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Saturday, October 20, 2007

Class wins out in Green-Cameron disagreement

Quarterback Trent Green is on injured reserve as of a couple of hours ago and that signals the Dolphins know what they're doing on this front.

As you may know, two days ago I wrote an column about the little drama playing out between Green and Dolphins head coach Cam Cameron. Green, talking about being recovered from his Grade III concussion, was putting the Dolphins in something of a tough position because he wanted to get back on the field and they had zero intentions of letting him play again.

I wrote that Cameron and Green -- two classy individuals and friends -- disagreed on the course of action for the vet the rest of the season. While Green wanted to play, Cameron didn't want the player anywhere near the field for myriad reasons including the fact he's concerned about Green's and the team's health.

The team's healthy, you ask? One reason I should have mentioned it was bad for Miami to let Green play again this season is he could then creep closer to the 70 percent playtime figure that would cause the Dolphins to send Kansas City a fourth-round instead of a fifth-round draft pick. Another reason the Dolphins would have been hurt is it would have stunted the growth of Cleo Lemon and John Beck as quarterbacks.

I'm happy to report the two sides now have come to an agreement. Green, despite not getting his way, is showing the personal class and respect for Cameron I would have expected.

“I appreciate the way the organization has handled this,” Green said in a statement. “I realize this is in the best interest of my long-term health and I want nothing but the best for the team. Right now I haven’t made any decisions about my future, but I talked with the Dolphins about staying involved in some capacity the rest of the season.”

This has been a good week. The Dolphins on this front come out smelling like a rose -- a rose in an 0-6 flower garden, but a rose nonetheless.



Anonymous finndolphan said...

if they put him on ir can he still be involved with mentoring the other qb's on the sidelines? if they have no intentions of playing him they should do this as it frees up a roster spot on a team that needs to look at as many players as they can for next year!also i don't understand the lack of activity with the practice squad given the lack of talent on the team,there should be a revolving door of players getting looks!

2:44 PM  
Anonymous phinfanphil said...

Both are "class individuals."

Its clear, Armando, you don't know what the definition of class is.

Cam Cameron is about as far from classy as a head coach can be. I guess you're memory is short, though his classlessnewss is evident often, the most egregious example is of course his mishandling of Daunte.

2:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Armando, any idea of who they are going to sign as a 3rd QB?

2:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am so sick of people acting like Culpepper was treated poorly.

The man can't make quick reads and has never been a good pocket passer. Cameron's offense relies on good pocket passers and quick thinkers...So, Daunte new what was up.
Then Miami picks up Trent...Writing on the wall? Cam not saying anything?
Then Cam and Pepper have a talk which probably went like this..."We are looking to trade you and would like to knowyour opinion on possible teams you like. If a trade cannot be done we will release you before the start of camp"

Then that M.F. goes screaming about how he is being mishandled and how he wont except...ANY TRADE.
Screw Mr. Culpepper and his still bumb knee. The man should have at least took a class in class back in college.
He coulnd't even get a long with an agent for bloody sake.

2:55 PM  
Blogger Armando Salguero said...

Green can and will still be involved as a mentor, though I don't know how eager he is to do that.

The Dolphins filled his roster spot by promoting kerry Reed from the practice squad.

And as to Cameron's class, I doubt someone who has never met nor spoken to him, but merely forms an opinion from a distance is equiped to make that call.

2:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said... have no clue. Of course Armando eloquently pointed that out in his reply. Daunte pulled strings and played angles that lead to the treatment he received.

This is a business...and CAM is the COACH...not the GM. If you STILL have an issue about he way it was to Randy.

Both Trent and Cam are very classy guys, and I hope Trent considers coaching. He would make a great OC/QB coach for Cam next season!


3:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks Armando!

A few random thoughts and observations...

This, to me, it the best possible scenario for Trent, and for the Dolphins. I hope Mr. Mueller is on the lookout for a QB with winning experience to bring in as a backup. Just please don't let it be Drew Bledsoe.

Smart decision Trent. I think you should try your hand at coaching.

People still clamor to bring back Daunte, and I just don't see what you're fussing about. Culpepper is playing just as poorly with the Raiders as he did with the Dolphins, and I thought Cleo showed good athleticism last Sunday. I hope his reads get better, and I sure hope we see fireworks with Ginn playing a more prominent role.

Go Dolphins!!!

Time to rise up and return to glory.

3:13 PM  
Anonymous Patrick said...

woInteresting no one is screaming about the complete waste of a 5th round draft pick used for Green... I suppose it is water under the bridge now but how many draft picks have we given up for wash out QBs in the last 5 years? I can't even remember, at least two 2nds and two 5ths. Add Beck to the mix and you're talking three 2nds.

Like I said, it's under the bridge but these are the types of mistakes that have brought this franchise to its knees. The point is Wayne wants to have a management review to see what went wrong, hello, it's pretty obvious what went wrong. Bonehead personnel decisions and those were made by the boneheaded coaches and GMs that were hired by the boneheaded president and CEO.

Look Wayne, you don't have football people at the top of the organization and shite rolls downhill. Now you're going to ask those people who made those fateful decisions to figure out what's wrong? Look dude, how many people are going to turn around and say I'm the problem. Just fire me, I'm a bonehead!

Bring in some football people to have a look, hell bring in the bloggers here and you'll get a better opinion than listing to the boneheads who got you here.

I'll quit ranting now...

Repeat after me, not on God's-green-earth will the Dolphins beat the Patriots. Keep repeating it, the football Gods don't like it when you try to make decisions for them!

3:24 PM  
Anonymous Trenton said...

Armando, it never fails to amaze me how people think they know what they're talking about based on what they hear on radio or read in the paper, or see on TV.

