Dolphins apparently don't need the work
For the record, I stayed in England a few days after the game against the Giants because, what the heck, I was there and it was an opportunity to see some sites. So I didn't make it back until Thursday of the bye week.
The Dolphins were done with their work week by then. And that's the point.
On a week the team had a bye, had extra days to hone and prepare and work on the things that needs to be worked on, the Dolphins practiced one time. One time! On Wednesday.
Players were off Thursday. Players were off Friday. Players were off Saturday. Players were off Sunday.
I can appreciate the need for people to get away from the stress of an NFL season and decompress and rest and recover. But four days? So much for the bye week advantage in preparing a team.
Now, it should be said that coaches didn't get four days off. They had Friday, Saturday and Sunday off. But why would a young team in need of as much practice time as possible not take two or three days off instead of four?
I could even buy that veterans didn't need to work those days -- although they also aren't exactly lighting things up with their play this year. Why didn't the team have a rookies and young vets work day Thursday?
Didn't have to be anything physically punishing. But I think Ted Ginn Jr. could use an extra day of polishing his routes, which are still not great. I think Jason Allen could use an extra day of studying on his calls at his new (again) position of safety. I think Derek Hagan could work on holding onto the ball by catching a few more passes. I think Paul Soliai could use some more tutelage on his run-stopping technique.
I think John Beck could use an extra day of throwing to receivers he's probably going to be throwing to for the next two or three years, to get comfortable with them, to get some timing and chemistry down.
Point is if the schedule offers you an extra week to get better without having to go out on Sunday and get beat up, why would the Dolphins turn that into just one day of practice?
The Dolphins were done with their work week by then. And that's the point.
On a week the team had a bye, had extra days to hone and prepare and work on the things that needs to be worked on, the Dolphins practiced one time. One time! On Wednesday.
Players were off Thursday. Players were off Friday. Players were off Saturday. Players were off Sunday.
I can appreciate the need for people to get away from the stress of an NFL season and decompress and rest and recover. But four days? So much for the bye week advantage in preparing a team.
Now, it should be said that coaches didn't get four days off. They had Friday, Saturday and Sunday off. But why would a young team in need of as much practice time as possible not take two or three days off instead of four?
I could even buy that veterans didn't need to work those days -- although they also aren't exactly lighting things up with their play this year. Why didn't the team have a rookies and young vets work day Thursday?
Didn't have to be anything physically punishing. But I think Ted Ginn Jr. could use an extra day of polishing his routes, which are still not great. I think Jason Allen could use an extra day of studying on his calls at his new (again) position of safety. I think Derek Hagan could work on holding onto the ball by catching a few more passes. I think Paul Soliai could use some more tutelage on his run-stopping technique.
I think John Beck could use an extra day of throwing to receivers he's probably going to be throwing to for the next two or three years, to get comfortable with them, to get some timing and chemistry down.
Point is if the schedule offers you an extra week to get better without having to go out on Sunday and get beat up, why would the Dolphins turn that into just one day of practice?
posted by Armando Salguero at 10:24 AM
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Mando,
I haven't seen such ineptitude in a team since Rich Kotite was coach of the New York Jets. Cam is a born loser and losers know how to lose. Does anyone want this 2 headed monster drafting in 2008 where we are going to have VERY IMPORTANT picks that will impact this team for the next 5 years? Please admit the mistake and fire Beavis and Butthead.
Fondly remembering Don Shula's four a days....
if i were a lazy player i'd love to play for Cam. you get a lot of vacation time mid-season.
Freaking armchair coaches kill me. Have any of you guys ever even strapped on the pads and played football? You think these guys are gonna pick something up over these 4 days they haven't had a chance to pick up yet. Were 0-8 and maybe they need to get away from football all together to reflect...to miss it...to think about how much it means to them. People were bitching about Saban doing the same thing last year during the bye...and we came out after the bye kicking ass ...so shut yer mouths.
In Fact, heres Mandos post about it last year:
"Have they earned the time off?
It is Friday and Dolphins players are off today.
They are also off Saturday.
They are also off Sunday.
My question is why? This team is 1-6 and on the bye week the players have gotten four days off, considering they were off last Tuesday as well.
I'm not a hater here. I think it's great the players are getting time with their families or a chance to fly back to their alma maters and have some fun. But I think they would be just as well served working Friday and having the weekend off.
Players like Jason Allen would benefit from one extra day of practice at the free safety position he's desperately needs to learn. The receivers that have proven they are quite inconsistent at catching the football could certainly use some extra work. And who is to argue the offensive line wouldn't benefit from a few more reps?
Maybe it's just my blue-collar work ethic, but I don't get it.
Instead of balancing bye week with four days of football and three days off, the Dolphins are breaking it down with three days of football and four days off.
So the team won't be back together until Monday. And then they get next Tuesday off as well.
"
Don't you freaking learn?
the armchair coaches have a better record than Miami's real coaches.
so yeah, let's get away from the game so we can get better. Let's forget hard work. Let's blow the week off and improve by doing that. And let's, by all means, go undefeated the rest of the way because Mike is recalling that it happened last year. That's a brilliant plan for success, for sure.
Ya, and we kicked the shit out of the Bears (who were undefeated) after those 4 days off. Morons you people. Absolute morons.
Thanks mike for proving Mando's point. The Dolphins were 1-6 last year and took three days off then lost their final three games.
This year they are WINLESS and they're taking four days off. Yup, recipe for success.
Your are a tool. Or maybe you are Cam Cameron.
Anonymous, Im not saying we will be great after it, but its no big deal. Tard.
