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Friday, November 30, 2007

The possibilities for Miami's first overall pick

Based on the events of the last week, it is becoming clear the Dolphins will have a grand opportunity to pick up talent in next April's NFL draft and will have a choice how they do it.

With coach Houston "Sometimes I feel like a" Nutt leaving Arkansas as the head coach, it practically guarantees that junior running back Darren McFadden will pass up his final year of eligibility at the school and enter the NFL draft. Thus McFadden will join LSU defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey, Michigan offensive tackle Jake Long, Virginia defensive end Chris Long, and possibly one of the available QBs -- either Matt Ryan or Brian Brohm -- as candidates to be the first player selected.

Assuming the Dolphins have the first overall pick -- I can't believe I'm covering a team awful enough to have that pick -- they will have the option of using the pick on the highest rated player on their draft board or trading and turning it into multiple picks for lower rated players.

So how do I know the Dolphins will have a choice? Because I know of at least one trade partner they will have, assuming egos don't get in the way.

The Dallas Cowboys, holders of two first round draft picks, would love McFadden. Cowboys owner and GM Jerry Jones graduated from Arkansas. He was in the stadium when McFadden rushed for over 300 yards in one game earlier this year and has assigned a scout to each and every Arkansas game this year. And I am told by a Cowboys source, Jones believes adding a star as bright as McFadden to his offense could make the Cowboys unstoppable.

It would give them a triple threat at QB, WR and RB much in the mold of Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith and Michael Irvin.

But the Cowboys, you say, already have two good running backs in Julius Jones and Marion Barber. And that is true blogbreath. But McFadden has the chance to be GREAT. And here's the interesting thing: Jones is unsigned for next year and there have been no talks between the parties about an extension.

And while the Cowboys have time between now and the start of free agency to deal with Jones, it is just as likely they will go in another direction because Barber is already the better of the two and they believe they can draft a complimentary back even if they don't get McFadden.

So here is the question: If the Dolphins have an opportunity to take McFadden with the first pick, should they do it? Or should they trade with the Cowboys or the highest bidder, and go for multiple picks?

Understand that the Dallas first rounders won't be very high. The Cowboys, following last night's victory over Green Bay, are in position to have home field advantage throughout the playoffs and absolutely no one outside of Green Bay would be surprised if they're in the Super Bowl. That means their pick would be no better than No. 31. Even if they falter in the playoffs, the pick would be no better than 24ish.

The other pick they own belongs to the Browns. Guess what? The Browns might get in the playoffs also and, even if they don't, their pick will come in the 16 range.

Personally, I would love it if Miami could get the two first-round picks and, at least, a third this year, and the Cowboys first rounder -- again likely to be a late pick -- next year. Improbable? That's what the draft trade value chart says it will take to even out the deal.

I just think quantity is necessary over quality right now. The Dolphins have needs at NT, DE, WR, LB, CB, TE, RB and OT. McFadden would fill one of those needs with a great prospect.

But idea of filling several of those needs with good prospects somehow seems more inviting.

Your thoughts?

167 Comments:

Blogger jaygunn said...

EXCELLENT POINTS. HOWEVER ITS QUALITY NOT QUANITY THEY NEED.
IT'S BETTER TO HAVE NFL TALENT ON
THE ROSTER THAN CFL WANNA BE'S.

12:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the Dallas Cowboy picks are too low in the first round -- better to find another trade partner with a higher pick (s) or get the Cowboys to throw in something else worthy...

if not, draft mcfadden

12:24 PM  
Blogger Chris Nelson said...

If we took McFadden I'd be so pissed. Ronnie will be back and he'll be fine. He was freaking Pro Bowl bound before the injury. Like you said, Miami has so many holes to fill right now. Because of that, we can't simply take the "best player available" like a team like the Pats could. We HAVE to take a great prospect at a need position.

12:26 PM  
Anonymous James A said...

trading down is the obvious choice IMO but finding the right value will be the challenge. Dallas' picks are too low unless they throw in a strong prospect. RB is not a need. Resign Chatman to give Ronnie Brown the rehab time he needs. Chatman isn't a huge drop off from Ronnie and will do fine.

12:32 PM  
Anonymous MT Rick said...

Trading down a bit would be great -- but we cant afford to trade down that low.
Dallas's 2 picks would put us out of the top 15 this year... thats way too low, even getting next year's #1 from them.
We need a trading partner no lower that about #7-8.

If we cant trade out of it, I still dont think you take McFadden. Get the best Defensive player available. Ronnie will be back, plus Chatman, Cobbs, and maybe Ricky. what are the odds of all of them getting hurt again next season?

12:37 PM  
Anonymous Brett said...

You dont have to try to rile us up with your slights to the Dolphins and the people who read your drivel. Most times your content is enough. Joe Toledo was put on the PUP list.

Brett

12:37 PM  
Anonymous earl said...

2 firsts, a 3rd, and next years first is what this team needs. We would have 6 first day picks!!!!Think what JJ did in Dallas when he traded away Hershel for all those picks, he turned the cowboys into an overnight contender. We need a lot of young talent on this team, and the draft is where you find 'em.

12:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree that we have a lot of holes but how would everyone feel if McFadden turn out to be a Tomlinson type player and Brown is never the same from his injury, which is possible.

12:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trade down and get more draft picks. Look at New England, Indianapolis, Pittsburgh, annual playoff teams that built through the draft, and filled in with free agents where it made sense. Plus the number one pick eats up a lot of cap space. I would like to see Miami have double digit draft picks this year.

12:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I stick to my opinion in the last discussion of the draft.

MCFADDEN
Watch This:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1FCfZoPGEFA

Chase

12:50 PM  
Anonymous Shawn said...

to say you pick for position and not best player available with the first pick is ridiculous.

we will not get the trade value that warrants a #1 pick. the best player in this draft, possibly a continual allstar, is Darrin McFadden.

could you imagine Beck, Ginn, Brown and McFadden on offense! wow.

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12:50 PM  
Anonymous Jay in Raleigh said...

It's tough trading down that low, though...three #1s are an awful lot, though. I think I'd need DAL to sweeten it a little (maybe a #2 instead of a #3), but you've got to seriously consider that if trading down to a higher spot (OAK?) isn't an option. This team is more than one player away and the extra picks could go a long ways toward reshaping the roster.

12:51 PM  
Anonymous Jay in Raleigh said...

And drafting another RB when your only star player is a RB is a luxury a rebuilding team can't afford.

12:56 PM  
Blogger Marcus said...

You have to get as much as possible out of the Cowboys. Jerry Jones and Jimmy came up with the draft chart so I think Jerry will honor it. Two 1's, a 2, a 1 next year plus a player would do it for me. If not, take McFadden. Do you really make the mistake of passing over a true superstar for some unknown chances later in the draft? McFadden behind this line would be amazing. So what if we don't get all the wholes fixed next offseason? We not going to the Super Bowl anyway. Win 6 games and end up top 10 again next year and take another stud. This team is not that bad. They need two playmakers on both sides of the ball. They need a shutdown corner and a playmaker in the front seven. They need a dominant wide receiver and a tight end. The good thing about this offseason coming is that Miami has so many options. Armando, stop crying about covering the Dolphins. You are probably about to have the most fun ever covering a Dolphin's offseason. The Dolphins have plenty of cap room, don't know if JT will be traded, don't know if Zach will retire, we have the first pick so rumors will be flying... You shouldn't have a boring day in 2008.

1:04 PM  
Anonymous SONNY CROCKETT said...

ARE U PEOPLE RETARDED? TRADE DOWN? WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE A PLAYOFF TEAM OVERNIGHT, WE NEED STUDS! IMAGINE TEAMS' DEFENSIVE MEETINGS TRYING TO GAMEPLAN FOR A SPLIT-BACK FORMATION WITH RONNIE BROWN AND DARREN MCFADDEN IN THE BACK FIELD AND TED GINN JR. ON THE OUTSIDE! ONE OF THEM WILL ALWAYS HAVE SINGLE COVERAGE (SEE PATRIOTS THIS YEAR!) IMAGINE LINEBACKERS ON BROWN AND MCFADDEN IN COVERAGE, ARE U KIDDING ME AND THEN IF WE GET A TIGHT END LIKE FRED DAVIS FROM USC WITH OUR LATE 2ND OR 3RD PICK, WE WOULD HAVE A FERRARI OFFENSE. THEIR ARE PLENTY OF DEFENSIVE PLAYMAKERS AVAILABLE IN FREE AGENCY- HAYNESWORTH, JARED ALLEN, T. SUGGS ETC. IF WERE GOING TO PAY PORTER 20 MILLION, THEN WHY NOT ANY OF THESE GUYS PLUS DT IN THE DRAFT IS VERY DEEP, I DONT SEE A 20 MILLION DOLLER DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GLEN DORSEY AND FOR INSTANCE KENTWAN BALMER FROM UNC OR LAWRENCE JACKSON FROM USC, WHO WILL BOTH BE AVAILABLE WITH OUR
2ND RD PICK. ASANTE SAMUEL WILL BE A FREE AGENT, DEANGELO HALL WANTS OUT OF ATLANTA SO ITS NOT A DEFINATE NEED TO GO DEFENSE WITH THE FIRST PICK. AND BY THE WAY, I LOVE WATCHING ALL OF THE REACTIONS OF YOU IDIOTS ON DRAFT DAY ON YOUTUBE WHEN U BOOED GINN JR. AND WANTED PRETTY BOY QUINN (MORONS). HA HA

1:08 PM  
Anonymous Jules said...

Do you people watch the NFL? Very good RBs are a dime-a-dozen. The Broncos make due with toss-offs every year. Willie Parker wasn't even drafted. Finding a 1200-1500 yard rusher is EASY. Miami needs help EVERYWHERE. Trade down for picks. Heck, if Ronnie doesn't bounce back, they'll prolly have a top 10 pick in 2009 too! Take an RB then, take the picks now.

1:19 PM  
Blogger Marcus said...

I'm going to cover two scenerios regarding what Miami should do in the draft.

1st. Keep #1 pick and take McFadden

-Let Jesse Chatman leave via FA
-Sign Asante Samuel
-Sign Dante Stallworth
-Trade JT for 2nd round pick
-Retire Zach Thomas
-Retire Keith Traylor
-Use entire draft besides 1st pick on defense

2nd. Trade with Cowboys get two 1's this year, 2nd this year and 1 next year.

