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Friday, November 02, 2007

The sting of the Culpepper saga is numbed

Realizing the Dolphins aren't playing this weekend, I'd like to update you on a topic that has been both popular and loathed on this blog: DAUNTE CULPEPPER.

Have you heard? He's being benched by the Raiders this weekend.

Let me repeat for all the Dauntephiles who thought the Dolphins made a major blunder by getting rid of him: He's riding the pine in Oakland now behind Josh McCown. Seems after Culpepper torched the Dolphins defense (who doesn't these days?) with three short running TDs, he came back to earth.

The Raiders have lost three consecutive games with Culpepper as the starter. He has thrown four interceptions in those three losses and fumbled SIX times. Oh, and he's been sacked 14 times in four starts, which is an improvement from the 21 sacks he took in four games last year, but is still way, way, way too many.

So what is the point? Simply this: The Dolphins had a choice of two bad choices this offseason.

They could have gone with an aging QB who had an injury history but at least knew Cam Cameron's offensive system. Or, they could have gone with a younger QB who didn't know the system, was still on the mend from a catastrophic knee injury, and who wasn't even close to healthy, as it turns out, until week 4 of the regular season.

They went with Trent Green but had they stuck with Daunte Culpepper, trust me, the Dolphins would be in no better shape today.

Now, for the record so you knuckleheads don't start making up facts that are not true: I applauded the Dolphins getting rid of Culpepper, and his total body of work so far this year proves he wasn't going to turn things around in Miami or get back to the Pro Bowl anytime soon. My only problem was the manner in which they got rid of him, promising to let him compete, letting him go on the field only to tell him he couldn't practice that one day in May, letting it get kind of messy. That's all.

Getting rid of him good. How they executed not so good.

Anyway, a lot of you thought Culpepper should have been here and took his performance against Miami in September as a cue for ripping the Dolphins. I hope those of you who had that opinion can rethink it now.

Bottom line is there was no right answer for the Dolphins if they intended to go with a veteran quarterback this year. Trent Green was the wrong call. Daunte Culpepper would have been the wrong call.

That should give you more confidence in Randy Mueller and Cam Cameron because now they cannot be blamed for cutting Culpepper. That should lessen the pain of the loss to Oakland in which Culpepper completed all of five passes. And it should numb the sting of the current QB situation.

Have a great weekend.

112 Comments:

Blogger Noah said...

Clearly it was the right decision to get rid of him. Never had a problem with that. Also I fully expected him to torch us this year once he landed with the Raiders. Karma always wins. We effed him over and he got his sweet sweet vindication. Unfortunately for him, doesn't look like he'll revert to his pro bowl form anytime soon, if ever.

11:25 AM  
Anonymous Melbourne Bob said...

Armando, you're right about DC but might not be right about Green. I firmly beleive that Green was brought in to help Beck and it's too soon to dismiss that effect.

Daunte was finished when he had the second operation. His key to success is mobility which he no longer has. Sad but true.

11:30 AM  
Anonymous Earl in IHB said...

good point Bob, Green might be doing more behind the scenes than he ever did on the field. There's even rumors of him becoming the next OC, so it might have been a good call bringing him here after all. As for DC, he was done the day the Vikings let Randy Moss go.

11:49 AM  
Blogger Marc said...

Wow, what an insightful blog....Here's a RELEVANT question Mandy. Assuming Ricky does NOT get reinstated. Do we get stuck with the $8 million loss, or is there any way to recoup? I'm guessing the NFL won't cover it, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't have an extra 8 mil laying around, so I'm guessin' we eat it. Is that assumption correct?

12:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, I've agreed that Daunte's been washed up since early last season. And I've said DC's performance against Miami was an aberration, looking good on paper when in fact he did very little in the game as a QB when, in fact, it was the running game that won the game.

I think Green was chosen this year because he is a Cam disciple, he is a teacher, and he is being groomed to be the next offensive coordinator, which, by the way, is not a bad idea, since Cam seems overtaxed in his dual role as coach and OC.

Ken in San Diego

12:29 PM  
Blogger posstty said...

letting culpepper go was the best idea think about if you kept him we would still suck but at least with trent we suck with a guy who is helping groom the qb of the future. do you guys really think that culpepper would have helped at all even if he could have tought him somthing he wouldnt he would have been like this in my team help yourself. he is a punk thug just look at the way he dressed on the sidlines last year shorts to his ankles. thank god he is gone.

12:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"They went with Trent Green but had they stuck with Daunte Culpepper, trust me, the Dolphins would be in no better shape today."

Actually the Dolphs would be in slightly better shape if they had kept Dante because we would still have a 5th round draft pick next year.

12:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At least Ted Ginn and his family scored their first TD.

12:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This blog was relevent, so STFU marc.

Beck rules, bitch!

12:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where are all you Cpep fans now??? Come on...come out come out wherever you are! Yet ANOTER helping of crow for all of you!

Some of us TOLD YOU he was DONE. Infact...Daunte was finished when he lost Moss and C. Carter. What's a shame is that the guy HAD some talent coming out of college, and had he been groomed by a better QB coach he might still be a top tier QB in this league, but after chuck and duck success in Minnesota he thinks he knows it all. What a shame...and a waste. Mando you're dead on with your article.

Ronnie Brown proved all you haters wrong before his injury...

Ted Ginn is starting to do the same...

And now...NOW...kid Beck is on deck...and Trent will be the QB coach this year...and possibly the OC next year.

We are MUCH better off as a franchise with Green here and not Daunte, and it was well worth a 5th rounder to have Trent here for those very reasons.

~JinVA

1:03 PM  
Anonymous finheavenblows said...

Thank you, thank you, thank you. Thank you, Armando for telling it like it is about Daunte. Thank you for setting the record straight about the transaction of our QBs. And thank you for posting a new blog to chew on.

1:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It was the right desicion then, and it's still the right desicion. Great stuff, Armando. Culpepper is washed up, and his career is likely over. His fat ego, won't accept a backup job. Yeah, we spent a fifth round pick on a quarterback who eventually went down with yet another concussion. But, let's be realistic. Who here thought that Trent Green was going to be the starter for more than one year? Anybody? Anyone? I didn't think so.

Trent Green was brought in here as a bridge to John Beck. He was brought here to mentor him, and groom him, and teach him the things that only a veteran NFL quarterback can show him. Culpepper would've been a horrible mentor. Too lazy, and too egotistical.

1:07 PM  
Anonymous dodgers42 said...

The whole scenario, as well as it has eventually worked out, would be SO MUCH easier to swallow had Culpepper just come back and had an average day. It is only annoying because it seems we got embarrassed because one person went into the game to make a statement and we tried to down play it so much we seemingly lost interest in the game.

1:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Right decision to get rid of Culpepper, I beg to differ. First of all, he may be struggling, but look at the dolphins. 0-8 and on to a 0-16 season, simply pathetic. And Culpepper did get the last laugh.