Mike, how many games have you won in the NFL? You don't know anything you big loser.
Shut up Finhavenblows...we won 6 in a row before we lost those last 3...whats your point? TARD
Maybe Mike thinks he should be coaching the team.
ya dude maybe thats what mike thinks..awesome comment man...
Im not the one telling them when they should practice and when they shouldnt. I simply have no opinion on it. If they feel they need 4 days off, then go for it. It simply isn't a big deal.
Mike, you are funny. You are defending a winless team, a team that hasn't won in a year. EVERYTHING they are doing needs to be scrutinized because they suck.
You're like the traffic cop at the scene of a horrible accident where five bodies are covered by blankets. You are the cop saying, 'nothing to see here, move along, everything is great. nothing is happening here.'
Hey Mike, blow it out your piehole. You don't know anything. You are typical democrat crybaby. You think you have the right to talk but you want to shut up everybody else that doesn't agree. Retardo.
I am in no denial the phins suck right now...but I am not stupid enough to think I have a better understanding of when they need to practice and when they need time off.
And It just is freaking hilarious to me that Mando pretty much made the exact same post he made last year at this time. And then we won 6 games in a row. You would think he would be more cautious this time. Again, Im not saying we will repeat that...but why question something that appeared to have a positive effect last time we tried it?
If you got no opinion, get off the blog. Blogs are about opinions.
Ok then, my opinion is to stop bitching about when the practice and when they don't especially when the same formula worked well last year.
Uhhhh...wasn't there an internal audit going on as well? Call me when the coaches learn to defy Physics.
Armando, why is it that you continuously poke and prod at the Dolphins for EVERY move they make? I think you should have stayed in England a few more days...or years.
I'm curious, which NY rag is it that pays you on the side--the NY Post or NY Times?
Mike, it's Mando's blog and he obviously has an idea of how it should be done. If you are holding up last year as the example for how to run a team, you don't know excellence.
And get your facts right: The Dolphins won four games in a row after they bye, not six. then they lost four of the final five.
Nice debate kids, but no cursing please.
yes 4, my apologies...It still does not matter. Those 4 in a row was the only good stretch we have had in a looong time and it came after 4 days off.
Again you are wrong, Mike. It came after THREE days off. They took four this year.
You posted Armando's post yourself. Are you allergic to facts?
Moron read it again:
"Instead of balancing bye week with four days of football and three days off, the Dolphins are breaking it down with three days of football and four days off.
"
freaking dalt.
Hey Paul, exactly what have the Fins done so great that they shouldn't be questioned at every turn?
Isn't that what reporters are paid to do, ask questions about what's happening?
If you want the happy face on a horrible season, go to the team website and read about the cheerleaders.
Hey driveling snot, they had THREE DAYS OFF to end the week last year. They all get Tuesday off. The point is they practiced wed and thurs.
This year they had tues off and thurs, frid, sat, sun. They practiced only one day.
Turd brain!
Trenton you are wrong. The had four days off and that is waht Mando was bitching about in his post last year....can you FREAKING READ?
Sure they practiced 2 more times before they took those 4 days off, are you telling me those 2 practices were the big difference makers and not the 4 days off?
Finheavenblow, why do you have to bring politics in this? Is that how much you hate Democrats. Get a life guy!
he had nothing else to say. Its what stupid people do when they are backed in a corner.
Mike, I think you know exactly what stupid people say because you are the king of stupid people.
Your exchange with Trenton shows your inability to make a cogent point or understand one. I think everyone understood him except you.
And anonymous, get back to work before the boss catches you on the internet during company time.
Actually I can admit that, I do understand that Trenton means the 4 days were not all in a row...but honestly..Do you really think that makes a difference. And while that may have been an oversight (mostly due to typing all fired up) I still haven't resorted to political party's to prove my point about football. So you can have your crown back.
I bet Armando is laughing his ass off watching this exchange and knowing it is only driving up traffic to his blog.
This blog is addictive. Good stuff, Mando!
FLPD,
They have played 8 NFL games and have suffered quite a few injuries. I have never played an NFL game, but I can see that it is a BRUTAL sport that requires some time off to heal. Have you seen the injuries that have piled up?
Improvement does not always show in the win/loss column as too many armchair coaches who—the most physical thing they’ve done is sharpen a pencil with a manual sharpener—will point out.
The Fins are CLEARLY in a rebuilding mode, they have more rookies on this team than most NFL teams as well as some aging veterans that I’m sure not only need some additional time off, but appreciate it as well.
Would you agree that the offensive line has improved tremendously? How about the offense’s improvements in general? A lazy journalist certainly finds it easier to point out their opinions rather than do a little leg work on the why’s and how’s.
Mike, I think you just admitted that your facts were wrong, not once but twice. That's the only point I was making.
Go in peace big boy.
Trenton, I will have to disagree. My main point was that we had 4 days off...and we did. I wasn't wrong except for that they were not in a row. And I think that has little bearing on my point that days off aren't always a bad thing.
Paul, if you think Armando is lazy, as you imply, why are you on his blog. And you are a chronic on here so something obviously brings you back time and again and again and again.
Armando, where was this blog DURING the bye week? Or did you take the week off as well. An interesting topic of discussion, but a tad late.
WOW! Ignorance is bliss.
FLPD,
I think you should re-read my initial post…
I responded to Armando’s question as to why so many days off vs the bye advantage of preparation. I thought there was an internal audit going on after a trip to England, thus my defying Physics comment…
The problem with these blogs is that too many people want to come here and attack the person vs their opinion---yes you are one of them. I simply try to discuss the article and the Dolphins, not get into childish bantering.