-Trade 1 to Atlanta for Alge Crumpler and D'Angelo Hall
-Trade JT for 2nd round pick
-Sign Dante Stallworth
-Retire Zach Thomas
-Retire Keith Traylor
- Use other 1 and rest of draft on defense

Scenerio 1 leaves you with every pick being used on defense, an explosive receiver, playmaker in the secondary and a possible HOF at RB.

Scenerio 2 leaves you with every pick including a 1 used on defense, an explosive receiver, playmaker at TE and in the secondary and another 1 for next year.

Each scenerio is appealing. What do you think?

1:19 PM  
Anonymous Dave Z said...

If Dallas really wants McFadden, it doesn't have to be their two current #1's. A scenario could unfold where they first do a trade to move up in the round (their latest 1st and a 2nd, 3rd or 4th rounder) to make the 2 1sts more enticing to Miami. If one of the 1sts were in the 10-15 range, Miami would be more likely to jump at it and it wouldn't be too hard for Dallas to make that happen if they wanted to.

1:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't have any specific recommendations, but I do believe that the team's needs are many. If someone is willing to give the team multiple picks this year (and next?) for the #1, take them and run! McFadden isn't what this team needs, and somebody will be willing to pay dearly for him. Just please, please don't waste the picks. This team needs help on the OL and DL--and probably in the scouting dept if the last several drafts are any indication.

1:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

get mcfadden what are you guys nuts not to take this kid. hes gonna be the best running back in two years in the nfl and look what cameron did with tomlinson. i dont even care i will guarantee right now that mcfadden is a dolphin next year if we get the first pick and he comes out of college.

1:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Armando,
its funny I started this same exact thread on dolphins forum after watchin jerry jone on pre game last night. That he would love to take Mcffaden.

I'd say if they use the JJ point system and get enough picks then do it. We need more picks.

1:37 PM  
Anonymous RAHEEM ROCKWELL said...

THE COWBOYS ARE NOT GOING TO TRADE ALL THEIR FIRST DAY PICKS YOU MORONS!AND THE BRONCOS AND STEELERS HAVE 2 OF THE BEST O-LINES AND CAN RUN ON ANYONE SO JULES IS AN IDIOT OBVIOUSLY HE'S WATCHING CANADIAN FOOTBALL.

1:40 PM  
Anonymous Fizz said...

Allot of guys don't come back 100% from the knee injury that Ronnie has. I would take McFadden because he could blow it up. Let Chatman go, let Ricky go or trade, have an amazing, young RB core with Ronnie, Booker, and McFadden. Maybe trade a guy like JT to get more picks to fill in the defensive needs. The only temptation is to get a defensive guy in Dorsey and I would be concerned at how good he really could be in the NFL. LSU is giving up allot of points this year. If you take Dallas picks you would draft to late to get Dorsey anyway. PLus free agency could land them a good defensive lineman.

Tough call, but I think McFadden is one of those talents you just don't pass up.

1:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The deal must be for all the Dallas picks, Just like Ditka did for Ricky.
The bitter part is the Dolphins must lose to the Jets to lock up the first pick.

1:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree Armondo, trade down and get extra picks. Ronnie and Ricky "should" both be back next year, or at least one of them. With so many needs, get as many picks as possible.

1:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First...we would NEVER get a 2nd for JT. And why McFadden? Trade down to Oak, for example, as they need a RB, then we can still be in the running for Chris Long or Dorsey. we do not need O-line help in the top 10. As for Stallworth AND Samuel...sheesh...we will have no money to sign draft picks!

1:52 PM  
Anonymous THE NOOG MAN said...

MIAMI DOLPHINS ARE NOW ON THE CLOCK

1 RD PICK: DARREN MCFADDEN, RB ARK.
2 RD PICK: KENTWAN BALMER, DT UNC.
2 RD PICK: ALI HIGHSMITH, OLB LSU.
3 RD PICK: TRACY PORTER, CB IU
4 RD PICK: MARTELLIUS BENNET,TE TAM

FREE AGENCY

ASANTE SAMUEL, CB
TERRELL SUGGS, OLB

1:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm in the camp of those that say QUALITY Over quantity. Why? Because I've seen what quantity brings you, it brings you an average team. The Dolphins need to take the best player available, or we risk having a ton of avg players that will never get this team to the next level.

1:53 PM  
Anonymous TJ in GA said...

Just to echo what others have said, Miami has too many holes to fill and while McFadden is a great talent and there is uncertainty around Ronnie's return, is RB truly a need for this team? How often do RBs get taken early and fail to pan out in the pros? How many teams are getting by with RBBC (RB by committee) or guys taken in the 2nd and 3rd rounds? For every Barry Sanders, there is a Blair Thomas.

And let's not discredit those mid- to late-1st round picks. Just because you are drafting in the top 5 doesn't mean you get the best player. How many teams wish they could go back and re-address the drafts from 2-3 years ago? Think about all those teams that missed out on the Dan Marino's, Larry Johnson's...heck, the Tom Brady's?!

If the Dolphins stay with their potential (and likely) first overall pick, they have to address an aging defense that has little depth. That's not to say a Jake Long wouldn't benefit the offensive line, but the o-line has performed well this season under Houck. You can pick up quality guys in rounds 2-3. That's why that top pick would be better served on a defensive lineman (preferably Chris Long over Glenn Dorsey, seeing as how Dorsey has had difficulty staying on the field these past few games for LSU. A shutdown corner would be great, but I don't think there is one worthy of taking early in next year's draft. Fill that need by looking for a DeAngelo Hall, who is out of favor with Petrino and the Falcons.

And after saying all that, don't discredit the notion that another team will fall in love with McFadden. Although Dallas has the two #1's, a lot can happen between now and April. Other trades can take place, giving someone else multiple first round or day one picks.

Or someone could trade away a number of picks this year and next for the shot at McFadden. Not knowing the value for a pick, what if a Denver traded their #1, #2 and #4 in this year's draft, plus a #1 and #3 in next year's draft to move up to the overall #1? If Mueller and Cameron draft well with those kinds of numbers, you could really establish the foundation for Miami's future.

Just my two cents...

1:54 PM  
Anonymous DaveinOhio said...

You got to trade down, we need too many good players, and the more picks you have the better chance you have to landing one. If you use all your picks on one guy then that one guy is under a lot of pressure to perform. He will try to make something happen, and when stars do that, they get hurt. Just look at our team this years. Guys pushing to make something happen and they get dragged off the field. We are much better off trading the first pick and using it to get as many picks as we can. Brown will be better next year. We dont need another RB.

1:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would trade down as long as the value adds up with the picks offered in the trade.

We absolutely need as much infusion of new blood as possible, because we are rebuilding, folks.

We need a lanky, speeder receiver to complement Ginn. And we need to start plugging holes in the defense.

Ken in San Diego

1:57 PM  
Blogger Marcus said...

Another thing about the draft... Teams have been getting real stingy lately with draft picks. Everyone and there mama was saying Calvin Johnson was the greatest receiver prospect ever but who traded up to take him? Nobody. And just like the Lions took another receiver... We may have to take another running back...

2:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No to the Cowboys picks, they're too low. We need to still get a high pick (10 or higher) or select Dorsey.

2:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whatever man! Take D-Mac! I am so tired of watching other teams with superior talent kicking our A.S.S...it is time for us to start stock piling talent.

2:09 PM  
Anonymous POOKIE said...

the cowboys will try to move up by packaging a couple picks but jerry jones is not going to do a "ditka" deal and give all the picks up for mcfadden, jones knows how important draft picks are to a team's depth. this is a copy cat league and seeing what adrian peterson and ronnie brown were doing before they got hurt, i dont see teams passing up mcfadden if he's not drafted one then he's def. gone by pick 2. on the flip side the dolphins would have 2 40+ million doller contracts at running back, thats alot of mula tied up in just one position. teams are going to know the dolphins are in a tough position, nobody really wants the first pick anymore because its so hard to get value for it and trade out if there is no one you like at that point so teams know that and they are not going to shower the dolphins with picks. i would talk to the falcons on maybe deangelo hall and their first round pick, that way they can sell tickets and have some excitement back with mcfadden having no vick and we get a shut down corner who is only 24 yrs old and a top 10 pick and maybe they throw a 4th rd pick in and that will make up for trent green, cam is going to have many sleepless nights and it's going to be exciting for dolphin fans. remember the tampa bay bucs when they stunk, they started drafting high and gathering young talent: warren sapp, derrick brooks, john lynch, warrick dunn, ronde barber etc. we are going to get young and fast.football is a cycle and if we keep having years like this we are going to get young, athletic, and fast!

2:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Ronnie is a great talent but is he durable enough to carry the load all season? The last two seasons when he has been the man he has had injuries that have seriously limited his PT. I think that is something that needs to be kept in mind.

2:13 PM  
Anonymous Mark said...

I wouldn't do the trade with Dallas unless they threw in Julius Jones as well. (I can't see them parting with Barber.) Even then, I don't like the idea of not picking until #23 or #24 (Cleveland's pick) unless it's the result of more than one trade-down.

But let's say we do it. We trade with Dallas and let's say we get a mid-second rounder for Jason Taylor. Let's say we're now picking #24 and #31 overall (first round) and #32, #45 (JT), #55 (Chambers) and #63 (from Dallas) in the second round. We could conceivably, depending on how things go, wind up with Frank Okam, DT, Texas; Aqib Talib, DB, Kansas; Lawrence Jackson, DE, Southern Cal; Xavier Adibi, LB, Virginia Tech; Martin Rucker, TE, Missouri; Barry Richardson, OT, Clemson.

Based on one of the recent player rankings I've seen, those are all players who would be available at those picks, and from what I've seen of those players this year, they, as Mandich would say, make my toes tingle.

2:15 PM  
Anonymous special needs coach said...

Cam wont pass on mcfadden. We all know this...

If cam is around, mcfadden.

If its randys call, we'll trade down a couple spots to the rams/jets/vikings/etc for their first and (early) second rounders. You can bet that the jets are eyeing matt Ryan and that the rams would love a shot at Glenn dorsey.

