They've started something they still have to finish
Now that Jake Long is penciled in as Miami's starting left tackle, I wish to remind you of one small detail that threatens to be lost following today's signing: The Dolphins are still on the freakin' clock.
The job is not finished. The team still has much work to do. And with eight more selections in the draft to finish what they have started, one hopes the Dolphins can turn this draft into a boon.
I remind you the team still needs a starting guard, an inside linebacker or two would be good, a quarterback, a cornerback, a 3-4 defensive end capable of playing the run, and possibly a fullback are needs.
I also like the idea of getting a 3-4 rush linebacker because I simply don't see Jason Taylor as being long for this team whether he is traded or not.
I will write about specific players the Dolphins may be looking at in tomorrow's Herald. Feel free to leave me players you like in picks 32 through 245.
The job is not finished. The team still has much work to do. And with eight more selections in the draft to finish what they have started, one hopes the Dolphins can turn this draft into a boon.
I remind you the team still needs a starting guard, an inside linebacker or two would be good, a quarterback, a cornerback, a 3-4 defensive end capable of playing the run, and possibly a fullback are needs.
I also like the idea of getting a 3-4 rush linebacker because I simply don't see Jason Taylor as being long for this team whether he is traded or not.
I will write about specific players the Dolphins may be looking at in tomorrow's Herald. Feel free to leave me players you like in picks 32 through 245.
posted by Armando Salguero at 3:17 PM
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I hate taking an OL with the #1 overall. But hey, I'm a Phins fan. The NFL draft is the best going because impact players can always be found at any selection. Here's hoping that Bill and the Boys make get lucky with some of these selections on Saturday.
I like the pick and they can still get a good QB and D-Lineman in the Second round... We can probably move up a couple of spots to grab Chad Henne or Joe Flacco in the late first round. I'm a Die Hard Phins fan and know that the Offense starts up front, which we were weak at last year... Its still a wait and see on Beck, but he is turning, what?, 27 this year. So he is an older 2nd year QB, but is he the answer? I think so if our Defense can get back to its dominance. We just need a QB that can take care of the Football. Good Safe pick in Long, Bill. Keep up the good work. ~ Cali-Phin Fan
10 more picks? I thought we only had 9 picks to start with. And after signing Jake Long with have 8picks remaining.
Has someone e-mailed Ozzie Newsome?
I'd like to find out if he still thinks that the Dolphins wont draft Jake Long.
C. Campbell would be a great 3-4 DE....he has the size and is very good against the run. Carl Nicks would make sense...he can play guard and RT...and the more players that can be used at different positions only helps your team.
I love the pick, with Long and Carey we will have two solid tackles for a while!
As far as our other picks, I still think TE is a major need. Dallas always relied on quality tight ends and, well we have none currently. Id also like to see linebacker, guard, and cornerback get addressed.
Looking forward to your comments Mando.
I say keep attacking the lines. For the O, I like Nebraska's Carl Nicks and Appalachian States Kerry Brown. For the D, i like Trevor Laws (Notre Dame) and Georgia Techs Philip Wheeler.
Go Dolphs
McKenzie Bros
I'm glad you mentioned "starting guard" first. When we have a good OL, the rest of the offensive players will look much better, including the QB and recievers. We have two great running backs and when the line starts giving the QB time and opening holes for the RB's, all of a sudden another QB won't look so important to you all. And the receivers won't be as well covered as they have been in the past.
go with best available guard and give Henning and Maser the tools they need to do what they do best; run Ronnie run!
Joe- Margate, FL.
Mando,
I think these are some names the fins are keeping a eye on with the two 2nd rounders. These are in order.
1. Quentin Groves- DE/LB
2. Calais Campbell- 3/4 DE
3. Chad Henne - QB
4. Patrick Lee - CB
5. Dan Conner - LB
6. James Hardy - WR
7. Tracy Porter - CB
8. Duane Brown - OT
9. Kendall Langford - DE
10. Kevin Smith - RB
Those are some names that the fins are aiming at for the Second round. Of course it all depends on whos available, but those are a few names.