I laid out some of my opinions on the Fins, if you would like to discuss or debate those things, I’d be happy to otherwise; you are wasting your time.
this is why cameron and mueller should both be fired asap!
I felt downright sick for few days after the draft and my heart immediately dropped to the floor with the Ginn Jr pick... but I picked myself back up and hoped for the best... saw a little bit of light with SOME of the things Cam did... but was mostly disappointed... I try to stay true to the team... with that in mind I fear that Cam is not the guy... way too many blunders... and at such a crucial time in the organizations history there is NO WAY that the Dolphins can afford another draft blunder... if Cam does not play Beck enough to decide on the QB decision then he absolutely MUST be removed from decision making in the draft... the QB position absolutely MUST be upgraded for the organization to get things turned around...
Anonymous, I think it was pretty clear that Armando wrote in the first line of this blog he stayed in England. But I also know he wrote from England because he did the team's midseason report card. So he was at least working.
I would have no problem with the dolphins staying in England either. At least until they're ready to finally win a game.
Mike, you are absolutely right. Wow, Armando... You are using the same material and almost the same post two years in a row! That's kind of strange... Mike, you are right. An extra day isnt going to help these guys develop any faster than they are all ready. Cam Cameron is managing this team. You can look around the league and see players backlashing at the coaches and they have better records than we do! The Ravens and Falcons are two examples. Armando, you said that Cam doesn't know how to talk to the media... Well, he obviously knows how to treat his team because even though the team doesn't have the winning atmosphere, the team is close knit. They are building the family atmosphere. They are rebuilding the culture of the team. The Winning will come because it has to. Once you build the culture, you can interchange players and talent because the foundation is built. You can't build this foundation with guys that have bad attitudes and off the field issues. Armando, you second guess everything... And because the Dolphins are losing, they are sooooo bad. This isn't the worst team in NFL history. It ain't even the worst team in Dolphin history. The 4-12 dolphins from a few years ago was unbearable to watch. They were worse. Pick six's every game, AJ Feeley and Jay Fiedler handing the ball to Lamar Gordon. Ugh!! I shutter even thinking about it. The front office targeted the offense last offseason, they fixed the running game and o-line, and have 8 games to get the passing game operating effectively. What makes you think that an offseason focused on fixing the defense can't happen this offseason and the team will be young, fast and competitive? Stop looking at everything people say so literal. Cam is not going to come and tell you guys everything he is thinking. He'll let you speculate and until he comes to his team with something, he's not going to tell the media. So if he is thinking about giving John some drives this game and hasn't told him that yet, he isn't going to confess it to you so that John wakes up in the morning and reads it on the front page before the coach tells him. The coach doesn't want to contradict himself either. Say he says this to you guys today. Then Cleo plays awesome on Sunday throwing three touchdowns and the Dolphins are winning 28 - 24 in the 4th quarter. Will Cam keep his word to the media by putting John in? Or does he keep his word to the team by trying to win? He doesn't want to be in that predicament so he leaves lee-way for himself to make changes if he wants to. You don't want always have to back track on what you say... Give as little as possible and you want have to worry about that.
Here's the thing...instead of admitting that you have a good point about last year and this year's simularities regarding taking time off, Miami fans are just doing what they do best:
HATING
Hating on Mike for bringing up an actual positive point, hating on Cameron (well, because we're 0-8), and hating now their fans political choices...?
So you can't really be all that upset, Mike. You are debating with Dolphin fans...need I say more?
GO FINS!
even though they havent won a game i see them as getting better. its not like we won ten games last year and only one up to this point. it cant get any worse and the o-line is finally coming around and mikes right why dont we try giving a coach atleast the benifit of the doubt for four years then fire him or whatever. i dont see the phins being near the pats until either brady or bellicheck moves on and i dont see that happining. GO FINS IN THE YEAR 2010
How much coaching experience do you have, Armando?
I believe wholeheartedly that if Armando was coaching the Miami Dolphins today.....and I'm serious here people...they'd have at least as many wins as they do now.
When will we be approaching the longest losing streak in NFL history? Cam, any thoughts?
Actually, I think the Dolphins would be better off with Cameron as the offensive coordinator and Armando as the head coach.
So Armando hates that two really bad teams -- last year's and this year's -- went on vacation instead of using their time to get better.
He said it last year and he said it this year. Sounds to me like he has a conviction about it. I'd question it if he was inconsistent -- something our team is every week.
But last year he was wrong because the team went on a 6 game winning streak. So why would he propose it again?
Marcus please shut up. They did not go on a six-game winning streak. You are WRONG. And who can say that if they had worked harder they wouldn't have REALLY gone on that win streak you say happened, but really didn't.
I feel your pain Mike...You deliver evidence that Mando is generating hype/talking out the side of his neck and people miss the point and attack you and the team...Excellent points Marcus. Seriously, people, look at the 2 articles its pretty pathetic that he is saying the same thing and speculating something fierce. But then again I guess he accomplished what he wanted.
drsamii
Are you really both the Editor and the Chief... or did you mean Editor-in-Chief. just curious???
I am the editor of my post and chief of my thoughts. Are you really the An and the tonio? Or just the antonio?
both of you are the mo and the rons. Think about it, you'll eventually figure it out.
Dear drsamii, go back to iran and hump a camel.
And by the way, for you new guys to this country and its vernacular, the phrase is "speaks out of the side of his mouth," not the side of his neck.