We would end up with the #3, 4, or 5 in first round and mid-30 overall (plus we have two other 2nd rounders).

That would give us 4 picks of the top 40 (assuming the chargers don't win out) Bam!

2:18 PM  
Anonymous Jay in Raleigh said...

Productive RBs can be found almost everywhere. Do you know how many of the top 15 rushing leaders this year were drafted in the top 5? 3, and just so that you don't think that number is skewed, the top 30 contains 5 former top 5 picks, including our own Ronnie Brown.
That number does jump all the way up to 8 if you're wondering how many were drafted in the top 10.
Exactly 14 former first rounders are included in the top 30 rushers for the year.
Selecting another first round RB is simply not what the Dolphins need. The production difference just isn't great enough to warrant the pick, especially when you have a Pro Bowl RB (hopefully) coming back from injury. Now if it's learned that RB won't be back, or make a full recovery before the draft, that may change things, but that doesn't seem likely.

And McFadden is not as good as Adrian Peterson. The ONLY reason AP dropped was injury concerns, he's a more talented/productive/consitent back than McFadden when healthy.

2:20 PM  
Blogger H.C.D. said...

I'm in the camp where here we have the opportunity to take a GREAT player in McFadden. This guy can run, this guy can catch, and this guy can throw....and he's got speed.

You do NOT just give that away. Obviously, I'm not advocating dumping Ronnie Brown. We can still have a 1-2 punch with a Ronnie Brown and a Darren McFadden.

If Dallas really, really wants him...then they better cook up something extremely appealing in terms of multiple picks across rounds. Something tells me I doubt he's going to pull a Mike Ditka and bet the farm on one player. Good for us if he does. Thats what its going to take to bite.

2:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
I agree that we have a lot of holes but how would everyone feel if McFadden turn out to be a Tomlinson type player and Brown is never the same from his injury, which is possible."

I think most fans will be fine if McFadden turns out to be a great back, as long as the picks taken in exchange produce really good players. As per Ronnie, the odds are in his favor of returning, and if he does not, well, it will be hard to second guess the decision to pass on McFadden given 1) all the backs we have now, injured or not, 2) all the need areas that multiple picks would help fill.

2:22 PM  
Blogger H.C.D. said...

I know there are needs, but you also have to consider talent and I firmly believe that no matter what, you take the BEST PLAYER available when it comes to drafting.

You can always pull a trade or work something out later.

Get the best people you can on your team, regardless of position.

2:22 PM  
Blogger Brett said...

OK, here it is, and I'll use 3, simple to understand, words so that everyone gets it:

With our number 1 pick -

Draft Glenn Dorsey
Draft Glenn Dorsey
Draft Glenn Dorsey

With a later round pick, get Corey Lynch, safety from ASU. We can probably get him in the 4-6 round. These 2 alone would be a great start toward shoring up our defense. Go Dolphins! Beat the Jets.

2:24 PM  
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2:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of all the players mentioned as a top 5 pick, Chris Long is the safest pick and probably best value. It would be great if we traded down a couple from number one overall pick and landed him plus a 3rd round pick and 1st round next year. C Long does not take any plays off, is a leader, has a high motor and pedigree for well-grounded success.

Good RBs can be had at a lower cost. Dorsey may be great in the middle, when he shows up. But C Long is best option. I would hope that remaining needs could be addressed by FA and remaining first round picks.

Tom
Richmond,VA

2:31 PM  
Anonymous Miami sports WE STILL HERE said...

We should get Dallas first 1st round pick and their second round pick and the 1st for next year also. In exchange for McFadden. IMO "the draft will be better next year" (2009)

2:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think we draft McFadden and trade brown for a second rounder, there will be a taker for that. How great would it be for the phins to have someone like LT2, a speed receiver in Ginn on the outside(if he works out) and a good QB like Beck. If you build with great talent like McFadden it will be easier for others like Ginn and Beck to be very good!

2:45 PM  
Anonymous sjbytes said...

Forget the stupid "assigned value card". The card takes away the decision making and allows coaches to say well we went with what the card said. Anyone who says draft McFadden doesn't understand the many needs of the Flippers. Three scenarios: Trade the #1 pick to the Falcons for their pick which is currently #4 and DeAngelo Hall plus additional lower round picks. Draft Glenn Dorsey. Hall and Dorsey immediately upgrade the defense then use the 2 second round picks they alreay own to fill more needs. Trade the #1 pick to Dallas for their low 2 first round picks plus a second round pick this year. Flippers would then have 5 picks in the first 2 rounds. That should fill many needs. Scenario #3 is the worst case. Keep the pick and finish what they started on offense by drafting Jake Long. Long is the left tackle. Move Carey to his natural right tackle spot and LJ Shelton is the right guard. Anything else makes no sense.

2:52 PM  
Anonymous MT Rick said...

If you draft McFadden, you have to trade Ronnie -- you can't lock up $45million in two Running backs, that would be absolutely stupid.
Then you dont have money to go after free agents, plus you still have to sign the rest of your draft picks, which includes TWO second rounders.
Aint happenin, folks, unless Ronnie gets traded.

2:53 PM  
Anonymous HP from PA said...

This is why so many fans were upset about the Ted Ginn pick. Everyone gets geared up for a player that doesn't make sense to draft. Julius Jones is a free agent but Marion Barber is a star in the making so I would doubt that Dallas would trade us. We all need to get into our heads that we will most likely draft first and should draft C.Long or Dorsey. McFadden could be special, but the odds say he will be a bust. We took R. Brown, C. Benson & C. Williams have been busts and all were regarded as top tier RB's. Bush was also special but is having a bad year as well. Remember some of these names Curtis Enis, Blair Thomas, Lawrence Phillips, William Green, TJ Duckett, Ron Dayne....all RB's drafted in the first half of the round. 3 to 1 odds a RB is a bust.

2:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok...I would do the trade only if we can get the two #2 picks plus the Cowboys' 2nd round pick, plus Marion Barber....

2:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It doesn't matter whether we pick #1 or #32 current management will find a way to f*(* up the pick.

3:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just like in 2006, the upcoming NFLD Draft doesn't look to be top-heavy, so it would be smart to stock pile picks.
The current Dolphin roster, as pointed out by Peter King at SI, has no draft picks from how many years in a row. Lesson learned right? Be smart in the draft, and the team will improve. Just look at the 2007 Saints!
If Miami can take advantage of Dallas's urgency, why not. Miami will have a bulk of picks in late first round and early second round. I'm sure they can find another series of starters, which is way more important than one star.
Watching this year's team, depth is severely needed on both lines and the secondary, as well as some help in the receiving corps. I would much rather see Miami have 10 or more picks, than stay put with one pick at the top that may, or may not, produce a star with a slew of second-teamers or cast-offs. If Miami can draft wisely (fingers crossed), they can certainly lay a great foundation for a soon-to-be playoff team with a good corps of late first-rounders, early second-rounders and solid third- and fourth-rounders!

3:02 PM  
Anonymous HP in PA said...

People say "Current management keeps screwing up the draft" Please provide some examples to this statement.

3:03 PM  
Blogger Marcus said...

Ok, all of you guys saying no to McFadden, I don't want to hear it when McFadden at his work out jumps 42', runs a 4.3 forty and bench presses 225 30 times. This guy is going to be a freak. He is better than AP. AP was always hurt in college and he will always be hurt in the NFL.

3:04 PM  
Anonymous Aaron said...

Tell me if this is that farfetched of an idea or not:

Trade Ronnie for a low first round (if McGahee can come back from his knee injury and be as good as he's been, then Brown can come back and be just as dominant). Draft McFadden #1 and then you have another first rounder to be creative with.

Crazy or legitimate?

3:06 PM  
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3:08 PM  
Anonymous Eran said...

I say try to trade down only a few spots to the 4-8 range and still get a dominant DL and have an extra 2nd rounder. We can't afford to miss on our first pick and picking in the 20s is just luck.

3:09 PM  
Anonymous HP in PA said...

Marcus, don't you get it. You need a team with good young talent, not one superstar. The more picks you have, the better chance to hit on some of them. Every team has draft players that have not panned out, but when you increase the odds, you improve your chances. Our issue has been we have traded away picks for veterans that are not with us. We need to build through the draft and if we have the opportunity to gather additional picks we should take advantage of it

3:09 PM  
Blogger Marcus said...

We don't score points though. You need a RB that scores points. McFadden breaks through the first wave of players and doesn't get caught. Think about everytime you give this guy a crease, he breaks for a touchdown.

3:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And all you shits saying to trade Ronnie, wtf, same bandwagon morons who were cheering for him in the beginning of the year. Fickle fans are worthless. Yeah, great idea morons, lets trade the RB who led the lead in yards from scrimmage before and two games after he got hurt for a rookie. How Many 100 yard games does reggie bush have in his CAREER, oh yeah...one. Fickle, dumb ass "fans". You cry and cry about our defense all year and praise ronnie. Now its all, "Lets get rid of ronnie, get a new RB and forget about or shit ass defense..YAYYY."

And one more thing, stop giving cam cameron credit for LT's success. The bitch ran for over 400 yards in one game in college. All cam did was give the man the ball.

3:13 PM  
Blogger Marcus said...

There are times when trading down is great but McFadden could be one of the best prospects ever. You don't pass. We have enough picks. This team is not that bad.

3:14 PM  
Anonymous HP in PA said...

You need OL to give him that crease, you need DL & DB's to get you the ball back. You need WR to block downfield to give you the long run or to keep the defense from stacking the line. If you watch McFaddens highlights from the youtube link, he has huge holes to run through. Look how well that his back up felix jones has run, that is not a coincidence.

3:14 PM  
Anonymous UCFfinfan said...

Marcus you really just dont get it man.

"We don't score points though. You need a RB that scores points. McFadden breaks through the first wave of players and doesn't get caught. Think about everytime you give this guy a crease, he breaks for a touchdown."

3 Weeks ago no one complained abut the offense, fickle fickle. And think about this, he runs in COLLEGE not the NFL. And in COLLEGE he doesnt lead in ANY rushing category, not attempts(K Smith), not yards (K Smith), not average(Hell, his BACKUP beats him there) and not in touch downs( K smith). Stop drooling over a mediocre RB who wont help the fins in anyway once Ronnie is back.

3:17 PM  
Blogger Marcus said...