Mando, what you think!!!
Wow...Mando...you were right for once! Now is the time to walk tall and ignore the hundreds, if not thousands of posts calling you names.
Now, it is you who will point and laugh.
Dig it!
10 more selections to finish what they started??? I thought Miami only had 9 total selections in the draft. You have some breaking news that you need to share or was that just a typo???
What's with SunSentinel.com and ESPN.com scooping you guys on this? They were reporting it way before you. C'mon Herald, step it up!! You can do better than this!!!
I like the pick, In truth from now on I think Parcells will go defense, OL, defense. I believe that they have made up their minds to let John Beck/Josh McC have a year to see if either can cut it. If not, we will likely end up with another high draft pick, if they do then happy days (personally I think Beck will be the answer).
Additionally, I think the fins should pick the best available and not do too much trading. we need talent across the board.
WR- Anyone with a pulse
CB- Godfrey from Iowa or Pat Lee in the 4th
LB- Lofton from Oklahoma or sleeper, Beau Bell from UNLV.
Mando,
You should ask Ozzie Newsome who the Fins will pick in the 2nd round.
I like the Jake Long selection; it's been along time since we had a quality anchor on the left side. Maybe this draft will be a renaissance to more successful drafts of years past where we can get a Left Tackle and a Left Guard combo ala the Richmond Webb/Keith Simms days! I would like to see the Dolphins have the opportunity to pick-up QB Chad Henne from Michigan with the 32nd pick and grab CB Antoine Cason from Arizona later in the 2nd round. With the first pick in the third round maybe the Dolphins can find someone like LB Tavares Gooden from Miami or LB/DE Quentin Groves from Auburn. Hopefully the Fins will be looking at guard in the 4th round like Roy Schuening from Oregon State. After that it’s hard for a fan to project what may happen between picks 101 and 195 so the sixth and seventh rounds should be very interesting. I’m just glad to see this franchise taking steps to rebuild what is left of this team after years of cap mismanagement and poor player personnel decisions.
Hey Mando Love You Man but your wrong on the 10 more picks thing we only have as of now 9 picks and we are using one on Long so there is only 8 left unless you know something we don't
Mark my words you will rue this day. I would have taken that 2nd string special teams player from Wichita State with the first overal pick. Trust me - I know his family and you are going to be wowed by that young man when he plays against you.
Id consider Jenne/Flacco for their first 2nd rounder and a CB with the 2nd. BUT If Dan Conner is available at 32...nab him and get a QB 2nd
I misread my own chart. It is eight more picks. Please forgive me.
Armando, Are you still convinced that the Fins are drafting defense because of Jeff Ireland's Freudian slip???
Armando,
If you get a chance to interview Jake Long, I'd love to hear him address the rumors last week that he did not have an interest in playing for Miami.
Great pick, quality player now we can forget about left tackle for the next 6 years, now the second round...Chad henne great QB 4 years as a starter in a big program plus Long nows him like no other player, sorry beck 27 still learning the game...go fins!!!
I think the priority for rounds 2-3 must continue to be on offense.
First priority is at QB: they simply cannot afford to put all their eggs in Beck's basket. It would be a total disaster if Beck's loses the job to McCown; they need another young QB to come in and compete. First pick in Round 2 would be a great spot.
Second priority is OG, though they may have to wait until a later round given the thin talent pool there. Best player on the board might be the way to go with their second 2nd round pick.
Mando,
Reports say 5 years 57 million with 30 million guaranteed. Dollar wise it is less than Jamarcus, but per year,if reportsd are correct then paying more... Do you have any 411 on the contract and your opinion on it...