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Marcus, it was a four-game win streak. They won FOUR, 4, quatro in a row.
Please get your facts right. And for the record, after they won four in a row, they lost four of their next five. Yup, that time off really helped.
A winning streak none the less. That old team needed the time off.
Marcus, faced with the facts, most men would simply admit to being wrong. Why don't you?
Yall would die for a 4 game winning streak right now. Does it really matter how long the streak was? 4, 5, 6? The coach looked at the team and decided what was best for the team at that time. And he was right. Armando was wrong. Now, Armando goes back and again questions a coach again who makes a choice based on the state of his team. If a team is already losing, why would you be this big time task manager sucking even the little enjoyment out of what the team has. I bet you that you will see no players saying that they won't or can't play for Cam. He's a guy you root for. He takes care of his guys. Not only worried about winning games but developing people.
I was wrong it was 4 not 6. Whoa!!! It still doesn't change my stance. Get on my level.
Funny how Marcus can say Armando is wrong, when that is not a fact. But he can't say "I am wrong," when the fact is the Dolphins did not win six games in row last season.
Repeat after me, Marcus, "I am wrong. I am sorry." Try it. It's liberating.
Has it come to the point where fans are now fighting each other and hurling insults all over the place?! People are arguing over how many days should be taken off in the bye week, are you freakin' kidding me?! I'd hate to be in a foxhole with alot of you people, because when the going gets tough, you guys bitch and moan with such a defeatist attitude it's pathetic. There are two ways you can deal with the Miami Dolphins at 0-8, with 8 games to play...1) Say "whoa is me, I hate this, fire the coach, gm, owner, waterboy, whoever, everything sucks, I quit.
2) Never say die, patience, tough times don't last, tough people do, keep trying to get better every day, week, month, offseason, no matter what I'm not quitting.
I wish I could be at Dolphin Stadium this sunday and I hope that it's filled to the rims with loud, cheering fans. It should be DEAFENING when the Buffalo offense is on the field. It's been two weeks and I think it was good for the team AND the fans to have a little break. We all want the Dolphins to come back from the break strong and rejuvinated and I think it's important that the fans, especially at the stadium, come back strong and rejuvinated too.
We all want the same thing, let's stick together.
Thank you Marcus. Good man. You may go now.
Armando was wrong. And I said I was wrong. He said they should practice extra and undermined the coach when they didn't need to. I said 6 instead of 4 and you want to crucify me. That's ok. It's the principle of the argument. Like I said to Armando, everything is not literal.
HAVE THE FAITH DOLFANS!!! CAM AND RANDY WILL GET THIS PROGRAM ON THE RIGHT TRACK!!! I LIKE PIES. BRYAN IN OHIO.
This is my blog. I'll go where I please. You may go.
It was a FOUR game streak! FOUR, not 6!
Week 8 Bye Week
Week 9 Nov 5 W 31-13 at CHI
Week 10 Nov 12 W 13-10 vs KC
Week 11 Nov 19 W 24-20 vs MN
Week 12 Nov 23 W 27-10 at DET
Week 13 Dec 3 L 24-10 vs JAX
Week 14 Dec 10 W 21-0 vs NE
Week 15 Dec 17 L 21-0 at BUF
Week 16 Dec 25 L 13-10 vs NYJ
Week 17 Dec 31 L 27-22 at IND
NOW, with that being said, and as HORRIBLE as we were LAST year, we're TWICE as terrible NOW, except we lost our #1 reciever, our TE, DT's, SS, MLB
We have a 2nd year WR and a rookie
We have a rookie C
We have a rookie FB
We have NEW starting safties
We have NEW starting MLB
We have NEW starting QB
If ANY team needs the practice, whether it be pysical, or strictly non contact, it's THIS TEAM.
Sure, it would be NICE to get away from all the losing and such, but honestly, they haven't EARNED that priveledge!
I HAVE played football, and I can tell you if this was my team, after 0-4, we would have went back to Training Camp! It's inexcusable
Even though its OBVIOUS that 85% of Miami "fans" are of the Video game and Fantasy Football era,its STILL quite amusing EVERYTIME I go to the Herald or Yahoo Message boards.
I NEVER see ANY ACTUAL Football knowledge coming from this group as they are accustomed to trading players on a daily bases according to last weeks performance w/o even taking into account that their "star" QB was playing against either a very good or very bad pass defense team and simply make knee-jerk reactions because of sheer numbers.
They are also button pushing Madden All-Stars where when they need a quick burst of speed..all they need do is simply mash yet another FKNG button a viola,SUPERMANNNNNNNNN!!!!!!
ALL one can do IN THE REAL WORLD is make educated guesses according to OVERALL past performances in multiple situations because you cant change players from day to day or mash a button or highlight a different player and make a play!
Seeing that our D was Top 10 for the last what...CENTURY and our Offense has SUCKED for the last what...CENTURY,COMMON SENSE dictated that Miami DESPERATELY needed Offensive help at OL,QB,WR,FB,KR and Kicking Game and given past FACTS(decent to good defense),Defense could be addressed in later draft rounds and maybe 1 or 2 compliments for the D through FA.
ALL of these needs were addressed in the Draft and FA...some were genius as some of the rookies are playing and playing well...some are yet to be seen...and some are questionable but STILL remain to be seen and ALL this after 1 Draft and Off-Season and half of a regular Season.
Feeley has missed 1 field goal,Satele doesnt even resemble a rookie,Mauia is knocking ppl on their a$$,Fields is punting well,Porter is FINALLY starting to get it and Ginn?...Have you ACTUALLY seen HOW FAR he gets BEHIND those POOR DB's when he run's post patterns?