And where is the much heralded Trent "concusssion" Green, Oh yeah, he is on IR and look what is cost us, a draft pick. Tell me, who was the brains behind signing him???

We simply have been making too many stupid signings and mistakes, all you culpepper haters need to stop blazing the guy, that goes for the person who wrote this blog. Stop using him as a scapegoat for this pathetic season. Looks at who is really to blame, maybe the coach, or owner???

1:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dumbte Crapepper sucks. He is fat, lazy, selfish and stupid. He has midget hands, and fumbles way too much. He is a locker room poison, and Oakland is about to find that out after this latest benching. It's too bad that the Texans or Raiders game is being blacked out. Because just like last year during the Patriots game, you'll see Dumbte roaming the sidelines whining, crying, and pouting like a little brat!

He sucks, what do you idiot Culpepper supporters have to say about that now??? We told you guys, that his career was over. But, NOOOOOO..... "He is going to prove everyone wrong", "he is still a Pro Bowl QB", "He is going to light it up, you'll see." You guys were WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. Your beloved Culpepper is nothing but a big, fat, lazy, whiny, selfish, stupid FAILURE who STILL can't read defenses!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

1:14 PM  
Blogger mike said...

Trent Green was also finacially cheaper for us. Don't forget that. And we aren't going to have any shortage of draft picks next year so screw the 5th rounder they got. I can't believe CPep had fans here after last year. Forget his knee...he clearly lost his ability to make good decisions..He showed that his first game against the Steelers when he threw 2 picks in a row. Also don't forget the last QB to do that before he did it was....Daunte Culpepper with the Vikings shortly before he got injured.

1:20 PM  
Anonymous randy said...

I love it when I'm right. I was a daunte basher from day one. he never should've been signed, and I could care less how the Fins treated him on his way out. He is and was a BEATCH in the way he handled the whole thing himself, and I don't think the Fins owed him anything but showing him the door OUT. Honestly, I don't really even consider him having ever been a dolphin. Anyone who thought Culpepper was going to be anything close to a productive QB in this league doesn't know their ass from their elbow.

As to Trent Green....once again...it's great to be right. I said before the season started that they were pretty much bringing him in to get us through this year and then hire him as an assistant coach....looks like that's the road we're now on.

Now, all of you idiots who think you know football can bow down to me and worship the words I spew forth. Gee...I almost feel like a real reporter.

1:22 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

anonymous....This is relevant how? This is just regurgitated garble that's been reposted and repeated by everyone all year. It's a moot point. The article is useless and to make it worse everyone else just repeats what was said; which is what was repeated all season....All in all it's far too repetitious.

anonymous....This is relevant how? This is just regurgitated garble that's been reposted and repeated by everyone all year. It's a moot point. The article is useless and to make it worse everyone else just repeats what was said; which is what was repeated all season....All in all it's far too repetitious.

Get it, redundant....

Get it, redundant....

1:33 PM  
Blogger Ron in Charlotte said...

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1:55 PM  
Blogger j dizzle said...

Its funny that because the guy was benched by Oakland that it makes it right we released him???? All you DC haters need to get a grip cause that CONCUSSION case you guys where supporting is on the bench as well and did nothing to help or allow Miami to win any games!! AND MOST OF ALL IS GOING TO COST A DRAFT PICK for only four and half games of playing time!!! Yeah that makes sense!!!!!

Anyway to MARC to answer your question the Dolphins have already had a ruling that Ricky has to pay the 8 million back, this was so it dosen't count against the cap, they may never actually see the money , but it won't count against or cap space! This is why the Falcons did the same with Vick and his 20 million!!

1:58 PM  
Blogger Ron in Charlotte said...

Oh BTW, Marc, to be fair your question is ALSO relevant. Why?

Because a little birdy has told me that Ricky will NOT be reinstated.

It's over, so yeah, he's gone.

Wy do you care if Wayne has to eat that money? It sucks for him but that's they way it goes. It was better spent than Daunte's money last year.

Nice tie in, eh?

2:02 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

Ron, did I hurt your feelings in the past? Are you insecure because you write useless blogs and feel the need to defend Mandy? Do you use Jergens and take screenshots of Tomb Raider to stimulate yourself?

JDizzle, thanks for clearin' that up. So, basically, it won't count against the cap, but we lost the $$ anyway.

2:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Culpepper sucks, he truly sucks! This is just too funny. Yeah, Daunte you sure proved everybody wrong, didn't you? Stupid Culpepper supporters, don't expect any of them to drop by. They're too busy crying over their fallen hero. Man, most of us knew that this was coming.

When Culpepper had that devastating knee injury, most of us knew his career was over. He relies so much on his athletic ability, that he never bothered to learn how to properly read a defense. The man is a dumbass. An idiot, a moron, call him what you will. Daunte, was simply an athlete that played quarterback. Of course the fact that he was born with little girly hands didn't help either. No Moss, no success. His career as a starter is over. Nobody is going to pony up top dollar fo this colossal dope. Daunte, you need to fire your agent. He isn't doing you any favors.

2:07 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

It wasn't Wayne's $$ I was worried about. It was the team's (cap), and jdawg cleared that up.

They were BOTH terrible investments. But it's hard to beat losing 2 first rounders AND all that $$ for 25-30 non-consectutive games.

2:09 PM  
Blogger Ron in Charlotte said...

Nah Marc, I am just grumpy, ha ha. Don't take it personal.

It's fun to talk shit to people.

No, I don't use Jergens but you have to admit back in 96 that Lara Croft was pretty hot, even on PS1.

2:14 PM  
Blogger j dizzle said...

You know what else is funny is how DC gets ragged because he never produced anything in Miami, my question is why does Trent Green get so much praise from you guys he hasn't won NOT 1 game in a dolphins uniform, but let you guys tell it "HE'S SOOOOOOOO GREAT FOR THE TEAM"......... How????????

2:18 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

It's hard not to be grumpy these days as a Dolphin's fan...

Yeah, she was pretty hot...You should check out Rumble RosesXX for the 360, lol

JDizzle, I don't EVER recall strokin' on Green. I was calling for his head by week 3!

2:21 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

So, who else is for going with the Orange uniforms and the new Dolphin's stadium logo for the jerseys?

2:23 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

Oh, and a correction. Ricky played 44 games...

2:25 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

Suspended RB Ricky Williams will have to wait another week before hearing from the NFL about his potential reinstatement.
Williams applied for reinstatement on October 1, and commissioner Roger Goodell had 60 days from that point to make a decision. The original plan was for the league to hand down a ruling after Week 7, but that didn't happen. Nov. 2 - 12:37 pm et
Source: ESPN Insider

2:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dainty Crapooper sucks. He is fat, lazy, selfish, and stupid. He can't read defenses, he takes too many sacks, throws too many INT's, and is a locker room poison. Crapooper is the biggest dumbass when it comes to NFL quarterbacks. He is one of the most selfish, and me first players in the NFL. He is worthless, and is garbage. I'm so glad that the Dolphins dumped his worthless dumbass.

