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Monday, April 21, 2008

Dolphins handle negotiations without gimmicks

The much anticipated multi-front negotiation with potential first overall picks the Dolphins were said to be preparing has not happened and, by the most rudimentary uses of logic, will not happen because it is simply too late in the draft game to make it work.

The Dolphins talked to Jake Long's agent for the first time about two weeks ago and haven't talked to anyone else. Now, only five days from selection day, it is clear there will be no talks with Chris Long or Vernon Gholston or Matt Ryan or Glenn Dorsey.

Jake Long is Miami's man. And Jake Long will probably be drafted and agree to a contract with Miami, although not necessarily in that order.

So wha happen?

Why didn't the Dolphins open negotiations with another first pick candidate, if for no other reason than to use it as leverage against Jake Long? Why didn't the team try to ensure a discount for signing that first pick while at the same time hedging its bet against a holdout?

Let's count the reasons.

First, the Dolphins clearly decided Jake Long is their man. This was apparently decided as early as March when I first told you they had set their draft board. After this decision, the team apparently made the next logical decision -- rightly, I think -- to open negotiations in GOOD FAITH.

Tom Condon, who represents Jake Long, is a veteran agent who doesn't intimidate easily. He knows the game and knows how to play. And it was wise on the Dolphins part not to mess too much with what could be a good thing by explicitly imposing negotiation deadlines and threatening to go elsewhere if they didn't get their way.

By keeping this negotiation free of gimmicks, the Dolphins hoped to get, and apparently got, a clean negotiation free of unnecessary drama. Of course, they still held the card of moving on if the talks didn't move forward -- and that was the implicit deadline I told you about last week. But there has not been a written or spoken deadline by which Condon was forced to work.

Another reason the Dolphins haven't talked to other players thus far -- and likely will not barring a total collapse of these talks -- is that they really want Jake Long. He fills a need. He is likely to be a good player. He is a safe pick in that he has no questionable background. And if he falters as a left tackle, he can always play right tackle.

There is also the agent factor that worked against Miami. Although Long has been their choice for a while, it's not a blowout decision. The team likes Matt Ryan. The team likes Vernon Gholston. The team likes Chris Long.

But to play hardball with Jake Long's agent didn't serve a purpose because the Dolphins couldn't really turn and say, "We're going to open talks with Gholston and get a better deal." The reason is Condon's agency also represents Gholston. And Condon's agency also represents Matt Ryan.

Miami really had nowhere to turn other than to Chris Long and his agent Marvin Demoff if the talks with Condon became ugly. Guess what? Marvin Demoff is not the type of agent that gives discounts either. When he caught wind of the bogus Internet talk about the Dolphins passing on their pick then selecting his client fourth or fifth in order to pay less for the pick, Demoff told reporters that if Miami picked his client after pulling that prank, he would demand to be paid like the first overall pick.

So forget using Demoff as a legitimate foil against Condon.

Finally, and perhaps most importantly, I believe Condon is aware enough of the financial environment he's operating in with the Dolphins that he isn't going to try and steal the silverware after being invited to dinner. There is prestige in representing the first overall pick. Condon didn't want to screw that up.

For those many reasons, the negotiation with Jake Long seems pointed toward a successful conclusion by 3 p.m. Saturday. It is doubtful the Dolphins will get the huge discount everyone, including myself, predicted they would get out of this negotiation. But neither will they get fried like a plump chicken leg as the Raiders did last year in the JaMarcus Russell negotiations.

At the end of the day, the Dolphins should get their man. And their man will get a contract representative of his status as the first overall pick.

69 Comments:

Blogger Terry said...

Armando,
I am amazed that you continue to be duped by the Dolphins front office. The Fins may indeed draft J. Long but it is by no means written in stone. I personally think the pick is still a total mystery and no one knows who they will pick. I can't remember this much uncertainty surrounding the first overall pick in a LONG time.

11:35 PM  
Anonymous SpecialNeedsCoach said...