Hes SO damn fast that Lemon cant even judge how far he can lead him and the ONLY passes he hasnt caught that were thrown to him were UNCATCHABLE..PERIOD!
The other rookies that arent playing are yet to be seen but it sometimes takes 3-4 years for players to even play.
In Fantasy land you dont need chemistry or playing time or ANY REAL WORLD reality checks,and there are many,therefore mashing buttons is irrelevant so you Madden AllStars stick to mashing buttons and let Cam and Randy build this Team the PROPER way and then you can go back to talking smack to your fellow 8th Graders like you do your TV sets!!!!!
Good for you Mike! Stand your ground to these HATERS. Isn't it interesting that so many of the negative posts and slams of your comments come from people who hide behind anonymity? Guess why that is? Because when the Dolphins turn things around, they want to be able to jump right on the bandwagon and pretend they were supporting the team all along.
I agree with you Mike. Not only is the time off a good time to allow the injured players to heal physically, it also gives all of them a few days away from all the negativity about being winless, and from being told how bad they are from people like Armando, even though they have competed in most games, and suffered a rash of injuries and bad breaks.
It's a smart move that will reap benefits. Wait and see. I can't wait for Sunday, and if the Dolphins do find a way to win, Mike should reserve the right to shout out the nastiest, meanest I TOLD YOU SO ever.
Why don't you HATERS go away and find another team to trash?
flpd, to answer your question, reporters are paid to write facts, and the only out that Armando has in this is that he is also actually paid for his opinion (why?), negative though it is, and people like Ken eat it up.
Reporting is about facts. Not speculation.
Fact - Dolphins are 0-8
Fact - The Dolphins were given 4 days off during a two week stretch between games
Everything else you read was straight up Armando. Hey, doesn't the Boston Globe need a beat reporter?
Go Dolphins!!!
DrumFinFan
Excellent post Brian. You may stay. Excellent!! I couldn't have said it better.
Great post Brian! Keep layin' it out there. I agree with you 100%.
Go Dolphins!!!
DrumFinFan
Alright Marcus! Woo-hoo... Let the real Dolphins fans be heard.
Go 'Fins!
DrumFinFan
Hey Drumfinfan, this place where you visit a lot, like every 20 minutes, is called a blog. On this blog the reporter is ordered to give his opinion. Do you understand that? He must give his opinion. That is why it is a blog. it is not in the newspaper under the heading, fair and balanced, it is an opinion.
Have I spelled it out for you?
Anyway, got to go to work now and try not to get shot. How's that for a dose of reality.
A reality you choose. Be safe.
flpd,
Hey thanks. That explains the blog here, but what about all of the negative articles that he also writes?
Trust me, I do not need you to explain anything to me. I post on these blogs because you guys need some sanity to go along with the clickety-click-click PS coaches and GM's like you. And unless Armando deletes my posts, I'll write as often as I feel is necessary. So blow.
Beat the Bills!!!
DrumFinFan
HAVE FAITH DOLFANS!!! CAM AND RANDY CAN GET THE JOB DONE!!! I LIKE MUFFINS. BRYAN IN OHIO.
Why is it that all of you blind loyalist call "REALISTIC" reporting "NEGATIVE"?
FACT: The Dolphins are 0-8
FACT: The coach has made mistakes
FACT: The GM has made mistakes
FACT: We're the 7th most penalized team in the league!
In the grand scheme of things do any of you think it realy matters how many days they took off? THEY SUCK. It is very hard for me to say that I am a 30 year Dolphan and I live 2 hours from Buffalo. I just hope and pray that those days off work like last year (and we all know thats just a hope and prayer) The entire Dolphins organization needs a rehauling. I dont have the answers and niether do you. Hopefully someone with the team comes up with something, anything to atleast get on the right track for future years and maybe can restore the dignity this team once had.
LOL this is great you guys keep it up. I thought I'd put in my two cents for who ever would like to hear.
First we all have to agree to disagree at some point. Anyway the topic for today can be viewed many different ways. I'm on the fence on this one.......on one hand everybody needs a break from a ruff day at the office! And with our record being 0-8 you can say these guy need a good break.
Then on the other hand, we look sooooooo bad we need to be getting as many reps in as possible. This also reflects Cam's work ethic somewhat. If he wants Beck to start, then he and the 1st team offense should have been practicing all week!! And just because there off doesn't mean they can't use the training facility so the guys who are really trying to make a change on this team where there watching film and working out if nothing else!!! Thats my view and thats just the way I see it.
Everybody makes mistakes. Scott Pioli made mistakes and Bill Belicheck made mistakes. Bill Walsh made mistakes. These successful people were given a chance to do there job. They were right when they needed to be and success has followed. You have to give Cam and Randy a chance. Just because you disagree, doesn't make them wrong. It takes times to build a team. When you look at a situation and point at everything that is wrong, that is negative. If you see everything as hopeless, that is negative. This team is not hopeless. They really are not that bad. They don't get blown out. The best teams beat them good and everybody else don't win by much. The Giants, Redskins,Texans, Jets all beat them by 3 or less. The rest of the games they lost by an average of 13 or 14. They are not historically bad. They are close to being just 4-4. Next year, some of those games will be theres to win. Then two years from now, they will be dominating teams. 3 Years from now, they will be a contender. Look at some of the teams that built dynasties recently, the Rams, Colts, Patriots, Chargers, they were really bad. The Rams were bad until the Greatest show on Turf. There 0-8 but they are not that bad either. They will be back next year. The Colts got good after Peyton and Edgerin, the Pats got good after Belicheck and Brady and the Chargers got good after Ladainian, Brees came around and Cameron came to town. So this league just works in phases. Miami has been good to mediocre for so long, they never had a time to focus on the future. It was always about winning this season. Now is the time. Now is the time to build the team right. If you look at some teams around the league you can see the same thing happening to them. The Broncos, Falcons, Jets... These teams are usually good to mediocre and have been for a good while. Broncos really need to dismantle some parts, the Falcons have been getting by with Michael Vick so long that he spoiled them and the Jets have been winning when they really weren't talented enough. I don't know how the Jets win. Every year I swear they are not better than us but they win anyway. It's starting to show this year. Last year was a mirage.