Yeah and where did this OL come from? Liwenski was a cast off, Hadnot 6th round, LJ Shelton was a cast off. They provide room all the time. How many players can play at once? We have a couple of good young defenders all ready. I'd rather have McFadden than two extra rookies sitting on the bench.

3:18 PM  
Anonymous MT Rick said...

Look, I'm sure McFadden is gonna be good. Nobody's arguing against that.
But prior to Ronnie's knee injury, he was leading the LEAGUE in yards from scrimmage -- and what was our record, 0-6?

So, say we draft McFadden, and say he also leads the league in yards from scrimmage... But now, we have soo much $$$ wrapped up in running backs, that we cant afford any defensive help, and the defense plays this same way next season.
Guess what, 0-11 again next year.
So even if McFadden ends up leading the league in yardage, HE DOES US NO GOOD. We need defensive line help, we need secondary help, we need a TE who can catch, we need another WR who can catch.
You have to spread your salary cap around, you cant lock up 20% of it on 2 running backs.
dig it?

3:19 PM  
Anonymous HP in PA said...

Amen Mt Rick

3:21 PM  
Anonymous ucf finfan said...

mt rick, dont waste your time, marcus is too busy on youtube watching mcfadden juke out 19 year olds.

3:23 PM  
Blogger Marcus said...

I know talent when I see it. And we really haven't scored much all year. The scoring picked up when Ronnie got hot, dropped off when Ronnie got hurt. How many of you guys said trade down and pick a CB over Ted Ginn? Ok, I give you the deal right now, what two guys do you want? Revis? Leon Hall? Aaron Ross? None of these guys can hold Ted Ginn's jock. I would love to be a GM and you guys be the other GMs.

3:23 PM  
Anonymous Aaron said...

To the anon who's afraid to use his real name, why do you think people who want to trade brown are bandwagon fans. maybe you dont know what youre talking about. Brown is an excellent back who will have many good years in football. But lets face it, he will not be a hall of fame back. McFadden on the other hand, has that potential. If you could still obtain a first round for brown, and end up with easily the best college player right now who just so happens to play browns position, why wouldnt you. Thad doesnt mean that people have given up on brown, it just means they're interested in maximizing the teams potential. youre an idiot.

3:26 PM  
Anonymous Aaron said...

the only way we should draft McFadden, is if we trade Ronnie for a late first rounder, period.

3:29 PM  
Anonymous ucf finfan said...

aaron, I'm an idiot? Yet you just told me that a kid playing college ball is going to be in the NFL HoF. wow........ And Reggie Bush is gunna be the all time leading rushing i bet. dumbass.

3:29 PM  
Anonymous ucf finfan said...

And how are you gunna say he is the best player in college football? What pipe are you smoking, he doesnt lead in ANY rushing category, not one. He has only 15 tds rushing on the year, Tim freaking Tebow has more than that. What I ask, what has mcfadden done this year for you to tell me he is the BEST player in college football, when his stats are dwarfed by three running backs ahead of him? Face it, he isnt even the best back in college football.

3:32 PM  
Anonymous Dolfan said...

Do you want an Adrian Peterson (Minnesota RB) type player or two or three projects that may or may not become starters? The choice is obvious to me.

3:34 PM  
Anonymous Aaron said...

he isnt the best college football player yet he is leading the heisman race, last i checked, that award was reserved for the best player in college football. wow, your iq is lower than i thought. and if you even came close to passing reading comprehension in elementary school, then you would be able to understand that i said McFadden has HOF possibilities, i never said he was going to be in the hall. man youre stupid. and what is your fascination with bush, you tell me when he even came close to rushing for over 300 yards in one game in college. Bush isnt a true running back, he is a play maker. plain and simple. please stop talking before you hurt yourself.

3:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

as long as parcells is running the dolphins draft in 2008 that's all that matters!!!!!!!!!

3:39 PM  
Anonymous Curt said...

Does anyone know if Cam knows McFadden's family?

3:44 PM  
Anonymous ucf finfan said...

aaron, he only leads in the race because tebow is a sophmore and dixon got hurt. His back up has more than 60% the yards he has, 4 less tds and almost double his average with a third of the carries. Dont get caught up in a BUSTED heisman race this year like the rest of the mindless espn whatching drones. The heisman winner goes to the most popular player, not the best or the kid who led his team with a better record and 50+ tds would win it. plain and simple, peace.

3:48 PM  
Anonymous Aaron said...

think what you want to think. good luck in special-ed class.

3:52 PM  
Anonymous ucf finfan said...

and also, where are you getting your facts, he is third in the polls behind Tebow and Daniels. get your facts strait. And good joke, insult my intelligence, whatever makes you sleep better. At least I talk out of my mouth and not my ass.

3:56 PM  
Anonymous TJ in GA said...

The same assumptions keep being made over and over - that McFadden is clearly the best player in the draft and that he will be a stud in the NFL. Maybe he will. And if so, great for him and the team that drafts him.

When Reggie Bush was drafted, he was a "can't miss" prospect. How's he been with the Saints? Average? Still too soon to tell how his career will pan out, but don't put him in Canton yet.

What about when Michael Vick was drafted #1? He was tabbed as the guy who would redefine the QB position. As exciting as he was to watch run around, he never became a quality passer.

Or when the Raiders took Robert Gallery at #2? He was another "can't miss" prospect. He has struggled since making it into the NFL. He's getting better, but he is still an average NFL lineman.

All I am saying is this - everyone who thinks Miami should take a non-need player like McFadden based off his potential should remember that the league is full of guys who were going to be the "Next Big Thing."

And again, regardless of whether the Fins trade the pick or keep it, how does another RB really help this team when the RBs we have now have had one of the highest yards per carry average in the league? Wouldn't that pick (or picks) be better used on the offensive line or defense?

4:01 PM  
Blogger Matt said...

I say go with the picks. In retrospect, Randy Mueller seems to know what he is doing. Give him a chance to make this team shine in the draft again. McFadden is a sexy pick, but a silly one.

We have to take a chance on this one, go out on a limb and get the picks. Ronnie Brown should be back next year. If he isn't, the line is making even a (when not hurt) Jesse Chatman average around 5 yards a carry.

4:23 PM  
Anonymous taylor775 said...

if I were you guys I would wait till the combines. After they are done testing all the players we will all know alot about Mcfadden. This is exactly what happened AP,Rick,ETc. These type of players were already a sure bet after the combines. Lets all wait and see what kind of potential Mcfadden has. We already seen him on TV.

4:42 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

We had a Running back that accounted for over 2200 yards in one season and we didn't even make the PLAYOFFS! Yes, I'm speaking of the Rumblin' fumbler himself, Ricky Williams. Ronnie Brown WILL BE a force, and he's still got plenty of gas in the tank. A decent back-up, or solid 3rd down back is all we need. I think with the group we have now we can get that done. McFadden is INCREDIBLE, there's no doubt about that, but that strategy didn't work. We tried that. One the other hand. New England has been eyeballin' McFadden also, and they hold Arizona's First round pick. So, even though they lost theirs, they'll still have a top 10 pick.....Sucks huh? Either way, as much as we'd hate to trade a guy like that to the Pats, we need long-term positions, not skill positions. We need Offensive and Defensive linemen that will last a decade....Guys like Tim Bowens, Daryl Gardner, Ruddy....I don't follow college ball, so I couldn't say who, but skill players are there every year. If there's a linemen that COULD BE great, that's who we should nab. The exception to the skill position would be if there's a shutdown corner out there, or safety....At least that's my take.

4:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RB is the position where you can make an immediate and dramatic impact in the NFL. Take for example the NFL's best rusher, Peterson who is a rookie in Minnesota. Get tremendous value or take McFadden.

4:47 PM  
Blogger jimmy said...

All this talk about trades sound great, but in reality it takes two teams to make a trade. Making trades in the NFL are not as easy as making trades in Madden.
Why would Dallas trade with Miami?
They know we don't need a running back and the Rams are set with Jackson. If they want to make a trade for McFadden they could make an offer with anyone else in the top 5 and offer a lesser price than what they would have to give up to Miami. The only way a deal will happen with Miami is if Dallas or anyone else wants McFadden so badly that they want to get him before anyone else. Unfortunately now days, blockbuster trades ala Hershel Walker rarely happen. Teams are getting wiser and realizing the value of draft picks. Knowing the Dolphin's luck, New England will be the team getting all the draft picks for McFadden.

5:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AP was an exception, how many backs have broken 1.2K in their rookie year. RB in college get hit by 30 year old pros when they come in their first year.

5:29 PM  
Anonymous Dave said...

Dallas would need to sweeten the deal more than that. I'm sure that JJ could get a late first-round pick (or an early second and third) for Marion Barber. Add that to this year's firsts and next year's first and I'm ALL OVER THAT. The former scenario gives us four picks in the first 32 -- NT Frank Okam, CB Aqib Talim, OE Quentin Groves, and one of the WR's would plug a lot of holes.

6:31 PM  
Anonymous Dan said...

Rebuilding a team is a marathon, not a sprint. Running Backs have the shortest career span of any position due to injury. We need to ride out Ronnie Brown (who could be great if he could stay healthy) while keeping a dependable backup. The list of positions we need to fill is large. On offense alone, we would be better suited upgrading WR, OT, and TE before we touch the RB position. The offense needs to become more vertical. I would also upgrade DT, CB, S, OLB, and DE before running back. We need as many picks as possible.

7:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Back in 1999 the Saints gave up THEIR ENTIRE DRAFT to move up from, what, 9 to 4? AT THE VERY LEAST, the Cowboys should have to give up their two first-round picks, their second-round pick and next year's first-round pick if they want the first overall pick in the draft. I'd definitely pull the trigger on such a trade. We could definitely use an extra second-round pick along with two extra first-round picks. Trade JT for another second-round pick and we'd have two first-round picks and three second-round picks this year. To top it off, we'd also have two first-round picks next year. We could use that.

7:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the last 20 years how many times has the #1 pick been traded? Twice maybe? In those situations, how many times did the team giving up the #1 pick not get a top 5 pick in return?

Odds say if Miami gets the #1 pick then they'll keep it, either because they can't get a good enough trade down partner or they fall in love with whoever they think is the best player in the draft.