There was just a report on Yahoo claiming the fins are finalizing a deal, so it looks legit.

11:44 PM  
Anonymous rich said...

Guess you are not listening to Ozzie Newsome..

11:51 PM  
Anonymous southflaboy said...

There is no report on Yahoo other than a rewrite of the NBCsports report. I think the cautious approach, which is what Armando is taking here, is wise.

12:21 AM  
Anonymous save_us.y2j said...

Jake Long to the Dolphins looks pretty legit, if you ask me. I don't know if you can say that there is "uncertainty" surrounding the first pick anymore.

12:22 AM  
Anonymous born today said...

Jake Long? The Dolphins have the bad season to end all bad seasons and they end up with Jake Long? No LBJ, no Sid the Kid, no Justin Upton, not even a Carson Palmer? This draft is our 16th loss of the season.

12:45 AM  
Anonymous Valandui said...

Gil Brandt, who is usually right on the money with this stuff, has said that if we don't trade the pick we WILL take Jake Long. Brandt is also very close with Parcells, so it is very likely that he will be the pick. Mayock also said that four different high-ranking scouts from NFL teams told him that it would be J. Long. I'm definitely a Jake Long fan, so I'm hoping it is true.

1:14 AM  
Anonymous VP said...

Armando,

I enjoy reading your insight in all the affairs concerning the Miami Dolphins, but why do you find it necessary to point out every mild prediction you've made that has come to fruition? I only wish you'd point out your short comings as well (e.g. the '07 Dolphins will go 10-6). Again, I am a fan of your work. However, all the Dolphin low-down, minus the narcissisms would be a bonus.

3:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I for one am not all that impressed with many of the top picks. I believe the best pick in this draft happens to be Jake Long and not simply because I am a Dolphins fan. He is really the only top end guy that fits the Parcells mold....Big, Strong, physical and Fast. The other guys are ok, just not that impressive physically. The only other guy I would have considered is Glenn Dorsey if it were not for some of the injury concerns. I once heard John Madden say, and I agree 100%, it is not defense that wins championships, it is the O'line. Anyone remember what unit set the pace for the Giants in the Super Bowl....? Hint, they possesed the ball a record 9+ mins on the openning drive. It is "LONG" over due for us to start building a strong solid wall on offense.

3:38 AM  
Anonymous Dolfan Ray said...

I've been on the Chris Long bandwagon since January. I have converted to the Jake Long theory about 3 weeks ago. Jake is not the sexy player that would make everyone yell, but he is a top talent and also a need. He should be great, even if he falls from LT to RT and eventually guard. But at least there is a fallback position for him. If Chris Long is a tweener and can't stop the run or get past an offensive tackle, then what? Move him to safety? As much as I would have liked Howie's kid chasing Tom Brady for the next few years, I think that Jake is the most logical and safe pick (Investment safe) for the Dolphins. We will only know for sure when the name is read. Miami is on the clock....still.
Go Dolphins!

6:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And when the pick is made, then all the bugs will come out of the woodwork saying they told you so. I for one will laugh my butt off if someone other than Jake is picked since his agent also represents 3 other of the so call 5 the Dolphins are interested in. Who's to say they are not talking about the others? Maybe they just want one publicly known. Playing the game to keep everyone guessing... just playing the game.

7:49 AM  
Anonymous Stephen Ross said...

I guess Jeff Ireland's "freudian" slip was not so sincere after all...

Poker at Armando's house tonight!

8:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Armando,

You bounce around more often than a basketball. First you say it's not going to be Jake, then you say it is. After the Jeff meeting you said this,
"I've decided it was not an intentional attempt to mislead. The guy simply misspoke. Don't know if that means he was saying something he shouldn't or simply let words fall out of his mouth without really measuring them first." From that statement you implied that it was going to be a defensive player being picked. Then you bring up a blog with Newsome to support your theory, and now you say is Jake again. Make up your mind Armando!

