yeah...great call! Wait a minute...that's already how it is. Never mind.

12:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's pretty simple!!!!JT for barber.

Pace went to the jet's thank god!

6:35 PM  

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