Hey where's the trio that was fighting with anyone who disagreed with their assesment on the Ireland "slip up"? How about that, he actually just made a mistake. Or he said that to make Condon second guess the direction the Phins were going. Who would have thunk it? "His face turned red, that's how we know he messed up". Pffffft. I said it a long time ago Jake Long is the safe pick and I can't wait to see him smashing some people into the ground. Welcome aboard Jake! NYScott
I think the phins will do some trades to get some extra picks and I think/hope they trade Taylor.(a 2nd and a 5th) I think we need to take a linebacker like Mayo at 32. A nose tackle like Red Bryant with a 2nd and a receiver like Jordy Nelson or a tight end like Bennett.(only draft receivers that are great blockers) The #64 spot we drop down a bit say 6 or 7 spots and add a 6th pick. wth the 3rd round pick we grab the best offensive guard( could be a tackle that fits better as a guard) available. Take what ever our next greatest need is that we did not get yet. Possibly a quarterback such as O'Connell,Johnson, Morris, or Morelli.
In the 5th you pick up another lineman perhaps Giacomini or Rinehart as we need to get 4 lineman OL in the draft.The three 6th(trades) and 2 7th roundes are the best available talents at any of the positions. Receiver, linebacker, safety, etc.
I have to agree, Chad Henne seems a lock now at no 33 with his fellow wolverine on board, I personally feel Beck will have way more protection now and should deliver but Henne is a great fallback if not. As for the rest CB or TE for the next pick. Roll on saturday!
I totally agree with JC.
TE TE TE TE TE TE TE TE TE TE TE TE
And according to Parcells past, he'll be looking.
WHAT ABOUT MANNINGHAM IF HE SLIDES TO US WITH THE 32ND PICK WOULD THAT BE MORE ATTRACTIVE TO GET A BIG PLAY RECEIVER THEN PRAY HENNE WILL BE THERE WITH OUR 2ND PICK IN ROUND 2 AND WE HAVE THE MIAMI WOLVERINES???
CRIS@PA
short list of possible picks:
TE Maratellus Bennett (size, athletic)
LB Cliff Avril (rush LB)
LB Dan Conner (football smarts)
CB Antonine Cason (experience)
OG Roy Schuening(tough, experience)
WR William Franklin (fast, strong)
In a conversation a few weeks ago, I said if Miami takes Jake over Chris Long or Gholston, I will come here and say I was wrong.
Since I am a man of my word, contrary to what one weasel thought because I use anonymous instead of signing up for a regular name... I was wrong.
Manningham? And I thought Cameron was and idiot for taking Ginn. Come on Chris@PA. Its either Henne or a CB with the 32nd.
Mando you forgot add WIDE RECEIVER to the list of needs!
Even tho I beleive in Jonh Beck and I think Beck will be a solid QB in the NFL. The fins are still going to draft a QB. They only have 2 players right now at that position. So with that said, I think now that the fins have Jake Long he will be reunited with Chad Henne.
I think Chad Henne will get picked by Miami with the second pick of the two 2nd rounders they have. Remember Ron Wolf is a believer that you draft a QB every year till you get it right, and bill and Ron are real close.
NEXT PICK: 2nd - QUENTIN GROVES DE/LB.
2nd (2) CHAD HENNE QB
2a.ILB like connors or lofton
2b. best available TE
3 best available RB hope for Kevin Smith to be available
4 best available OL
Now that the Offensive line is almost intact,Miami should seriously consider selecting a good shutdown CB with the 1st pick in the 2nd round.Apart from Will Allen,we dont have alot of options.If the Dolphins are to pick a QB,i would prefer it to be in round 5-7,cus i really think Beck can get the job done.TE is a must but i'd be dissapointed if they were to pick one in the 2nd round.I'd like to see Miami pick a WR with our 2nd pick in the 2nd round.
mando you rock.
Hi Armando,
I was just wondering that if there's any possibility that this signing is just a smokescreen and that there's a possibility that the Dolphins could trade Long on draft day to another team for more picks?
Armando do you think CB ikeguanu out of wisconsin could be a possibility. He's first round talent that we can get in later rounds now that he tore his ACL. Or would that be to big of a risk
Mando,
Thses are all potential sleepers that could drop to Miami!!!