Has anyone taken into account there was an internal evaluation being done and maybe, just maybe the coaching staff and management were being heavily (and deservedly) scrutinized?
Armando is criticizing the team for doing the same thing he did - take a much needed break. Remember defensively this is an old team. They need to take advantage of the rest the bye week gives. Hopefully can heal physically and mentally from the beat downs they've been gettin. Will they do better in the 2nd half of the season because they got 4 days rest? I don't know, but they can't do any worse.
That's the spirit. They can't do any worse! I guess they should just stop going to practice all together, not game plan, and just rest all week until Sunday....Good idea
Marc, talk about a retarded way of taking the post. How old is the defense? How hurt is Zach Thomas? They aren't playing good this year but its not because they haven't practiced enough. The team just doesn't have that much talent and a lot of the ones that had talent are over the hill (Joey Porter, Keith Traylor, etc).
the fact that a quite possibly 0-16 team even take ONE day off is perplexing to say the least!this sack of turd team is so hopelessly mis-managed that it must totally burn the hearts of the proud vets and long time fans of this once-proud squad! to say anything positive about this bible-thumping sack of sh%t coach and his actions so far,borders in complete idiocy or criminal negligence!
I didn't need this article to "take it" any way. I said the same thing to my boss YESTERDAY. If you read my OTHER posts, it didn't mention the D's AGE, but did mention OTHER, relevant things that the team should work on! I promise you that Joey Porter is NOT over-the-hill. He hasn't done much, well, neither has last year's defensive MVP. I can't blame their production, or lack therof on them. You don't get old overnight, well, unless, of course, you don't play in the preseason, you didn't practice much in training-camp, and you only practice 1 day your bye-week. Thank you for proving my point that the coaching staff has taken one of the greatest Defensive units from last year and by either not utilizing them properly, or not conditioning them properly made them the sorriest bunch around.
Anyway, got to go to work now and try not to get shot. How's that for a dose of reality. - flpd
If you're like most of your peers, that should be pretty easy. Hassle drivers who are driving 2 mph over the limit while the crack house around the block goes unmolested. No money to be made by busting crackheads, huh? Have another jelly doughnut and and think about the people who really put it all on the line everyday. Yet, most servicemen and women who are laid up in Walter Reed, missing limbs and scarred for life, never want the praise put on them for what they've sacrificed as you apparently do for the little to nothing you do. So don't lay that "try not to get shot" BS on us. Shining a car seat with your ass doesn't come close to what soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen do. Now that's putting your life on the line. How's that for a dose of reality. Now go find a jay-walker to fine.
Armando can take all the time off he wants. I don't pay $70 for a ticket and $30 to park and $10 to drink a beer to watch him write.
Hey exmarinecopidiotforlife, you are turd to rip a cop for putting his butt on the line every day to keep someone from coming in your house and raping you.
You are a sack of semen that can't find a hole to plug. I'm sure you wouldn't talk that way to flpd if you were face to face with the man.
loser.
Why can't we all just get along???
Why can't we all just get along???
You are a sack of semen that can't find a hole to plug. - Anonymous
I've seen a lot of holes that need plugging. Just not the kind that you are referring to and seem so familiar with.
ONLY a fool wouldnt evaluate the current status of ANYTHING they care about.
You think we're tired of sad to mediocre..how about Wayne?
Some seem satisfied with 7-9,8-8,6-10,9-7 etc.etc.etc but Im NOT..never have been and never will be!
At every turn Wayne has did what others said we needed..JJ then he said Dave then EVERYONE was foaming at the mouth over Saban.
The only way this Franchise was going to get to where we want and need to it be is to do what Wayne did THIS TIME and that is to bring in people who 1)Actually know what talent is whether its Coaches or players 2)Have the guts to trade or cut players who dont fit into a PROVEN winning system or who play BELOW the level needed to contribute to building a powerhouse AND gather picks 3)Have enough confidence in your evaluations to groom and prepare future players with PATIENCE until they are ready to make a significant contribution.
I went back and pulled up EVERY move whether it be Draft or FA that Mueller himself has made or played a part in as soon as Wayne hired him and was pleasantly surprised and knew that the Spielman days were OVER!!!!!!!!!
Drafting is simple...some players who are "locks" turn out to be busts and some achieve...some late rounders turn out to be HOFr's and some were late rounders for a reason but the trick is that you have to have MANY picks so that you can get a few gems.
JJ had what 10 picks in Dallas..so the likelyhood of getting 3-6 good players was greatly increased vs. having 3 picks and getting the same results...you can get lucky some times but the more picks you have the less "luck" has to do with it.
It hurts,and I mean BAD,to be 0-8 but this team is better than that and while I see ALL the bad I see ALL the good as well and its just frustrating to steadily read posts from ppl who ONLY see the bad!