Yeah, Trent Gren may not have done much as a player. Which sucks, considering the team gave up a draft pick for him. However, I think his value is truly going to come from him being a mentor and a coach on this team for years to come.

2:29 PM  
Blogger j dizzle said...

That was LAME!!! You spend money for coaches not Draft picks!!!!! That is the only contribution this guy is doing, and that makes it OK in your mind to spend a draft pick???

2:34 PM  
Anonymous notafan said...

Wow, just stumbled upon this blog. You guys must be critically bored in life to be going on about such pure drivel. As for the emotion, get over it, none of these highly paid athletes give a rats ass about your opinion or the 9 to 5 job you'll be stroking until you are 70. They are living the high life, you all might want to find something a little more rewarding to occupy your time. Peace.

2:40 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

So, exactly what does that make you for commenting???

2:41 PM  
Blogger mike said...

jdizzle, I don't have the stats in front of me..but I Trent Green put up way more points with the Offense than Daunte did in the first 4 games. Daunte had the 4th best defense in the league to bail him out though...Trent has one of the worst.

2:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The money Ricky owes never had anything to do with the cap, it was a return of the prorated portions of paid bonuses. As a matter of fact, not only does it not affect the cap, it really doesn't even cost WH anything, since the bonuses had mostly been paid by NO.

2:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dumbte Suckpepper was never a good quaterback. He was a good athlete, just a okay quarterback. Having a motivated Randy Moss will mak an QB look better than they really are. Dumbte was never anything special. He was never a "team guy" and it was always about Daunte. He has a piss poor work ethic, and has never bothered to learn the proper way to be a quarterback.

Dumbte always thought he could get by on his athleticism, and he got away with it for awhile. Now, that his athleticism is gone, he is completely worthless. He might as well hang it up. Lane Kiffin shoud've never brought Culpepper in, because now that he is a backup he is just going to be nothing but a locker room problem. Hopefully, this is the end of one of the biggest jokes of a career that I have ever witnessed.

2:50 PM  
Blogger j dizzle said...

One other thing it would've made alot of sense to wait until Trent was released and we could've got him for nothing!!! And please don't say he wasn't going to be released, because he was in the same type of situation as DC , they wouldn't let him practice with the team!!!!!!

So what you guys are saying is your OK with this guy because he could possibly be a coach,and because you feel he is mentoring Beck so well?? What a bunch of bull!!! You guys ripped DC because he couldn't win in Miami, now lets see that same passion begin for the ripping of Trent, he HASN'T WON, he haven't done ANYTHING for this team!!!!! Please explain what makes these two scenario’s different???

2:50 PM  
Blogger mike said...

I don't think its as catastrophic as you seem to think. We are loaded with some nice picks next year...so I will take the loss of a fifth rounder. Bottom line, I like Trent better than Daunte. He is a better quarterback and smarter to. Fifth rounder is nothing with the room we will have in FA and the draft picks accumulating. Lets just hope Beck doesn't come in and ruin it with a winning streak.

2:55 PM  
Blogger mike said...

jdizzle, I don't know them..but please go take a look at Daunte's 4 games as opposed to Trents. Did daunte ever even participate in anything that went over 16 points? Difference is teams werent averaging over 30 against us.

2:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Crapepper is a dumbass. He is a crappy quarterback, and an equally worthless human being. The guy fumbles too much. He couldn't hold onto a football, even if he was held at gunpoint. He's way too careless with the football, that's been his problem throughout his career. Now finally, FINALLY.... Teams are starting to wake up and take notice of his butterfingers. For a lot of years, Randy Moss covered up his massive deficiencies. Without Moss, Dumbte is exposed for the fumbling, bumbling, moron that he is. Hang up the cleats, and head back to Ocala, Dumbte. Your NFL career lasted a lot longer than it should have. YOU SUCK!!!

3:00 PM  
Blogger mike said...

we also gave up a 2nd rounder for Culpepper. Makes Trent look like a dollar store pick-up.

3:06 PM  
Blogger j dizzle said...

Oh there it is, the truth I've been looking for.......You guys are tooooooo hung up on your personal feelings!!

And to Anonymous

The bonus money had eveything to do with the cap. Why do you think teams would waste there time about money they won't get back if it didn't have anything to do with the Cap!! Why do you think we can't release Jason Allen right now, because of the guaranteed bonus money!!! You need to research a litte more before making a post!! Guaranteed bonus money is every players security net and it directly effects every teams Cap!!! The money New Orleans paid Ricky was from the contract he signed with them!! He got a new contract in Miami!!!!

3:22 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

How can you have a real salary cap if all you have to do is give a player a signing bonus to get around it?

Answer: Now we come to the tricky part. The signing bonus IS part of the player's salary. So it counts against the cap. When determining team and player salary, the signing bonus will be prorated over the length of the contract.

For example, if a player signs a four-year deal with a $1 million signing bonus, $250,000 of that bonus will count toward team salary for each contract year ($1 million divided evenly over the four-year contract is $250,000 per year). If a team releases a player, the unamoratized bonus money (the remaining prorated bonus money) counts immediately against the cap.

In our example above, if the player is released after Year 1, the remaining $750,000 (the prorated signing bonus money for years 2-4) counts against the cap in Year 2 -- even though the player is no longer on the team's roster.

3:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Man, you knew his dumbass was going to be benched eventually. Even in the win against Miami he didn't look good doing it. When your running game rushes for over 300 yds, any quarterback can look good. Such was the case for that dipshit Daunte. Culpepper is finished, done, finito, fin, stick a fork in him. His career is over. Culpepper is one of the more reckless quarterbacks in the NFL, he simply can't grasp the concept of taking care of the football.

The guy is just a total idiot. A selfish idiot, at that.

3:30 PM  
Anonymous Patrick said...

Those two catches by Randy Moss while double covered in the endzone against Miami were enough for everyone to see who made whom in the Culpepper/Moss tandem...

Stare down receiver, cut and run, chuck it up for grabs to Moss. Anyone who knows QB play would not argue for Daunte. I will say JinVA got it right about the wasted talent. If it weren't for Wannstedt I would say that Mike Tice is the worst coach in NFL history. To never teach Culpepper the intricacies of an NFL offense was a total disservice to him.

Picking Green was a calculated risk, these guys knew the risk and they got burned. The bottom line is that Green could assimilate the offense faster and more effectively then Culpepper.

I also dispute the handling of Culpepper and why everyone gets all bothered by it. The guy was whining, mopping around, acting like a freaking primadonna, if he would have not shown the airs, got in the filmroom (not the training room) and learned, Cameron would have kept him around. In the end Culpepper tried to undermine Cameron's authority and Cameron called him out in front of God and the world and told him to get off his football field. That single event gives me hope that Cameron might be the guy.

No one will dispute Culpepper's pre-injury physical talent. He was poorly coached, he was undisciplined, he put himself above the team and he was spoiled by an incredible talent named Randy Moss. Good riddance Daunte! I don't care if we go 0-16 I still wouldn't want you on my team.