1. Eddie Royal- WR
2. Jermicheal Finley - TE
3. Carl Nicks -OT
4. Sam Baker - OT
6. Patrick Sims -DT
7. Jack Ikegwuonu CB (INJURED), BUT SO WAS PATRICK SURTAIN WHEN HE GOT DRAFTED. (HOW DID THAT WORK OUT).
I think the fins have various different ways there can go with the draft, but I feel they want to give John Beck as much help as possible. So look for a heavy dose of offence starting with the second 2nd round pick (Henne) and forward.
Go fins!!!!!!!!!
Here is my opinion: If we can get a good LB or defensive back with the 2nd round selection I think we should jump on that, and then snatch up a LG with San Diegos 2nd pick. With the 3rd rnd pick I like Kevin Smith or 3-4 DE/LB. But if there are guards available I think we should definitely take one with one of the 2nd round picks, then sure up the defense with the other 2nd round picks/3rd/4th.
With the 32nd pick Chad Henne!
MANDO, THE 6:20PM (ANONYMOUS) BLOGGER IS A STRIGHT UP FOOL. Yo fool theres more of a chance of you being the 2nd pick of the draft, then JAKE LONG BEING TRADED ON DRAFT DAY!!! The fins had a press conference yo dope!!!!
Am telling for the most part, there some people here who get it. But some are flat out dumb!!
Mando send a virus or something to this dudes computer!!!
Can't we celebrate for a day? Let's all have visions of Ronnie/Ricky/Lorenzo running wild deep into the secondaires of our opponents and beyond. Give Jake some play action to help out with the speed rushers or better yet, run right at em.
The Miami Dolphins are busy. While they were working to finalize a five-year contract with first-round draft pick Jake Long, they were operating behind the scenes to strike a deal for defensive end Jason Taylor.
Two clubs whom the Dolphins contacted confirmed Tuesday that Miami is shopping Taylor, looking for a mid-to-low first-round draft pick in return.
Miami would like a first-round pick for 33-year-old defensive end Jason Taylor. (Getty Images)
While that's not surprising it does contradict statements made by team vice president of football operations Bill Parcells, who insisted last month that Taylor would not be dealt.
"The only way Jason Taylor doesn't play for the Dolphins in 2008," Parcells said last month, "is if he retires. The team is not going to trade him."
And maybe that's true. But Miami is reaching out to others to gauge interest in the 2006 NFL Defensive Player of the Year. According to someone close to the situation, that's consistent with Parcells' approach to building football teams.
"I think now that they have Long, Bill is looking for that big pass rusher," he said.
Getting into the second half of the first round would mean looking at defensive linemen like Calais Campbell, Kentwan Balmer, Phillip Merling and Lawrence Jackson. The Dolphins could have a shot at some of those players by doing nothing and taking their chances with the first pick of the second round, but scouts indicated the club may have interest in Michigan quarterback Chad Henne, too.
That has sent the Dolphins looking for more draft picks, with Taylor the bait.
"We're not interested," said one club's GM. "What, we're going to give up a first-round draft pick for someone who turns 34 this year? I don't think so."
One of the two teams to whom we spoke indicated it might have interest if the Dolphins were to lower their demands, but a source close to the club said it would surrender nothing higher than a third-round draft choice.
That jibes with what several coaches and general managers at the owners' winter meetings said they would offer for Taylor -- but it's far less than what Miami is seeking in return.
SI.COM IS REPORTING THIS!!!! LOOK FOR ALOT OF NOISE ON DRAFT DAY, BY PARCELLS AND COMPANY!!
Last year's incompetence of head coach made the dolphis appear far worse than they really were.
As bad as the offensive line was the had a good ground game. As bad as the offense was they were in a lot of games.
The NFL is setup in such a way that 4-7 games won is a given with a variance of +-2 games.
A couple of players here and there and you have a competitive team.
As far as personel goes, The only person that can change a team from one year to the other, is the head coach. Shula, Schottenheimer, Walsh, Parcells, Johnson, Cower, etc,etc,etc.
Sparano is an unknown quantity and as such may be a future hall of fame or a future Hall of Came(ron)
If the dolphins win it will be because of the coaching staff.
