Cameron needs to recognize what is important
I think Cam Cameron has the potential to be an elite head coach. But he has some growing and learning to do and one thing he has yet to learn is when to micro-manage and when to leave things he shouldn't worry about alone.
Earlier this year, when the defense was clearly in need of attention, he was way too slow in looking over Dom Capers' shoulder. Sure, Capers is reputed to be a good coach, but sometimes even the best of the best lose their way and need to be redirected. That's what a head coach is supposed to do with his coordinators and other assistants.
But Cameron was too busy being the offensive coordinator to correct the situation quickly.
Meanwhile, it baffles me some of the things Cameron does deem worthy of his attention. Take the publicity end of the business, for example. Cameron was upset earlier this season when a Jason Taylor press conference included Taylor's smoothie sponsor.
Cameron watched a press conference in which Cleo Lemon was wearing a blue tooth device in his ear and remonstrated with his quarterback about doing the interview with that device in his ear. He got involved with locker room setup, he watches interviews on the team's website.
And Monday, the day after his team lost 49-28 to New England, he was puzzled to the edge of being agitated when reporters laughed WITH HIM at some of the things he said during the press conference.
At one point during the press conference, Cameron was addressing the team's search for a safety and said the team is, "looking at any guy whose played safety in the NFL the last 50 years" as an option. That got a laugh.
In recounting the Zach Thomas auto accident, which Cameron drove by moments after it happened, Cameron quoted Thomas: "Coach, this is kind of the way this day has gone," Cameron quoted Thomas telling him following the accident that followed the New England whipping.
That brought laughter from reporters also.
But after saying these things that were light and got a chuckle, Cameron was not happy the media thought they were funny. So guess what? His comments that brought laughter were edited out of the Dolphins transcript. Look at it on the Dolphins website, if you can find it. The quotes I heard and wrote down are not on the transcript.
I cannot say absolutely that Cameron ordered the transcript edited, but I would not be surprised if he did. And that returns me to the point.
With his team teetering with a 0-7 record, with his team's best player now out for the year with a torn ACL in his right knee, with plenty of issues to resolve on defense, perhaps the coach needs to manage what he should manage.
And not worry about things that have nothing to do with winning and losing.
Earlier this year, when the defense was clearly in need of attention, he was way too slow in looking over Dom Capers' shoulder. Sure, Capers is reputed to be a good coach, but sometimes even the best of the best lose their way and need to be redirected. That's what a head coach is supposed to do with his coordinators and other assistants.
But Cameron was too busy being the offensive coordinator to correct the situation quickly.
Meanwhile, it baffles me some of the things Cameron does deem worthy of his attention. Take the publicity end of the business, for example. Cameron was upset earlier this season when a Jason Taylor press conference included Taylor's smoothie sponsor.
Cameron watched a press conference in which Cleo Lemon was wearing a blue tooth device in his ear and remonstrated with his quarterback about doing the interview with that device in his ear. He got involved with locker room setup, he watches interviews on the team's website.
And Monday, the day after his team lost 49-28 to New England, he was puzzled to the edge of being agitated when reporters laughed WITH HIM at some of the things he said during the press conference.
At one point during the press conference, Cameron was addressing the team's search for a safety and said the team is, "looking at any guy whose played safety in the NFL the last 50 years" as an option. That got a laugh.
In recounting the Zach Thomas auto accident, which Cameron drove by moments after it happened, Cameron quoted Thomas: "Coach, this is kind of the way this day has gone," Cameron quoted Thomas telling him following the accident that followed the New England whipping.
That brought laughter from reporters also.
But after saying these things that were light and got a chuckle, Cameron was not happy the media thought they were funny. So guess what? His comments that brought laughter were edited out of the Dolphins transcript. Look at it on the Dolphins website, if you can find it. The quotes I heard and wrote down are not on the transcript.
I cannot say absolutely that Cameron ordered the transcript edited, but I would not be surprised if he did. And that returns me to the point.
With his team teetering with a 0-7 record, with his team's best player now out for the year with a torn ACL in his right knee, with plenty of issues to resolve on defense, perhaps the coach needs to manage what he should manage.
And not worry about things that have nothing to do with winning and losing.
posted by Armando Salguero at 12:16 AM
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You wrote, "But Cameron was too busy being the offensive coordinator to correct the situation quickly.", however unless you can show some factual basis for that comment it is nothing more than speculation on your part, and perhaps a false accusation. How do you know if he was too busy to correct the situation? How do you know whether or not he has tried to correct the situation? You are implying that he has just left Capers to do his own thing without any intervention from the head coach, but this doesn't seem likely. It's fine to have a blog and want to get people riled up to make your blog more 'popular', but this I find is irresponsible reporting, unless of course you can back up what you have written with something more than what you 'guess' to be so.
1-It's a little late in the game for a head coach to learn to NOT waste his energies on the transcript of a post game press conference. I hope he succeeds as head coach. I do, but he has not installed much confidence in this fan.