I'm perfectly fine with waiting 2-4 years to start reeling off 11-5,12-4,13-3,14-2 Seasons because Ive went through 5-10 years of poor to mediocre.
All the haters will be having to buy NEW stuff in 2-4 years because they gave their other stuff to the Goodwill while the realistic fans will STILL have our old Jerseys with holes in them big enough to throw a cat through but we'll accept you back because we know that kids act like kids but never fear baby...Miami will be a beast within 3 years..WATCH!!!!!!!!!!!!
66fan says:
Reason players got time off was coaches were too busy being interviewed by internal affairs on what went wrong this year and couldn't spend time with players.
Don't you guys get it?
The point is not whether they took 3 days or 4 days off. The point is how Cam is coaching his team...like a loser.
Champions do not go home and rest when they are 0-8. Think about it.
Wanna be a loser - do what losers do. Wanna be a champion - do what champions do. Plain and simple.
Cam Cameron is a loser. His records show it. His demeanor shows it and his actions show it. Smells, acts and barks like a dog? - it's a dog...
Excellent post Brian!
There are far too many armchair GM's in this world, and if any of you knew half as much as you think you do about football, then you would be seeing that the team you're watching this season is not Cam's vision for the 'Fins. It's very much a work in progress, and it's going to take some TIME people.
Why don't you either get over yourselves, and get behind the team, or go find another team to beat down. I'm sick of hearing you whine because they aren't doing what you want them to do. Debate is one thing, but HATE posting at the team just shows that you are not a fan of the Dolphins.
This team needs stability, and a long term vision. Cameron offers that, and whether you like it or not, he is the Head Coach of the Miami Dolphins, and I want him, and the team, to succeed. Ignorant fools!
Go Cam!
Go Dolphins!!!
You mean barks like an anonymous HATER who hides behind anonymity?
Loser!
Go Dolphins!!! Beat Buffalo!
DrumFinFan
By the way, that post above was also mine. I wasn't trying to hide. I just forgot my sig.
Go 'Fins!
DrumFinFan
Drumfin, go home. Seriously. It's getting late. Go be with the family. Leave the blog alone for a couple of hours. It'll be good for your soul. Really.
Armando,
I havent been here very long but I have yet to see you post who should be taken in the Draft and what known FA's or prospective FA's should Miami sign.
I mean...I "knew" Trent would get another concussion albeit AFTER he had another one and I "knew" our D would be horrific and allow 30PPG AFTER the fact.
Its rather easy for some to condemn moves and say "I told you so" even though you dont go on record as to what you would or wouldnt do until AFTER the fact.
I guess you can always be right if you play Monday Morning QB,but can you go on record NOW and say what Coach,GM,what QB you would take in the upcoming Draft,what DL you would take,what DB you would take etc.etc.etc BEFORE the Draft or FA market opens up in the Off-Season?
I've played Little League,High School and College ball but havent been around Pro ball like you have for so many years and am curious if you could enlighten me and others on what Wayne should do concerning Randy and Cam.
Should he keep them or fire Randy and/or Cam and hire Parcells and/or Cowher or some other combination?
Should they choose 1 of the Top 3 QB's in the draft or Top DL's or Top DB's or trade down or what?
Should Zach and/or JT be traded,is Ginn a bust,will Beck be a bust,will L.Booker ever play at a high level?
Just curious about your thoughts and insight on any or all of these topics and am eager to hear what you would do if you were the one calling the shots.
Brian, thanks for recently joining me and the others on here.
Obviously you are too much of a newbie for me to be offended by your inference that I am 20-20 hindsight guy. But if you really wonder what I believed and didn't, simply go into the archives.
On there you can find my thoughts on Green BEFORE the Dolphins acquired him. You can find my thoughts on the Ginn pick over Quinn the day it was made. You can see what I've said countless times about Randy Mueller (I think he's good) and Wayne Huizenga (not as good) and practically everything else Dolphin. You might also see that I was the FIRST to advocate trading Jason Taylor and took a lot of heat for it. Then some others started coming around to the idea.
Anyway, it is late. I'll check back tomorrow with your questions looking forward. Meanwhile, don't be suggesting there is much Monday morning quarterbacking going on here without really knowing if that is true or not.
Good night.
Armando,
Thanks for your response.
I fell asleep trying to talk the wife to sleep,she says my voice relaxes her and puts her to sleep but I figure my childhood stories bore her to sleep and shes just being nice :).
Anyway...in my post I shouldve said one or someone or we instead of "you" as in "I guess (you) can always be right if you play Monday Morning QB." because as I said I havent been here long enough to know what YOU said concerning these topics and I honestly didnt mean to imply "you" in particular.
You do seem a bit negative at times,no where near as some,or maybe its me being too positive..who knows.
In any event I feel confident that we both want the same thing and that being Miami to be a powerhouse Organization from top to bottom but only time will tell and I hope its sooner rather than later.
Take care and goodnight.
Sorry Armando,
Sorry to hear there's no room here for optimism, or a different point of view from a FAN. I'll leave your blogs alone. Your boys can hate in peace (note the oxymoron).
Just so you know, I post what I see, and I usually see pretty darn well.
Go Dolphins!!! Beat the Bills!!!
DrumFinFan
Can someone explain to me how positive thinking is supposed to make this team any better? Also, armchair coaches watch what winning teams do to keep on winning and losing teams do to keep on losing! Last time I checked Cameron's record was 0-8! Cameron/Mueller = Loser!