8:53 AM  
Anonymous B-Man said...

Yahoo sports? They have as much cred as a teenage girl telling you about football. What next - People magazine? They already blew their big Dolphins scoop this year and now your running back for more. Enjoy Entertainment Tonight... maybe you'll find a nugget of wisdom.

8:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Latest word on the street.....
Jason Taylor and Miami's 3rd round pick to Cleveland for Brady Quinn and Cleveland's 4th round pick. I don't like it. But it's what I am hearing!!!!!

8:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What inside scoop do you have? You're guessing just like the rest of us. Why don't you let a real reporter do your job?

9:06 AM  
Blogger Chris said...

Armando, you make a very good case here but I wouldn't bet my paycheck that Jake Long is the guy (given Parcells' history in such things).

We'll soon see what the real truth is.

9:25 AM  
Blogger Ron in Charlotte said...

Hey this is still better than Cote's crap writing. That guy shouldn't be allowed to be a volunteer reporter.

9:26 AM  
Anonymous Insider said...

Excellent analysis! I should know.

9:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

VP: Armando tells us when he's right and he tells us when he's wrong. He's made fun of his 10-6 prediction over and over and over again. Even in this post he tells you his prediction that the Dolphins would get a big discount then tells you he's probably wrong about that.

He flows both ways -- so to speak.

9:57 AM  
Anonymous SOB said...

Oh Ron I couldn't agree with you more.

After the last BS article I read from Cote, he's done with me. Ill never pick up another of his articles.... >:(

Great job Mando... already stuff I knew but good article none the less. I have no doubt our pick is going to be Jake Long. He's our guy and he's a great choice. I personally would be happy with either Chris or Jake but if you don't give Beck time to throw the ball he doesn't have a prayer. At least this way we will have a starting O-Line this year that actually resembled an NFL line. Those high school lines getting pounded is getting pretty old.

Anyone who watched games last year knows our line was terrible. Beck had .5 seconds to throw the ball before he got sacked. He was completely shell shocked back there. Now with Smiley and hopefully the addition of Long to go with Carey and Satele... we could be in a good place next year.

Gotta love what Parcells is doing and the path this team is on!!! Just a few more days!

10:00 AM  
Blogger Ron in Charlotte said...

I still think it is Chris Long, but I am barely holding on.

I wouldn't be upset with Jake though. I think having Jake Long shows Parcells really wants to see what Beck is made of.

I have to say that my biggest fear, the one that actually makes me stress out is that Beck doesn't get a real chance and winds up somewhere else and becomes a HOF, or at least a Pro-Bowl, QB.

I really like Beck, and I believe way down in my deepest gut of guts that Beck is Miami's future. I don't care what else we do, as long Beck gets the gig and solidifies his start. NExt year I want to ebegin the season knowing who the starter is and being able to rest easy knowing Mari- I mean Beck is at the helm. Those were peaceful years.

10:13 AM  
Anonymous Fernando said...

Hey Armando, how is JT doing on dancing with the stars, will his new sack celebration be a two step?

10:14 AM  
Anonymous FINSFAN said...

Ron in Charlotte,

You are a fraud dude!! You came on here the other day, after the GM for the fins spoke, and you claimed they were going to draft Chris Long or Gholston. And I have been telling you from day 1, it is going to be Jake Long. Now that the draft is nearing and you know, as well as the whole world that Jake is indeed going to be the first pick, now you want to act like you are ok with it.

You come on here claiming you know alot and in reality you know NOTHING. You are a fraud for coming on here today and claiming if the pick is Jake you would be OK with it.

For all the dolfans we have a fraud on this site, he talks and talks and talks and thinks he knows everything. But reality is he knows nothing and now that he knows nor Chris Long or Gholston are going to be picked, he is back tracking every word he says.

Mr. know it all, thought he was a mind reader when ireland came out and said " DEFENCE", he took it to heart and ran with it, now he's writing on this blog saying he's ok with Jake Long.

