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Wednesday, November 14, 2007

Dolphins should get as much out of Ricky as possible

Thinking about this long and hard, I have come to the conclusion that Ricky Williams is better than Samkon Gado.

You know Gado, right? He's the guy the Dolphins signed two weeks ago to be a backup to Patrick Cobbs, who is the backup to Jesse Chatman, who is the backup to Ronnie Brown.

So looking at this situation, it matters not one iota to me that Ricky has had a troubled past with the Dolphins. It matters to me not one shred that he is a little flaky or that some fans and players had their feelings hurt when he let the team down, not once, but twice.

Forget all that emotional baggage. All that matters to me is he is a commodity to the Dolphins and around the NFL.

So the Dolphins should look at his return coldly, dispassionately and make an assessment of the guy as a football player. And as a football player, they should put him to the best possible use.

That means they should allow him to bring the level of talent in the locker room up a significant notch. They should put him in the best possible position to succeed. And they should let him get after the teams on Miami's schedule starting with the Nov. 26 game at Pittsburgh when his reinstatement says he can finally play.

Why, you ask? Aren't the Dolphins simply better to walk away from the guy who has broken their hearts several times in the past?

I don't think so. Williams can bring something to the team now. Maybe that's a couple of good games out of him this season. Maybe that's a draft pick in the offseason. Whatever it is, the Dolphins owe it to themselves and their fans to milk Ricky for everything he's got to offer.

In this case, pride and the moral high ground (whatever that is) needs to take a back seat to pragmatism.

Cam Cameron, who will make a call on Ricky after talking to him today, might not be inclined to embrace Ricky as Nick Saban did. He certainly has not sounded enthusiastic about Ricky to this point. But he owes his football team the professionalism to make a sound football decision regardless of any personal feelings he may have.

Finally, let me leave you with what I believe is the most compelling reason to welcome Ricky back now and let him play a lot if he's in shape to do so.

Jesse Chatman is unsigned and a free agent after this season. The more opportunities the Dolphins give him to succeed the remainder of this season, the more he likely will attract attention. And that means the more money he will ask, and likely get, in free agency. Why should the Dolphins showcase Chatman, possibly so another team can fall in love with him and snatch him away?

Instead, the Dolphins should showcase Ricky. Letting Ricky and Chatman share snaps would limit Chatman's numbers while increasing Ricky's numbers. Then in the offseason, Miami can either keep Ricky with the idea that he is still valuable. Or they can trade him, perhaps for a higher pick, after letting the rest of the NFL see he's a still a pretty good player.

It may sound cold, but so what? It's smart decision-making. And that's how the Dolphins should approach this emotional situation.

111 Comments:

Anonymous guitariff said...

wow mando, three blogs in one day! your really on top of things today. but i totally agree, even though i was totally against letting him back on the team at first. but even after getting burned so many times, we have to salvage something from ricky, even if it's just a second day pick.

11:35 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

Never thought of it like that. Decreasing Chatman's #'s and showcasing Ricky at the same time....Interesting scenario. I'm not 100% sold on Ricky, and I REALLY don't think Cam is either. As I stated in another post though, and as you've stated, I do feel he in more valuable to us playing than not. (Assuming he's still able to play well) He'll at a minimum get us through the rest of the year.

11:35 PM  
Anonymous Jamal said...

Carried over from the last chat:
Hey Guitariff,
The army is comprised of poor people. The United States keeps the poor class so impoverished that they have no choice to but to join the army.
Ever wonder why there are so many black people in the army? It is because the government keeps black people poor.
What else does the government do to the poor class, besides keeping them poor? It keeps them ignorant.
That is why you and Marc come off so harsh. You can't reason, so you spit swear words at people.
I have to say, I feel for you. I really do. It is a shame that the government has treated you, and so many, so poorly.

11:46 PM  
Anonymous guitariff said...

well i am not in the army, i'm in the navy, but anyway i digress. i joined the navy after 911, to defend freedom, not because i was poor! any person no matter what color or nationality can become any thing they want. that is the beauty of this country. what facts do you have that support that only poor people join the army? that sounds more ignorant than spewing swear words!

11:55 PM  
Anonymous save_us.x29 said...

As much as I didn't want too see Ricky back on this football team. The fact of the matter is, that since he is back, the team might as well play him. Ricky's value at this point is pretty much nada. If he plays well, perhaps you could get a seventh or sixth round pick for him. Ricky's tenure with the Dolphins has been one giant headache after another and I can't blame Coach Cameron for wanting no part of this guy.

This team has a lot of needs though, and every draft pick helps. If you can get something for Ricky, do it. With Chatman playing the way that he is, I feel more comfortable with him as the backup to Ronnie. Especially if Ronnie is not ready to go by the beginning of next season. Keeping Chatman is imperative. So, in a strange way, I hope Ricky gets more carries than Chatman, and comes out firing on all cylinders. The better he runs, the higher his value is.

I'm tired of seeing Ricky Williams in a Dolphins uniform, and hopefully this will be the last time we see Ricky suit up for the Dolphins. This saga has gone on long enough. Keep in mind, the guy who suckered Dave Wannstedt into giving up two first rounders for Ricky, is the same guy running the front office in Miami right now. Randy Mueller. If anybody knows how to get max value for that pothead, it's Randy Mueller.

11:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

guitariff..
i'm with jamal, while the army is not just made up of poor people, it is the vast majority. the army is the only choice for a lot of inner city blacks. jobs are few and far between and most of the ones availible are part time minimum wage jobs. it may be tough in the armed sevices during war, but at least you somewhat know where the danger is. go to the projects in a major city. bagdhad looks about the same. this is a bad time to be poor or even middle class in the country. government should be called corperation. because this current gov favors big business like never before. mergerss go unchecked, the radio and newspaper business is pretty much owned by 2 companies. oil companiess merge. we have ann antitrust act that should stop this but it's NEVER enforced. companies move their headquarterss overseas to avoid payinng taxxess but profit onn the blood and tears of workinng people. whhile our volunteer army fights for their country their family live with little money. we spend billions paying blackwater, who don't have to follow the same rules. they tourcher and kill without consequence. the have the best weapons and armor, piad for with gov. contracts while our real soilders have old equipment. blackwater is lead by a zealot. a rightwing evangelical.. grrrr. why do the unthinking and uncaring get the best soundinng names?? i'm left wing, liberal, because i believe the gov is there to take care of it's citizens. that tax dollars should be use for the poor to help them succeed and give them a leg up. because i want healthcare for everyone. because i don't think war is ever a great option. i'm truly embarrassed by what this government has done to my country. how kids are sent to fight a war that never should have been, children who have no health insurance. oil companies that are allowed to price fix with no concequene. when was the last time you sat more than a 110 cent diffeerence at gas stations? these companiess make billions in profit. drug compaanies making billionns, media outlets being conntrolled by 2 companies, one that has soooo many conficts of innterest. an education system that is underfunded, that has so many unfunded mandates that it is dying. no child left behid leaves many kids far behind. we;'ve been so dumbed down it's sickening. i toughht in a puublic school for 20 yyears. i'm lucky to get out alive. it's thankless, it's low paying. teachers are held accountable for thinngs parennts should be doing. i feel for any family with a child who has a learning disability or is adhd our just plainn mentaly disturbed. but the worst thing to ever happen to schools is full inclusion. people think teachers hhave it easy. anyone who thinks that, go try to do it.. try to teach a trig. class to 30 student, 5 who are learninng disabled, 3 who have no self-control. the average and advanced students suffer. i'm sure you're thimking they don't puts kids likee that in advanced classes. if you're a small school tryinng to fill schedules it happens all the time. it's disgusting...whehhh!

ok that's out of my system for 8 hours of sleeep.

go beck go ginn, go ricky!!

sorry for the typoss but i was on a rant ad i'm not correcting anything...lol

jaison biagini pittsburgh, pa

1:45 AM  
Anonymous guitariff said...

jaison, while i respect your opinion, i have to disagree. the children that are went to fight in this war, signed up on their own freewill. they had a choice, reguardless of their reasons, they chose to fight this fight. while you can disagree with this it is the truth. and i am on the right side of the spectrum because i beleive it is up to you to provide your future. why do i have to pay taxes to take care of you because i have more money or vis versa? but in any event this is a football blog not a political one, so i will end the argument at that. let's all agree to disagree huh?
p.s. good luck on sunday john, you're gonna need it!

2:23 AM  
Anonymous guitariff said...

sorry, i meant "are fighting," that just made no sense when i reread it.

2:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

guitarff...
i'm not getting any kid of assistance, i'm just saying i'd prefer my tax dollars help the less fortunate citizens in this county. not go to kill people in other countries. you are onnly on the right politically, you're not right that's just what conservatives call themselves. but this current are are anything but conservative. for you to think the poor have a lot of choices you should leave the ivory tower every once in a while.

i believe we should have a conservative government, in accordance with the constitution. we should defend our country from attack but never go to war unprovoked with a soveriegn nation. we should not pay a private army to carry out illegal acts. anything this government does is done wrong. i don't want to hear politions cater to religious groups. i dont want to put things in gods hands. you are living the the 50's if you still thinnk this is the land of opportunity. i can't believe you actually think you can do anything regardless of color or economic upbringing. for evvery barrack obama there are a million blacks that caann't get work no matter how hard the try. there is no room in this counrty for the little guy. walmart... exxon/mobile....AT&T... clearchannel...tiketmaster. i could go on and on. corperations smash the little guy.


until this country changes you can't get ahead. if were in charge... i would abolish the IRS and replace this tax code with a very simple consuption tax. put a federal tax on everything you purchase. that would eleminate the uderground economy. if you're poor you pay less, if you're rich you pay more, because you consume more. i would break several companies up, many thee communication ccompanies, oil companies. the antitrust laws have been ignored. i would eliminate half the government, so many useless and redundant offices. i would geet out of iraq and worry about securinng ouur country. no subsidies for any corp using outside labor. yoou put jobs in india you get no tax breaks or shelters. eliminate the space program. other than putting satelites up so i can get sunday ticket i could care less about spendinng billions to see mars. i'd invest all this money into medical, evviornmental, and energy research. i'd revamp the educational system. some children aren't cut outt the be doctors and sceintists. after 8th grade kids would get some choices, some would persue higher education, some would go into trades schools, other would be taaught life skills. sorry to parent of "special" students but they need to learn how to live independently, not algebra and chemestry. and never would the idea of intelligent design be taught in a public school, and neveer wouuld public dollars be sent to priivvate schools. common sense needs to be the first factor in every decision!!!

speaking of commonn sense, finally starting john beck makess since. keeping ricky makes sence, he's still under that crappy contract where he gets paidd nothinng. keep himm ttilll you get a good trade offer. i hope we only win games if we can keep the number 1 pick. till the rams and jets in again we nneeed tp keep our 0.

jaison

3:44 AM  
Anonymous Eugene Debs said...

The fatal flaw of capitalism, which is so widely accepted in the United States, is that people should be able to have as much money as they can gather. The United States claims that it is freedom, but it is only the freedom to oppress others. It is justification for possessing all the wealth that the rulers of this country have. No one should have the freedom to impoverish others, and by allowing people to have as much money as they can attain, the end result is that people will be in poverty because of this. Nobody should be allowed to have a billion dollars, while others are homeless.
Ronald Regan made welfare a word that people despise, but social welfare programs are the most humane thing a group of people can contribute too. They are not only humane, but necessary. If only people weren't allowed to have billions of dollars, everyone in our country would live comfortably.

4:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of living comfortably... I'll be living more comfortably knowing that the franchise is seeing if Beck is the future. I didn't watch last week's game, the first of the season I haven't watched, but I'll be watching this week to see Beck. Hopefully, that BYU QB will be like former BYU QB, Steve Young. I was watching youtube tapes of him online, and he was scrambling all over on the field. First game I've been excited about since the first three weeks.
Hopefully, he can play with Ricky against Pittsburgh too.