In that case, since McFadden is one of the top 3-4 players in this draft he's going to draw a lot of interest from Miami (and justifiably so). If McFadden grades out considerably higher than Chris Long and Dorsey, I'd be disappointed if we passed on him simply because DL is a more pressing 2008 need than RB.

7:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You could trade down and get Ray Rice later on. He is a powerful back...

7:24 PM  
Anonymous finndolphan said...

you wan't examples of current management's incompetance?where do i start?trent green?joey porter?how about lorenxo booker?paul solalai?it's a miracle jason allen was allowed to play because of injuries otherwise he'd be in a pat's jersey next year!this is the most poorly managed team in pro sports for fu#k sakes!and why the fu4k hasn't rex hadnot been signed to a godamm extension yet?he'll be in a pat's jersey next year too mark my words!

7:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pick either Dorsey or Long with the first pick. Both will solid, if not great, players who will be around for ten years.

Even the best running backs usually only produce three or four years of greatness. And we have two potential pro bowl backs - Brown and Williams.

The O-line is a bigger problem than most realize. We get pushed around by the big d-lines. We need a dominant OT. I go with Long.

7:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets face a couple truths most of you are clueless about.

1. Ronnie Brown. Except for four games this year, Ronnie has been pedestrian. After the first two games (32 and 33 yards rushing, 2.9 average), half you nitwits were exclaiming he sucked and we needed to get rid of him. 4 decent games and you proclaim him a Pro Bowler. Morons.

2. McFadden. He has played how many games in the NFL? Oh, he could be the best RB ever? Yeah, and if my mother had a dick, she would be my father.

Miami simply waits for the best available offer. No high picks forthcoming, you trade Ronnie and take Mac if you believe the hype. Or you have balls and take Mac and then solicit trade offers ala San Diego with Eli.

Oh yeah, lastly, this isn't Madden football. You don't get to compose dream teams and dream trades which benefit you solely. There are other teams involved and they know how dumb the person they are trading with is (for many of you.)

7:32 PM  
Blogger Jon said...

ya'll are stupid! You either trade Mac or take someone else. RB's are not worth the $30+ million the 1st pick will command. Make a trade for multiple picks or take another position. Cam has shown you don't need a superstar at running back.

8:35 PM  
Anonymous Alf said...

The dolphins are an old team and need to get younger. We need as many picks as possible so trading down is the right move. There could be a lot of other trade partners then just the Cowboys. Jerry Jone usually gets what he wants which is good for the Dolphins during the draft. Trade down, get younger and save the cap space (Russell got 30M guaranteed)

8:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We has to go quarterback with the top pick.

9:14 PM  
Anonymous JohnDB said...

First of all, talk of just trading Jason Taylor like he's just another chump is wrong , he's earned and deserves better than that. He is a really good football player, but a Great Dolphin.
When I think of Dorsey as the first pick all I can think of is "Big Daddy Wilkenson" we need much more production from the first pick.
People really should not discount Kevin Smith from UCF he is pretty awesome to watch, although he's just a junior.
Anyway forget the draft right now it's way too early there's too much time for injuries to totally change everything.
DESTROY THE JETS!

9:14 PM  
Anonymous COMMON SENSE said...

TELL ME WHAT U GUYS THINK:

OUR DEFENSE 2008 "CAPERS' 3-4 HYBRID" HE LOVES:

DE-JASON TAYLOR
DT-KENTWAN BALMER(2ND PICK)
DE-CHRIS LONG (1ST PICK)
LOLB-JOEY PORTER
MLB-CHANNING CROWDER
MLB-ZACH THOMAS
ROLB-TERRELL SUGGS (FREE AGENT)
CB-DEANGELO HALL(TRADE 3RD RD PK)
CB-WILL ALLEN
FS-JASON ALLEN
SS-RENALDO HILL

OUR OFFENSE

QB-JOHN BECK
RB-RONNIE BROWN
TB-LORENZO BOOKER
WR-TED GINN JR
WR-LIMAS SWEED (2ND RD PICK)
WR-DEREK HAGAN
TE- LJ SMITH (FREE AGENT)
OL-VERNON CAREY
OL-MAX STARKS (FREE AGENT)
C-SAMSON SATELE
OL-LJ SHELTON
OL-JOE TOLEDO
THE SHELF LIFE FOR A RB IS 4 YEARS YOU CANT PUT 45 MILLION INTO ANOTHER RUNNING BACK(MCFADDEN), AS FOR DORSEY, YES HE'S A MONSTER BUT HE HAS HAD A NAGGING BACK AND FOOT INJURY EVER SINCE HE WAS CHOP-BLOCKED IN THAT GAME AGAINST MISS. AND I DONT THINK THERE IS A 25 MILLION DOLLAR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GLEN DORSEY AND FRANK OKAM (TEXAS)OR KENTWAN BALMER (UNC) WHO WILL BOTH BE AVAIL. @ OUR 2ND RD PICK. DEANGELO HALL WANTS OUT OF ATLANTA BAD AND ASANTE SAMUEL IS FROM UCF! SO WE COULD LURE EITHER OF THEM BOTH TO SOUTH BEACH, YOU KNOW THEY WOULD COME HERE IN A HEART BEAT AND BE "THE MAN". THE FALCONS WOULD JUMP ON THE FIRST PICK IN THE 3RD RD IF WE OFFERED IT! (RANDY MOSS WAS A 4TH) ALBERT HAYNESWORTH AND TERRELL SUGGS ( T. SIZZLE) ARE BOTH FINE ADDITIONS FOR OUR D IF WE CHOOSE TO GO THAT ROUTE, MANAGEMENT MIGHT BE A LITTLE GUN SHY AFTER GIVING PORTER 20 MILLION, I STILL THINK JOEY PORTER WILL CONTRIBUTE WELL FOR US, DONT EXPECT HIM TO BE LIKE HE WAS IN '06 BUT A FINE PLAYER. LJ SMITH WOULD BE A STEAL AT TE FROM THE EAGLES, I LIVE IN PHILLY, HE RUNS HIS MOUTH ALOT BUT IS ALWAYS BEATING LB'S. HE DEFINATELY WONT RETURN TO THE EAGLES NEXT YR! AS FOR WR, THERE WILL BE FREE AGENTS LIKE; PATRICK CRAYTON FROM THE COWBOYS AND BERNARD BERRIEN FROM THE BEARS AND THE DRAFT HAS SOME NICE DEPTH @ WR WITH LIMAS SWEED (TEXAS) AND LAVELLE HAWKINS (CAL.) AVAIL. WITH OUR LATE 2ND OR 3RD RD PICK! MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS DB'S. WE HAVE TO JUMP ON EITHER ASANTE SAMUEL, RONDE BARBER OR DEANGELO HALL OR GO AFTER ANTOINE CASON(U ARIZONA) WHO I SAW RUN 2 PICKS BACK FOR TD'S AGAINST OREGON. ALSO WATCH FOR TRACEY PORTER FROM IU, CAM COACHED AT INDIANA U. AND PORTER RAN THE FASTEST 40 TIME OF ALL CB'S IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL BUT HE'S RANKED AS A 2ND RD PROSPECT AND NOT A FIRST FOR SOME REASON?, HE COULD BE A STEAL. THE DRAFT IS OK IN DEPTH WITH LB'S LIKE; BEAU BELL, ILB UNLV/ XAVIER ADIBI, VT/ TAVARES GOODEN,MIA/ SHAWN CRABLE, MICH./ ALI HIGHSMITH, LSU. WE NEED A LB THAT CAN COVER, CROWDER AND PORTER CAN'T KEEP UP WITH TE'S AT ALL AND PLAY THE BALL VERY POORLY DOWN FIELD, THEY ARE BEST IN ZONE WHERE THEY CAN DROP INTO COVERAGE AND GET PICKS LIKE PORTER DID IN THE STEELERS GAME. WITH THE PICKS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WE SHOULD WALK AWAY WITH A PLAYMAKER AT ALL 3 LEVELS OF THE DEFENSE AND USE OUR LAST PICK ON DAY ONE OF THE DRAFT FOR OFFENSE IF WE WANT FOR A WR OR TE! AND THIS IS W/O ALL THESE CRAZY SCENARIOS WITH TRADING PICKS WITH THE COWBOYS! THE HELL WITH THE COWBOYS AND MCFADDEN, IF WE DRAFT STRAIGHT UP WE WILL BE FINE.

9:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who cares, we should all get on with our own lives the waste time worshipping thug millionaire atheletes that would be working in convenience stores otherwise.

9:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ALL SHALL SEE THE TUNA MAN IN JANUARY HE'S COMING!!!!!!!!

9:42 PM  
Anonymous Dolfan in Denver said...

To those who said the fins can't afford ($$$) to take McFadden first, you were dead on. No reason to wrap up so much cap space on two RB's.

Ronnie Brown will be just fine. He not a "pedestrian" back as one said. A good running team has a 1000+ yd rusher and a quality 3rd down back to compliment him. We already have that. If you want to use the first two games this season as a guage for Ronnie, you can't leave out the fact that he only got 50% of the carries in the those games, and look what happened when he got more of the load - HE EXPLODED! McFadden is more like Reggie Bush (who has been AVERAGE) than Ronnie.

Here is how the RB position works: A good OL coach (Houck is one of the best!) and a good OL makes an average RB great. See Terrell Davis and Mike Anderson. A bad OL makes even a good RB less than average. See Clinton Portis.

That said, drafting McFadden #1 is a horrible move for the fins. Use that pick to either 1) Trade down and stockpile picks as Armando and many of you have mentioned. Use those picks to shore up the aging D, and make the OL that much better. Or 2) use the #1 pick on an OL like Long, and use the other picks to shore up the D and fill the other gaps. Trading that pick to ATL for Hall and their 1st and 2nd would be a dream scenario.

10:40 PM  
Anonymous ucf finfan said...

Johndb, right on, glad to see other people know of 24k. Watch him on sat at 12 on espn, last time he played tulsa he had 170 and 3 tds in the first 30 min.

10:41 PM  
Anonymous Rick @ the Blue said...

Shawn... Go take your Fifth Column conspiracy theory B.S. somewhere else. We're talking football here. You are an idiot.

