Parcells and Cameron meet, nothing decided
Bill Parcells arrived at Dolphins camp at 7:30ish Tuesday, with a healthy breakfast in tow -- a 7-11 Big Gulp.
Cam Cameron arrived around three hours later.
The two met around noonish and when all was said and done ... nothing was decided.
As I have been reporting, Cameron's fate will likely not be decided until after Parcells hires a new general manager. That might happen as early as Wednesday. And the decision on Cameron would likely soon follow.
Parcells was scheduled to dine with with Dallas personnel man Jeff Ireland this evening. I do not know for sure, but I am assuming the Big Tuna will ask Ireland about Tony Sparano and their relationship while both were at Dallas.
Mr. Tuna wants his general manager and coach to be compatible so it's important that Ireland give Sparano the thumbs up. That would work against Cameron because Cameron and Ireland don't have a history together best I can tell.
What is working on Cameron's behalf? Two things: Parcells respects Bobby Knight's opinion and Knight has given Cameron an endorsement. Also, Parcells, a former coach, understands that a coach's record is not always the best indicator of his ability and is aware Cameron's 2007 Dolphins suffered a bunch of injuries.
Anyway, I'll be back at work Wednesday when things are likely to happen.
Cam Cameron arrived around three hours later.
The two met around noonish and when all was said and done ... nothing was decided.
As I have been reporting, Cameron's fate will likely not be decided until after Parcells hires a new general manager. That might happen as early as Wednesday. And the decision on Cameron would likely soon follow.
Parcells was scheduled to dine with with Dallas personnel man Jeff Ireland this evening. I do not know for sure, but I am assuming the Big Tuna will ask Ireland about Tony Sparano and their relationship while both were at Dallas.
Mr. Tuna wants his general manager and coach to be compatible so it's important that Ireland give Sparano the thumbs up. That would work against Cameron because Cameron and Ireland don't have a history together best I can tell.
What is working on Cameron's behalf? Two things: Parcells respects Bobby Knight's opinion and Knight has given Cameron an endorsement. Also, Parcells, a former coach, understands that a coach's record is not always the best indicator of his ability and is aware Cameron's 2007 Dolphins suffered a bunch of injuries.
Anyway, I'll be back at work Wednesday when things are likely to happen.
posted by Armando Salguero at 7:39 PM
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Mando, thanks for the update and have a great New Year... Looking forward to a resolution, one way or another.
Sure you can use injuries as an excuse for Cameron's poor record. But the fact of the matter is, if Parcells actually bothers to watch the games, he will realize there is no reason to keep Cameron. Cameron continually showed poor use of the clock & timeouts. For example, Cameron calls multiple timeouts on the Phins last offensive drive against the Giants (instead of saving them for defense). Thanks for giving us a chance to win the game Cam! So glad I flew all the way to London to watch you burn your timeouts on offense & give your team NO CHANCE to win the game!! I can't wait until the day you are fired. I will be having a party! Hope you fall forward fast to the unemployment line!
IN PARCELLS WE TRUST. Unless of course he keeps Cameron. This clown has got to go. Cameron is a good man . But the guy can not coach. This is coach Wanny all over again. Please Parcells, get rid of this clown. The players do not respect him. P.S. I wonder if Cameron will call the Miami Herald and have my comments removed. Seems he spends most of his time on the internet reading these blogs instead of coaching the team...
SO glad you are looking forward to the coming weeks Cam. Parcells will make sure it is in the UNEMPLOYMENT LINE.
Injuries have ZERO to do with CaMoron's idiotic play calling, his lack of ability to give the best players playing time, his inability to draft the best players possible, his lack of fire and emotion, and his failing grade in game management.
FIRE HIM YESTERDAY!!! The fans do not care what Bobby Knight thinks!
New Year. New face of an organization. New hope. You'd be ignorant not to expect a new head coach.
There is not a prayer in the known universe that will save Cam Cameron, not even with Bobby Knight at the pulpit. Parcells has his name “stamped” on our future success. Do you really believe he'll ink that name on the likes of Cam Cameron? The disposition isn't potent enough. The leadership is in remission. And if the hearsay is to be believed, the work ethic is lacking.