Phinfanphil proves my point.

3:34 PM  
Anonymous Scott said...


You have a very short memory.. do you not remember how bad Duante was last year, after he said he was going to be "ready" and then stopped his re-hab? The guy completed 5 passes against us and wasn't the reason for the Phins loss to Oakland, the 299yds rushing was.

I still think that the Green signing was a good idea, even though it didn't work out. We needed to bridge the gap to Beck, who I hope gets some starts after the bye week.

4:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dumbte Crapooper sucks. He is fat, lazy, selfish, and stupid. He is a team cancer and a locker room poison. He sucks.

Anyways, Green may have disagreed with the desicion, but this was ABSOLUTELY the right thing to do. Green needs to think of his long-term health, not the 2007 season.

5:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Best thing for both sides. I'm relieved this is over. Now I really want to see Beck starting by the Bills game.

Ken in San Diego

6:31 PM  
Anonymous Germany speaking said...

So in 1.5 years we gave away two second rounders and two fifth rounders for our starting QB - and who is it? Cleo Lemon - we could have had this much cheaper!!!

So instead of
Culpepper - Jennings or Hester
so we would not need GINN and have Willis
Beck - Ugoh
Harrington - who knows
Green - who knows


7:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WE should play Beck in ENgland Baby. Make our fans across the pond excited to see something new.

Curious if the NFL office is calling down to Huizenga and asking for a little spice to that coming game. Curious and more curious.

7:54 PM  
Anonymous Pollyanna said...

Two classy individuals is right. I believe this is the correct move. Cam you imagine how Daunte would have reacted in the same situation? I can, and it's not pretty.

I hope the Dolphins find a way to keep Trent involved.

8:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yo Bro! Why are you babbling about 'class'? This idiot Scam brought this damaged goods has been to win now, not mentor Beck. Green is selfish. He wants to play, not mentor. He didn't come here to mentor. Can't you get it in your head that Cam is a BUST. Why are U still portraying him & the front office as smelling like roses? The only thing I smell, along w/ everthing else this pee-wee coach has been involved with rhyms with HIT and starts with S. Think you might be in an New England garden by anychance? If not pass me whatever your smokin'...I could use a hit!

10:36 PM  
Anonymous jed said...

A lot of deranged commenters here, you'd think the Dolphin front office is the stuff of genious the way some people here opine.

Folks: the Dolphins are 0-6, tied for the worst record in the league and about to be 0-7 after the Patriots shellack them on Sunday. Get a grip, see reality..your Dolphin world is failing you, and that begins with Cam, who is indeed a class-less individual.

That said, putting Green on IR was a positive step forward.

11:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes jed, we all agree that this season is a wash, and the Dolphins most likely will be taken to school tomorrow by Brady and the Patriots.

If you had been PAYING ATTENTION, you would know that regardless of record, Cam Cameron has done exactly what he said he would do with the Offense. Look at Ronnie Brown's excellent play as proof. It seems to me, the biggest mistake he's made are to overestimate his Defensive Coordinator and a few game time blunders. Need you be reminded that there is are a list of Super Bowl winning coaches who sucked their first year as coach? Bill Belichick included. He spent FIVE dismal seasons in Cleveland. Please do us all a favor, and do a little research before making ridiculous comments.

As for the anonymous coward posting ahead of you, Trent Green was brought to Miami so that young Beck could see how a professional QB handles himself, and to win. As we all know now, the Defense failed magnificently in the first 6 games, and that's why we are losing, not because of the coaching job that Cameron has done.

Go Cam! Go Dolphins!!!

12:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Herald, could you make this comment box a little larger? It's really hard to catch all the typos in this window.

is are. Bah! Humbug!


12:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Obviously as a fan, since 84, I'm disappointed in how this team has been managed. I haven't spent a dime on team goods because I do disagree with the decisions made. But I also know that all professional sports thrive on two levels: luck and cycle. All the good teams will suck at some point unless they accidently unearth a Tom Brady. Everybody goes through this and it's incredibly difficult to relate my team to the horrible Jets or Patriots from years ago. However, I won't be negative as some fans because it creates an environment, a fan base of fickle fans. I do want accountability but negativity rarely helps. I love this team, I hope that Lemon is unearthed as a winner by accident or Beck is who we hope he might be. I believe, if all healed up, this defense can recover if they are coached well. The GM and HC have made some moves to empower the coaches to get the younger talent on the field. I love the Miami Dolphins and I want accountability for past drafts that have gone south, those coaches are gone now and the team has to move forward. I look forward to seeing this team developed. I want JT to retire a dolphin rather than Joey Porter.

Peace out

10:26 AM  
Anonymous Patrick said...

Good article this morning Armando! I've been yelling for the charade to end for a long time. I really don't mind watching the team rebuild if we truly believe we are in a rebuilding mode. I think all we ask for as fans is for the organization to be honest and have a plan.

Players like JT and Zack are the leaders of this team and it's a bad team. I think they may have given in to being bad a long time ago because they saw the lack of talent but were spouting the corporate line. They may actually play better now because they can be free to say the teams sucks.

10:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Case of sour grapes. ha ha

The savior (TrInt Green) is on IR for life, the so called mentees (or should I say manatees) cant win a single game.

So what do the fans do - start abusing DC. I would have loved to see ur faces when he ran what was it 3 TD on ur sorry team. (he may not win a single game I dont care - but the lashing he dished out to u all was worth it) - u all deserve it.

Guess what this pathetic franchise deserves what it is getting - I say at least 3 or 4 years of 0-16.

And what abt ur fancy 1st round return man - dosent he average negative yards (ok well that was brutal & kinda not true - i should not do that, but since the wounds are open I thought I will sprinkle some more salt on them.)

11:51 AM  

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