2-Peter King had a great summary of why the fish suck:
"The incompetence of the Miami Dolphins front office cannot be overstated. At least the incompetence between 1998 and 2003....Miami had 59 picks total in those six drafts -- 46 used to draft players, and 13 used to trade for 10 other players (Tyrone Wheatley, Kevin Gogan, Jim Druckenmiller, Alonzo Mayes, Matt Turk, Ricky Williams, Jeff Ogden, Cade McNown, Jay Williams, Sage Rosenfels). They traded two ones and a four for Ricky Williams and a four in return and traded two sixes for McNown.
Zero for 59! Astonishing.
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3-Cameron's need to edit 'facts and the truth' makes me wonder if he's angling for a position in a future republican administration.
4-Sorry about the length.
dude it's like i told you on the krodge show this team needs a talent evaluator mueller is terrible at it huizenga should pay someone like a ron wolf to fix it and as for cameron he is not going to be a good let alone great head coach your write up says it all if im wayne i fire these clowns and hire bill cowher in 2008!bryan in ohio.....
Ya..I thought those were his best comments. On the other hand though they can be interpreted as publicly belittling the current Safeties. And while he knows they suck he probably doesn't want to rub it publicly in their face any more than Randy Moss did...He probably shouldn't have said it.
well Ive told everyone from the beginning Cameron IS NOT the man for the coaching job he to mild tempered, most of the times players should praise there coach for the work and progress they have done (Taylor & Thomas) but this year you see no excitment in the team, even before the season started, I dont know, I do know we suck, and that starts at the top.
Armando, I listened to the PC live and agree with your recollection of the conversation. I have not listened to the edited version yet.
I think Cameron is probably concerned with sending a message that he thinks being 0-7 is funny. That's understandable. But, then again, if he doesn't want people to laugh then he shouldn't make light of his situation.
Perhaps a few days at the Jimmy Johnson school of being miserable would help. LOL...
Armando, I genuinely enjoy your blog, but sometimes you can be a real a--hole. Cameron is clearly frustrated and probably has trouble finding anything funny at this point. You have the easy job to sit on your tail and find creative ways to write how terrible this team is. He has the tough task of getting it fixed or losing his job. You shouldn't be taking advantage of his vulnerability as a frustrated coach (who wouldn't be at 0-7) to win easy points with frustrated fans like myself. Maybe you would prefer they get Saban back just to demean you in the press room.
Well there is always a way to look at the glass. Is it half full or half empty? Armando you always seem to look on the negative side. And don’t tell me it’s the state of the Phins. You was like this even before the season started. I started to view your blog every time I need a laugh. You have gone beyond the stance of opinion. A good reported whether or not it’s your blog should error on the side of truth and not negativity.
We as fans need to let this play out. We have lost the RB and many of our DBs this year. The mistakes were made in letting too many of last years DLs go. Imagine last years defense with the improved offense that we have this year. We need to keep Cam and Randy and not keep this rebuilding process going. Every time you get a new coach you rebuild. Remember all the changes when JJ took over?
I totally agree with the above statement about Cam not wanting to come off as though he thinks being 0 and 7 is a joke. Armando, why do you and the rest of the media have to beat this coach up. Saban beat you guys up and now you feel the need to get even. It's obvious that he cares about how the team is perceived and that's why he has micro managed. Has anybody noticed that the presnap penalties have decreased and even when they are out of the game they keep playing hard. They don't have the talent and Cam and Randy can't be held accountable for years of bad personel choices. Even Shula was so busy patting himself on the back that he didn't acknowledge that his personel decisions started this whole mess. Give Cam a chance.
This is rich. Here's a beat writer for the Dolphins who's been at the same job for a few decades without advancement advising a head coach how to handle himself and his job!
Hey, Armando, Cameron's job is just a teensie bit more difficult than yours. Imagine yourself running the Herald (I know, it's hard) and having a cub reporter from the Holly Pines Middle School News make unfounded conjecture regarding your micro-management of the paper.
Why are you reading the transcript in the first place? Too lazy to take notes at the press briefing? You weren't there and needed to go to the website for the video AND the transcript? Hmmm? Inquiring minds want to know.
Why would you assume it was Cameron and not some low-level publicist redacting something that a beady-eyed 'journalist' might try and turn into a story? You will note that the entire video remains - so your story is a NON-STORY.
Cameron's handling of the press during his brief tenure here (and considering the state of things) is nothing short of brilliant. I just cannot imagine how the quislings in the press would be trashing Saban or someone else who loved the media {like Parcells :)} if they were 0-7. I've watched nearly every press briefing Cameron has conducted and am amazed at his confidence and demeanor. You guys haven't rattled him. He's been calm as a cucumber and left you guys laughing on more occasions than not. How about giving him a break?
Oh, yeah, realizing there might be someone like you waiting to pounce on an innocent joke, he also said something about 'don't qoute me.'
As far as Dom is concerned, NO ONE thought that was where we had the greater problems. Dom has been a head coach two places and was in charge of the 4th ranked D in the league. You're suggesting that Cam come in and start treating him like he's incompetent - looking over his shoulder. Don't you think initially this might have done more harm than good?
Anyway, keep up the good work.
I have nothing to say about the Dolphins. Their actions speak for themselves.
