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Monday, October 15, 2007

Food for thought on a Dolphins morality play

The security camera tape of Joey Porter and his posse beating up Cincinnati offensive tackle Levi Jones in Las Vegas this offseason is disgusting.

It's not so much that Porter shows his violent unruly side; it's that there is no sportsmanship in a fight in which Porter and three thugs jump Jones while he is alone. The 4-on-1 blitz isn't a fair match and consequently isn't much of a fight.

The tape was leaked, no doubt by Jones or one of his lawyers, to Fox Sports, which aired it over the weekend. On Monday, Dolphins coach Cam Cameron was asked if he had seen the tape and expected to further discipline Porter, who happens to be Miami's strongside linebacker.

"I have not seen it and in my view he has handled it exactly the way you would want a guy to handle it," Cameron said. "The league has ruled on it. It’s over. It’s done.”

Well, not really. You see, the Dolphins have generally been a class organization in dealing with off-field incidents. The team seemed to occupy the moral high ground when dealing with off-field incidents involving Kelly Campbell and Fred Evans this offseason, even to the detriment of the roster in the releasing of Evans. And, obviously the club condoned the NFL game-check sanctions on Porter when he did his misdeed.

So given that stance, one could understand the team's silence in dealing with Ricky Williams. It is pretty much assumed if Williams is ever reinstated from his jillionth drug suspension the Dolphins will wipe their hands of him somehow, because everyone assumes, Cameron doesn't want that kind of questionable character on his team.

One could have zero problem with this logic until now because, after all, a coach has the prerogative to determine the character of his team by picking, or not picking, certain players.

But now, given the terrible portrait of Porter we see in this video, one has to wonder how the Dolphins can sincerely make a case to not reclaiming Williams based on character issues while keeping Porter who apparently has different and more disturbing character issues.

Understand that Williams is a flake and obviously has an addiction problem. But he has never violently attacked anyone and certainly hasn't done so in an unfair 4-on-1 mugging. He may not fit the Dolphins any more based on aptitude, but his attitude when he's around the team has been exemplary.

And so the Dolphins have a decision to make. Maybe they don't keep Williams because his value is diminished or the team simply wants to move on. But following this Porter tape release, the Dolphins have no moral grounds to stand on if they're going to argue character is the reason for not bringing back the running back.


Anonymous Kurt In Tampa said...

Well, you make sense. I may be a little prejudice in this manner.

I feel most people don't understand Social Anxiety Disorder and most people don't realize that Ricky's drug of choice is not only known by doctors to help many with the disorder, but it is actually legally recomended\prescribed for it by doctors in 12 states.

Putting that asside Ricky doesn't have run ins with the law, doesn't beat women, doesn't in any way shape or form resemble the thugs (Thug Johnson in Houston, Pacman and Joey...) that seem to be prevalent accross the league.

By all reasonable standards Ricky is pretty much a good guy, whom I'd probably trust running a day care center.

12:24 AM  
Anonymous ceed said...

joey porter what a waste of a human being this guy is. why is it that the phins weren't curious as to why the steelers couldn't wait to get rid of this guy who was the face of their defense for years? everybody on this blog seems so fickle first everyone was calling ronnie brown a bust and now they keep saying hes our only good offensive player. when you predicted us to go 10-6 everybody else predicted the same thing. are we gonna win 10 in a row? when you said we should trade jason tayl;or everybody keeps writing in saying we should dump him and zach thomas. that's ridiulous people complain about no loyalty in sports these days so why wouldn't we want these guys to retire as dolphins? some thoughts for first round picks next year would be dan connor at olb mike jenkins at corner jake long at tackle and kenny phillips at safety. might as well start looking now cause i don't see us doing much this year, although i will go on record saying that i think we will beat the patriots this weekend. oh yea and i don't have a problem bringing ricky williams back if he gets reinstated but don't really have a problem with us trading him either. cutting him would be stupid and would be pissed if we did because he has to have some value somewhere.

12:31 AM  
Blogger lacesoutdan said...

"By all reasonable standards Ricky is pretty much a good guy"

...except for those 3 illegitimate children he owes child support to.

9:36 AM  
Blogger H.C.D. said...

I don't know what it is, but I have a serious man-crush on Ricky Williams. I'm like a girlfriend who doesn't learn when her man is beating the crap out of her and rips her heart out of her chest, only to keep coming back for more.

I've said it before and I'll keep saying it. I want to see #34 suit up and play for the Dolphins again. Maybe I'm an idiot, maybe I'm a fool, but I still believe that Ricky Williams can help this team, because Ronnie can't do it all on his own.