Armando,
Why telling everybody about the deal so early and give the Rams to do the same?
The only think that can explain this is that they will try to trade Long (signed) and get a good value for him before the draft, other way will be really weird.
Manuel
Trade up to ~17-18 and take Brian Albert. Finish the OL
Why is everyone in love with Chad Henne? He had a good Capital One game. The rest of the season was a wash. So he was injured? Dorsey was injured all year and was still a force. I say middle linebacker or cornerback. Lehan and Goodman are decent backups, but shouldn't be on the field, unless someone is hurt. Crowder can't speak English...
That is a great to hear. A big bull on the o line. Instead of running backwards we have a guy that actually helps our backs run into the secondary.
Now we need a mean ass d lineman, a tight end and a couple of tough corners. When we go from tackling to hitting we win.
Kevin in Halifax
mark my words....Josh and John will do a good job at QB for the phins this year. We do not need to draft a qb this year. If we suck, we will get a high pick next year to address the QB situation. If Anderson from Cleveland has another good year, Quinn will be available for a trade next year. There is no advantage on stretching for a qb in the first two rounds. If this was a normal draft class, the second tier guys in this years qb class would be third rounders and lower. Since there is no qb in reach (brohm and flacco will be gone) draft the best player available. either lb or cb or interior dl. I think it's safe to say that Miami will be a top 10 pick in next years draft, so wait and see what is available. I am telling you, the QB position will not be our problem this year! Mckown is a very decent QB, who has never had a real shot. He has a cannon of an arm and will be a very admirable fill in if Beck doesnt work out!
Johnny Jets Hater
3-4DE or LB with 32nd, Guard next. After that best players available at needs into the 4th. 6th & 7th rounds best available at any position including QB(or grab an RFA QB to fill the roster out).
No need to draft a QB high. It's a rebuilding year, so let Beck and McCown see if they can get it done. If they can't there may be a stud QB to draft in '09, or get one of the FA QB's that should be available next year. Either Quinn or Anderson should be on the block next year in Cleveland, McNabb or Kolb in Philly, or one of the Bucs fleet of QB's
There is something I've been waiting to see and that is if you give the quarterback (Beck) an extra two seconds, there is no one that can keep up with Ted Ginn Jr. Now You'll see why Cam made him number one.
So all the talk about how bad Ireland messed up is being ignored now? ESPN was making fun of the fins and Mando wrote a blog about how we are all sick of being the butt of jokes. Not one person will stand up and say that they were wrong? So did he say "pillar of defense" to get the asking price for Jake to come down a bit? I can't believe all the jackasses that were so quick to rip Jeff a new one are silent now. I'm not naming names but you all know who you are, have the nuts to admit it. NYScott
Fascinating commentary, Armando. File it under the No Sh** Sherlock category.
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Oh, PFT also mentions this point - the 'fins thanked ben droga before ton condon at the opening of the presser... but droga is Gholsten's agent. Weird? Maybe Droga let the 'fins and Condon know that Gholsten would sign a similar deal to what J. Long signed, forcing Jake to take the offer (actually forcing Jake's agent to accept - that prick).
I like the Long pick.
2nd Round
Curtis Lofton - LB(OKL)
Kenny Phillips
CB Antoine Cason(UA) or Brandon Flowers(VT)
Later 2nd
Sam Baker - OG(USC)
Jordy Nelson - WR(KSU)
Early Doucett(LSU) or Harry Douglas(LOU)
Late rounds
LB - Ali Highsmith(LSU)
QB - Dennis Dixon (ORE)
NYScott,
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!!!! STARING WITH (RON IN CHARLOTTE) and otherS, they were all over Jeff Ireland. Now NY SCOTT if you look at this blog, you dont see him no where!!! He looked real dumb, cause right after Ireland finished the press conference, he was the FIRST person to write a blog and saying, Ireland messed up and that the fins were picking chris Long. Then he changed it minutes after and said Gholston was his pick. Then once he heard that the negotiations with Jake Long were geting serious he busted out with, and I quote " FOR THE RECORD" AM OK WITH JAKE LONG its a solid pick AHAHAHA. THATS WHY I BLASTED HIM ON THE PRIOR BLOG MANDO WROTE FOR BEING SUCH A FRAUD. GO CHECK IT OUT, YOU WILL LOLOLOL.