MANDO BAND THIS FRAUD FOR GOOD!!!

YOU HAVE BEEN CALLED OUT!!! NOW MAN UP AND ADMIT YOU A FRAUD WITH A TIE AND SUIT!!

10:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's a nice punter and his family you can use the first pick on. Let's turn those thumbs this way ^^^^^

Cam




Ramsterone

10:41 AM  
Blogger Ron in Charlotte said...

Fins Fan:

Me Yesterday:
" Ron in Charlotte said...
For the record, if Jake Long is drafted by us, I will be fine with it. He is as worthy as Chris, I just prefer Chris."

And I have said many other times before that I am ok with Jake. I never said he can't play LT, I never said outright he was overrated, but I have questioned the Big Ten (not that the ACC is much better). I even agree with the safeness of picking a guy who could at least play RT or guard if necessary. I have said repeatedly that I just don't want Gholston but I could live with it. McFadden or Ryan would infuriate me. If we pick Gholston, I will pray that he is what they think he is and I want him to succeed.

It is no secret I prefer Chris over Jake, but being the Beck fanboy that I am, I see the benefit of having Jake Long. I just believe the best person for the franchise in the long-term is Chris Long.

Not exactly a fraud, but I can see how you would misconstrue it. Just because I think Chris is the best guy, doesn't mean that all the other choices are worthless scrubs.

Jake should be a fine OT. I still think it is CHris, but the signs are pointing elsewhere, which makes believe more that it is Chris. It's hard to believe it's not Jake now.

10:52 AM  
Blogger Ron in Charlotte said...

Finsfan, you are an extremely bitter hostile person. You should seek out psychiatric help. You love going on rants about me. Maybe you need to call your mom and ask her for a hug. I'll tell her you are looking for her when I see her tonight.

10:56 AM  
Anonymous Eds said...

Here's why J.Long is the best pick. First, security to play multiple positions as duly noted in this foru. Second, he fills a need. Third, filling this need in general also helps to fully evaluate QB talent in '08. And finally, and most important, it provides flexibility in round 2. Meaning, since OT is such a need, if we went defense at #1, we would have to go OL in round 2. However, with OL at #1, we now in round 2, along with another big need position like DE, LB, or CB, we could afford to take a QB or WR that slips which would be a littel luxury. If C.Long or Gholston was picked, you'd have to forget about a QB or someone like Sweed falling to us.

11:09 AM  
Anonymous SOB said...

FINSFAN,

Wow your an idiot. Thanks for the morning laugh though, it was a nice treat away from work.

Seriously get over yourself. Look at ANY expert, ANY mock draft. Of course people's minds change between now and the draft. Besides, theres a lot of fans (myself included) who would love to see Chris's name called. It just doesn't APPEAR as if that's really going to happen.

Jake Long could be a stud LT for years but he comes with a big ? mark and a risk. Still, I want to see what Beck is made of and I think he can be a solid QB for us over the next decade! He threw 4000 balls for Lee our new QB coach and he apparently really likes what he saw. I bet everyone is getting to get a LT and finally fix our o-line. Hardly a stupid decision by parcells.

Face it! The more you know as you go, the more you can justify one pick or the other. Hell, they could still go out and still grab Chris Long and shock everyone. Would myself and Ron be "mind readers" then? No, maybe just well informed and knowledgeable about the subject.

Funny how those who know so little think they know so much.

P.S It may appear I'm sticking up for Ron but really, Im just sticking up for all fans who know what the hell they are talking about. I get far more annoyed by people who THINK they have a clue but probably don't even have a grade 7 education yet. Flame on!

11:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mando and all the other stupid writers for this doenfalling stupid paper need to get it together.
#1. Stop saying the fins like Ryan. Everyone else in the sports world knows that Beck is their guy and dont thing Ryan is a good enogh QB. Even if they trade down to number 31 and ryan is available, they still are not goig to draft him. Hes not good. He throws too many interceptions, has horrible desicion making and doesnt have a strong arm. I dont know how it can be said hes better than beck because hes never played n the nfl and hes never had to play in that QB deathtrap Miami put on the field for offense last year. SHUT UP ABOUT RYAN!!!
#2. None of you have any idea what is going on with the draft. You dont know Jake is the pick. Just like you didnt and dont know that cris is the pick. They have gholston higher than cris and everyone except this paper seems to know that. Cris is viewed more as a 4-3 end then a 3-4 rush linebacker. Good job on reporting that by the way.
#3. we all know by now that who ever the pick is, Mando will find some negativity in it because thats what he does. I think he hates the dolphins because he never writes anything positive about them. you critisised them all through free agency when on reality they made pretty good darn moves. If you cant stand this team, why write for them. every time I read your stuff I feel like im reading the stuff of a self pitying cubs fan or sox fan prior to 2004. its all negative. shut up aleady!!
#4. Im personally ok with Gholston or Jake long. I think either or would be a great fit in Miami. We will see Beck come around as we did at the end of last season. We will see Ginn continue to develop and we will see this team take a major step foward this season.
#5. I would like to use this to space to say I am fed up with these clueless, arrogant negative and horrible writers and will no longer read this downfalling paper. I will endorse Omar Kelly at the sentinel and find his stuff worth reading. I know that even if i dont agree with it, it at least makes sense and is knowledgeable. Mabey you can take classes from him or something, hearld writers.

PEACE!!

Brett from LI

11:24 AM  
Anonymous finheavenblows! said...

Yeah, Omar Kelley is the man. He's the only one who reported Gholston was negotiating with the Dolphins. Doesn't matter that it wasn't true.

11:31 AM  
Anonymous FINSFAN said...

SOB,

It seems like you and Ronny have some butt pirate in you guys. lolol. I just write what I see, look back to all of your butt pirate friend and his blogs and READ what he write's, and you will see where am coming from. But of coruse if you are taking it in the A-- then you wont see it.

It just gets to me, when people like Ron come on these blogs and THINK they have it all solved, and claim to know everything.

He ran to his computer right after Ireland spoke and was the FIRST person to white on Mondo's blog that day. And all of a sudden he became CLEO.

So a fews days have passed by since then, and now that he know for a FACT that the fins are picking JAKE LONG not CHRIS LONG NOR GHOLSTON. He writes this

Ron in Charlotte said...
For the record, if Jake Long is drafted by us, I will be fine with it. He is as worthy as Chris, I just prefer Chris."

He sure was not writing this after Jeff Ireland spoke the other day!! Thats why he wrote those first three words (FOR THE RECORD)

THATS A SIGN OF A FRAUD!!!

SO SOB IF YOU DONT SEE THAT, THEN KEEP TAKING IT IN THE A-- homie.

11:34 AM  
Anonymous ceed said...

What about the 32nd pick overall? Any news on who else we like besides for the 1st overall? If we go Jake Long 1st then we need to go corner or D end/OLB or perhaps even safety if Kenny Phillips is still there. I like Antoine Cason and Quentin Groves if either of them is there. Cason should be. Who does everybody else like?

11:37 AM  
Anonymous FINSFAN said...

Ron,

In that picture of your's you look like you in your mid 40's and you still have momma jokes, that shows that type of man you are.

Its amazing how someone can be sooo brave when they are typing.

Do what you do and Ill do what I do. The GREAT THING BOUT THESE BLOGS IS, IT SHOWS IF YOU GO BACK AND READ HOW MUCH OF A FRAUD A PERSON CAN BE.

11:41 AM  
Blogger Ron in Charlotte said...

finsfan (what a joke of a name),

I don't know for a fact that Jake is the pick. It sure seems like he is. I was being clear that I am ok with Jake. That doesn't mean I don't believe it is Chris.