Its true that we cannot put Ricky in the same camp as the THUGS. Yes, I'm talking about the Dante Halls, Joey Porters, Pacman Jones, and Chris Henry group. Ricky is a strange being that suffers from things that 99.9% of us can never understand.

If he does come back, I'm just not sure I can take the heartbreak if he blows it again.

As for the Joey Porter video, isn't it funny that he hasn't made a tackle like in the video on the actual playing field? He probably hurt his knee during that scuffle too, which is why he sucks now.

Armando, great post today. Its a good argument.

Lets get the PREDATOR back....before its too late. (although its probably too late)

10:10 AM  
Blogger mike said...

You want to see him play again because he's nasty. Funny how he is so looked down upon..but I don't think Bret Favre was forced to miss one game when he was shoving Class A pain killers down his throat. Such BS.

10:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Porter was just trying to make something happen.

11:02 AM  
Blogger Marc said...

Who cares? Armando, what the hell does this have to do with the current state of the team? I don't think we were worried about morality when we had Ricky; he was ALWAYS trouble! I would suck a dick to have DeAngelo Hall, which I've mentioned several times, and noticed you have too. Who cares if Porter beat the hell out of an elderly woman? We ALL thought his signing would strengthen an already strong defense.(unless you count the secondary that everyone with half a brain knew was done 3 years ago) Well, we were all wrong; THAT'S the issue!

11:52 AM  
Blogger Chris said...

I saw the video and, quite frankly, was unmoved. It was a fight. It's over and done with. Porter's was punished. We should move on.


11:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where can I find this video. Damn now Im having that split backfield fantasy again, the one two punch with ronnie n ricky again. Damn just imagine if instead of it beeing rickys first year back n ronnies first year, it was 3rd year ronnie and 1800 ricky.....drooooll.

12:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At least Ted Ginn Jr. comes from a good family.

1:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a hindsight view. The video was leaked after the punishments by the league were made. You want the Dolphins to now either punish Porter more or allow Williams back based on this? What a joke. NYJeff

2:39 PM  
Blogger oye, come esta tu esteak? said...

Yo B, don't you think you're nitpicking just a bit? I mean yeah, like, you're pee-ode and so am I. But pal, c'mon B. Who gives a mierda about Levi? Joey deserves to be harshed on, yes, but pal, let me ask you this: How can you sit there and put most of the blame on Joey? Si senor, he stinks and deserves blame! But, pal, I CALL OUT CAM! YUNNO WHY? I KNOW YOU KNOW WHY, PAL. The contract is guaranteed, so the phinz won't cut him. I swear to god, if Trent takes another snap at QB for the phinz -- I'm gonna go off, pal! ... Word B. #1 pick? Who? I heard they traded Chambers? Finally, Cam uses his balls instead of his heart ...

3:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bring Riky back, get rid of Cameron, would rather see a productive pot head than a DOPE.

3:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ricky Back??
I'm torn on this.
1. He is a great running back.
2. He is unreliable.
But all this woul be mute if the drug testing in the NFL would stick to its intent and test for only preformance enhancing drugs.I dont know of anyone who thinks Pot makes you run faster.
If you cant play because you smoked some pot ,,then you should not be able to play on any pain medication. They do more to enhance you abilitys than Pot dose.

As far as the Porter he is a Punk want-to-be gangster,,how can some one that is sapose to be collage educated, and a so called proffessional. Act like that. A Thug..Bench him,,dont pay him,,and trade him,,,he would be no loss.


3:13 PM  
Anonymous Tim Parker said...

Off topic completely, but aren't the dolphins suppose to be 5-1 right now??????

3:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

maybe Jones will press charges and the dolphins will be able to release Porter and recover some of the signing bonus

3:28 PM  
Anonymous Kid Neutron said...

Hey Armando - PFT says we traded Chambers to Chargers for a second round pick in 08 - can you confirm?

3:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ricky has value.. I bet that Tampa Bay would have loved to have picked him up! Maybe the Commish is punishing the fins by not acting on the reinstatement in a timely fashion! As for Joey.. I saw somebody getting their butt kicked. I could not hear why or do not know what happened before the fight started. I know that if I was going to take on a big O-Lineman you can bet that I'd have backup too! The problem with Porter is his play and how he has not fit with the defense! He was given punishment by the league office! He didn't dish out his own punishment. He also, like a man, said 'Guilty'! He isn't running from that!

It would be nice to get the one-two of Brown-Williams back but now is not the right time.. Keep his rights and trade them if possible! Too many other things to work on right now!