If the Fins do end up with the #1 pick (yech) The logical play would be to trade down. I'm not sure having a 50 million dollar backfield (Brown + Mcfadden) would be smart especially with all the holes this team has. Trade down to Dallas, pick up their 2 #1's plus a #2 plus a player or another pick next year. (If Jerry Jones really loves McFadden, he'll pay) now you have 2 #1's 3 #2's. In fact, since N.E. lost their pick, you can say that we will have 3 #1's. That's 5 picks in the first 2 rounds! How can you turn that down? Five picks in the first two rounds equals five new starters. That is what this team needs.

10:44 PM  
Anonymous ajdicesare28 said...

The offense isn't clicking yet, but it will. It's the defense that is going to need an injection of young blood next year. So, trading down to get 2 decent defensive players might make more sense, don't you think? Poor Zach needs to retire before - as his brother-in-law suggested - he becomes scrambled eggs. Taylor, Porter and others ain't gettin' any younger either. Defense. Defense. Defense!

10:46 PM  
Anonymous Mr. Anonymous said...

I hate you Armando. You are a scum sucker. Why are you even covering the dolphins? All you do is trash them. Someone should trash you. Go Beck, Go!

10:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trade to Cowboys, Get two 1's a 2 and a 3 this years 1 and 2 next years 2, Combine a 1 and a 2 and moveback into the top 5 and pick Chris long. Still leaves two 2's this year has a lower cap hit and signing bonus and we end up with quality top notch player and a 3 next year. if no trades you gotta take McFadden. If yuo don't then Jones trades with someone below us and that hurts more.

10:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

does it matter-we will find some way to screw it up!

11:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Armando should move away and cover the Patriots. Maybe then he can quit whining sooo much all the time. All he does is beef about the Dolphins and it'splayers. Dont support a hater by bloggin here.

11:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Armando,
I've read your posts and heard your voice 10 times more than I ever wanted to.

Your opininions are so off the wall and your points are flat out wrong.

You are obnoxious, posses a false arrogance when there should be none because you don't know what you are talking about, and, you are totally clueless. These are the nice things I have to say about you.

In reality, you have no concept of whats happened in this town, no concept of what the real supporters feel and... AND..no concept of where this town's feelings are going. For you to sit here on your hispanic high horse and criticize everything that the anglo originators built is wrong as well.

I was born here and grew up here. You are so out of touch with the many me's around here. you are just completely out of touch. TOTALLY OUT OF TOUCH.

790 has the same problem the Dolphins have: A cheap owner who cares only about profits and quality always plays second fiddle.

Do us all a favor and save your third world point of view for the only ones who want to hear it: Third World Countries!!

Do the world right! Go get a job where you truly belong. Broadcasting for the Honduras or Haitian Network. This is your calling, truly.

Anyone who grew up here certainly doesn't appreciate your off the wall, outer space commentary, nor does anyone who has supported this team for life embrace you. Pass your pen to someone who has a clue. If your owner reaches into his pocket, he might be able to land a former player. Do the town right. Step aside. Let us bring this team back to a time when it was great. A time where Wayne, 790 or armandoo never walked and was never welcomed.

You Suck!

HIT THE ROAD!!!!!!!!

12:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its funny... I sure havent heard anyone complain about the vikings for picking adrian peterson after they just finished the season with a 1000 yard rusher chester taylor... That was with the worst pass defense in the league and an offensive line thats good enough to support a RB that isn't the most skilled, but they still took the best player available! WOW! All you hear on ESPN is how smart they were.
The moral of the story is: TAKE MCFADDEN!!!!!!!!!!!

Chase

12:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Chase,
Guess who Minnesota's GM is? If you answered: Spielman! You are 1000 % correct.

Isn't it funny how all the best guys suck when they become Dolphins, and yet, are great before and after they are Dolphins??

Maybe the real problem with Wayne's Dolphins are: they are Wayne's Dolphins?

Maybe Wayne is the problem? If you are leaning to more than maybe... you might really be on to something.

1:20 AM  
Anonymous Peter LaCock said...

Three first round picks and a 2nd or 3rd round pick for the rights to McFadden? Seems pretty simple. I'd take 4 high picks for one guy in a heartbeat, everytime.

1:51 AM  
Blogger Armando Salguero said...

Folks, I have news: Taking the strong suggestion of the anonymous bigot who hates me for being Hispanic and blames me for causing all the Dolphins problems, I will stop blogging as of now.

I am passing this blog over to a non-Hispanic. I am also asking my agent to seek out opportunities for me on the Honduras Network -- even though I'm Cuban, it doesn't matter because we all look alike.

Also, if the HTN {Honduras Television Network} doesn't hire me, I will be volunteering my services as domestic help or as a migrant worker because that obviously is where the turd who posted his hate would want to see me.....

.... On second thought, I'll stay and he can kiss my butt.

By the way, I'm leaving the post up because it doesn't use profanity and it is a shining example of why this country needs more mental institutions.

2:07 AM  
Blogger brian said...

Brian C. says....

Armandooooo..You rock bro!!

2:56 AM  
Anonymous Flowtsen said...

Economists (http://cbdr.cmu.edu/seminar/Massey.pdf) have shown that high first-round picks are strongly over-valued (i.e., the draft value chart is wrong). In terms of salary, players drafted early in the first-round are extremely costly, while their payoff in terms of expected performance is only weakly better than that of late first-round picks. Accordingly, trading down ALWAYS PAYS. By the way, that's how the Patriots have built their dynasty.

8:04 AM  
Anonymous Joe, Margate FL. said...

A great player like Mcfadden may be equivalent to filling multiple needs because of what other defenses will have to do in order to compensate for his performance.

For example, a good RB brings 8 in the box which makes Ginn a more dangerous weapon.

With a GREAT RB, the opposing defense is on the field longer keeping our defense in rest mode effectively making them better.

For those who say we have Ronnie and Ricky already, judging from our team alone, not to mention the entire NFL this year, you can never have to many RBs.

8:25 AM  
Anonymous Jimmy The Finger said...

The thought of what these morons (Cam Cameron and Randy Mueller) will do with the First Overall Pick is outright terrifying. This will be a six month root canal, with them playing coy and close to the vest. Then they're going to walk up to the podium with that George W. Bush smirk on their face and announce something which will make Eric Kumerow look like Dan Marino. Like "Miami has traded their First Round Pick to the Dallas Cowboys for Julius Jones, Terry Glenn and an 8th Round Pick Next Year. We're lucky you can't Draft and/or Trade for the Brooklyn Bridge, otherwise these idiots would be going after it.

OFFENSIVE LINE! People call it the "bright spot" of the Season. We're going 0-16. (Excuse me, maybe 1-15.) That still don't make them good. Our line is still rated 45th in a 32 Team League. You can't run, you can't pass without an Offensive Line. Ours sucks.

Still, if Cameron and Mueller are still in charge, the team will continue to stink on ice. These guys are the Atom Bomb. We're looking at Nuclear Winter of truly biblical proportions. Huizenga could've put a Flounder cap and a headset on a chimpanzee, stuck him on the sideline, he'd have the same record.

8:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The old saying goes " Don't put all your eggs in one basket", It would only take one play to put a number one pick on IR, not worth the chance. Besides, how many average Dolphin players have been traded to other teams only to become stars? By taking a number of picks for our number one, maybe our second rate coaching staff can put together a couple of wins next year. Yea, you guessed it, I don't believe the Dolphins problems are the players, but rather an incompetant coaching staff, this is what really needs to be addressed in the off-season.

8:26 AM  
Anonymous ECJ said...

The chances of us trading down are very, very slim. In the event that we can't trade out (highly likely - we're talking a 60+ million contract at that spot, with 34 or so of that being bonuses and guarantees), what's wrong with Chris Long or Glenn Dorsey? Dominant players are dominant players, and luckily for us the top 3 are so good as to really be interchangable in terms of impact. We'll be fine. The real trick is going to be the 3 other picks, the 2a, 2b, and third round picks.

8:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What you are proposing is a perpetual 500 team. The best always get you to the top. Always. You always take the best player. Not try to fill holes with people that have no NFL experience. I don't think I could watch another game if they go 0-32.
I don't want a perpetual development team for New England. Trade Ronnie for a couple of first rounders if you need picks. (Just don't trade him to New England)
Ginn is a good pick if not a great pick and the best player available at number 9. I am glad they took him. I like Beck.
If you want to make a trade for Number one, take a bunch of the Dallas second and third year starters. Offensive and defensive for the number 1. The number 1 for 6 or 7 of their starting team. A couple of our guys would still fit. Leave the rest. That would do it for me. Save us time developing players. Demote the coach to OC and get and new DC. Get a real head coach.

9:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All this talk is for naught. With Camoron and Mueller, they'll find a way to screw the pooch on this draft too. They will piss off us Dolfans is what's more likely to happen. I HATE CAMORON!

10:28 AM  
Anonymous James said...

Trade with ATL for DeAngelo Hall and 1st and 2nd picks, then:

DT- Sedrick Ellis USC(1st Rd from ATL) 6'2" 305lb nice size to stop the run

WR- Lima Sweed UT(2nd Rd)6'4" 217lb good size to match the speed of Ginn

OLB- Josh Barret ASU(2nd Rd from ATL) 6'3" 231 lb currently plays safety, we move him to play OLB to cover TE's and RB's, you know has the speed and the cover ability.

TE- Martin Rucker Mizz or Kellen Davis MSU(2nd Rd from SD)(Rucker) 6'6" 255lb, (Davis) 6'6" 245 lb, both good size and hands (Side note Antonio Gates 6'4" 260lb)


Offense:
QB-Beck
RB-Brown
FB-Mauia
WR-Ginn
WR-Sweed
TE-Rucker or Davis
OL- stays the same

Deffense:
DE-Taylor
DT-Ellis
DE-Roth
OLB-Porter
OLB-Barret
ILB-Thomas
ILB-Crowder
CB-Hall
CB-W.Allen
FS-J.Allen
SS-Bell

Late in the draft OL, DL, & DE.

10:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are some of you who think RB isn't a need for us? Let's see...

Brown - coming off a major knee injury, has missed games every year in the NFL due to injury, was injured several years in college. Explain to me why anyone would count on this guy starting 16 games for us.