4:14 AM  
Anonymous guitariff said...

are you serious? unprovoked? what the hell do you call 4 hijacked planes killing hundreds of innocent lives? i agree that the war has been mismanaged in ways, but i also think that saddam hussein had to go. remember this wasn't the first time that he attacked us. and your little theory about a poor black man in the ghetto, is just stupid. maybe i don't understand because i'm white, but i know that i worked damn hard to get where i'm at. if people stopped waiting for things to get handed to them and actually worked for stuff then we wouldn't even be having this conversation. but anyway like i said this is a football blog not a political "my point is bettter than your's" blog, so let's just end it here.

4:18 AM  
Anonymous guitariff said...

eugene,
just look at bill gates. he had a great idea and made a lot of money accomplishing that dream. so following your logic, he should just give all of his hard earned money giving his money to people sitting on their a$$es? that makes alot of sense, thats part of the american dream! work hard and make alot of money.

4:32 AM  
Anonymous Eugene Debs said...

Guitariff,
Bill Gates made that money being a thief, as the majority of rich people do. He stole windows from Apple's Steve Jobbs. He stole the mouse. Everything he supposedly created was stolen. Now that he is rich, he doesn't let anyone steal anything from him, suing people constantly. Computer operating systems, like health care, should be free. Linux should be the system that everyone uses, not Microsoft. Apparently, you think everyone should go out and steal all the wealth they can, as rich people usually do.

5:20 AM  
Anonymous Ben Starosta said...

guitarriff,
You may have worked damn hard to get where you are, but you haven't gotten anywhere. You're still in the exact same class you were born into. The people who run this country have billions of dollars, and it is impossible for anyone not born into their class to ever amass that much wealth. Is it just for someone to be born into a position where they will inherit billions of dollars, while others are born homeless? Though blacks are kept impoverished, don't think whites aren't born into this situation either. Many white people are born into extremely abject poverty, especially in rural areas.
As far as the American Dream, it is a sick fantasy concocted by Horatio Alger. America's greatest writer, Mark Twain, wrote stories which showed the absurdities of the story. The rags to riches story is a disgusting story to give hope to poor people, making them think they can help themselves out of their situation, which is usually not the case. Unless one is born with unbelievable talent to entertain people, he or she is destined to stay impoverished, unless, of course, he or she becomes a successful criminal, ala Sean Carter.

5:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guitariff,
If you think rich people are in the army, you're a fool. Army's are constructed by the rich to protect their wealth. You can't tell me that you have met anyone in your company whose parents possess millions of dollars.
You need to educate yourself.
You could read Noam Chomsky's "The Prosperous Few and The Restless Many."
You can probably find it free online. He is a professor at MIT,and the most read and respected intellectual in the entire world. Let him educate you.

5:34 AM  
Blogger mike said...

I love Ricky Williams. And if you ever read comments from the guys in the locker room they like him to. Zach said

"Maybe he has some kind of disorder or something. I'm selfish though and I want him back because I know he would make us a better team"

He's always been a positive for us in the locker room when he is actually there. Cam gets it to, he has changed his tone quite a bit. Staring down the barrel of Cobbs, Booker, and Gado as you starting running backs if Chatman got hurt of left has that effect I guess.

6:53 AM  
Anonymous Jesse said...

Noam Chomsky is brilliant, and the book you recommended, anonymous, is fantastic. It's only about 80 pages. Even someone in the army who reads nothing but Sports Illustrated could read it

6:59 AM  
Blogger Ice said...

Jamal,
I can't believe people like you still ignorant. First, take a look at what you have around you and your freedom of speech on this blog. All this is a courtesy of the Sailors, Marines, Airmen, and Soldiers who sacrificed themselves so we can have it this way. In the Navy, the use words such as HONOR, COURAGE and COMMITTMMENT. Deifinitely, something you are lacked off. Wake up and be smarter. Otherwise, go back to school....GO DOLPHINS and RICKY

7:16 AM  
Anonymous Anti-Chomsky said...

Noam Chomsky may be brilliant, but he is an America-hating Marxist. He has never found one thing good to say about this great country.

He is a propagandist of the worst kind. He brilliantly lies and obfuscates. There has never been a Communist cause he didn't support. Anyone who has been alive and old enough to have witnessed the horror caused by totalitarianism, is insane to admire to Chomsky's world view. Stalin was brilliant as well as brutal.

Love to stay and chat, but got to go to work.

7:54 AM  
Anonymous Dol-Fan15 said...

as much i dispise this guy, i think we should let him return, "milk him" as u said, and get some kind of trade offer for him in the offseason. No doubt he's a good player but i don't think he's worth the trouble he's caused and frankly i go to the saying "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me."

8:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the left wing guppies. The statement that only poor people enlist in the U.S. Military is the kind of statement one would expect from a spineless coward. WE wouldn't expect YOU to understand advanced concepts like HONOR, COURAGE, SELF SACRAFICE, and COMMITMENT. You must not follow football at all because Pat Tillman, a multimillionaire, left his NFL career behind to enlist in the U.S. Army and gloriously lost his life defending FREEDOM. But I can hear you now, he was WHITE so it doesnt count. The fact is you will make up any excuse no matter how inane to keep from facing the facts.

8:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, didn't a millionare by the name of Pat Tilman join the army. I thought he was crazy for it being, and that was confirmed after what happened to him, but he was rich nonetheless and had no reason to go other than his self proclaimed love of this country..but hey..football blog people...lets cheer on Dolphins
drsamii

8:55 AM  
Anonymous Chris said...

Guitarriff - To this day the CIA has publicly stated that they have NO factual evidence whatsoever that Saddam was in any way behind 911. None. In fact, the records show that Mr. Bush only kept demanding of his assistances that someone come up with some link to Iraq. None was found. None. KNOW what you are fighting for my friend, it might scare you! Open your mind and don't be blind.