3:31 PM  
Blogger Jacob said...

Normally I agree with you Armando and I have never posted on your blog before this. I agree we would probably still be 0-8 with Culpepper, however we would have one more draft pick. We traded that for Green. I never wanted Green on this team, not because I love Culpepper but because I want as many draft picks as possible and Green has never won anything just like Culpepper has never won anything. Sure would be nice to have that draft pick now that our franchise finally has a coach and mindset to build from the draft. Hmmm who does that remind me of? Could it be the Indianapolis Colts? Is anybody aware that they only have 4 players on their 53 man roster that they did not draft.

3:32 PM  
Anonymous fake kurt angle said...

Daunte Culpepper is lazy, selfish, stupid, and prone to turnovers. Daunte Culpepper sucks! Oh it's true, it's damn true!

3:50 PM  
Anonymous NYScott said...

Jdiz, lay off the coffee man. We know you are trying to make a point so you don't need to use 30 exclamation points to do it. Anyway you're arguing back and forth with people over Culpepper and Green. I don't understand why this matters to anyone seeing how neither of them will ever QB for the fins again. It's a wash at this point. We gave up a 5th rounder but gained salary cap space to sign a free agent who could replace the fifth. It could be viewed that way OR as other posters stated we gave up Culpepper and a fifth rounder for a guy who can coach and groom our QB of the future and possibly stay on as the OC. He already knows the system and can run it so that Cam can concentrate on all sides of the ball while knowing he has someone he trusts watching over the Offense when he can't. You know my opinion has always been that Green is a better leader than Daunte. You're putting way too much importance on one late round draft pick don't you think? Considering we will be 25 million under the cap and have three picks in the first two rounds next year losing the fifth rounder will not break us.

3:53 PM  
Anonymous Patrick said...

Dizzle I normally agree with your opinions but I don't on Culpepper. The guy was just not that great of a QB. How does a team go 15-1 and lose in the 1st round of the playoffs? How does a team go 8-1 and end 8-8? Poor coaching, but that only explains half of it.

You put a spy on Culpepper and you roll a 2 deep zone to Moss. Tice could never figure it out. If Duante could have stepped through even a 2 receiver progression he could have beaten that defense. That's why I don't like him. Plain and simple.

4:09 PM  
Anonymous jed said...

Funny that you wait till Daunte stumbles before making a new comment on the Dauntegate.

Yes, Daunte scored five touchdowns against the Dolphins, 2 via air, 3 by outrunning the Dolphin defense on a repaired knee, and only one QB has done any better against the pathetic defense TD-wise and that was Tom Brady.

For sure, Daunte's performance since shutting up you Daunte haters has been less than stellar, for sure he is not the same All-star QB he was prior to his knee injury, but are you really serious when you say Daunte would not have been any better than the doomed Trent? Daunte can still play, and can still play for some years to come. You might also consider the serious morale damage done to the Dolphin roster because of the way Dolphin management JERKED Daunte around. For sure, some of Daunte's most loyal supporters, people like Zach T. and Jason Taylor, had to lose all measure of respect for the new regime after seein how they mis-treated Daunte. Morale, motivation, inspiration, call it what you want, but Cam is a douche bag who has done the opposite of motivating his team.

Yes, Daunte may be suffering through a momentary setback, but I hope you will have the courage to comment again when he will scores 5 touchdowns the next time! Facts are, Daunte is still a player in the NFL and as many of us predicted, Trent "Srcambled Eggs" Green is on injured reserve and headed for the NFL alumni club. Obviously, choosing Trent over Daunte was a big mistake then...Pretty easy to see that.

4:12 PM  
Blogger mike said...

Jed,

I hate to tell you...but Daunte won't even have a job next year unless he decides to be a career 2nd or 3rd guy. He only signed a 1 year contract with the Raiders..They won't keep him unless Jamarcus dies...and maybe not even then. So he's got 8 games (as a back-up) to throw those 5 TD's. Good luck with that.

4:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nice teeth armando - they have whitners now. Your radio show is worse then your reporting

4:28 PM  
Blogger j dizzle said...

NY I haven't had any coffe it just gets under my skin when people on this blog really want us to think that Trent is or was a better option over DC! They are both garbage in my eyes, but I'm not gonna sit here and just rip the guy because I don't like him! Like many of you have with no REAL facts to back-up your post!!!

Anyway as you stated it really doesn't matter now cause neither one will ever suit up in Dolphins uniform BOTTOM LINE!!!!!

Patrick good points, I love to see FACTS!

4:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Forget about DC. I want to know something about the defense. Will Lance Schulters help the Safety position? Do we think that Jason Allen will step up and start along side of Yeremiah Bell next year? Can the offense continue to grow, so we can concentrate on the Defense this OFF-Season? Can we find a cornerback that can help? Do you think after this year, that Joey Porter will start to carry is weight (Contract weight) on this defense? Can we get Wes Welker back? NCFINFAN

4:29 PM  
Blogger j dizzle said...

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4:30 PM  
Blogger mike said...

Thinking about this I'm really puzzled Jed. Please elaborate as to how Daunte is gonna make this awesome return to glory. He's been benched with 8 games to go..and only got to start because of an injury to the #1 guy. Really. Do you really think any team will take him seriously as a starter next year when he was Benched for McGown. Who Jed? Who? You need to accept that his career is just about equal to Trents...or maybe more like Drew Bledsoe's. Ya, like Drew. Retired because he's got to much of an ego to be a #2 guy.

4:35 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

Anonymous, that was basically my original point. Can we have a blog about something relevant to the PRESENT/FUTURE of the team. Not some nanny, nanny, boo, boo, I told you so nonesense. I could write a blog that covers the mistakes this team has made with personnel that would take us all an hour to read, and Culpepper's saga (or lack therof) would hardly get a mention.

4:36 PM  
Blogger j dizzle said...

LOL nanny,nanny, boo, boo !!!! LOL

5:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ricky's bonus money has nothing to do with the cap because the Fins didn't pay it. Bonus money is spread out over the length of the contract, but when a player is traded/released, the remaining pro-rated bonus money is accelerated into the current cap year. So RWs signing bonus has nothing do to with MIAs cap because it has already counted against NOs. That's one of the things that made RW so cheap is that all MIA was responsible for was his base salaries (plus whatever performance bonuses were earned).

5:30 PM  
Blogger mike said...

but when theres nothing relevant going on nanny, nanny, boo, boo sure kills some dead time during the work day.

5:32 PM  
Blogger j dizzle said...

If Ricky's signing bonus had nothing to do with the cap what was the point of the Dolphins taking him to court and getting a ruling in thier favor that he has to repay 8 million dollars!!! You people need to research before you post because its obvious you don't know what your talking about!!!