Howe does anyone really know who is on the draft board. Tomorrow could come a report that the Fins are talking with Chris Long, Dorsey or my sister. It won't change my opinion of who it is or who I want it to be. OMar was all over the Chris Long thing over the weekend and Armando was yesterday. Today it seems like Long, but this time is always smokescreens. Do you really think that all of this information just freely flows from Parcells' and Ireland's office? I have a bunch of media types and Ireland's slip up. I am going with what I saw. I believe it. It is not a statement of fact, but a strong opinion. You are stating it as fact. It has not occured yet so it can't be fact. What if Jake long is hit by a truck. That would change it it was the planned choice. Therefore it isn't a fact, yet.

It is a fact when the contract is signed or the pick is made.

Get over yourself dude.

I ama FIns Fan for real so I will support our choice if it is Long Long or Gholston. If it is Ryan or McFadden, then I won't like it but my blood will still be aqua nd coral.

11:45 AM  
Anonymous Ron in Canada said...

To Ron in Charlotte:

You're still an idiot. In factm I think you're an even bigger idiot than I thought yesterday

11:50 AM  
Blogger Ron in Charlotte said...

FINSFAN, how old are you? Seriously what is your age?

11:51 AM  
Anonymous FINSFAN said...

Ron,

Am done with you homie!!

With the first pick of the draft the Miami Dolphins select JAKE LONG.

And Ron, if am worng Ill come on here and say am wrong. I would also use those 3 famous words (FOR THE RECORD) HAHAHAH. WHAT A DUCK

11:55 AM  
Blogger Ron in Charlotte said...

Is this the FINSFAN??

http://www.psoriasis.org/forum/search.php?searchid=1581867

http://www.gayweiner.com/blog/finsfan/

Kinda funny considering your remarks to sob

11:56 AM  
Anonymous FINSFAN said...

Ron,

Am 22 years old sir?

11:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We have no hand... at all.

Makes sense to negotiate with who we want and not play any games that we woudl lose. This draft has good talent at the top of the board, but no bonafide stud. If McFadden wasn't such a character issue, maybe... and I stress maybe we could of had something to bargain with. It is what it is.

Personally, I am very very happy that we are drafting Jake Long, I have wanted the "non-sexy" pick of a legit offensive lineman for YEARS.

Glad its finally going to happen.

12:07 PM  
Anonymous SOB said...

Heh... 22...

That explains all the talk and no action.

I wish I knew a quarter at 22 that I thought I knew back that. Talk to me when you grow up kid. You're probably still living with your parents. HOMIE

BTW, all your insults are nothing but water down my back... HOMIE.... so keep it up, and keep making yourself look like a bigger asshole than you already are.

PEACE!

12:09 PM  
Anonymous FINSFAN said...

Attention Blog members,

It makes me wonder, how Ron knows bout those (GAY) sites, I mean come on only fruity people know bout these sites. Ron what flavor are u?? Its seems like peach since you are a peachy ass person.

Now that I think bout it,I think he tried to give me a hint when he asked me my (AGE), thats a sign folks.

12:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just read the post and didn't want to go through all the comments, but to whomever feels Jake Long is more Robert Gallery than Joe Thomas, or whoever thinks that Jake Long might not be best-suited as a left tackle, consider two points:
1) Jake Long was named the Big Ten offensive lineman of the year two years in a row; that means he was voted over Joe Thomas last season.
2) If the Dolphins end up making a run at Chris Simms, which is not a guarantee, but appears VERY possible, Jake Long could be a right tackle and STILL protect the QB's blindside, making him just as valuable.

Peace,
Ben

12:14 PM  
Anonymous FINSFAN said...

SOB

HAHAHA This is laughable to me. Are you Ron's personal assistant or are you guys invloved in a love triangle, something is up. Let RON speak for himself, DAMM lol, I feel like I have thses oldies ganging up on me. I mean I see Ron knows all these GAY sites, and then you SOB, YOU WROTE A BLOG AT 11:13 am AND AT THE END YOU WROTE (FLAME ON) oooo boy. Which one of you two is the man???

12:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MATT RYAN SUCKS!!! I mean, he really, really, really SUCKS!!! I know that this blog has nothing to do with Matt Ryan, but I felt it needed to be said. Anyways, hopefully Jake Long is signed soon and the Dolphins can get back to winning football games again!

12:43 PM  
Anonymous FINSFAN said...

THE FINS HAVE SIGNED JAKE LONG PER ESPN'S CHRIS MORTENSON!!!!!! AT 1:30 THERE IS GOING TO BE A PRESS CONFERENCE!!!!!!!


YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!

1:04 PM  
Anonymous FINSFAN said...

I guess NOW we know for a FACT, thats its going to be Jake Long!!! He has been signed, sealed.

For all you Jake Long haters, you just dont know football, if you aint happy with this pick.

Ron,

You like Jon Beck and I totaly agree with you, WHEN IT COMES TO JOHN BECK, he is going to be a stud in the NFL (someday). But I wonder why you would want Chris or Gholston, before Jake Long. This pick is going to helppppp beck in the long run, stating this up and coming year!!

1:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is everyone except THE MIAMI HERALD reporting its a done deal.

C'mon fellas - tighten up!

1:12 PM  
Anonymous Ron in Canada said...

Ron in Charlotte:

You are a GAY idiot

1:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WE NEED A QB DESPERATELY, JOHN BECK STINKS!!!

1:19 PM  
Blogger Ron in Charlotte said...

Well I'll be damned.

Solid Choice and he has my full support as a fan.

I love this team and I hope Jake Long lives up to his draft spot.

I am truly surprised.

Maybe the threat of a smokescreen was the smokescreen.

Go PHINS...I guess the draft party will lose some luster, lol.

1:19 PM  
Anonymous FINSFAN said...

Well I'll be damned, HOMIE CAME AROUND!!!!

GO FINS!!!!!

NEXT PICK: QUENTIN GROVES DE/LB

1:27 PM  
Blogger Ron in Charlotte said...

Did a CANDIAN call me gay? Damn. Pot calling the kettle black.

Dude you live in CANADA. STFU. Loser...


What's the weather like today? Icey? Do you have a head like Ike? Eh?

1:41 PM  
Anonymous Ron in Canada said...

To Ron in Charlotte:

Yes a Canadian called you gay. You're the one posting links to gay websites.

Are u trying to tell me that the 30 million people in Canada are all gay? Soryy but I'm as homophobe as they come.

Weather is cold here. Snowed a couple inches last night.

By the way... You are still a GAY IDIOT.

1:57 PM  
Anonymous FINSFAN said...

Even tho I beleive in Jonh Beck and I think Beck will be a solid QB in the NFL. The fins are still going to draft a QB. They only have 2 players right now at that position. So with that said, I think now that the fins have Jake Long he will be reunited with Chad Henne.

I think Chad Henne will get picked by Miami with the second pick of the two 2nd rounders they have. Remember Ron Wolf is a believer that you draft a QB every year till you get it right, and bill and Ron are real close.

NEXT PICK: 2nd - QUENTIN GROVES DE/LB.
2nd (2) CHAD HENNE QB

2:01 PM  
Blogger Ron in Charlotte said...

Homophobes are genrally believed to be the most likely to be closet homosexuals. All studies show that. So there you go.

Canadians are also shown to be generally gay. Therefore, homophobic canadians are REALLY Gay, not there's anything wrong with that...

2:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ron in Charlotte is a homo.

2:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

cmon, Miami Herald, you guys are way behind on the Jake Long signing...get it together...

2:29 PM  
Anonymous FINSFAN said...

Well for those of you who ???, that Jake Long can't play left tackle, well I think sparano made it very clear. They drafted Jake Long for the simple purpose of him playing (LEFT TACKLE). So lets stop the rumors that he cant play left, or he is better at right. He is a left tackle and a leader for years to come!!