8:57 AM  
Anonymous ThinkAboutIt said...

At least view it first, come to your own conclusions after. Interesting things to ponder over some mysteries about 911. One thing is for certian, this war has nothing to do with Saddam and everything with Haliburton and others gaining billions in oil contracts.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501

9:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is with the politics and what has that got to do with RW? He got very rich being a football player. Should he come back? For sure! Do I like your trade idea? How about this? We are a few years away from being a contenda. Why not the opposite? Sign Chatman now! Showcase him and use Ricky as a backup. Next year keep Ricky as a backup and kickoff returner/special teams. We already spent the money on Rickie. Use him. He isn't going to cost us anything.

9:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They should take RW back and use him as much as possible. All their talk of showcasing him and hoping to get some value out of him in a trade is wrong. As long as he remains a good team mate and citizen, we keep him till his playing days are over. Thats how to get the best value out of him.

9:49 AM  
Anonymous Chris said...

It's ridiculous that there should even be a debate. He is one of the top 10 players in the league. Other players commit major crimes in society, hurt others, and get rewarded. Ricky is ten times a better person than those others will ever be. Let the man do his thing, better for us than running against us.

10:14 AM  
Anonymous DaveinOhio said...

I dont care what the outcome is. I just think it is great to have some positive news for a change. Beck starting, Williams possibly coming back. For a while there I always had a sick feeling in my gut after reading the Dolphin news. Today it is like a breath of fresh air. Now this air might land us at 0-10, but at least it is fresh. Wow, thats how bad it has been.

10:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good sound thinking, Armando. I'd like to add something else. Those of you who expect Ricky to let us down once again should realize that things are different this time. Ricky bailed on us the first time when we had no one else in the backfield to help us. The second time was during the terrible offensive performance of Saban's second year. This time it's different. Our offensive ground game has been doing great. At no. 11 in rushing offense overall, only 150 yards separate the 'phins from the no. 5 Raiders- a team that has been dominant on the ground. Chatman almost had that last week in one game!

So, this time, if Ricky bails again, he hurts only himself. Play him hard, especially against the hard-nosed Steelers. I'm already dreaming of Ricky running all over the Pats defense and helping the 'phins to once again defend Shula's 17-0! If he goes up in smoke, so what. Chatman and the offensive line will continue to produce the best ground game an 0-9 team has ever had.

Joe- Margate, FL.

10:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Be realistic, while I believe Ricky can still be a top back in the league, he isn't going to start out that way the first game back. He needs time practicing, taking hits, getting his mojo back. Even if he starts this season, I don't think he will be in full form until next season.

10:32 AM  
Anonymous Ram said...

First off Guitariff...
Thank you so much for your service to this country. IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11! You know damn well most of the people in the Army are there because it offers one of the few real opportunities available to the poor in this country. The government is becoming by and for the corporations. We are spending Billions in Iraq to control the limited amount of oil that the general populace is just now being told is running out. The amount of money that has been spent on the war in Iraq could have ended world hunger many times over. Just think what a move like that would have done to the war on terror. The war on terror is a war of ideas not a war of nations. Might does not make right. Sadly, too many think it does and this idea is keep alive by the right wing. They wrap themselves in God and country and too many are blinded by its brilliance. Public education is going down the toilet, large corporations are running everything. When was the last time you went to an independently owned hardware, shoe, drug, grocery, toy, or clothing store? The guy running these corporate stores can't buy a house, a car and send his kids to school and have his wife stay at home and raise his kids. (I don't mean to sound sexist but his wife can't work and leave him home to raise kids either.) The money is not there for one income families to be the norm anymore. That excess money is going to the guys (yes, guys) at the top. They control government, media, education...everything. We are losing our liberties everyday.

NOW FOOTBALL.
I am wondering why Ricky was not in Miami when the NFL made its announcement. Why didn't Cam or Randy speak to Ricky prior to the announcement. Its real simple. Speak to Rick, know what you plan to do with him once he is reinstated and make it happen the minute he is allowed back. If you keep him (please do) he should be at the training facility within hours of the announcement and participating at the next practice. If you plan on dumping him (don't), you could have traded his rights away before the trading deadline.

RICKY'S GOT FRESH LEGS!!! RUN RICKY RUN!!!

10:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This blog gets better and better and better even if our dolphins are getting worse.

11:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No way the fins go 0-16.

11:47 AM  
Anonymous Rico... said...

Yo guys...Enough with the politics and social talk. I'm just as much a patriot as the next guy, but this is a football blog... Of course they should keep and play Ricky. If nothing else he will be a stronger backup than anyone else on the roster. I know Jesse is good but he will not be here next year. The Phins will do what they do best...Let go of good talented players (Welker, Mare, Chambers, Mcknight) Ricky will have no choice but to play and play hard... Beck could really use him in the backfield against the hard ass Steelers D...

Go Dolphins...In Beck We Trust!!!

11:57 AM  
Blogger pez said...

Run Ricky all we can! Keep him in 2008 too. Ricky is worth more to us than a second day pick. I would feel safe if Ronnie would go down in 08' with Ricky here. With Ronnie's current injury, who knows if he will be ready for the start of the 08' season. I say let Ricky & Ronnie split carries the first six games (if Ronnies even ready)next year, then maybe Ronnie will be fresh for the home stretch. I just feel for the money Ricky is getting paid, it would be totally stupid to trade him for a second day pick. You just don't get a bargain like that in the NFL these days.

12:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know Armando, I think that welcoming Ricky will bring good energy to the locker room based on tha fact that the players know what he can bring to the table, this will elevate the play game of a lot of players in that locker room, with Ricky and Jesse running the bal will be easyer for Beck to find open receivers.

12:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is for guitariff and jamal---
Let me give you a perspective from the middle.
Black, White, Rich, or Poor everyone has their sights set on one thing. MONEY. It's pathettic what we do for it and who we idolize because they have it. Its a sick addiction that has consumed our country and has turned it into one generic landscape after another. We are best known for McDonald's and Starbucks yet do nothing about it as a whole. We are lazy. All of us. Our country was not based upon who can get the most money like some idiots tend to think. This country is based upon people who fought for the freedom to stake their claim for a better life. Freedom. Yet we are now ALL prisoners of the dollar. And we are ALL guilty. There are homeless people that I see less miserable than some coorporate big shots. People need to know this side. So less stress is placed upon the dollar and more about family and friends and art and music...sounds really bad and hippie. But I know from experience...both sides.

12:39 PM  
Anonymous guitariff said...

does anybody else find it funny that we are arguing a point that will be never agreed upon? can we just drop it and talk football? everyone is entitled to their opinion, and i respect it, but this is rediculous. we should be talking about beck and williams, but instead we're talking about wars and politics and money. please lets all just agree to disagree huh?
go dolphins!

12:48 PM  
Anonymous Gersom said...

Ok guitariff,
It's true we should agree to disagree in order to drop this subject, but you are wrong. Just had to stick that in there. ;) I am glad Ricky is back. If he shows any sign of competence another team will be ready to trade for as soon as the season is over. I really don't see the team keeping him after this season no matter how well he does. Remember Mueller shoved him out of New Orleans. I expect the same here. He doesn't like him and he will use his skills as a GM to dangle him in front of other teams like New England (ala Wexler). I just hope that when Ricky is shipped to another team, it's to one we don't normally play.

1:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree. Just treat him no different than a very good injury prone player who you cant depend on to suit up every week and use him as much as you can while he's available. Someone like a Fred Taylor or Jamal Lewis.

No 6th rounder is going to give you the instant potential for a 1200 - 1500 yard season.

4:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jamal,

STOP acting as if youre intelligent and simply say "Da main be holn' us back n thangs!"!

The ONLY reason "poor" people STAY poor is because of being SORRY and content or being raised in an environment that blames ALL others for their place in life and NEVER accepts responsiblity for their OWN decisions or LACK THEREOF!

This ISNT India where the caste system is the rule of the day!

People come to America on what amounts to tire innertubes or running across our borders EVERYDAY for a better way of life for them and their families and MANY not only do well but do VERY WELL and they cant even speak English,of course they expect more of themselves than gold teef,24" rims,uh fauty,uh shauty,a 12 gauge shotty and a Mr.T starter kit! ..but then again,your "kind" blames others for their problems and poverty and cant speak English either..what is your excuse again??????????????

Oh yeah..Da main be holn' us back n thangs

4:34 PM  
Anonymous George said...

The people who claim that Ricky Williams is dumb for giving up millions of dollars to smoke pot should be saying the same thing about Pat Tillman. Pat Tillman is a fool who went to war because he was dumb enough to believe the blind patriotism that this country teaches. I have so much more respect for Ricky than I do for Pat Tillman. He was just a big sucker, like the rest of people who actually believe they are defending America, and not just America's rich.

7:52 PM  
Anonymous Dan said...

Yes, Pat Tillman was a fool. This may sound crazy to many of you. I agree. By the way, Pat Tillman wasn't rich. The people who control this country have billions of dollars, not a mere couple million. One way the rich keep you as servants is by telling you that one with a million dollars is rich. Pat Tillman made it to upper middle class, but soon made it out of there. he still had the ignorant mind of a poor person. No rich person would ever believe in dying for what you call honor, courage, etc. Do any of the children of politicians ever go to war? Of course not. Poor people go to war to keep the rich in power.

7:57 PM  
Anonymous guitariff said...

george, i can't believe that you would even think that about pat tillman. while you may not have done the same thing, or even agree with his decision, there is no reason to say that. he was an american hero, who gave his life for the freedoms you take for granted! it is one thing to talk sh*t about the war, it's quite another to talk sh*t about the people who die for your freedom. what are you gonna do next, say that the people in the world trade center were stupid for going to work? show a little respect you ungrateful little sh*t!!!

8:00 PM  
Anonymous guitariff said...

ok obviously you people that agree that pat tillman is a fool are just ignorant! it's not even about the goverment or the war, it's about giving the ultimate sacrifice for something you believe in. i am willing to bet that all of you that don't agree with the war, wouldn't be willing to die to end it. so shut the f*ck up already!

8:03 PM  
Anonymous Bill said...

Hey, Racist Anonymous,
That's real kind of you to make Jamal out to be a racist stereotype. You think he must talk a certain way because he is black, brilliant assumption. You think he is lazy, and drives a car with rims, and has gold teeth. You are senseless. I'm sure that Jamal has spent more time studying in a library than you have. It is easy to gather this from comparing his post to yours.
You believe in the pathetic American Dream story. I'm sure it is easier for you to believe in it than it is for some. You weren't born into as bad of poverty. I guess people should blame themselves for being born into debt. I bet you feel the same way about sex slaves in Israel. If they really wanted to be in a better position, they'd just escape. Yes, slavery still exists in the U.S. The poor class in the U.S. are slaves. It is called economic slavery.

8:09 PM  
Anonymous George said...

What freedoms did Pat Tillman protect?

What freedoms do the United States have that other countries do not have, which need to be protected?

8:12 PM  
Anonymous Gersom said...

Look, Look. I may not agree with guitariff and Jamal, but Pat Tillman was no fool!!!! He was a PATRIOT!!!!! Tillman signed up to fight Al-Quaeda in Afghnistan. That is where there are headquartered. It's in government documents that he began to question this administrations handling of the war (just like alot of other servicemen and women) when it became apparent that they were being diverted away from the fight with Al-Quaeda to a country that had nothing to do with 9-11. He new who he was fighting and why he was fighting. He was no fool. He had the intelligence to question.

8:13 PM  
Anonymous guitariff said...

why does everyone assume that poor people are black? there are plenty of poor white people, and mexicans, and chinese, etc. the point is, how did this get into a racial battle? it isn't about what color or religion or any of that crap, so why turn it into that? i understand that people are getting pissed, but there is no need to make fun of peoples skin color.

8:16 PM  
Anonymous Dan said...