Another great post by nomdeplame, I couldn't have said it better. Thanks for pointing out the obvious that Armando most of the south Florida media is a joke
I made a mistake. When I said 'video,' I meant 'audio.'
nome has it all wrong. I want my coach to be accountable and in charge of what he should be in charge of. He needs to be up Dom Capers arse because the defense has given up 231 points. Instead he's up the arse of Cleo Lemon for using bluetooth? Get real.
The brilliant coaches set their priorities and watching the team's website, I dare say, is not high on that list.
It's pretty obvious Cameron pretty much let the defense go early on.
Look, the guy is typically so busy calling plays, he can't manage the clock. So it doesn't surprise me he can't manage the D.
I agree with you Mando. Cameron will eventually be a good coach. But, like everyone else on this 0-7 team, he's got a lot of improving to do.
Armando, I love reading your blogs. However, cut Coach Camron some slack. As if things weren't bad enough for him, now you come out with this. Armando, I'm sure it's tough for you to cover an 0-7 team as tough as it is for us fans to watch it. Coach Cameron has treated you guys in the media with respect, and every time you or others tried to rattle his cage he remains cool and collected.
C'mon Armando, show Coach Cameron the same courtesy he's shown you. Unless, you enjoyed being demeaned and belittled by a certain angry midget who now makes his living in Toothlessloosa, Alabama.
I'm tired of the Cameron apologists. Is he the worst coach in the NFL? Probably not. Is he the best? Certainly not.
It's not unfair to say that. And the guy's not perfect so I don't mind it when the media points out he, also, needs to get better.
I dont think Cameron is the answer as far as a being a head coach. A coordinator yes, but head coach.. well, just look at what he has done. He brought in a qb that was a hit away from being scrambled eggs, he signed a mal content loud mouth in Porter who is non-existant in this team, he pretty much just collects the checks. He drafts a punt returner with the 9th overall pick and praises how he has such a great family and that he will be an exciting punt returner for miami. He passed up on Brady Quinn, who everyone says he never won a big game etc etc but he is the best player at that pick and a position that miami needed o soo badly. Lets not forget he has been playing in an NFL offense in Charlie Weiss. I think Cameron is really as dumb as he looks, and I dont think Bill Cower is the answer becauseit took him 14years to win a SB in Pitt, do you honestly think miami wants to wait 14 years for a SB?? I doubt it... Wayne has to sell this team to owners that know, love, eat, sleep football... Or higher people that do...
You guys KILL ME with all this "Cut the coach some slack". You're the same assholes that asked patience when Wannstadt was the coach. It doesn't take more than what I've seen to realize this coach is a joke. Just as MOST people with sense knew Wanndstadt was a joke! Whether he is the GM or not, he certainly has his hand in personnel. Those decisions knocked us out of contention. The coach has ABSOLUTELY quit on the team less than half-way through by trading the #1 reciever to his former team. (I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT!) His clock management is HORRINDOUS. WHY is Ray Lucas starting? Why did Brown have to fight for a job and return kickoffs? Why wasn't Ginn the slot reciever from day ONE? Why haven't we seen Lorenzo Booker? Why would you call pass plays in run situations with the game on the line? Elite coach my ass! This "coach" has almost single-handedly RUINED the team this year. I'll agree there were mistakes from yesteryear, but he should have addressed those (SECONDARY) in the draft! He's a douche and he'll only cripple us further the longer he's here (SEE WANNDSTADT)
Yo A,
I agree he's going to be a damn good head coach, here in Miami. The offense needed adressing and quite frankly it is the best I have seen it in years (which is amazing considering how it looked in preseason when we only scored on Beck's improvising). I can see how he would give Capers (someone with more HC experience) a lot of leeway and being slow to interfere. However clearly (besides the personelle issues) the Saban\Capers scheme is too complicated for the secondary and even though the Bates system seemed vanilla it worked a lot more reliably. I think it is time for Wayne to beg forgivness and open his wallet wide to try to bring Bates back.
Lastly the rest of your blog was petty and could have been skipped. Of course players shouldn't be doing endorsements during after game interviews and after what all transpired in the last 10 weeks I'd give him a pass on emotions during an interview with people that have been putting him under the microscope and second guessing everything (after the fact) that did not work out while barely if all acknowledging the things that did.
I miss Jason Cole
All I have to say is the person who decided to let go of 3 starters on the defense only to add one over the hill linebacker should be the one held responsible.
Cam is just trying to make something happen.
The first major decision Mueller and Cameron faced was free agency and they broke the bank on Joey Porter. The second was the draft and they chose Ted Ginn. Everything else has pretty much fallen in line since. These guys are a complete train wreck. These two mistakes alone will haunt the Dolphins for years to come.
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Jason Cole can be found on yahoo.com. Feel free to go there and not come back here. We'll survive somehow.
Mando, you're letting your temper show again. Don't mind these buttwipes who want to lick Dolphin pectorals.
I think this blog is a hoot and I visit every day. Stay strong, bro.
I'd like to address the anonymous poster who berated me yesterday for living in the past. I think you didn't read into the post on Joe Robbie. The point I was making was the difference between a football owner and business owner. While Huizinga has brought superbowl games and vast revenue to the Dolphins franchise he has made decisions that have brought a once proud football team to its knees. I agree living in the past is foolish but not learning from it is just plain stupid.