2:31 PM  
Anonymous Steve said...

As predicted, it is Jake Long who fills a need, makes the QB and running back positions better and was the the best and safest choice at #1.

I only hope they can find some real impact players at LB so they can get rid of the overpaid and overated Joey "Throw him out with the Trash" Porter!!!!

2:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jake Long? There are 10 quality offensive linemen in this years draft and we waste the overall #1 on an offense linemen? He must have a good family.......This is perfect. Now next year with the overall #1 we can take a right tackle to go with the left tackle we just got. Hell, in five years we will have one hell of an offensive line. No one to run, pass, or catch the ball but damnit we'll be able to block!!!!!

3:06 PM  
Anonymous MartinK said...

Hey Ron in Charlotte,
I like the South Park & Seinfeld references - very nice! I am thrilled that we picked J. Long because it gives us flexibility with the rest our picks. I will not be happy if we pick a QB in the 2nd round but I'm also not sold on Mr. Fumbles (Beck).

3:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some of you people are hysterical.

Jake Long is a terrible pick. Right?

Has given up 2 sacks, has had 2 penalties called against him in his career, murders people on the line and he is a terrible pick?

We desperately need line help which creates lanes for running backs, gives QB's time to throw, basically dictates the entire offense and sets the tone of the game amd you think picking this animal is a bad move?

Are you people really this stupid?

What should we of done?

Draft Gholston who nobody ever heard of until he ran a fast 40 at the combine?

Draft McFadden when we have a former #2 pick a good depth at RB? How many RB's with child support issues do we need?

Draft Dorsey with his busted up body that will last 4 years MAX?

Draft Chris Long who will be a good pro, but just another strong defensive end?

And please, do not waste my time talking about trading out of the pick.

Bill Parcells - 2 Superbowls won, 1Superbowl lost, 3 Winning Franchises built.

You - nothing but an arm chair QB who thinks you know anything.

Stop and think for a second.

-D

3:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2 super bowls won. You are talking about 17 and 21 years ago. Since then? Patroits nothing. Jets nothing. Dallas really nothing. The old man has lost it. Look for another "3 yards and a cloud of dust" offense for years to come. Boring and losing. Let's face it fins fans, we are going to be the New Orleans Saints of the 70's unless we get some up-to-date management and coaching. At this point I would rather watch the Patriots and I hate the Patriots, but at least they are innovative and fun to watch. Oh yeah, and they win a hell of a lot of games........

5:09 PM  
Anonymous Chase said...

RE: The post by ananymous right before me.
-----DALLAS NOTHING?!?!?!?
are you kidding me? the cowboys right now were put together and made by bill parcells. He found romo in late rounds, put together one of the best offensive lines in the NFL, drafted demarcus ware and marion barber who was also a later round pick... Dallas nothing,,,,, think before you spick

5:32 PM  
Anonymous Chase said...

speak***... Sorry typo fix from last post

5:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not to mention he built the Jets from years ago and took them to the AFC Championship and taught Belichek who seems to have put together a pretty ok team, you think?

Not to mention how did Belichek build his team? On the offensive and defensive lines. Seymour, Wilfork, Mankins, etc all 1st round picks and bonafide studs.

Where did he learn that?

Yeah, the Tuna is out of date, the game has really passed him buy.

Moron.


You still did not explain who you would of taken.

5:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

" Jake Long? There are 10 quality offensive linemen in this years draft and we waste the overall #1 on an offense linemen? He must have a good family.......This is perfect. Now next year with the overall #1 we can take a right tackle to go with the left tackle we just got. Hell, in five years we will have one hell of an offensive line. No one to run, pass, or catch the ball but damnit we'll be able to block!!!!!"

Well that was one profoundly ignorant statement. Carey's the RT, Brown, Williams, and Booker will run it, and John Beck will pass it to Ted Ginn, behind the future pro-bowl LT, Jake Long.

10:07 PM  

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