Williams - coming off shoulder injury, been out of the NFL for 2 years, failed 4-5 drug tests, just as likely to go live in a tent and smoke pot as he is to play football again. How many times are Dolphins fans going to be fooled by this guy?

Chatman - a free agent who might not even be here, was out of the league last year after downing too many Big Macs, has been hampered by injuries lately. When was the last time this guy started 10+ games for anyone on any level? Will he stay away from the buffet line?

Cobbs - Who?

Booker - Marty Booker is a WR, not a RB. What's that? We have another Booker on this roster? Wonder why we haven't seen him? I guess Cobbs and a pot head who has been out of the league for 2 years are pretty tough to beat out.

Folks, if McFadden is clearly the best player in this draft (may or may not be true, but for argument sake lets say it's true) then we have to take him. If by some miracle Ricky stays off drugs this time and Ronnie stays healthy this time then having too many Pro Bowl caliber running backs is a problem I'd love to have.

If you're going into '08 thinking you can rely on Ronnie and Ricky for 16 games then you haven't been paying attention.

10:59 AM  
Anonymous RunRickyRun34 said...

Armando, assuming that the Dolphins are unable to trade down with another team, who do you think the Dolphins should select? I know if you answer you'll be open to more bashing but I would like to know who you think the fins should pick. thanks

11:57 AM  
Anonymous Harry Potter said...

Armando,

I always ask myself: "if you have so many transcendental things to do, why you keep on reading all this stuff and comments?"... well your cynicism and sarcasm, v. g. the way you answered the anti-latino guy, is one of the reasons.

Man, you're sharp. I mean, it doesn't matter if you use cheap resources to get us involved, either ways you achieve your goal. Just look at all of us morons! Haha!

And from all the spectacular responses the dudes here have posted (like getting both of the first plus a second and the third from the cowboys and some players on their roster, and so on -man, are they retarded?) I'll suggest (I mean, if they can be so dumb, why couldn't I?):

TRADE OUR #1 PICK FOR THE 52 GUYS ON NEW ENGLAND'S ROSTER PLUS "BELLA-CHICK" (otherwise it makes no sense). Waive all of our current players. That'll make us contenders from one day to the other and fill up all of our needs.

Is that stupid enough?

2:07 PM  
Blogger Armando Salguero said...

The responder was anti-Hispanic? I thought he was just giving me sound career advice and recalling the good old days before Cubans arrived on these shores and elected five representatives to the US congress.

2:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I watched the video of Mcfadden and it was impressive! But then I remembered how utterly dominant Hershel was, and we all know who came out on top in that trade of 'quality over quantity'.

The Saints were NOT better off trading all their picks for Ricky either.

The key is.....Do we have the expertise to make those extra picks count? Where's JJ when you need him?

2:25 PM  
Blogger NYScott said...

No matter what Cam and Randy do it will be followed by a chorus of boo's. Pick Mcfadden;"you should have traded down you morons"! Don't pick McFadden; "You should have picked Mcfadden you morons"! That is unless the media including Mel Kiper tells everyone who Miami should pick and Miami does pick that person. Than everyone will be saying how they made the right choice because God knows Kiper has more football knowledge than any coach or GM. I cant imagine how different things would be if Cam had taken Quinn instead of Ginn. Everyone would be whacking it to Quinn posters and saying "just wait until next year, this kids going to be great because Kiper said so!" I say we trade Ronnie for a first round pick (if someone would deal it) and take Mcfadden with the first overall. Than we take the next best player with our second first rounder. But either a DE or LB. We can get a great receiver in free agency and will have plenty of money to do it with.

2:30 PM  
Anonymous Beat the Jets!! said...

CommonSense is a genius he should be the dolphins GM

-DieHard Dolphins Fan

2:31 PM  
Anonymous Germany speaking said...

Few options we could consider:

A) without any trades:

1 Pick: DT - Dorsey and build around him

2 Pick: OL - there should be good talent be there - like Otah, Richardson or Oher

3 Pick: DB - really deep this year - someone like Cason, King, Tribble, Hefney should be available.

4 Pick: GO WR or TE here - someone good must be left at this point

B) Trade down and get some more picks:

with Jets: we would get their 3rd and 4th and still get Dorsey

with Falcons: we would get their 2nd and 3rd - guys they want a QB at 3 - no need to trade up.

after No.4: they need their complete draft to trade up

So whats left: Dallas needs 3000 points to get No.1 they have two first rounder which right now looks like 1400 points, so next years no1 and they still need around 1000 points - so we talk about this years and next years No 2, too. that would make 5 picks in the first two rounds the next two years - not bad but I don't think this will happen.

The Jets will figure this out too and will know that there is no team trading with the Fins and back out the trade too and still aquire McFadden. Actually the only reason to take McFadden is that the Jets won't get him - its a good reason though.

2:55 PM  
Anonymous Steve said...

You are missing the point. Based on previous bad decisions by the front office, we need new mgmt before we can make an informed decision on the merits of picking or trading. ARE WE EVER GOING TO LEARN????

3:09 PM  
Anonymous Scalzo said...

The Phins would be foolish to pick another RB. They will have Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams next year. (if Ricky can stay clean or don't get traded) Clearly if the Phins get the number 1 overall pick then they should trade it down. What are you going to do with 3 starting caliber RB's and no OL? Even though the OL has performed better this year there ia alot of room for improvement. The Phins need more picks. Priorty should be OL, LB ( hello Zack is about finished ) and CB. I don't want this team to be like Detroit and constantly picking QB's RB's and WR's to still never get anywhere. The big men OL and DL is where it starts. A great OL can make an average QB good and a good QB great.

7:19 PM  
Blogger Yitz said...

They need to take advantage of the opportunity to find a real gamebreaker. It would make me sick if they pulled a 'Panthers'- get players who are 'solid' or 'ok' after having the first overall pick twice! You (hopefully) don't get a pick this high very often. Take advantage when you can.

7:27 PM  
Anonymous Peter LaCock said...

Am I missing something? It seems many others are. Yes we need a RB but we need 2 'bigs' a DB and a TE much more. Is this hard to understand? To say a good RB helps other players perform better is absolutely true but it's stating the obvious. EVERY position that improves helps other players perform better. Is this hard to understand? To say we need quality not quantity is only half true. We need both. Is this hard to understand? We are 0-11 aren't we?To say quality comes only at the top of the draft is ridiculous. 95% of the NFL is players that were NOT even 1st round picks let alone high 1st round picks. Is this hard to understand? To say trading down is hard is absolutely wrong. Trading down is very, very easy. Getting great value is the hard part. We just have to hope a few teams want that one guy that makes their team like a McFadden or someone else and is willing to do anything to get him. This is a team sport more than any other. No one guy is going to make Miami good. We need help everywhere which is why we need to stockpile picks and sign a good FA or two. The people that want everyone fired are being shortsighted. Mueller has only this years draft to get credit or blame for. I'd say he looks pretty good so far. You can't know yet. It isn't possible unless you can see the future. This is why he needs more time. Cam came in and saw an aging team that hadn't made the playoffs in 5 years and decided to blow it up. I think this was best although obviously hard to take for some. Remember he's a rookie too. He's made many mistakes but let's hope he's smart enough to learn and retain knowledge. This is why he needs more time. Is any of this hard to understand? The people calling for Tuna or 'the Chin' might be right but I for one want to see how this plays out before moving on to the next guy and I think those two are past their prime, I'd rather bring in someone new with fresh ideas. Also, I could care less if we go 0-16 or 1-15 or if the Pats are 16-0 or 15-1. People make too much of this. All that matters is win the Super Bowl or lose the Super Bowl. Everything else is trivial.

11:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wayne huizenga's hire of bill parcells as the gm would be a wise one.the dolphins would be back faster then you think with tuna picking the players tuna over mueller bye bye cam if i was tuna i'd hire jason garrett as the next fins head coach!

1:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why in the blue hell would you draft by need? When you draft by need you end up with "OLB from Tennessee Eddie Moore" instead of Anquan Boldin. If we DONT draft Darren McFadden i will be extremely ticked at Mueller and Cameron. Trade Ricky and JT for more picks if you need them so bad. Draft "Run DMc" and watch him put people in the seats. Look at Adrian Peterson in Minnesota they didnt really need a RB they had Chester Taylor and look how AD paid off for them. When Miami realizes the Ronnie wont be the same from his injury they'll move him to FB then they'll have Beck at QB, Ronnie at FB, Run DMc at RB, Ginn at WR and if I get my wish Bess from Hawaii as our other WR. I wouldnt mind getting a star TE through FA or the draft. Anyone know if there's any TEs having problems with their current team? Then for defense, use the rest of the draft picks, trade some for DeAngello Hall and use the rest to draft defense. Sign Terrell Suggs to play OLB after ZT retires and we move Crowder to MLB.

2:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First off Reggie Bush played for a college power-house which would explain his high numbers in college. Robert Gallery plays for freakin OAKLAND, he IS the line there. Michael Vick DID redefine the QB position, were you sleeping while he was playing? 1st player in HISTORY with 1000 yards rushing and passing in the same season. Darren McFadden plays for freakin ARKANSAS when was the last time they one a national championship? Exactly. The freaking team revolves around how good he does thats why he's the BEST player in the draft. Running backs like Darren McFadden and Adrian Peterson dont become "busts" seeing as how the whole team revolved around them when they were on the field. I hope he doesnt win the Heisman all that is is a curse. Matt Leinart, Jason White, Troy Smith.

Miami NEEDS Darren McFadden he puts points on the board.

And for the "salary cap" issue if we trade Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas retires that frees up nearly $100M over the next 7 years

3:15 AM  
Anonymous Germany speaking said...

trade szenarios are really fun to create ok they never happen like you want them to happen - just see Welker and Chambers trades.

Butt still fun to talk about them - so here are some more for you:

1) Trade Ronnie and a second to New England for their first - Take McFadden and Long (the one who will be left).

2) Trade Jason and a second to New England for their first - Take Dorsey and Long (the one who will be left). (Jason deserves a titel)

3) Trade Ronnie and a second to Oakland for their first - Take McFadden and Campbell or Ellis(the one who will be left).

4) Trade with Dallas - we then have 3 late first rounders (we already have No 32 from the Patriots)and no money invested to go after free agents.
Take either WR, OL, DL and DB with our 2nd with those picks.