Now to the Cameron debate... "Past performance dictates future performance." I'm not sure if that was the exact quote but it was something like that. While with the Redskins in 1994 the skins 3rd pick in the draft was Heath Shuler. They also picked Gus Frerotte in the 7th. Heath Shuler will go down as one of biggest busts ever. Frerotte turned out to be okay but was never more than a journeyman QB.
Past performance dictates future performance... Was Cameron so afraid of the Shuler pick that he passed on Quinn to save himself from being a two time loser in selecting 1st round QBs? Could he have thought that picking Beck in the 2nd would lessen the blow if Beck is a bust? Not wanting to restart the Quinn debate but, has anyone noticed how God awful Notre Dame is without Quinn?
Past performance dictates future performance... As head coach at Indiana University 1997-2001 Cameron coached the team to an 18 and 37 record. This included 2001 which featured a 5 and 6 record with quarterback Antwaan Randle El a first-team All-American leading the Hoosiers to an average of 435.3 yards per game. Great offensive coordinator, not a very good head coach.
Past performance dictates future performance... As offensive coordinator with SD Mr. Cameron took a tremendously talented group of players and led one of the most prolific offenses in the NFL. After taking the reigns as head coach of the Miami Dolphins the team is off to the worst start in team history and could conceivably end the season at 0 and 16.
Past performance dictates future performance... Back to the beginning, Wayne Huizinga hired Jimmy Johnson, Dave Wannstedt, Nick Saban and now Cam Cameron. While Johnson did a decent job as coach and proved a good evaluator of talent, he quit on the team when he realized he couldn't take it over the top. He then convinced Mr. Huizinga to hire his friend Dave Wannstedt after Wannstedt had systematically brought the superbowl champion Bears, one of the greatest teams in NFL history, to their collective knees and was run out of town. Nick Saban seemed like a great hire at the time but he too quit when he knew he could not win with the talent he had on the roster. Now Cameron who has proven from past performance outlined above to be a great coordinator but not so good a head coach or talent evaluator.
Past performance dictates future performance... So Mr. Hiuzinga, onus falls on you sir and the president and CEO of this football team. It is time for you and your top team to realize your shortcomings as football people and bring in some folks at the top of this organization who know this game. Until that happens we can only relive the past because the future does not look very bright.
Armando, you're pique in response to the Jason Cole fan fails to recognize that Jason no longer comments almost exclusively on the Dolphins as he did when here. He took the time to individually respond to literally TENS of THOUSANDS of questions concerning our team.
No one in Miami has taken on that task since. It is a good reason to wax nostalgic over Mr. Cole.
Cam Cameron's nick name should be:
"O" FOR
usage example
O for 1
O for 2
O for 3
O for 4
O for 5
O for 6
O for 7
all the way to
O for 16
Patrick ~
Cameron was not the G.M., the Offensive Coordinator, President of Football Operations or the Head Coach while with Washington, so please don't try to lay Shuler at his feet.
When Quinn shines and Beck stinks, you can say "I told you so." Until then, it's a moot point.
If Cameron had taken on a program like Michigan, Ohio or Notre Dame, teams with solid recruiting programs and kids waiting in line to sign, the results may have been significantly different. Has Indiana been a powerhouse before or since? I think not. It's a weak point.
In San Diego, the team finished 4-12 when Cameron took over as OC. He presided over a remarkable offensive turn-around. You act like he inherited Tom Brady and the 2007 Patsies.
Huizenga has done what all you brilliant fans wanted him to do. He fired Shula, hired Jimmy, kept on Wannstedt, hired Saban and FINALLY turned the hiring over to a professional - Mueller - 2000 NFL Executive of the Year, and NOW you're whining.
Give Mueller and Cameron a couple of years. Despite your perception that they are incompetent boobs, they have not been given a chance to show what they can do.
Just sayin'.
What "we" wanted him to do? I don't recall EVER asking for Shula
s head, Marino's cleats, Wanndstat OR Cam! Just as I disagreed with just about EVERY personnel move that was made this year. McMichael, Chambers, Green, Martin NOT addressing the secondary for 3 years following the dismantling! There's always some idiots, like the ones that agree that Chambers wasn't fast enough to catch up to Ray Lucas' passes, or are intolerant of dropped passes; but he NEVER led the league in drops (LOOK IT UP), and he wasn't used efficiently, he never had a QB or ANY stability. Welker, tough kid, but I've said it before, if you have a Chambers, and a Welker, and Welker leads the team in receptions, SOMETHING is wrong! It aint Chambers.....Anyway, enough of that, point is, "WE" want a lot of things, but THESE guys are IDIOTS, PERIOD! BTW, Patrick, good job
Oh, and Nomdeplame, Mandy WILL respond to certain individuals...I guess you just have to scratch his crotch the right way. No sweat though; Jeff Darlingirl or Cam Cameron won't answer my questions
Hey lets stop playing games and lets get a real coach in here who have a real passion for the game like Bill Cowher or Bill Parcells I'll even take Dennis Green about right now, I mean this is the worst that I've seen my team and here we have the coach joking at the press conference!!!! Well Cam let me say this the fan's who pay your salary isn't laughing!! I mean I don't like the Dallas Cowboys but the onething I can say about Jerry Jones is that he don't put up with no Bulls**t when it comes to winning....If you muck up your gone!!!!