Poor guitariff,
You are going to die for the rulers of this country too, and then think you're doing it for freedom. It's so sad.
It's unfortunate that the American government has distorted the meaning of "freedom" by using it to defend their atrocities.
Freedom no longer has meaning in this country.
It's a word Bush pulls out when he needs to justify his actions.
Why do I bomb children...Oh, freedom.
Your death will only hold meaning to you, guitariff.
To the rich, it is just a big joke.

8:17 PM  
Anonymous guitariff said...

hey george how about that little thing called freedom of speech. try going to iraq (before we got there) and talk sh*t about saddam and see what happens. so you are proving my point that you all take for granted the freedoms that men and women have died for.

8:19 PM  
Anonymous Bill said...

guitariff,
A higher percentage of black people live in poverty than white people within the United States. This is a fact. The reason behind this is because of racism. Black people were brought here to be slaves. After the Civil War, blacks were subjected to economic slavery, as many poor whites are as well. While many whites are economic slaves, a higher % of blacks are. This cannot be denied.

8:24 PM  
Anonymous George said...

It's pretty silly to believe that people wouldn't have the freedom of speech if it weren't for our army. I guess you believe there is some boogie man out there who is trying to take it from us. Anyone willing to believe that is a damn fool.
Freedom of speech isn't something that is given to anyone, people gain it themselves by simply saying what they want, and they don't need an army for that. Many nations have freedom of speech without even having an army, Costa Rica, for example.

8:27 PM  
Anonymous guitariff said...

nobody will take it from us? how about WWII? you think if Hitler would have won that war, we would be sitting here on our computers talking about this? and i think the military had a little something to do with that btw.

8:30 PM  
Anonymous Jerry said...

George,
I guess you don't know who your dealing with. Guitariff is an expert on Iraqi culture and history. He knows exactly what it was like in Iraq before the terrorist government of the United States invaded it.
It sure looks like America has given Iraq freedom. More people have been killed in Iraq since the U.S. has been there than ever died when Saddam was in power. Why? So Americas rich can become richer.
I bet that Guitariff doesn't notice that a higher % of the U.S. population is in prisons than any other country in the world. If the United States is so free, why does it keep the most people in prison?

8:35 PM  
Anonymous guitariff said...

because we have the stupidest people you retard! if you don't wanna go to jail then don't do stupid sh*t! i can't believe that you used that as a legitimate argument!

8:38 PM  
Anonymous guitariff said...

jerry unlike you i have actually been to iraq, so i guess that i am more of an expert than you are

8:39 PM  
Anonymous Bill said...

Saying the U.S. has the dumbest people is Anti-American and shows little respect for people, guitariff.

8:41 PM  
Anonymous guitariff said...

well obviously they are stupid if they are murdering and raping people. are you defending them bill? i have respect for all law abiding citizens, but if you do the crime you do the time.

8:44 PM  
Anonymous guitariff said...

well obviously they are stupid if they are murdering and raping people. are you defending them bill? i have respect for all law abiding citizens, but if you do the crime you do the time.

8:44 PM  
Anonymous Jerry said...

Going to a country does not give you knowledge of the place. That is like saying a tourist going to a resort in Mexico knows something about Mexico, when all they really know is that there is a resort there.
Did you ever talk to an actual citizen of Iraq? Of course not, you can't speak their language.
Why don't you read some books, and educate yourself. The T.V. isn't doing the job for you.

8:45 PM  
Anonymous guitariff said...

i'm not saying that i'm an expert what i'm saying is that i have seen it for myself. i know more about what it's like over there than someone who just sees it on t.v.

8:48 PM  
Anonymous Ben Starosta said...

People are in prison because prisons are big business. Most prisons are actually privately owned. The wealthy people that run our country make exuberant amounts of money through the government contracts that pay them for keeping people locked up, and providing the bare minimum to these people. It is similar to the government contracts that pay companies like Haliburton to rebuild torn down nations, or the gov't contracts that pay rich companies to provide equipment for soldiers.
Prisons, like war, is big business. The rich benefit, while the poor suffer.

8:53 PM  
Anonymous guitariff said...

a bussiness? we spend billions of dollars trying to keep prisoners happy. i say we just let them all shoot each other, it would save us a lot of money rather than locking them up for the rest of their lives!

8:56 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

I honestly CAN NOT belive I'm readin this GARBAGE from ANTI-Americas. This is beyond ridiculous, unpatriotic, and blatant disrespect to america, the government and the military.

If you've forgotten your RIGHTS, allow me to REMIND YOU:

Article I
After the first enumeration required by the first article of the Constitution, there shall be one representative for every thirty thousand, until the number shall amount to one hundred, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall be not less than one hundred representatives, nor less than one representative for every forty thousand persons, until the number of representatives shall amount to two hundred; after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall be not less than two hundred representatives, nor more than one representative for every fifty thousand persons.

Article II
No law varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.

Article III
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Article IV
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Article V
No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

Article VI
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Article VII
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Article VIII
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

Article IX
In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

Article X
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Article XI
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Article XII
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

If you're so ignorant to think that other countries don't allow these freedoms try taking a laptop with 128-bit web browser encryption outside the US! You can't, because the public internet in MOST countries is MONITORED. Try a peaceful assembly in AFRICA (I'd call that worse than the boogie man!)...You'll likely end up in a body-bag care of a 10 year old with an AK. Try buying a firearm in CURRENT Germany...Try practicing Christianity in a MUSLIM dominated country. (The goverment MIGHT not kill you, but SOMEONE will, and NOONE will protect you)

To talk as disrespectfully as many of you have, ESP George and Bill shows a complete lack of character and hypocrite for living in MY country.

I HAVE spoken with Iraqis. We had translators in some of our camps. I've been in Iraq as a soldier and a contractor for big, bag Lockheed Martin.

The Iraqi people are GRACIOUS. Something you people could NEVER understand. I'm not saying that they wasn't an alterior motive for being there, or anywhere else, but why shouldn't we profit for the death's of our citizens and resources?