Read Marc's post a few post up, his example is EXACTLY how signing bonuses work!!!!New Orleans had nothing to do with that 8 million Ricky still owes the Dolphins! Look at the Falcons why do you think they made it a point to get that 20 million back from Vick?? Because they don't want to have to take the cap hit for his bonus money! Its not that they think their going to get that back, its just you don't want to take the cap hit for it!! Why do you think we can't release Joey Porter he has 20 million in bonus money!!! If the Dolphins release him this offseason they will get a cap hit for the entire amount minus what has been paid this year!

Armando can you please shed some light on this so these folks will understand!

5:50 PM  
Anonymous Thosewhowannaknow said...

Poll Question -

Does J Fizzle knows what he's talking about or is he a rambling idiot?

6:25 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

Williams officially returned to the Dolphins on July 24, 2005, paid back a percentage of his signing bonus and completed his four game suspension for substance abuse.

So, if he wasn't responsible for a cap hit, then WHY would he pay some back after he returned the first time?

TRIVIA:
HBO's Inside the NFL had a skit about Ricky trying to return to the Dolphins. It featured him trying to raise $8.6 million, avoiding drug tests, and even asking Dan Marino to return with him.

8:18 PM  
Anonymous Your Greatest cYn said...

j dizzle said...
That was LAME!!! You spend money for coaches not Draft picks!!!!! That is the only contribution this guy is doing, and that makes it OK in your mind to spend a draft pick???


Uh I do believe the Bucs gave up a draft pick or two to get a head coach (Gruden)...and also if Im not mistaken the Jets might have given up something to get Parcells...So do some homework man...For real...

8:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, sure Jed. Just keep thinking he's going to have this amazing comeback. Nobody is going to pay Daunte the kind of money he once made, because he is simply not the same quarterback that he once was. Without Moss, he is nothing. Without Moss, he is not a big play quarterback. If it wasn't for Moss, Daunte may not have had the career that he's had.

Daunte's been exposed for what he is. A slow, turnover prone, washed up hasbeen. Unless Daunte, finally decides to learn how to play the position of "quarterback" instead of being an athlete first. You'll never see Daunte Culpepper do a meaningful thing in the NFL ever again. He's had a better career than he should've had, he was overrated from the beginning. He was never as good as was advertised.

10:03 PM  
Anonymous Harry Potter said...

Armando... you're awesome!! I like you more with every passing day! Talking about Culpepper precisely during the bye week! Hahahaha! Great! Your capacity of being cynical has no boundaries!

Now... I'm contesting in the pig skin stuff, and we're tied (70 right picks). There I signed up as Lutzzz... so check it out.

A hug, man.

11:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Armando, I beg to differ with you. You did in fact suggest that Culpepper should be the starter this year in your 7/16/07 article, and I quote:

"Daunte Culpepper should be the starter this year for the Dolphins, not Trent Green. I don't want to get ahead of myself, but I see the Dolphins winning at least 15 games this season. Anything short of an AFC championship appearance will be a shock and totally unacceptable."

The facts speak for themselves.

3:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heh. And the only reason Culpepper lasted this long was because McCown was hurt.

Remember, McCown won the job outright. And Kiffin maintained that publicly during Culpepper's run.

8:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Now, for the record so you knuckleheads don't start making up facts that are not true"

Easy fella

8:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well if we keep Culpepper we have had a 5th round pick and couldn't have had less wins.

8:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's obvious Trent Green was brought in to mentor John Beck. What is not so obvious is Dante Culpepper was bought into Oakland to mentor Jamarcus Russell.
Green and Dante are really reflections of each other, although they probably don't realize it.
It's called, The Creation moves in mysterious ways.

9:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dumbte Crapepper sucks. He is fat, lazy, selfish, stupid, and can't read defenses. The only reason Culpepper started those games in Oakland was out of necessity. This past week when Lane Kiffin opened up the job between him and Josh McCown, McCown beat Culpepper outright. Culpepper's gimpy dumbass is back where he belongs, right on the bench.

Never have I seen such a selfish, self absorbed, me first, quarterback. Man, he sucks!

9:19 AM  
Anonymous Ramsterone said...

Great post, thank you.The people who wanted Duh'ta were mostly black who wanted a black QB.When Saban was looking for a QB I saw post's for Quincy Carter,Kordell Stewart,Akili Smith,Shaun King,and Aaron Brooks.And now that Michael Vick is done I've seen post's for the Dolphins to pick him up.These are the same people who want a all black NFL.What they don't understand is that most whites would not watch,something the NBA has found out and is trying to change.

9:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

J Dizzle and all of you arguing against Trent...

Do any of you agree that Trent is a better option than Daunte for mentoring Beck? What "value" would you place on that if you do? (If, for some reason, you DON'T agree with that...you need therapy) Trent cost us a 5th rounder, but saved us what...4-5 mil on the cap over Daunte??? On top of that Trent was able to come in and get acquainted with the players and the organization to see if he would consider being a QB coach or OC. Ala Steve DeBerg...remember when he was a coach and then that year signed to PLAY because the Chiefs had a rash of injuries? (I believe it was the Cheifs...) A fifth rounder, saved cap space, mentor for kid Beck, potential coach in the future, and harmony in the locker room are well worth it!

Patrick...nice to see someone on here posting some serious knowledge of Daunte and his time at the Vikes. People seem to forget the talent DC had around him there. Carter, Moss, Reed, R. Smith, and a FANTASTIC offensive line. Reed leaves...Carter retires...R. Smith retires...and the Moss is sent to Oakland because of his feud with DC. (That's a progression...not all in one year.) So once DC is the "man" in MN with none of them around...how's he do? Now remember...this is PRE-injury. He throws 6 TD's against 12 picks...(2005) and the Vikes start 2-5. OH...ad by the way...game one he throws 3 picks (one returned for a TD) and fumbles twice with both of them lost in a loss to the Bucs. Game two he throws 5 picks in a beat down loss to the Bengals. Game three he throws three TD's in a win against the real Saints...who were horrible then. Game 4...1 TD against 2 picks w/2 fumbles (1 lost) in a loss to the Falcons. Bye week 5. Game 6 he throws 2 pics in a beat down by the Bears. Game 7 (his last) they are down 14 to nothing at the half and he rallies them with 2 TD's and one fumble to a win against the Packers. He started in game 8 and was hurt in the first quarter in a beat down by the Panthers.

The Vikings saw the writing on the wall...they had just shipped out one of the most prolific receivers of all time thinking Daunte needed to "make it HIS team"...and as it turned out...Moss made Daunte...not the other way around.

What a shame the Vikes weren't smarter...if they had been they'd realized that Moss made every QB look better than they were. Daunte, Randal, Jeff George, Brad Johnson...he made them ALL look like pro-bowlers.

Patrick is right...Tice is most responsible for not developing Daunte better. Daunte WAS an athlete...but was never taught proper mechanics, made to learn how to read a defense, or show how to be a leader. WHY? Because he had to be around guys like Randal and J. George early in his career. Could you pick two worse role models? Maybe...but it wouldn't be easy. Randal survived on his athleticism...and George was one of the biggest "ME" players of our generation.

All sad...but TRUE. Daunte was a waste of a 2nd rounder. But THIS coach wasn't going to let him do to Beck...what was done to him.