Phillybob ~
Cowher and Parcells have so much passion for the game they both QUIT! Dennis Green? Last four years as a head coach - combined record 21 - 42.
Good comment!
Marc says, "...if you have a Chambers, and a Welker, and Welker leads the team in receptions, SOMETHING is wrong! It aint Chambers...."
You might want to check New England's receiver stats. Welker is the leading receiver. They've got a Moss and a Stallworth. SOMETHING must be wrong in Patsie Town, right? And it ain't Moss...
WTF is your point?
Marc says, " (Chambers) NEVER led the league in drops (LOOK IT UP)..."
While we're on the subject of Chambers and dropped balls, Marc, I don't believe it CAN be looked up. Show me where the stats are, if you're so sure.
There ARE stats on what percentage of passes thrown to a receiver are completions, however. Now, this doesn't necessarily mean they were all dropped, of course, but if the stats are low, you can bet some are due to drops. If the receiver is the lowest ranked receiver of 82 ranked, that says something. Check this out:
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr2006.php
Of all receivers ranked with 50 or more passes thrown to them in 2006, Chambers was LAST! This ranking is based on other factors than percentage caught, but he's tied for last in that category as well. I'm glad you issued the challenge because I was not aware of this fact. It makes the Chambers trade look better and better all the time.
Wrong AGAIN, Marc. "...Cam Cameron won't answer my questions..."
Go to MiamiDolphins(dot)com and you will find a place where you can ask Cam Cameron a question. If it is worth answering (I'm not holding my breath) he might choose to respond to yours.
When will you be right?
I posted this before, but let s end the CHambers debate now:
ACTUAL METRICS HERE!!!! I know my opinions have always been strong,
but I study the draft, the free agent system andI always know what is
going on. I just always try to put the truth out there and spin it
with some genuine Dolphin homer speak. I have watched the Cleveland
game seven times just to understand what happened.
I do however clearly see what Cameron is doing and I knew something
was up SUnday when Cam put Chambers to the vertical test repeatedly.
Never has he been asked to do so much in a game and then done so
little. I didn't understand it then, but I understand it now.
Check this out:
These are Chris Chambers metrics from 2006: His NFL ranking in each
category followed by attempts/completions, Yards per attempt and then
the YPA of the number one receiver and his name in parentheses:
Comeback route - 5th - 3/3 15.3 YPA (18.0 Furrey)
Corner Route - 41st - 0/5 0.0 YPA (43.5 A. Bryant)
Crossing route - 52nd - 8/13 5.8 YPA (16.5 I. Bruce)
Deep In route - 36th - 3/6 10.0 YPA (23.5 R. Curry)
Deep Out route - 54th - 6/18 4.6 YPA (18.0 N. Washington)
Double Move Go route - 23rd - 1/3 15.0 YPA (53.6 L. Evans)
Fade route - 31st - 2/5 3.6 YPA (10.3 T.Owens)
Fade-Stop route - 19th - 0/1 0.0 YPA (23.0 J. Walker)
Go route - 45th - 1/15 3.1 YPA (22.5 Burress)
Hitch route - 39th - 4/5 5.8 YPA (23.0 H.Ward)
Hook Route - 29th - 6/8 8.5 YPA (13.3 Galloway)
Post route - 37th - 1/4 5.8 YPA (44.0 T. Glenn)
Quick Hitch - 27th - 7/8 4.0 YPA (7.1 Ocho Cinco)
Seam route - 14th - 1/1 18.0 YPA (27.3 D. Bennett)
Skinny Post route - 16th - 1/2 11.0 YPA (15.4 H. Ward)
Slant route - 61st - 1/4 1.8 YPA (16.3 S. Holmes)
Screens - 27th - 6/8 4.0 YPA (14.0 L. Coles)
So you can see that Chambers doesn't match up to any of the leagues
top receivers in any category. Those are his ranks out of all NFL Wide
receivers. Sammie Parker, Eddie Kennison, Reche Caldwell, Arnez
Battle, and Roddy White are some of the WR that blow chambers away in
virually all of these categories. It is actually pretty sad.
Also Chambers only had success (a catch) on 33% of his plays when the
DB had less than seven steps cushion on him. 50 % with 7+ steps
cushion on him. Welker had 75% with 5 steps or less and Booker had 45%
welker had 90% with 7+ steps and Booker had 80% with that much
cushion.
Chambers is tied for 61st in the NFL for WR with p missed passes due
to inaccurate passes. That is 6.8% of his passes missed because of
inaccurate passes. Booker had 3% in that same category.
Chris Chambers is tied for 53rd worst in the NFL in accurate passes
dropped with 9 which is 7% of his passes. That percentage ranks him
42nd in the NFL.He is the 52nd worst in the NFL in yards lost ue to
dropping accurate passes with 133 yards. That means 51 receivers did
better at not losing yards because of dropped passes.
Chambers is tied for 46th for missed passes, 24 misses at a rate of
18%!!!!! Ridiculous!!! 14 drops at a rate 10.5% overall!