GO FINS!!!!!!!!!
Love this pick, though I would have liked Chris. The O line will be solid this year. As for the rest of the draft I think that our next pick should be used to give Beck another play maker on offense a WR or TE would be nice if not go DE LB. Jeff Ireland also said the Dolphins are exploring options to move back into the first round. So it will be interesting to see what happens on Sat. Besides the first pick I have no opinion on who they take. Parcelles and Ireland will work their magic and find us a couple of gems so I trust them.
Okay, so now that Jake Long is signed.....is there a rule that they cannot excercise the #1 pick on another player (Chris Long maybe??), and say use their final pick on Jake Long??? This could happen, right? Then the draft as we know it would disintegrate right before our very eyes. I don't know for a fact if this is even possible, but that is what popped into my head when I saw that we already signed Jake Long.
The Difference between the Dolphins O Line and D Line is that free agency plugged up the biggest need at NT, at least for the short term. We were not able to plug all the holes on the O Line. I would love a great DT (Balmer or Simms) or DE (Calais Campbell) but we have serviceable guys now. They would need to be great value at that point in time. Otherwise, I would rather get a road grating OG in 2nd round to return line to prominance like what Webb and Sims did when they were drafted 1 and 2. If not, TE is an area that has always been important in Tuna led offenses, but there has been not mention so far. To me this means, TE Keller.
perfect pick! this deal solidified a position that has been a problem since Richmond Webb retired. aggressive in the way the fins went out and made it happen. shows that this franchise is run by winners. we can only hope that it permeates throughout the rest of the team.really liked the way Long sounded like he has a brain to go with that massive body that by the way will still get a little bigger.now maybe whatever qb we start will have more than 2 seconds to throw the ball. i can hear the announcer say " even with the blitz coming the qb had all day to throw the ball"
I like the fact we're starting with the o-line. Thats where it all starts.You have to dominate up front. Something we've had trouble with for so long. Hopefully we can get a guard to go with Long. Than I think we'll have an awesome o-line. But we still need a QB,a couple WR's, DE,LB to replace Zack and a CB or S. (Lets get at least 6 wins this year). LETS GO PHINS!!!
The Dolphins need a playmaker at TE...hopefully they go for Dustin Keller if hes available somewhere in the 2nd
armando is just another greddy hispanic. he is narrow minded and mr. obvious with these posts. go back to mexicana and cover mexican photobull
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I FOUND SEVERAL REPORTS WHEN DOING A NEWS SEARCH FOR THE DOLPHINS TODAY ABOUT A HANDFUL OF TEAMS FRONT OFFICES CONFIRMING THAT THEY HAVE RECIEVED CALLS FROM MIAMI DOLPHINS "SHOPPING" JASON TAYLOR (SAD, I KNOW!). THE DOLPHINS WANT A LATE 1ST ROUNDER OR VERY EARLY 2ND ROUNDER AT THE LEAST AND THE MOST ALL THE TEAMS INVOLVED ARE OFFERING IS A MID TO LOW 3RD ROUNDER, TRYING TO SEE IF THE DOLPHINS BITE.
I THINK THE 2ND PICK FOR THE DOLPHINS IS DEFINATELY GOING TO BE A PASS RUSHER, PROBABLY QUENTIN GROVES OR LAWRENCE JACKSON. IF THE GIANTS FOR SOME DUMB REASON PASS ON KENNY PHILLIPS AT 31 THEN WE SHOULD JUMP ON HIM, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME A SAFETY FROM THE HURRICANES WASN'T A PRO-BOWLER?THE LATE 2ND PICK SHOULD BE TARVARES GOODEN (LB)OR BRANDON FLOWERS AT CORNER. WITH THE 3RD PICK WE NEED OUR JASON WHITTEN AT TE GO WITH DUSTIN KELLER.