It's too funny that Mike busted Armando recycling old posts from last year. Mando do you run that one every year during the bye? Must be your 'blue collar work ethic'. ROFL
None of you haters seem to realize that teams usually win after the bye because they aren't beat up from a game, and their opponent is - they are fresher. Practicing every day would just reduce whatever advantage is to be gained from being physically fresher, and allowing guys with nagging injuries (all of them basically) to heal up some. As usual, you are exactly wrong.
It's people like not so swifty that really show the ignorance of Dolfans. Armando didn't simply repost the same blog. He wrote about a problem he perceived last year that has been repeated this year.
Breaking news people: The Dolphins sucked last year and they are worse this year. What haven't people gotten about that?
Dear Drum: I did not ask you to leave permanently. I appreciate your additions and opinions on this blog.
But, dude, your first post yesterday was at 3 p.m. and it was 9:30 p.m. and you were still at it on the blog. I simply suggested you get away and change pace until another day. That's all.
I hope I did not offend you as I value you and all the guys on here. Really.
Guys, it's really interesting to me when folks say I'm negative.
If you were to know me, you'd know I am far from negative as I try to believe the best of people. That's probably the reason I actually believed and wrote the Dolphins might be 10-6 this year. Stupid me, I drank the Kool-Aid.
So I am not, by nature, negative.
The truth is, however, that I am writing about a winless team. By definition that means that a lot of things are desperately wrong.
Is the OL doing well? Yes. Was Ronnie Brown having a great season before he got hurt? Yes.
But frankly, that's where it pretty much ends. The Dolphins are 0-8 and if you want me to paint a picture of a team that is pretty good, a team that has all the answers instead of a bunch of question marks, you will not get it here.
At least not until they turn this thing around. At least not until the reality of the situation changes.
Honestly, who cares? The season is toast, so let's focus on the 2008 draft. I say Glenn Dorsey, hands down...but management will probably draft a punter...sigh.
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Armando, if two or three days off would've been acceptable, that means one maybe two extra days of work. I don't think that's what will make the difference right now. The rest is more of a value. We need players on defense line.
Speaking of which, Simeon Rice was just released by the Broncos. Seeing as Cameron claims he needs to win right now, how 'bout getting Rice on the defensive line? What have you heard?
Joe, Margate, FL.
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"It's people like not so swifty that really show the ignorance of Dolfans. Armando didn't simply repost the same blog. He wrote about a problem he perceived last year that has been repeated this year.
Breaking news people: The Dolphins sucked last year and they are worse this year. What haven't people gotten about that?"
Nobody is saying we don't suck..but what was perceived as a problem last year really wasn't a problem. It actually preceded the best stretch we have had in a long time. It preceded us marching into Soldier Field and defeating the undefeated Bears 31 - whatever..Yeah there were some differences in the situation..but they really don't effect the reality that days off are not that bad a thing..
So who is being ignorant here? The people who are repeating the same line that turned out to be hogwash last year or those of us that saw it those missed practices weren't such a giant deal last year.
Bring Marino back just for fun the last 7 games. What the heck, let him sit back and throw and capture some of his records back. I heard he can still throw the ball baby!
Hey Mike, you have your opinion and I have mine. I'm with Armando on this one. If you can't accept that other people have opinions, you don't belong on a blog.
I just want to say that people who were not or are not athletes who trained and competed at a high level don't understand that taking a few days off can be one of the best things that you can do for your body. There is such a thing as overtraining and it is a high-level athletes worst nightmare. Taking a good rest can sometimes improve your stamina and strength by I'd say at least 10% sometimes. These guys are IN SEASON which means their learning curve is minimal, off season and pre-season is the optimal time to learn or try new things. Nothing that they can learn now will change the season, and those who think it will have never really competed or been coached before. Especially at a high level such as the NFL.
Mike, dude just give it a rest. You're getting dumber by the post & we're getting dumber for reading them. Go Dolphins '08!!!
ps. Armando, you do a good job & are very fair in your criticisms.
Can Cam Cam!
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Hey Tommy, I am just responding to your comments...if you can't take that don't read the blog.
Chris, I guess you really put an end to this one. I can't even respond to such a fact filled pointed argument. You really know your stuff!
And ya I generally agree Mando does do a decent job...He needs to learn from the past on this one though.
GO FINS!
st half of the game almost over, we managed 3 points, WOW. Is there any one else on offense other than Chatman & Martin? Damn spread the ball around some. Where the hell is Ginn? The defense is playing hard right now, hope the offense does not let their effort go to waste. Pathetic thus far!! NCFINFAN
I knew that safety was coming!! Miami is one pathetic team, couldnt beat their way out of a wet paper bag. NCFINFAN DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do we have any-one that can catch the F'n Football? Well, Do we?
These boys, the Dolphins, make this game look so Damn Hard, Im glad they are all making big bucks for their hard work. NCFINFAN
How many balls has Booker Dropped/Missed Today?! Where is C Chambers when you need him?
Yeah, Cleo has scored twice today, once for us, the Dolphins, and once for the Bills. Hope our defense continues to play well! We need more points!!!!
Do you all want the truth it looks like Mando probably has never set foot on a football field unless it was to play the tuba and if you think one more day of practice is going to help hagans hold on to the ball or ginn to run routes that is just ignorance they have been playing football for how long now if hagan cant catch by now there is something wrong
Do you all want the truth it looks like Mando probably has never set foot on a football field unless it was to play the tuba and if you think one more day of practice is going to help hagans hold on to the ball or ginn to run routes that is just ignorance they have been playing football for how long now if hagan cant catch by now there is something wrong
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