Lets get back to the team issues, Please!

FinFan in Milton, FL

3:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chambers trade confirmed on NFL.COM

3:43 PM  
Anonymous johnny jets hater said...

Trade Joey???? Trade Joey to who?? Lets focus on what is now! The future state of the Dolphins is probably more scary than the current state. We have no idea if John Beck is the real deal. Ronnie Brown is the real deal, but how old will he be and how many carries will he have by the time things get figured out? Our O-line (at the beginning of the season was the biggest ? mark) is coming together. Our defense is in horrible financial shape and getting older by the second. We have so much money committed to Zack, Jason, Joey and Jason Allen, we can't even begin to think about rebuilding without cutting our losses. I saw sparks of Ted Ginn on Sunday that give me hope (but then again I am dolphin fan...hope is all I have). We need to pull the ship into port, overhaul the entire product and then set out to sail. The damage is to much to just fix on the fly. I love JT and Zack, but they deserve a winner and I am dolphin fan first and foremost and have been for 30 years. I want the team to be better, even if it means 2 years of purging and the pain of seeing our guys in different uniforms. The only thing I ask is tell us where we are going. Come on Randy, Come on Cam just tell us it is going to be 2 or 3 years of rebuilding and then we are going to be a contender! I see bright lights like Satele and Maui...please let us know what the plan is!

3:46 PM  
Anonymous Brian said...

Hats off to you Armando and most of your readers who get what a waste of a human Porter is. That chicklet tooth punk should be in jail.

5:20 PM  
Blogger mike said...

Traded Chambers to the Chargers...Speak Armando!

5:32 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

I'm sitting here seriously contemplating why I'm even a fan any longer. Why should I be? Why should I invest my emotions in something that (obviously) doesn't love me back?
Why? Because before I was born (1978) we had the only undefeated team ever? Because I grew up a fan, and through those years I got to watch the greatest coach and Quarterback in history play? (Only to be discarded as if they were on the practice squad) Because there are players on this team that I've grown to love as much as the team? (Those players get cut/traded/released as often as I go through girls I meet at the local watering holes)
Because the owner decides to raise ticket prices, do MILLIONS in upgrades to the stadium, and allows it to be shared with pee-wee football and baseball players? Because we go through coaches as often as players? Because Zach said we have no identity as a defense, well, we have no identity as a TEAM!? Because I'm from Orlando? (Hell, I'm not even from Miami, I could choose Jacksonville OR Tampa and noone would be the wiser) Because I've been a fan my whole life? Because once upon a time I was PROUD to be a fan due to always being a contendor? Because for some sick reason I have loyalty to an IDEA (It's impossible to have loyalty to the players or the staff for aformentioned reasons)

Basically, I've lost almost all faith and I'm desperatly struggling, trying to find ANY reason why I should remain loyal to this team. Why I should spend my hard-earned cash to support a team that writes me off with the same frequency it does it's roster. A team, that's really not a team. Can ANYONE please give me ONE REASON?!

6:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll give you one marc, cause its football. stop beeing so dramatic. So what we are gunna have a bad year, doesnt mean anything but a great draft position this year. Lets face it we were not going to go to the playoffs this year, so what did you want? 6 wins and a shitty draft position, or a great one. Look at the bright side, our team is full of young talent, Ronnie B, Channin, Hagan, Ginn(fuck all of you haters, kid has extreme promiss) and a ton more. Chambers is gone, and we can gt a solid D lineman out of that pick or even a good young corner. This team has competed and been in every game, hell we were down 24,27 at the end of that last game and lead the cowboys in the 3rd.

Stop fucking crying, it football. If you cant think of a reason to be a fan go route for the pats. Shit is so stupid. A bad season only means a future with ronnie, with vince, reggie, peterson. Be happy that even though we are 0-6 we are still a decent team with a chance to win each of those 6. Give us a solid draft(stop freakin hating on ginn I swear) and another year for our rooks to learn and we can be right there in the wildcard talk in 1-2 years. Shit we are 0-6 and are only 1 game behind 2nd in our division.

So sick of al you cry babies. Trading in years of great memories becasue of one bad season, go route for the jags or the bucs and leave the phins to real fans.


6:21 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

Fuck you coward. One bad season? Are you fucking kidding me? Where the hell have you been? Brown is in the same posistion Chambers was 4 years ago. Do you think the team will reward him, you or I for his loyalty during these dismal seasons? You can bet your ass they won't. They will discard him with the rest of the superstars.