BIGGEST NEEDS IN THE DRAFT WITH THE REST OF THE PICKS:
1. OUTSIDE PASS RUSHER
2. CORNERBACK (ANY DB THATS A BALLHAWK)
3. TIGHT END
4. SLOT RECEIVER (EDDIE ROYAL?)
5. GUARD
6. ILB
SONNY CROCKETT
Hey armando,
So do you know if there are any insentives included in the deal? Like he will start or compete for the LT position... Or is that just a given.. Did anyone in the dolphin organization mention anything about where he will play next year?
btw... i'm willing to put money on it if dustin keller is left on the draft board for our second pick we will take him... just my opinion
Now that the dolphins secured the LT position (even though i was leaning toward Gholston #1 due to Taylor's situation) here are some player i look at in the Day 1:
2nd #32:
CB Antoine Cason
The most complete NFL ready CB in the draft!
LB Dan Connor - Heir to Thomas' throne?
LB Curtis Lofton - Not your typical one year wonder?
DE Calais Campbell - 3/4 DE
WR Mario Manningham - Athletic
WR Malcolm Kelly - Physical
2nd #57:
TE Martellus Bennett - Completeness
TE John Carlson - Size
WR Early Doucet - Toughness
OL Sam Baker - Experience
3rd #64:
WR Jordy Nelson - Underestimated
OG Roy Schuening - Experience
Surprise picks:
OG Chilo Rachal - potential
TE Brad Cottam - talented giant
DT DeMario Pressley - Youthful talent
AND OF COURSE DRAFT DENNIS DIXON SOMEWHERE IN DAY 2 YOU CANT GO WRONG THE HEISMAN CANINDATE CAN PLAY either QB or WR
PARCELLS for President
- Gabriel the D-town phins fan
My friend and fan: To both of you on here I wish to thank you for not posting commentary that includes profanity. I remind the rest of the 9,000 or so folks who were on here today (by Herald count) that I will delete every post that includes profanity even when it is in the context of defending me.
As to the guy who called me a greddy hispanic: Is that supposed to hurt my feelings when I don't even know what greddy is?
You got it bud
For the second pick, Antoine Cason (CB) would make sense. I'd love to see Gosder Cherilus if we could move up and take care of the O-line once and for all (Carey would move back to OG in that scenario).
Calais Campbell would also make perfect sense at 32.
TE is still a major need IMO; they could take John Carlson fairly early or someone like Derek Fine (team captain twice at Kansas) late.
For QB, I'd love to see the team take Andre Woodson anytime from the third round on. He's the most undervalued prospect right now IMO.
Also, NT Athya Rubin would be a nice fit in the third.
Your right, he did misspell GREEDY.
Good eye Mando.
Keep up the good work and I'll watch my mouth next time you get a racist comment.
Im excited bout this......Jake Long should anchor a good line with Carey and Satele for many years...if this Smiley guy is good then even better, we cant blame a bad o-line for poor QB play in the future now.No excuses for Beck, time to man up homie and lead this team. We now need to get a good TE ! Q GROOVES-C CAMPBELL-B FLOWERS-TALIB-GRECO-RACHAL-BOOTY BOOTY BOOTY ! LOL
has anyone considered the though of miami possibly using taylor as leverage to move our first 2nd pick up into the first round by using taylor or whatever???? just a thought, if theres a player that miami would really like to have, but may be drafted a little earlier then the first pick of the 2nd round. Kind of like what cleveland did last year...