Hence...Trent Green. A true pro in ever sense of the word.

Those of you who don't see it...need to wake up.

~JinVA

10:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dumbte is a fat, lazy dumbass. He is a worthless quarterback and a worthless human being. One of the most overrated quarterbacks that's ever played the game. He really, really sucks.

10:57 AM  
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11:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How's the knee, now Daunte? Apparently it's not good enough for you to keep your starting job. Good luck tryring to convince a team that you're still starting quarterback material. My suggestion is that you get a decent agent, and then maybe some team will be dumb enough to put you under center again. However, your current agent sucks and is total dumbass. Oh wait, YOU ARE THAT DUMBASS!!! You suck Culpepper! I hope you continue to fail!!! That's what you are, a fat, lazy, egotistical, stupid, FAILURE!!!

11:14 AM  
Anonymous NYScott said...

Jinva, thank you for being the voice of reason. Your dead on with your assesment of the situation and you make excellent points. It's why no one argues with you. Keep up the good work, I enjoy reading your posts.

11:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YOU ARE SUCH A DOPE AND A KISS ASS CAMERON AND MUELLER BOTH SUCK THE DOLPHINS NEED A PARCELLS AS THE GM OR COWHER AS THE COACH IN 2008 OR THE TEAM WILL CONTINUE DOWN THIS SAME SORRY PATH BRYAN IN OHIO!!!!!!!

12:07 PM  
Anonymous southflaboy said...

Actually stupid anonymous @ 3:34 AM, I now understand why Armando says people misquote him. This is what he wrote on this very blog on Friday, May 04, 2007, several months before you misquote him:

When all said, done Trent Green will be starter
Today has been a very revealing day for anyone wondering who will be the Dolphins starting quarterback in 2007.

In case you're wondering, it will be Trent Green.

Yes, this takes into account the fact Daunte Culpepper is happy and hopeful because he is feeling no pain in his twice surgically repaired right knee and expects to test it in the Dolphins' next minicamp June 8-10.

Yes, this takes into account the fact rookie John Beck showed an outstanding arm in minicamp practices today.

But mostly it takes into account the facts. And these are the truths as I know them.

Trent Green has a contract in place with the Dolphins. He has been told he can come to Miami and be the starter for one or two years, depending on how he holds up. His quarterback coach in KC (Terry Shea) is now Miami's QB coach. His QB coach in Washington years ago (Cam Cameron) is now Miami's head coach. And the offense the Dolphins are going to run this year?

Green knows it better than several of Miami's offensive coaches.

If you're still not convinced of what I'm saying, I recommend you navigate (how's that for a techie word?) to www.810whb.com/shows/default.asp?id=btl. That will get you to a 35-minute interview Green did with KC radio station WHB on Friday.

During that interview Green openly talks of his relationship with Cameron and his talks with the Dolphins in recent months. He says he has convinced Carl Peterson to at least talk to the Dolphins this week after the sides stopped talking during the draft. The sides are talking about trading Green for a sixth round draft pick.

And he says Miami is the best fit for him.

"I want to be able to finish my career as a starter in a manner I've earned," Green said.

The reason Miami is such a good fit for him? He's been promised the starting job.

And that means Culpepper, despite his improving health, despite his personal optimism, despite all the signs things are looking up, will be either released or traded when Green comes on board. Now I'm not saying this is what the Dolphins should do. I'm saying this is what they're going to do."

And they did exactly what Armando said. Solid.

1:25 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

Let me tell you guys a little story...So, I was at a bar with my girl and her girlfriend last night. I decided to wear my throwback Marino jersey. which the D.J. noticed. He began by asking who would win in the Pats vs Colts game (of course the Pats got the better response), but then he started on the Dolphins....."I know one thing, the Dolphins won't win ONE GAME this year.", "The Dolphins suck", "Marino never got a ring", "Favre just broke his record", and so forth. The Dj spewed venom for a good 10 minutes. All I could do was look over and Raise my arms in vain. I don't mean to sound like a little bitch, but this was honestly one of the most humiliating moments in my life (and that's saying a lot considering I was in the Army 6.5 years!). I just want to say "Thank you" to WHOMEVER is responsible for the current state of the team. "Thank you!"

1:53 PM  
Blogger mike said...

got yourself to blame there marc. don't fly the colors @ 0-8 if you can't deal with whats coming.

2:32 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

I suppose. I mean, we've had a few rough years and I could deal, but it was pretty bad....

2:57 PM  
Anonymous Dolfan in SF said...

It looked bad for the Dolphins when they unloaded that fat contract they gave C-Pep when he smacked & exposed our grade F defense.

After that, it was the same old Dante Culpepper. I feel the fans would have screamed bloody murder if we still kept him. Same old story.

It was more positive to unload him even though we were wrong about Trent Green. The situation now is that we have less salary cap headache which will help the team rebuild (not to be confused with tweak, retool, or reload) a team that's in shambles.

Zonk made a point that when their Dolphin team was losing bad in '69, they had the hope of becoming a good team (and it did).

The situation today is similar to not being a good expansion team (circa 1966). This team has to find out if there are keepers from this draft class. That means playing John Beck (even if he makes rookie mistakes) to see if he can cut it & develop. If he or Lorenzo Booker or these other guys are bust, then at least this team knows what they have to do.

3:09 PM  
Blogger Armando Salguero said...

Ladies and Gentlemen, a little reminder about this blog: It's only a blog, but it's connected to a family newspaper. So don't use language on here you'd use on a basketball court. Use language you'd use around a 5-year-old. OK? Please.

4:15 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

Censorship sucks!

4:26 PM  
Anonymous shula_guy said...

Everyone should of paid more attention of the drama surrounding him in Minny.

The writing was on the wall when him and Randy had thier falling out. Randy Moss is egotistical and arogant. He was also physically gifted. The very same thing can be said of DC when it comes to throwing a deep ball accuratly or scrambling his way out of a broken up play. His decission making ability and keeping the ball protected have always been a topic of scrutiny.

Given the fact that there was so much tension between him and his head coach in Minny, and the seriousness and the status of his season ending injury. It was absolutely irresponsible and inaept of our front office to agree to the terms of the contract that we entered into with him and Minny. They both got the better of our team on that deal.

In retrospect Joey should of been our QB on opening day and should of been played as many games as possible before we would of been forced to give up a better pick to Detroit.

Daunte and the Dolphins both lied to themselves and wanted to believe he ready to go in sept so badly that they deluded themselves into believing he was ready prematurly. Bopth sides should of known better. Water under the bridge now.

When he was benched and DC put on his little tantrum performance, I think was when Saban realized he misscalculated the effects of bringing DC into town with him. Yes the Dolphins needed a QB but this guy clearly isnt the leader we needed.

Daunte Culpepper is not a team player. He is all about himself. That is not the mark of a great leader.

All of this played out in the media and was pretty clear to anyone paying attention to it.