The logic to Cameron still having office space in Davie is simply that it wouldn't be prudent to fire him when you are uncertain of what your new general manager may desire or what head coaches will be obtainable. Why would Parcells put himself in a position of having to hire a head coach who, much like Cameron was not to his preference, simply because the candidates Parcells truly coveted suddenly became unavailable? Keeping Cameron in the aforementioned circumstance would be the lesser of two evils. At the very least you’d have continuity in a coach who has a year of experience with the talent on his roster.
At any rate, Jeff Ireland is on the horizon, as is Ireland’s predilection of Cameron’s replacement, as is an entire new era for Miami and it’s most beloved of all franchises- our Dolphins.
Armando-
This is the best football blog bar none! Your sources are impeccable and you're usually right on. I think you should start referring to Parcells as "the wolf." Just like Harvey Keitel's character in Pulp Fiction, Parcells has been called in to clean up a pretty big mess.
cam cameron is done bye bye cam you go big tuna rid us all of this loser cameron!
Who is running this team? Why does a Bobby Knight endorsement matter? That is a stupid reason to keep a coach. Can we blame Knight if Cam is kept and we stink out loud next year? Can we hammer Texas Tech with emails and calls hammering Knight?
Man,
You guys are brutal on Cam! You have to blame most of the 'fins issues on his predecessors. 5+ years of poor decisions, drafting, etc caused this problem. Cam didn't do a great job and a new GM will want his choice for coach. Cam will be out - and that's fine. Somebody w/ fire & passion would be great and Cam doesn't possess those qualities. I wish Cam the best. Thanks for getting us some great draft picks. And I guess he leads by example because he wanted players to "fail forward fast" and getting canned after 1 year is failing really fast.
oh god, ive read every dolphin blog post from locals and you guys meet the greatest consensus of all time, FIRE CAM. There is no way Dolphins fans are going to sit through another contest with that meat head. Think if Parcells actually brought him back and he started 0-2, you all would be in the exact same boat again.
Cam, feel this fork, as you are done
I would like to point out to all of you that the "Great Savior" Bill Parcells only won 3 games his first year as head coach.
cameron is worse coach in dolphins history there is no way parcells is going to keep this loser sleep tight!
Anybody could have coached better than Cam. I know I could have because you cannot do worse
He played head games and favorites from day one, he thought he was of superior intellect and only served to isolate Jason Taylor, Ronnie Brown and a few others. Idiot moves and he, in the end, gets what he deserves.
Maybe Parcells was 0-3 with his first try at coaching, yet, I doubt the entire team thought he was an arrogant fool
Cam was out of his league with the draft, getting Ted Ginn and Lorenzo Booker. Players taht are great "final offensive pieces" for teams that need tweaks but not core players that would help start rebuilding a franchise. See positions like DE/DT, QB CB and OT.
No disrespect to Ginn, he will be fine once a real QB shows up, but my god, that was a stupid draft.
great point the current dolphins team hates cameron especially the vetrans.
So, we basically could have Bobby Knight decide who will coach the Miami Dolphins in 2008?
While I certainly don't disagree with the many comments regarding aspects of Cameron's coaching that weren't effected by injury--game decisions, basically--I do think it's fair to suggest that even coaches have a learning curve. This was Cam's first year, and improvement would not be unrealistic.
That said, I would hope, if nothing else, that The Tuna insists on a head coach and an offensive coordinator...and that these be two separate gentlemen.
I would personally prefer a new head coach...and to keep Cam as OC, a job he is clearly more cut out for.
Armando, when are you going to go through the long list or screwups team president Bryan Weedmeier has made down through the years.
You seem to give this guy a pass all the time, refusing to shine the light of accountability on him.
What he is like a buddy of yours?
Armando, even in this difficult year, your blog and columns kept my interest in the Dolphins.
I thank you for that. You are the man!!!
It really comes down to this: it's the NFL. The College stuff, Bobby Knight dictatorshiop, having a good history, it is totally meaningless, there is no room to do that in hte professional game.
And with Cam, sorry, but you cannot fail this badly in a passionate town like Miami.
I am near Oakland (just as passionate but far more crazy situation) and a respected guy like Art Shell is gone in a year. Few people were surprised last December. The Raiders didnt suffer.
The college mentality guys, like Nick Saban, Bobby Petrino and Cam Cameron cannot succeed in the pro world. Never again
They try to do more than is required and apply the wrong mentality.
The pro game is relatively simple, its about
1) having a franchise QB
2) having the right defensive scheme and players who get to the opposing QB.