And worst of all...Chambers ranks dead last, 66th in nmber of
interceptions due to WR error, not QB error with 7!! the QB threw 2
bad passes to him that were intercepted. Total of 9.He is 62nd in the
NFL in near interceptions due to WR error.
I took me two hours to compile that information for you and type it.
Thanks to the work of KC Joyner for his scientific work of breaking
down NFL tape. These numbers are real. Chambers is far from being a
top flight number two. We are fooled by his occasional acrobatics. Yes
he had Harrington throwing to him, but many recievers who had MUCH
better numbers had no better QB throwing to them either.
Ron in Charlotte
Ron,
thanks for all the hard work and re-posting it. I missed it the first time around. I don't read all of the comments on this site. It becomes more unbearable than watching the Dolphin D give up a third and long. So many morons, so little knowledge.
Thanks again.
You guys NEVER STOP huh? Wow, pulled out metrics huh? Well, first, IPSE. Welker is a SLOT reciever. I'm sure you know that. I'm sure you also realize that Moss is double covered MOST of the time. Welker is the equivelant of say, OJ McDuffie. He's going to get passes. The point I was trying to make is that LAST YEAR, 06, Chamber's worst year. Neither Chambers or McMichael were utilized. Whether it was due to panick or some other reason there were hardly even thrown the ball. It seemed, from WATCHING, and not analyzing the game that Welker was the ONLY option. I don't feel like looking it up AGAIN, because I've done so previously, but there ARE statistics for drops (Hence the reason I mentioned that). Az Hakim, ironically lead the leaugue in drops and percentage dropped. Chambers wasn't even in the top 5 (or bottom, rather). Of course, I'm not relying entirely on stats or metrics, I'm remembering yelling. "Chambers is WIDE OPEN you idiot!". Nomdeplame, you obviously missed the boat ENTIRELY. I HAVE asked Cam in the Ask the Coach feature, as I've asked Mandy and Darlington questions. I said, I've never got an ANSWER. Jesus. Ron, I'm glad that you study the draft and such and did ALL THAT WORK to dig up metrics. I'm sure you must be an extrememly rich man from sports gambling....right? right? I watched the Cleveland game too. I don't need to watch it again to realize that Ray Lucas was OVERTHROWING Chambers the way he did Tedd Freakin' Ginn last week. The same way Harrington did last year and Frerrote before him! All those #'s don't mean jack to me. I saw it with my own eyes! Point is, he had ONE bad year, with a terrible QB, a terrible Offensive line, and has had over a dozen QB/ Offensive coordinator/coach combos. I suppose you are the same people that thought Marino was so terrible his last season he needed to go to?
marc, I understand what you are saying. I have one thing to say about Chambers/Ginn:
When Lemon overthrew Ginn, he was open and had separation. Chambers was covered in Lockstep by Leigh Bodden (who?). Lemon's throw to Chambers was perfect if he had separation. Ginn's was a yard too far. Go on youtube. Beck would make that throw.
Ron, I have no doubt that Beck could have made that throw to EITHER reciever. I've posted that same link on Youtube.
Yeah Marc, I LOVE Beck. I cannot wait. That's why this bad season can just pass and I am still smiling.
Marc says, “You guys KILL ME with all this ‘Cut the coach some slack.’”
I say – Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Are you feeling a little woozy yet?
Marc says,”It doesn’t take any more than what I’ve seen to realize this coach is a joke.”
I say – Oh, great seer, Mr. Know-It-All, why do you keep asking questions? If you know it all, why don’t you provide some answers beyond, “These guys are idiots”?
Here are a few answers anyway: There are more things required in managing and coaching a team than you seem to be able to grasp. Why is ‘Ray Lucas’ starting? First of all, trying to be clever by calling Lemon ‘Ray Lucas’, demeans both men whose jocks you aren’t fit to carry. Secondly, Lemon won the role in training camp. Thirdly, I think the coaches will know better than a guy who spends all his time at the keyboard calling other people a*holes, douches and idiots when John Beck should assume the starting role - same with Ginn and L.Booker.
Having Brown fight for his job and return kicks didn’t seem to hurt him, did it? Now we’ll see what Chatman can do. We might be surprised to see that the competition wasn’t as lopsided as you imagine. Pass plays in situations where everyone is expecting a run can provide a quick score rendering a first down or running time off the clock moot points. If it doesn’t work, then it provides ammunition for people such as you to be geniuses in hindsight.
You assume having 10 draft picks allows the GM and the coach to solve ALL the problems left by predecessors. You disagree with “about EVERY personnel move” made in the draft and free-agency. Do you disagree with Beck? Do you disagree with Satele? Do you disagree with Fields? Do you disagree with Feeley? Do you disagree with Soliai?
The coach should have addressed the secondary in the draft? Perhaps you hadn’t noticed that we had the 4th ranked D in the league and that there certainly seemed to be more pressing needs on the other side of the ball. You disagree with the Chambers move and cite Welker catching more passes as indicative that something else is wrong (this refers to 2006 when Cam wasn’t here). When it is pointed out that Welker is leading the team in NE as well, you say it is because Moss is double-covered. This further weakens your case, since Chambers wasn’t feared enough to be double-covered most of the time.