The list of players available could look like this:

WR: Sweed, Doucet, Bowman, Hardy, Kelly, Manningham

OL: Cherilus, Clady, Baker, Otah, Oher, Richardson

DL: Groves, Okam, Balmer, Jackson

DB: Cason, Thomas, Tribble, King, Hefney

5) Trade our first to Atlanta for their first and Hall and maybe their 2nd. Get Hall, and which ever Long will be there.

Problem with all szenarios is that we will win our last five games and pick around 6 anyway.

GO FINS

7:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow you want 3 first rounders and atleast a 3rd? When is the last time anyone got that much for the top pick?

7:42 AM  
Anonymous Scalzo said...

Don't trade anything to New England unless they offer their whole draft period. I am tired of the phins building New England it has to end. No inner division trading!

7:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nothing against Ronnie Brown, but he is no Darren McFadden, a real playmaker that can take it the distance everytime he touches it. Oh by the way he can also be used on special teams if needed and he can also pass the ball as well. Sounds like a triple threat to me. Can you imagine an offense with Beck, Ginn, and McFadden. Since we are rebuilding, this would be a solid foundation to build on. Even if we don't win as many games, watching these guys in action would be something to look forward to and do I dare say, make any loss possibly bearable. If the Fins pass on McFadden, I think this would be a serious mistake.

Preview of NFL Draft 2008

1. Miami Dolphins- Darren McFadden-Playmaker RB(Arkansas)

Now how could you not like the sound of that!

10:24 AM  
Anonymous luis said...

LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE DARREN SHOULD BE GIVEN A CHANCE TO TURN OUR FRANCHISE AROUND.PLEASE DONT PICK A LINEMAN.AS FAR AS IM CONCERNED RONNY IS GOOD JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO WIN US 1 F----GAME.LOYALTY IN FOOTBALL IS STUPID LOOK AT THE PATS.IMAGINE IF THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN LOYAL TO THEIR NUMBER 1 PICK BLEDSOE, WAKE UP MIAMI D MAC IS THE ULTIMATE WEAPON!RONNY AT FULLBACK OR TRADE HIM FOR MORE PICKS. STICK TO THE SYSTEM WORST TEAM PICK THE BEST PLAYER. I COULDNT TAKE ANOTHER SEASON LIKE THIS. LOVE MY FINS

12:16 PM  
Anonymous Kevin said...

There is no way the Dolphins should be taking Darren McFadden.

This draft should address their long term needs as opposed to short-term issues. Why draft a Running Back with the first overall pick when Ronnie Brown will be returning, at worst by '09?

Why waste a pick on a RB when they are the easiest to find? I saw a statistic that says about 2/3 of all starting RB's in the league were drafted after the first round.

Trading down might be good (I wouldn't mind picking up Colt Brennan in the mid-late first round) but not picking up a lineman like Glenn Dorsey or Chris Long with the defense as old and porous as it is could be a huge mistake

3:36 PM  
Anonymous EdSkae said...

I would want the the two firsts & a third this year plus
LB Brady James for the number one overall pick.

4:18 PM  
Blogger Jason Odell said...

We may as well just give the Pats all our draft picks. They seem to be the only team that knows how to use the players we select.

8:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All I read is BLA, BLA, BLA..

LET'S LOOK AT THE SAD FACTS... THE STINKING TEAM THAT'S TRYING TO GO UNDEFIEATED HAS BEEN HANDED THE PLAYERS VIA OUR ONE AND ONLY DOLPHIN GM. LOOK AT THE PATS AND WHICH BIG IMPACT PLAYERS WERE ONJCE DOLPHINS.

HEY IDIOT MR. GM... THERE'S A SIMPLE RULE IN THE NFL AND IT'S CALLED DONT TRAID OR GIVE UP YOUR PLAYERS TO THE SAME TEAMS THAT YOU NEED TO PLAY TWICE EVERY YEAR FOREVER!!!!!

AGAIN, GET RID OF THE GM AND LET'S REBUILD THIS TEAM WITH SOMEONE WHO KNOWS HOW.

10:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can ANYONE say Randy Mueller!!!!

The GREATEST General ever to take a team down. Mr Mueller I believe is working for the enemy. He gave away all our tallent, or at least went along with what that piece of @^!&#$ Saben did, that maggot destroyed us.

I still say that Cam is not and never was our answer. We should be hiring a well established GM (How about Tuna???) and a well established and retired (for now) coach ... HELLO Mr. Bill Cowher!!!!!

I'm tired of these quick fixes and I'm ALSO tired of everyone bashing owner Mr. H. Mr. H wants to win and he has spent every penny he can leagely spend on this team but he also has been taking advice from the wrong people when it comes to hiring GM's and head Coaches.

Let's clean house and hope that if the fins can only win one game that it's against the Pats this season.

10:29 PM  
Anonymous greg_SF_BAY_AREA said...

get smart and get another player w/ the two first roundres, can anymone say CHRIS CANTY or MARCUS SPEARS??

That would be the only way to justify such a atrade, get a good DE adn then spend the picks on defense too, maybe you contend again

10:57 PM  
Anonymous dolfanman13 said...

It's a tough choice but you've gotta go with McFadden. The whole uncertainty at running back scares worries me. Ronnie was never a game-breaker and now that he's had a knee injury will be even less. He was a tough runner but not an explosive one (think Tomlinson or Peterson). It's tempting to trade away McFadden for a bunch of picks but what if none of those turns into a great player like he does? We'll be kicking ourselves if he has a rookie season like Adrian Peterson. No way we are even close to the playoffs next year so why not get a superstar-in-the-making at RB to complement Beck and Ginn? This isn't the deepest of drafts this year so it would be unwise to trade down for a bunch of picks. One scenario I would agree with is if another team wanted a player like Dorsey so much and they were picking no. 2 overall and wanted to swap with Miami. So Miami gets McFadden at #2 and picks up an extra 2nd rounder. Otherwise stay where you are. Miami has a good number of picks already and by trading someone like Ricky or JT they'd be able to add to that.

12:25 AM  
Anonymous dolfanman13 said...

And as far as free agency goes Miami would be STUPID to blow a lot of money on those guys. As usual most of the good ones will have a franchise tag put on them and will be untouchable. If someone like Jared Allen or D'Angelo Hall slips through the cracks and is an unrestricted free agent than go for it but otherwise they'd be wise to just stick with the draft.

12:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can we draft a new owner?

6:43 AM  
Anonymous Germany speaking said...

Maybe we should give all our Picks to the Patriots and let them do the draft.
Then wait after they cut their players after camp and pick them all up, because one thing is for sure, those players will be better than everything we would draft.

Cheers

10:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The scary part is the NE Patsies will likely have a top 5 pick (from SF) and they would love to get their hands on McFadden. I would like to see the Fins draft McFadden, then trade him to the Cowboys for their 2 No 1s and Marion Barber (insurance if Brown is not ready to go on opening day). Jerry Jones loves McFadden and would likely make that trade. The fact Dolphin fans need to realize is there are multiple holes on this team in terms of positions and depth that one draft (or one player taken #1 overall) will not fix. To fix this team, the Dolphins need draft picks, draft picks, draft picks, and they need to use them effectively.

12:56 PM  
Anonymous DRAFTMATTRYAN said...

DRAFT MATT RYAN!!!

5:08 PM  
Anonymous russell said...

We suck. And not one you armchair QB's could possibly come up with a viable solution to this tems' problems. So lets quit with all of the fantasies about Mc Fadden and trades and so on. This team never does the smart thing. No, instead we draft Jamar Fletcher in the 1st rd instead of Drew Brees. We trade our best offensive weapon mid-season. We should do the honorable thing and trade Jason Taylor andZach Thomas to a contender and let them have their chance at a ring. This thing wont turn around next year. We dont work like that, we trade for Jay Fiedler and then Jay Feeley. Instead of drafting Brady Quinn we take Teddy Ginn who I like, but he's only contributed 2 TDs this year. When Wayne makes the changes in the front office, hires a PROVEN HEAD COACH and opens up the wallet, well see a change, and if not, well then prepare yourself to be a fan of the worst team in the NFL for the next 7 to 10 years. Ive been a fan of the Dolphins my entire life and will continue to be. But this is the reality, deal with it, and above all, keep your ideas to yourself, none of you know what you're talking about. so zip it. go dolphins.

5:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need Bill Parcells to do the drafting.

7:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

cam and randy will prolly draft a punter with our #1 pick

1:21 AM  
Blogger newsamaritan said...

I would pursue Derek Anderson if the Brown's don't give him a much bigger contract, draft Glen Dorsey because we can't stop the run -or- draft down and try to get two first rounders. Either way, Beck is garbage and Ronnie might not ever be the same. We let go of Welker, passed up Quinn, and now we're a mess. That's just me.

10:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joe Toledo for president!

7:06 PM  
Anonymous Cameron's son said...

We (my daddy and his family) deserve a second chance!

12:26 PM  
Anonymous Fan's son said...

Huizenga Jr, you want to keep Cameron?

Then keep your overpriced season tickets as well.

12:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We should get more for the number one than Dallas can give us. I really like McFadden and think we ought to trade Brown for some other picks. I also like the idea of a QB if Ryan is considered a franchise type guy. Of course at the same time we need to get Cowher in here and quit messing around

3:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joe Toledo for president!

8:18 PM  
Anonymous Constantine Sucks said...

I think that Brett Guy just likes large males in spandex....

8:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys are mentally retarded if you think they should trade Jason Taylor. Regardless of his age even Bill Parcells admitted he was our best player on defense and they aren't trying to get rid of their good players, but bring more good players in. I agree that Ronnie Brown might not be back to his form that he was in during the first 6 games this season and I definately don't think John Beck is the quarter back of the future. If the dolphins could somehow sign Suggs and Samuels that would be a huge turnaround on their defense considering their defensive backs were miserable and zach thomas might be done for good. I agree with the fact that if miami got another wr like desean jackson along side ted ginn, that could be a very exciting combo to watch and possibly drafting fred davis with their second round pick from san diego would also be a great move. But the most important position that we are lacking is at Quarterback and i'm not sure how they plan to turn that around...maybe going after derek anderson...but still they should DEF NOT trade jason taylor, he is one of the best defensive ends in the whole league.

11:14 AM  

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