The rest is down hill, make the players respect you but keep them happy, dont push them around and keep a little distance (don't be a Jim Mora!).
Cam, you just had no clue.
What a bunch of idiots.
Parcels says he wants to develop talent. He should start with Cameron. Cameron's weaknesses (sense of urgency, holding players acountable, game management and babysitting spoiled brats)are Parcels strengths.
Cameron did not cause this train to fall off the track, he just couldn't stop it.
We don't need another new offensive system (especially one based on strength not speed - it would invalidate last year's draft entirely). The offense needs to resign Hadnot, get a left tackle (then move Vernon to the right) and perhaps go after Ocho Cinco.
Give Beck some more time behind Green, but work him in so he will be competant in 2009 when hopefully we can start looking at post season again.
Let Parcels focus his personel managment and style on the Defense, it needs to get bigger and stronger up front and faster, smarter and meaner in pass coverage.
I just watched the whole painful season over again (Direct TV short cuts). The offense kept improving or recovering from injuries. For the most part (rookie QB jitters asside) it did OK until it had to play catch up because the Defense blew chunks on third down or simply let the other team score at will (often in the last two minutes of the first half or anytime in the 4th quarter).
The offense doesn't need nearly as much work as the defense, but it would if we have to start over again for like the 4th or 5th time in as many years.
In the NFL QB and defense are the only things that matter.
You have them or you dont.
Starting over from scratch doesnt matter -- get a QB or it wont matter, draft three if you have to and find one, it will be worth it.
Also, Hire OJ McDuffie as wide reciever's coach. He will turn Ginn, Hagan (who was known in college for not dropping balls) and (our Hero!) Camarillo into one hell of a squad.
BTW OJ would be the type of guy Tuna would apreciate - he would be on their arses till they ran propper routes, were fearless in traffic and knew how to adjust to blitzes about to blow up their QB.
Thanks for info Mando. I hope Parcells does the rigt thing and gets rid of Cam.
And with their 1st round pick in the 2007 NFL draft Cam Cameron, I mean the Miami Dolphins select Ted Ginn (I promise your gonna love Ted Ginn and the Ted Ginn family)yeagh in the late 2nd round and who cares about his family. With their 2nd pick the Cam Cameron, I mean Miami Dolphins select John Beck----- FIRED.
If Parcells doesn't pull the trigger on this buffoon, then we made a big mistake hiring him to run this organization. All he needs to do is review all the games this bozo coached to make his decision. Shame on Parcells if he let's anyone like Bobby Knight cloud his judgement. I along with thousands of fans are done with this team if Cameron remains. Believe that! We've had enough of this bible thumping, egomaniacal, incompetent twerp.
I dont know why but I really love reading this blog
Simone,
Milan, ITALY
the only thing saving Cam at this point is if Parcells is holding out for Cowher. it would stink to change coaches three years in a row. maybe give Cam one more year while building the roster, and go get Cowher for '09. what's the worst that can happen; we get another set of good draft picks.
You don't think the fact Cam still has 3yrs and $7.5 million left on his contract is a factor? They need him to resign, cause right now I don't think Cam gets a better deal than that anywhere else.
It is ALL about winning. Tuna must obtain winners, Cammy is not an option...you are only as sucessful as the people you surround yourself with!
I've been in Cam's corner all season long because I feel he's been dealt a seriously bad hand. However, with a bunch of rookies and a scrap heap of players on offense, the team wasn't all that bad. There was definite improvement on the offensive side of the ball.
The defense is where this team failed miserably. Every time something positive happened on offense, the defense failed to stop the other team from countering with points. It started with the Redskins game in OT, continued with the Texans, beating us with a last second FG, and it almost cost us a winless season against the Ravens if Stover doesn't miss that kick. Lastly, we couldn't stop the Bengals and Ocho Cinco at all.
I think it will be extremely difficult for Parcells to keep Cam as the head coach, but in an effort to not completely destroy whats been "built" on offense up to now, I strongly urge Parcells to keep CAM as the offensive coordinator. Hire a defensive minded coach, one who can manage games and start rebuilding the defense in the mold that we're accustomed to seeing.
Happy New Year everyone!
I want to know and I am keeping track...
If Tuna decides to keep Cam, do Tuna lovers out there accept it and trust in Tuna, or do you bash him?
H.C.D.,
How could anybody have run this defense with no secondary and only one excellent performer on the DL? And with our best LB out the whole year?