Version 1:
2a) TE - D.Keller
2b) ILB - T.Gooden
3) OL - Pollak / Schuening / Rachal
4) CB A.Moulden / P.Lee
or QB J.Johnson / C.Brennan
Version 2:
2a) DE/OLB - Jackson, Groves, Campbell, Mayo, Connor, Lofton
2b) OL - Nicks, Collins, Pollak
3) TE - Carlson, Cottam
4) CB A.Moulden / P.Lee
or QB J.Johnson / C.Brennan
I think we still need playmakers on offense, I like the prospect of Jordy Nelson, from what I have seen, kinda reminds me of Wes Welker. I think every-one would agree that we need another Wes Welker, if not then go and pull for New England. I was hoping that we would take Chris Long just so Tom Brady would have to worry about JT and Long putting hi on his a$$, but at the same time, we need QB protection, now Beck can show his true potential. ( I hope)
Ozzie Newsome really called this one wrong!!!
I love the pick!
10+ years of solid production at the most important spot on the O-line.
As for pick #32 - this is a tough call.
Option #1 - QB, Chad Henne
Option #2 - DL/LB (best available)
We only have two QB's on the roster and you need three, so adding Henne will make this a real fight in training camp.
But....we need a big-play, pass rushing stud to put fear in opposing QB's mind.
Bottom line...."In Tuna We Trust"
DE merling or ILB conner
CB best available
there are some good picks at 32 no need to trade up!
No QB needed in the draft until 208
we can pick up Dixon as a project and if he's healthy he can be great
WE need a QB desperately!!John Beck sucks.What good is it to have a giant offensive line when we have a midget with a popgun arm at QB who wont be able to see the defense.
DAN CONNOR DAN CONNOR DAN CONNOR.
Armando,
Looking forward to your thoughts on the rest of the draft!
I think the buzz around trading Jason Taylor makes sense if they can get a decent pick but I doubt it will be a first round selection.
I think if they pick a QB it will be a sleeper in a later round that they can develop. The guard selection will also not be in the second round.
That leaves DE, linebacker, and CB.
Unless someone drops from the first round that they really like at DE or corner, they will focus on the linebacker position where they have greater needs. I also believe there should be more talent available at the LB position when they make their second round pick.
Keep up the good work!
An inside linebacker or two and a 3-4 end capable of playing the run?
Well first of all, we definitely don't need TWO ILBs since Crowder is definitely one. One is understandable even with Torbor penciled in, but saying we could use two isn't really right.
And as for 3-4 ends, we already have two starters in Holliday and Starks, plus someone like Rod Wright who is a prototypical 3-4 end.
Honestly if I was the phins here the possible players that fall to number 32
1.Brandon Flowers
2.Kenny Phillips
3.Calias Campbell
4.Dan Connor
I promise you one of thise four will be avilable at 32. with the
57th pick I would take Fred Davis. or maybe Gooden from UM if he is avilable. Dont waste another pick on a qb
shot in the dark but with one of our 6th or 7 th pick I would defentely look into the following Dennis Dixon, Colt Brennan, and Kyle Wright. It sound crazy I am not saying these guys are the next Manning but three qaulity qbs to have on your roster.
Too bad your mancrush on McFadden didn't work out. Also, you need to do a little research before you open your mouth, OL IS the second highest paid position in the NFL.
What a worthless reporter.
Take Dan Conner and insert him in the Zach Thomas role for the next 8 to 10 years. He has the same football smarts and style of play.
I think Chad Henne is a choice or possibly the db Flowers would satisfy me, as long as they dont pick anymore ted gin jr's, then we should have a solid draft.
with the draft coming up you have t figure in several factors...If the redskins decide to over pay for Jason taylor and give us #21 I say we gotta look the best available OL and find a right tackle and sure up the line but if that doesn't happen I say at #32 take TE from Purdue Dustin Keller...At #57 take Quentin Groves from Auburn and ain the #rd and Fourth rounds take Jeremy Zuttah guard from Rutgers and John David Booty...I'm not sold on Chad Henne and I think Manningham is the best reciever in the draft
-Keller could very well go to Seattle at 25.
-Groves has NO shot of lasting until 57. He might be there are 32 and he easily could go before.
-Henne is easily a better prospect than Manningham at this point. The fact that you think Manningham's slow retarded ass is the best prospect at his position leads me to believe you've been toking up with Mario himself.
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