6:43 PM  
Blogger mike said...

funny that Brown is just starting to break out now that Cameron is coach. Didn't he coach another running back to greatness to? All with what was supposed to be the worst line in the league.

6:49 PM  
Blogger mike said...

and hey Marc, Chambers was only a superstar for one seasons. I like him a lot...and feel some sadness for him leaving. But I think it was the right move. He was our best receiver..but he isn't a #1 receiver a lot of other teams out there. We only got a 2nd rounder cuz Norv Turner has a crush on him and they are hurting for a reciever to help them now.

6:52 PM  
Anonymous Kurt In Tampa said...


A couple things, we don't know dick (nor is it any of our business) about the circumstances of Ricky's kids.

a. He may be paying child support (if he wasn't I'm sure it would be plastered on every news paper).

b. We don't know the nature of his relationships with the mothers before or after getting pregnant.

c. Lastly, and I'm not saying this is the case, but some or all of those women may have chosen to get pregnant, they certainly all chose to go to term and keep their babies.

So in summary your remarks were minimally un-cool and un called for and maximally in-appropriate.

6:53 PM  
Anonymous NYScott said...

Mando, I think the main point about not bringing Ricky back should have nothing to do with his character and everything to do with the fact you can't trust the guy. If I were Cameron and you guys asked me why I didn't want Ricky my answer would be simple, we don't trust him to be here for his team or his teammates when they need him the most. That's it,end of story. Why would you cut Cobbs who earned a spot on the roster and bring in Ricky who most likely will fail another drug test and be kicked out of the league? Answer,,you wouldn't. And if anyone thinks he wont fail again please tell me where this trust is coming from. Hasn't he done enough damage to this team already? Am I the only one who sat in shock at 2am watching sportscenter as they announced Ricky was retiring days before training camp? He screwed us over plenty of times and I for one don't want to give him a chance to do it again.

7:15 PM  
Anonymous oscar_g said...

Marc, Go find another blog.
You got issues, man.

Go Phins!!

7:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how am I a coward? for calling you out as a fair weather cry baby? Last time I checked, in the past 4 seasons, we only had 2 losing seasons. We went to the play offs, then picked up ronnie, went 500 with a brand new coach, then had our player win DMVP. Oh thats right, im a coward because I have faith in my team, beacue I look at the positives, sorry, maybe I should just cry about my potentional top 3 draft pick next year, woe is me. BTW I live in orlando too right now, so first dont call me a coward, second go route for the bucs like the rest of these fake ass fans.


7:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And another thing, ronnie picked up the biggest rookie rb contract in nfl history, you wanna bet we are gunna trade him before throwing a franchise tag on the 24 year old? Tell Ricky to pass the blunt to the man on the left because youve had too much. Chambers hasnt caught a TD in 14 games now. He was our number 1 WR. Hell last year our freaking slot receiver had more catches and yards and our number 2 receiver had more TDs. Only thing he lead the team with is drops(randy may have had as many. Also 4 years ago chambers was in his 9th year, ronnie is a junior, dont even compare. Im hurt to see chambers go dont get me wrong, but it was for the good of our team. He cant demand double teams anymore and he cant hold on to the ball. So what the hell is your point?


8:08 PM  
Anonymous oscar_g said...

You tell'em fins4life!

8:51 PM  
Blogger Troy said...

In response to a post about Ricky Williams owing child support. A judge decided that Ricky Williams had to set up a $300,000 trust fund, and pay $54,000 a year for only one of his children when the man didn't even have a job. The judge declared he had to pay this because he had the potential to earn this. We all have the potential to earn that much, but we don't have to pay it. While it should also be stated that no child needs that much money to be taken care of. Any judge who believes children should have $300,000 trust funds is simply a fool. It is unfortunate that Ricky is so often a victim of disgustingly corrupt society.

9:41 PM  
Blogger wyoming85 said...

We are in the shape we are in from trades like Ricky's

He cost us two first round picks to go out of country to smoke it up!

Use him and abuse him and trade him in the off season for a hand full of magic beans, or what ever else we can get!!

9:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why dont you become a Dallas fan,,that way you can be like all the other idiots from all over the country that saport them because they have great marketing. Become generic. Being a fan means thick and thin, good times and bad.
Or just support who ever won the Last Super Bowl every year.
Its a good thing your not from Michigan,Arizona,or any of the other 1 team states. You would have to go out of state to find your next team to sapport when yours is not living up to your exspectations.
Please do Go to another team..that wahy you can go bitch in thier blogs, and we wont have to hear from you any more.

9:19 AM  

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