The ignorance and HATE of the government and troops that you fools are spewing is absolutely PATHETIC and disgusting! You should be firmly ashamed of yourselves...You're the same type of people that were protesting at soldier's funerals. HORRIFIC. It's not always about "Down with the man" Sometimes, it's about people who believe in the ideals that this country was founded on and KNOW that we're part of the greatest nation in the world (even if it's far from perfect).

8:56 PM  
Anonymous Bill said...

Years ago I recognized my kinship with all living beings, and I made up my mind that I was not one bit better than the meanest on earth. I said then, and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free.

8:56 PM  
Anonymous George said...

Marc,
We've missed you. We're glad to have you back. Just keep your cursing to a minimum, or Armando will have to delete your beautiful thoughts.

Now, the Bill of Rights is a document that was created by a rich class that wanted to escape the bonds of a different rich class in Britain, which was trying to oppress them. None of the "founding fathers," including George Washington, wanted to help the average citizens of this new land. They wanted to rule over a land.
At the time of the American revolution, only about 30% of the population of what was America favored the revolution, which was actually a significant amount for a revolution. Why did only 30% favor the war? Because it only decided who would rule over them, and the new people were not any different from the British. They were British, in fact.
Study history.

9:05 PM  
Anonymous guitariff said...

marc, there is just no sense in trying to talk to these people. they take everything they have been given for granted and they just want more. but do they want to work hard and earn it? no! they want the government to give them everything so that they can sit on their asses and not do a damn thing except bitch! i'm outta here, this is just a complete waste of time!

9:05 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

And how does any of that make those rights and freedoms that you and I enjoy any less relevant?

9:07 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

How about instead of talking about the American Revolution dispute something I said that's relevant TODAY in America VS the world and the freedom's we enojoy....Wait, that would defeat your whole agenda of "Down with the man!"

9:10 PM  
Anonymous Bill said...

Marc,
You know nothing about other nations of the world. Therefore, you have no right to claim that the United States is better.
You're bah bah bahing like a sheep again, just repeating ignorant phrases.
Obviously you cannot name a tenth of the 365 countries of this world. How can you claim that the United States is better than them when you can't even name them?
Sadly, the NFL encourages your "We're #1" rhetoric.

9:10 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

Once again, quite presumptuous. I suppose since I was in the military I must not be educated? I've given examples. How about you giving ME examples of SUPERIOR countries. Fact is, if you could, we'd ALL know who they were. And you could take your sorry asses there!

9:14 PM  
Anonymous Ben Starosta said...

The Bill of Rights is a document that is made to make people feel they have freedoms when they truly do not.
As for freedom of speech:
In the 1980's the New York Times fired two reporters for reporting on the mass graves created by the Nicaraguan Contra, which was secretly funded by the Regan administration through arms that it had sold Iran. You may know this as the Iran Contra scandal.
All of what the two journalists reported was proven to be true ten years later. Did the Bill of Rights protect them? No
The government controls the media. Therefore, freedom of speech is limited.

9:16 PM  
Anonymous Bill said...

Marc,
I don't believe that countries are superior to other countries. I am actually living in South Korea at the moment. I have spent time in Spain, Peru, Venezuela, Costa Rica, England, and now South Korea. I can tell you that the health care was more affordable in all of these countries. When I got sick in Venezuela, I didn't have to pay a cent to visit the doctor. I know I have felt just as free in all of these countries.
I don't know how your "my area sports team is superior to yours" argument works when your talking about nations.
I believe that I am a citizen of the world, not just a country

9:22 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

People's right get violated all the time. It happens. Thank you for ONE EXAMPLE of ONE RIGHT being violated. That government sure is thorough! And they got fired? (MANY OTHER COUNTRIES THEY'D BE KILLED!) Well, maybe there boss just didn't want the heat and told them not to, and they ran with it anyway. That's the governments fault? It's all speculation, everything is a conspiracy.

What has the government done to anyone here? You want cradle to grave healthcare like Germany and other socialist societys? Well, they pay taxes on ALL ITEMS in their homes. If you had ever been there, you would notice that around tax time you can find lots of stuff on curbs for ANYONE to take, as ALL property is taxed....

9:24 PM  
Anonymous guiariff said...

sweet bill, i hope you lose your passport and you can't get back here. that is exactly what we need is for all of you anti-american b*tches to leave this country if you don't like it

9:25 PM  
Anonymous Bill said...

Don't worry, guitariff. I'll be coming back to the United States soon to teach in the United States, because I feel it is my duty to educate children so they do not join the army, and get killed in rich man's game.

9:29 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

Well, with a list of exotic locations like that, minus South Korea I can see how you have the (mis)impression that we are all on a level-playing ground. Did you happen to see any REAL POVERTY in Costa Rica? It's much different than the fat bums we have here who just need some alchol to get by. Other countries that have POVERTY are STARVING and DYING.

9:31 PM  
Anonymous Bill said...

Marc,
Yes, sales tax taxes items that are purchased. That means all things that people own. Most states in the United States have sales tax. Germany does not tax every item that everyone owns every year. That would be impossible. Do you really think the German government has enough people to send around to everyone's home to make sure they are claim every pair of socks. You are dumb to believe that this is possible.
Why is the U.S. better than any of the countries I have spent time in?
I didn't hear any reasons.

9:33 PM  
Anonymous guitariff said...

well i'm happy for you bill but i know my son will be brought up to form his own opinion about what he thinks is right or wrong. you can teach whatever you want but as a parent i am the one who teaches my kid!

9:34 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

Teach? Who's going to listen. If you're 50% more educated than the last "teacher" that posted with his plethora of spelling and grammatical errors that makes you about as smart as an 8th grader (on a curved scale). At least NOW I know why education in America is sub-par. Our children are being taught by a bunch of Cam Cameron's!

9:35 PM  
Anonymous Bill said...