You are happy to use statistics to make your points – “LOOK IT UP” – someone looks it up and finds that Chambers trails almost every other starting receiver in the league in all the important stats and suddenly your eyes and what you see trump everything else.
On and on and on you go and then have the nerve to say, “You guys NEVER STOP huh?” It is too funny and you’re the joke, Marc.
Oh, and - Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack. Cut the coach some slack.
I say – Cut the coach some slack. Are you feeling a little woozy yet? As a matter of fact, I am.
I say – Oh, great seer, Mr. Know-It-All, why do you keep asking questions? If you know it all, why don’t you provide some answers beyond, “These guys are idiots”?
I've provided input on MORE than enough topics. Obviously you haven't read such items.
Here are a few answers anyway: There are more things required in managing and coaching a team than you seem to be able to grasp.
Enlighten me please.
Why is ‘Ray Lucas’ starting? First of all, trying to be clever by calling Lemon ‘Ray Lucas’, demeans both men whose jocks you aren’t fit to carry.
I beg to differ. These supposed QB's are terrible! Lemon couldn't start for ANY other team, nor could Lucas (hence the comparison, well, that and they're both black) They are both just like EVERY OTHER QB we've had since the greatest; BACK-UPS! Futher, I don't think I'd like to carry either's "jocks"
Secondly, Lemon won the role in training camp.
He did? Wow. I suppose that means that Green won the starting job too?
Thirdly, I think the coaches will know better than a guy who spends all his time at the keyboard calling other people a*holes, douches and idiots when John Beck should assume the starting role - same with Ginn and L.Booker.
Not sure I follow here, but I call it like I see it.
Having Brown fight for his job and return kicks didn’t seem to hurt him, did it?
No, fortunately it didn't. What do you think the reaction would have been if this injury occured on a kick return?
Now we’ll see what Chatman can do. We might be surprised to see that the competition wasn’t as lopsided as you imagine.
We shall see. Not that it really matters at this point. If he is a capable BACK-UP, that would be great. I'd much rather see the 3rd round pick though considering the coach officially gave up on the season.
Pass plays in situations where everyone is expecting a run can provide a quick score rendering a first down or running time off the clock moot points. If it doesn’t work, then it provides ammunition for people such as you to be geniuses in hindsight.
I make very few observations based on hindsight. Unlike the staff I have a little foresight ;). Thank you for the Pee-Wee league football 101 on a pass play in a running situation, but if I have to go back and list every questionable play this year I'd take up this entire blog.
You assume having 10 draft picks allows the GM and the coach to solve ALL the problems left by predecessors. You disagree with “about EVERY personnel move” made in the draft and free-agency. Do you disagree with Beck? Do you disagree with Satele? Do you disagree with Fields? Do you disagree with Feeley? Do you disagree with Soliai?
I do not disagree with Beck, Ginn, or Feeley. I am questionable about the other's you listed and did NOT agree with Martin/McMichaels, Chambers, Green, Mauia/Schleschenger, or Beasley, Kevin Carter, Jim Maxwell, and MORE! NOT ADDRESSING THE SECONDARY, NOT ADDRESSING THE SECONDARY, NOT ADDRESSING THE OFFENSIVE LINE, NOT ADDRESSING THE OFFENSIVE LINE. (Unfortunately, I only starting reading/posting this year because I was even MORE baffled then I was in the past, starting with the McMichael release! Otherwise you would have heard more expletives than usual at the Surtain/Madison/Knight/Schulters deals)
The coach should have addressed the secondary in the draft? Perhaps you hadn’t noticed that we had the 4th ranked D in the league and that there certainly seemed to be more pressing needs on the other side of the ball.
The D was a mirage. As stated above it was a MIRACLE that the secondary held up without losing every play-maker it had! I was AMAZED it took other teams another year to realize that all they had to do was attack us vertically! Thinking that Roth/Porter could fill former Pro-Bowl Kevin Carter's shoes, and releasing the rest of the depth on the line should have been a red-flag!
You disagree with the Chambers move and cite Welker catching more passes as indicative that something else is wrong (this refers to 2006 when Cam wasn’t here). When it is pointed out that Welker is leading the team in NE as well, you say it is because Moss is double-covered. This further weakens your case, since Chambers wasn’t feared enough to be double-covered most of the time.
I do disagree with the Chambers trade, I did not disagree with Welker (although I WAS saddened). I loved him, but not NEARLY AS MUCH as Chambers. Chambers didn't ACCIDENTALLY end up the teams 4th all-time reciever behind the Mark's brothers and Irvin Fryer (without Marino to boot). Not only do I think it was a terrible decision, to do it week 6, and SURRENDER the season was a slap in the face to ALL.
You are happy to use statistics to make your points – “LOOK IT UP” – someone looks it up and finds that Chambers trails almost every other starting receiver in the league in all the important stats and suddenly your eyes and what you see trump everything else.
I was simply stating that he DID NOT lead the league in dropped passes as everyone seems to claim. I don't think that those Metrics/stats give a fair indication of his ability, or lack therof, PERIOD
On and on and on you go and then have the nerve to say, “You guys NEVER STOP huh?” It is too funny and you’re the joke, Marc.