In comes Cameron and begins his assesment of this offense. I think the decission on DC was made by Cam as soon as he got here. The problem was you cant cut someone who is injured. Cam had to wait for him to medically cleared or it would of finacially buried this team.

He never said DC would be a part of any competetion that was held. He was on record saying that he would not decide on an injured player which he did not do offically until after he was cleared medicaly. Probably somewhat deceptive by Cam and not really that nice of a way to of handled it, but imagine how DC would of reacted if he was told he was being replaced any earlier then when he was told. We all saw how he behaved and how he had no empathy for the Dolphins postion, could you imagine if he still held the leverage of being on the injury list as well. He would of taken our team to the cleaners to satisfy his spite.

The problem is what Cameron did to replace him. Going out and spending a small fortune and draft picks on another guy who has a questionable health status and is also destined to be released was another mistake. I think Trent was an upgrade over Dauntee in the sense of he has a better attitude of being a part of the team, but we are guilty of overpaying him just like DC. Our front office makes terrible choices.

Those of you saying there were no other options out there for veteran QB's. That is just wrong there were several others on the market last off season, the most notable probally is Jeff Garcia who went to Tampa and is playing is very well.

Im tired of hearing how Cam lied and never gave DC a fair chance etc etc etc..... I also challenge any of you to show me a single quote from JT or Zach saying they thought it was a mistake to release DC. I have yet to see one.

The raiders picking up DC and actually hanging onto to him was a shocker for me. I really believe that they were trying to use DC to pressure Russel into getting signed and into camp, which did not play out that way for them. If it had worked out as they planned I think he may of very likly found himself as Atlanta's QB this year, given the Vick circumstances. Instead since it took so long to get Russel signed they held onto DC in case Josh went down before Russel was ready to take over.

The major difference between the two camps that I see regarding DC and the Dolphins is DC made it very personal and ugly the dolphins kept it on a buiness level.

I wonder about the hearing too and the cryptic statment made by Cam that implied there was evidence of another team tampering and if they pursued signing him the Dolphins would pursue legal actions. I dont remember the exact quoite but I remember him saying something to that effect when he went public about releasing DC rather then going through the process of the hearing.

I'm amazed at how DC's signing here polarized our fans and divided them into two very bitterly opposing sides. For that reason alone I think it is one of the worst signing we ever made!

Before some of you decide to start accusing me of hating on him. I dont hate him nor do I wish him any ill will. I dont respect how he handled his situation and I dont root for him to have sucess but dont wish anykind of ill will on him either.

I was happy for the guy to come here and have a decent game even though I wanted our Dolphins to win but, when he decided to taunt the fans with his little onfield performances I lost any support I might of had for him. That was petty and classless. If I was Kiper I would of disciplined him in camp for such insultive and unprofessional behavior. The sad part is he disgraced himself more then anyone and he does not even he see it.

Armando I think you got the title wrong. The sting of the Culpepper saga is with the fans of his not the the Dolphin fans who wanted him gone. We dont need vindication we got what we wanted, the sting belongs to those who wanted him to stay here.

5:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I THINK WE SHOULD'VE STUCK WITH DAVID WANNSTEDT. HE JUST HAD A STREAK OF BAD LUCK, THATS ALL. THE TEAM COULD NOT POSIBLY BE WORSE. HECK, I'D COME BACK FOR ENOUGH MONEY AND A CUSHY JOB LIKE FINS HEAD COACH.

-- JIMMY JOHNSON

9:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think they made the right move on Culpepper, but one has to wonder why we traded Wes Welker instead of Chris Chambers. One also has to wonder why we allowed Randy Moss to go to a division rival instead of giving up a fourth-round pick for him ourselves. We allowed Moss and Welker to go to the Patriots, and now Brady is completing nearly 75% of his passes and is on pace to throw 60 TDs for the year. Oh, and they're on pace to go undefeated while we are on pace to go winless. Great job!

Imagine having Moss, Welker, Ginn, and Hagan? That's a pretty nice WR corp for a young QB like John Beck. Heck, perhaps Green would have fared better had he been given an arsenal of weapons like that.

10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's easy to answer...because Moss wouldn't have come here. He told the Raiders he'd ONLY redo his contract if he were traded to a contender, and he specifically said the Patsies.

That is why Moss wasn't pursued.

On top of that...we don't have a strong enough veteran presence in the locker room to handle a guy like Moss. He is every bit as difficult to handle as Daunte. As someone above mentioned. However...at least Moss still can bring it on the field...and Daunte can't. Face it...if you were a receiver and had no loyalty to a team...who wouldn't want to play with Brady or Manning?

Also...getting a 2nd and 7th for Welker was a DEAL. Sure I love Wes...he's a great player, but he's 5'9" and 190-ish...and a slot receiver. We need a true #1 first and foremost. I'm still holding out hope it will be Ginn. That Welker #2 allowed us to take Satele...and I'll take that trade considering how badly we've needed O-line talent. And if you've been watching the games...Satele is paying off BIG TIME.

Considering the state of our team...would you REALLY rather have a very good slot receiver who's at the peak of his career NOW (now when Beck's at his) or would you rather have a potential pro-bowl center to snap the ball to our QB of the future? (Can you say Dwight Stephenson? A second round pick in 1980 who was the best center I've ever seen...bar none!)

~JinVA

10:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Goodbye Cpep your career is done. The only thing he can aspire to be is a back up QB. Sorry to say it but yes another wrong move by the phins for bringing him in in the first place. I know the phins where hoping to get a draft pick for him but you know Cpep is so full of himself he won't even get an agent.

11:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Boy, shula_guy really hit the nail on the head. I mean, when one player can cause such a divided loyalty amongst fans, he has to be considered one of the worst signings ever. If not the worst signing in Miami Dolphins history. Apparently, Culpepper was more than just a locker room cancer. He was a cancer for Miami Dolphins fans. It's amazing how one player, albeit not a very talented player can cause such a rift between fans.

Daunte Culpepper is a poison. A poison, that divided the great Miami Dolphins fans. Thank God, that the poison has been flushed out.

12:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lets move past DC for now and look to free agency for next year.

Mando, Do you think there is a chance we could land Michael Turner from San Diego and/or Hall from Atl?

2:12 AM  
Blogger Kathleen said...

Marc,
Remember, Miami is not at a loss if Ricky were never to pay the 8 mil to them. They never paid it to him in the first place, New Orleans did. I still find it crazy that one team can sue a player for money that they never paid him.

2:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Typical. Armando is still rehashing dead issues (or they should be dead, anyway). They made the right move. Period! Move on.

Go Beck!

Go Dolphins!!!
DrumFinFan

5:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kathleen...I'm not positive, but I believe only a portion of the 8 mil was the Saints money. Does anyone have a lead on the breakdown of the 8 mil? I seem to remember quotes something to the affect of..."The Dolphins are ALSO trying to recoup a portion of the signing bonus paid to Williams by the Saints". I think it was some of what we paid, AND some of what they paid.