I think Fifita and Jason Allen will continue to grow, Crowder is on the upswing, and Porter has FINALLY begun to establish himself (even though he is overpaid, he is here so deal with it).
Cam may be odd and eccentric but if he has the juice todo it he can make the offense explode. You can't copy gates/Tomlinson, unlass you have Gates/Tomlinson talent.
Mando,
A new broom sweeps clean. The Big Tuna is throwing out the baby with the bath water. As should be done. Cam can't coach and Tuna is playing nice by having the meeting with him. The Dolphins are headed in a new direction, and I'm liking it already. Also, did Tuna and Mueller have a history together? Cut throat. The beatings will continue until results are achieved.
Ron in Charlotte,
You gotta have depth at every position.
The Patriots made the title game last year with a depleted defense, especially in the secondary.
You're right, our secondary was decimated, but our d-line was supposed to be one of the best and it was more like swiss cheese.
Bottom line is that there are going to be wholesale changes from top to bottom. The next few months are going to be VERY interesting.
HCD,
But Mueller and Cam aren't responsible for that. Depth is something that is built over time throught the draft.
I keep feeling in my gut that Tuna keeps Cam. Andf nobody will still answer my question: If Tunma keeps Cam what will the Tuna lovers say?
I am glad Bill is here, and Wayne didn't hire him just to fire everybody, Wayne hired him to make good decisions.
I think Cam is toast. Although we don't know what really went on "behind the scenes" in the locker room, etc. if it's true that he peppered the players and staff with religion/religious-based judgment (reportedly why he picked fellow Mormon John Beck and Jesus-loving Tedd Ginn in the draft); and monitored the team's web site for "appropriate" Q&A from the team reporters and players, he needs to be not only fired but should have his ass kicked out of town.
I say send over the same moving truck we saw at Nick's house last year.
P.S. - To Simone from Milan. Will you marry me? ;-D
Dolphin fans have gone for so many years without a good team that they don't even have a clue what it takes to build a winner.
Those fans who trust in Parcells are even dumber than the sportswiters who cover the team. Parcells is like the bully who comes to collect lunch money. When people stand up to him, he "retires" again. Dallas is a much better team without Parcells and there is no noise from T. O. this year without Drew Bledsoe.
Ron in Charlotte....
No argument there...
I don't know what Tuna lovers will say, I mean, I'm glad he's in Miami now too, but I wasn't calling for him and Cowher like everybody else was....
We'll just have to see what happens.
Cam is not focused on getting the job done. Why would you be reading what your players are saying in interviews. Focus on winning games. Another problem is his practice. The defensive backs are doing a drill were they are attached to this elastic stretch and they are reaching for a spot on the field with the resistance effect. This is not a drill that you do after the season starts. At least not during practice. It's a strenght and drive drill. During practice you should concentrate on skill drills, technique and situations. In every case of wins and losses it takes place on the practice field. To stay with the way you practice after loosing even three straight games is insane. Cam is stubborn and not open for improvement. He needs to go. See ya .
I was a supporter of keeping Mueller and Cameron. Since revelations have surfaced late in the year as to dissension between players and Cameron and lengthy media reports of his coaching errors, I no longer would be in favor of keeping him even if the Parcells era had not begun. I liked Mueller's philosophy of rebuilding and believe he did not receive enough time to accomplish his task.
Huizenga's decision to hire Parcells was a clever one. It takes the heat off of him and puts it on his hired expert. The minute Huizenga hired Parcells, Mueller and Cameron's fates were sealed. Even if the record were better they are not compatible with him and hence gone.
Changing management and philosophy usually costs time to implement. The question of whether sticking with Mueller would have accomplished a super bowl caliber team sooner can probably never be answered. As a passionate Dolphins fan I can only hope Parcell's is at least as committed to rebuilding as Mueller was. I also can only hope he will stick around long enough to see the task through.
Accepting that Parcell's is bringing in new G.M. and coach (Ireland? and Sparano?) what are the chances of keeping some of the better assistants from the current staff? If Sparano and Ireland are in place what is the likely fates of Hudson Houck and Dom Capers?
Mueller was obviously committed to a major youth movement. What do you think Parcell's likely opinion of the last 2-3 drafts will be and does he build on these players or clean house and start from scratch? Will Parcell's also endorse a youth movement or combination of youth and veterans that match his philosophy?
hire Bill Coher already...what are they waiting for?..lol
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