Obviously, we can go back and forth FOREVER. I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree because you'll never convince me and vice versa. I AM a die-hard fan, which is why I get so aggitated when I see a team that I love dismantled, gutted, and embarrassed.
Oh, and - Cut the coach some slack.
I WILL NOT. He's done NOTHING to deserve such behavior. Or, are you one that believes he single-handedly "MADE" Brown? Brown has ALWAYS been a force!
What he HAS done is manage to lose every single game so far, make questionable calls and decisions. Had his hand in questionable personnel moves. Made a once proud franchise with the FEWEST penalties in the league one with TONS of mistakes! (Sorry, I didn't look up the stats to determine if it's the most or not, but I'm positive it's close) Last time I checked, conditioning, game preparation, penalties, and mental errors fall on the coaches head. I think we can all agree that we've seen some pretty terrible Dolphin's teams over the last decade, but NEVER have I seen a team THIS terrible. If it's not the staff's fault. Where does the blame lie?
Ron, I'm not smiling, but I AM, IMPATIENTLY awaiting Beck. I'll stake my reputation (or lacktherof) on the fact he's the real deal! I don't see any reason to wait ANY longer. Will Cam start him before he's 30?
I have said time and time again that Cam Cameron is the wrong coach for this team, however as with the mistakes we've made over the past 10 years, we're an extremely slow organization to learn and admit our faults. The guy is getting away with murder and the Miami media and fans are letting him get away with it. Examples: Here's the guy that told the owner that we were a couple of players away from being a championship Team, hence the Joey Porter decision, there's no doubt in my mind that he was a key player in the Trent Green(holding out for a higher draft pick whichy never happened) and Daunte Culpepper(The man was totally disrespected by Miami) decisons, both bundaggles, remember early in the pre-season when he made the comment that "he wanted to see his players fail and see how they came back from it", hey I got news for you, a good head coach would never put his players in a position to fail, He is the one that had Ronnie Brown still in the game when he got hurt, which we were trailing I believe by 42-7, we need to find out if John Beck can play, etc., etc., etc. Cam is a good offensive coordinator, however mark my word, Cam Cameron will be fired within a year due to his head coaching incompetence. He is not the type of coach that is needed for a re-building Team. Hey Wayne, give me $1M a year and I'll bring you an 8-8 Team!! Pleassssse get rid of this incompetent guy.
Hey, Mr. Anonymous, why don't you take a name so we can 'mark your word' and shower you with praise for making the prediction about the coach when it comes true?
I think the one that fits perfectly is 'Mr. Bundaggles'.
So, Mr. Bundaggles, how can we laugh at you as an anonymous poster when your 'marked word' turns to dust and Cameron turns out to be the coach we've been waiting to take us to the promised land?
Either way, think about it.
Mr. Marc, it seems you expect the coach to wave a magic wand and make it all perfect within less than half a season. You expect his every move to be perfection. Why not let things play out a while? You might be surprized.
Personally, I think YOUR observations are insufficient evidence to prematurely condemn Cameron to the ash heap. It is, of course, your prerogative to make your pronouncements, but wiser, more seasoned observers, might counsel a little patience. Mueller and Cameron are experienced professionals; what are your credentials?
In other words, I think you need to cut the coach a little slack.
Is there an echo in here?
It's just funny reading some of these blogs. You all sound like Red Sox fans back in the 90's...when they weren't as good as they are today...The Dolphins are in transition. The worst that you can do in transition is fire coaches. The dolphins just need some consistency... and that has to start from "the top". For the past 8 years...there have been how many different coaches and coordinators? The dolphins have to start over. Stop signing older veterans, and start making smart draft choices...Look at the pats. They had an older defence than anyone in the league when they beat the rams to win their first super bowl. They drafted right, they mixed in the new guys with the old and it was a smooth transition. The dolphins just haven't done that...and now its going to take time to fix. Stop complaining, just sit and support what's being done instead of blaming. Give them the chance to succeed and make the right decisions.
You fools in the press need to stop complaining! Reporters have been so hungry to tear up a coach for not winning, not finding the next Dan Marino! In my opinion Wanny made some questionable moves, yes, but why did he make those moves? To save his job! Wanstadt wasn't such a bad coach, the DEF was good. His biggest mistake was refusing to draft O-line! So we were originally set back buy three things 1. no Marino 2. Wanstadt forced by press to make stupid moves, to save job! 3. Wanstadts refusal to draft O-line.
So to sumarize, reporters quit complaining! Give a coach some time! We can't start over agian! Really we've accomplished alot now that Cam is here. We still have same old problems before Cam got here. 1. no DB's 2. Aging DEF 3. no QB (Lemon good backup, thanks CAM, didn't cost draft pic) This is why were losing, not Cam's fault. We've been teribale on O-line and at RB for a few seasons! Cam fixed O-line and RB situation in 5 games! We've stockpiled draft pics, were doing the right things, so quiet down! If you think Wes Welker is anything but a #3 WR, your wrong! He's to small to get open consistanly as #2 WR. He ain't that fast either! Without Moss pulling off the coverage, Welker ain't nothng great!
Bring Don Shula back ASAP!
Please.
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