Here's the reason I FEEL the Phins are justified...because WE gave up two draft picks for Ricky...and collecting some of the Saint signing bonus is restitution for what we got as return on our investment. That's how I justify it in my mind. After what we gave up for as little we had him. It ended up two #1's right?

JinVA

8:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So here's a question for everyone. Let's say we get the #1 pick next year. (Which doesn't look like a stretch at this point...although the Lambs have the injury bug too.)

What would all of you prefer we take?

A. A left tackle?
b. A defensive tackle?
c. A corner?
d. Another QB?

In my eyes those are really the only positions I'd spend #1 money on. In fact...I'd say that we shouldn't take a corner #1 either unless there's a champ bailey coming out. Which I don't believe there is.

I'm leaning toward a franchise LT. Jake Long from Michigan is my first choice, and Glen Dorsey is my second.

What do all of you think?

~JinVA

8:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh...and before I get bashed...yes I know Dorsey is a DT!

~JinVA

8:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"FLUSH..." Good-bye Culpepper! We had a difficult time distinguishing between you and all the rest of the turds. And like like your odoriferous cousins, you were good-for-nothing and smelled up the joint. Especially when you opened up your snout. Maybe the Raiders will be smart enough to let you dry up and blow away in the wind instead of letting you break open again.

12:56 PM  
Anonymous Special Needs Coach said...

FROM INSIDE THE ORGANIZATION:

You people are so uninformed. Cam isn't holding Beck back because he's scared to throw him to the wolves, or because he's scared of going 0-16, looking bad, and losing his job. Here's the REAL reason Cam isn't starting Beck:

He knows that Beck is the second coming of Marino, and knows he'll go 8-8 if he starts Beck now.

Since that won't get us to the playoffs but WILL cause us to give lose our #1 draft pick, he's going to keep Beck out until we have at least 12 losses, so as to ensure a sick draft pick.

Then, the Dolphins will have a great draft plus a great QB, and might actually have a shot of being decent next year.

6:15 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

We're uninformed? That has to be the most retarded thing I've ever heard! As much as we (the fans) would love to lose every game (save maybe one), to get the first pick of the draft, these guys are PROFESSIONAL football players on NFL teams! They don't "sandbag" games, or a season for that matter for draft picks. That's a sure-fired way for a coach and staff to lose their jobs!

6:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Silly conclusions!! Lacks football sense!! Let's think football & not bandwagon!!

NOPE, ditching Culpepper for free was a BIG Mistake. Oakland is a bad team & they'll do worse with him on the bench. C-Pep would be the best QB on our team & many teams ... you'll hear alot more about him in the future.

Giving draft picks for Culpepper & Green was a BIG mistake ... all of these guys are free with time.

That's why the Dolphins are bad, a Decade of BIG Mistakes.

Draft Pick: I want O-line & QB ... these develop slowly, so we'll continue to draft high & get future quality players. BUT at #1 you must take BEST Player, for us anyone will do with all our holes.

Go Phins!! Cheers, JerryD

6:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Giving up picks for all the QBs were bad moves. We got nothing & they chewed up salary cap which caused us to lose alot of good players.

Draft? How about trading #1 for several picks .... we need players & less risk.

Lets objectively rate Cam/Randy
I say D+ to C, how can it be better?

- Draft questionalbe ... Satele good, Ginn ? & not top 10 ... other players are here, but on our bad team with all open slots.
- Gave up a stud star Welker for #2

- Gave up draft picks for Green
- Threw C-Pep value in garbage.

- Let go core players & now our team stinks.

How could they grade above D+ to C?

7:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey ...

" Special Needs Coach said...
FROM INSIDE THE ORGANIZATION:
You people are so uninformed."

"Then, the Dolphins will have a great draft plus a great QB, and might actually have a shot of being decent next year."

This guy evidently works for the Dolphins on his day-pass from the asylum.

Wayne ... fire this guy, he's hearing voices & not taking his meds!!!. Maybe Wayne's bye-week study group is looking for this dude!! lol

7:21 PM  
Blogger Armando Salguero said...

If the inside the organization person is legit (which I doubt), I now realize why the Dolphins are so horrible. For anyone inside the organization to really think Beck guarantees the Dolphins of an 8-0 record in the second half of the season after never starting and NFL game in his life is utterly stupid, ridiculous and moronic and makes someone in the Dolphins organization very dumb for hiring this foolish person.

7:46 PM  
Anonymous Special Needs Coach said...

FROM INSIDE THE ORGANIZATION:


it was a joke, guys. It's tough to laugh during times like these, and it's tough to justify not starting Beck it times like these.

I figured I'd solve both problems with a little humor.

ps- Armando: I agree 100% with your idea to trade the top pick for multiple first-rounders. And I hope that the REAL "special needs coach" realize this.

8:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey ....

"Special Needs Coach said...
FROM INSIDE THE ORGANIZATION:"

With Wayne Hire-Zingers management .... its hard to tell if its
1) True
2) A Joke
3) An asylum day-pass w/o meds

Good work!! Shows how you exposed Dolphin managment that is so bad, that all 3 are viable options.

Go PHins!!! Cheers, JerryD

9:25 PM  
Anonymous Tom said...

Armando

You just don't get it. The problem with cutting C-Pepper was not that he is better than Trent Green. Neither one is any good. But we already had C-Pepper and didn't have to give up anything to keep him. On the other hand, we had to give up a 4th round pick to get Trent Green. Not a good move for a team, that even you admit, needs draft picks.

7:31 AM  
Blogger Rob said...

UH, Tom? With reasoning like that, Jay Fiedler would still be our QB. Teams always have to do what they feel will improve their team. If the staff didn't feel that DC would be the proper bridge between now, and Beck, then they made the right move. I happen to agree. Beck plays an entirely different game than DC does, just as JMark out in Oakland's game more identifies with DC. As for what we should draft? I agree with the assessment that we should trade out of the number one slot. There is a good chance that the best choice for thenumber one pick will be McFadden, and while I would love to have his talent around, I think we have RB more well in hand than we do OL,DL,DB,LB,and to be honest, I think we could use one more quality WR. I would love to see us trade down to a point where we could draft Manningham, with an extra first for next season, and a few picks farther down. Manningham, Ginn, Hagen, and beck would be the most solid our WR core has been since the Marks, plus Moore. Usually you can get good Interior D line help in lower rounds, and linebackers can usually be had throughout the draft (Zach, anyone?). I would love to see us able to pick Lionidas from OSU. He reminds me a lot of Zach, and would be a nice heir apparent.

5:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't believe the Herald pays you for this garbage. 0-8 buddy. To say Culpepper or anyone couldn't do better is ridiculous. WE ARE 0 - 8!!!!!Had they had CUlpepper they may have come up with the bright idea of giving the ball to Ronnie more to protect Culpepper. Oh btw, how does this "numb" the Ted Ginn pick? Or the Welker trade. Well thought out article. You continue your reign as the armpit of journalist!

7:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone know what sopcast channel the Dolphin game is playing on?

1:16 PM  

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