Costa Rica does have some poverty issues, but a higher % of people are in poverty in the United States. The literacy rate is higher in Costa Rica. They have a lower infant mortality rate. The health care is free in Costa Rica. Costa Rica does not have an army. They proudly boast that they have teachers, not soldiers.

You are dumb to think that people don't die from starvation in the United States. Many many children and adults die each day from malnutrition because they cannot afford proper nutritioin.

9:41 PM  
Anonymous Jim said...

Marc, the other day you expressed the opinion tg when he led the NFL in rushing. hat you didn't think Ricky was tokin' Ricky tested positive for a third time when he abruptly retired in before the 2004 season. That means he must have been toking when he was running for all those yards in the 2002 and 2003 seasons because he tested positive in this time period.

9:48 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

Peru is a developing country with a 2004 Human Development Index score of 0.767.[52] Its 2006 per capita income was US$3,374;[53] 51.6% of its total population is poor, including 19.2% that is extremely poor. There's your example.

There's more on the HDI, looks like we're #8. That's, of course, not including all the ADDITIONAL benefits of being an AMERICAN. Can't speak for Peru on the HDI, they aren't there, but Spain is beneath us...

According to the Bread for the World Institute (http://www.bread.org/hungerbasics/domestic.html) 3.5 percent of U.S. households experience hunger. Some people in these households frequently skip meals or eat too little, sometimes going without food for a whole day. 9.6 million people, including 3 million children, live in these homes.

WOW, sometimes americans go A WHOLE DAY without food!

9:49 PM  
Anonymous Fred said...

ESPN just did an article on Ricky that said he tested positive for weed at least 4 times since Miami got him in 2002. He only played 3 seasons here, so he was smoking in all of them.

9:51 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

Jim, I don't recall saying that I knew WHEN Ricky was tokin'. If you wanna do the research then knock yourself out. It was foolish on his part either way. What exactly is your point? You can run while smokin' pot? That's great!

9:51 PM  
Anonymous Bill said...

Marc,
You're sick to trivialize the fact that people have to go for a whole day without food.
Also, obviously, some go much longer, and die. Just because it says some go a day, it doesn't mean some don't go without for many days.
As far as income is concerned, you can't compare their incomes when the cost of living is less. They use soles in Peru, not dollars.
Don't forget that the reason that much of the 20% of Peru is in poverty is due to the way American companies have controlled their country.
United Fruit company, which is now Chiquita, actually set up plantations, and when the workers tried to unionize and ask for benefits, they mowed them down with machine guns, and found new employees. This is an American company.
It is a repeating cycle. Keeping people in poverty in Latin America, keeps America's rich even richer.
When the people of Chile voted out a president who was a U.S. pawn, the United States sent in C.I.A. troops, and overthrew their democratically elected government. Henry Kissinger said, "They can vote for their president, but if they vote for the wrong one, we'll have to replace him."
The Untied States government, run by big disgusting corporations, is responsible for much of the world'spoverty

10:00 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

I believe Chris Rock said it best. "America is the only country that hunts on a full stomach!"

10:02 PM  
Anonymous Jim said...

What can't you do while smoking pot?

10:02 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

Have an intelligent conversation, OBVIOUSLY!

10:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No one can have an intelligent conversation with you, Marc, because you're in it.

10:06 PM  
Anonymous Bill said...

Great, quote a comedian. That will really win you an argument.

10:08 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

Wait, so when I prove you wrong by using statistics you say that I'm disregarding the 3.5% of starving Americans that are too lazy to dumpster dive, or go fishing? I suppose you ALWAYS clean your plate cause "There are starving kids in Africa".

Then you go on to more conspiracies and/or tragedies and blame the US for "MOST OF THE WORLD'S POVERTY".

I don't even know why I'm wasting my time TRYING to reason, which I'm supposed to not be able to do with people who obviously don't need reason to win an argument and rely on speculation and events that are OBVIOUS exeptions!

If you hate America and corporations and the rich and the poor, who ARE you fighting for? Who are you trying to protect with the propaganda you're spewing?

I'm done with all of you

10:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MAYBE if YOU want TO win A argument, YOU should TYPE some WORDS in ALL capitals. MARC thinks IT works.

10:10 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

Well, Bill, I've already won the argument, the facts are there. You can skew them as you wish to meet your agenda if you'd like. If you haven't noticed, most comedy is FUNNY, because it's jest, based on truth. Thank you and goodnight, LOSER

10:11 PM  
Anonymous Bill said...

These aren't conspiracy theories. This is the history that is taught at any University or in any Advanced Placement high school history class. Just because the history classes you took was dumbed down version, doesn't mean the history presented in the more advanced classes is conspiracy theories.

10:13 PM  
Anonymous John said...

I learned about the banana wars in my A.P. history class. We also used Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the United States," and it gave me a better background on history. A little more than George Washington is a hero. He chopped down a tree

10:15 PM  
Anonymous Bill said...

Who said I hated America's poor? They are the people I hope will govern this country someday. I am speaking out against America's ultra rich, who keep much of the world in poverty. If you can't get this out of what I have typed, of course, you can't understand, Jingo Marc.

10:18 PM  
Anonymous guitariff said...

bill not only are you stupid you're a hipocrit. obviously if your traveling to other countries, you've got a little bit of money. why not give every thing you have to the poor?

10:21 PM  
Anonymous Bill said...

Don't worry guitariff. I give a decent portion now. However, any businessman will tell you that you need money to make money. The most intelligent way to get money to the needy is to make as much as you can, and then give it all away. I plan on giving every cent to charity when I pass. Hopefully, I will be able to donate between $250,000 and $500,000.

10:29 PM  
Anonymous guitariff said...

well i'm happy for you, and i hope you don't have kids, because i don't think they will be too hapy with that.

10:34 PM  
Anonymous Ben Starosta said...

Mr. anti-chomsky,
Noam Chomsky has not supported all Communist governments. He has greatly criticized the government of the Soviet Union. He is not a supporter of Lenninism.
Noam Chomsky is an Anarcho-syndicalist. Obviously, he has spoken out against the United States' brutal plutocratic oligarchy.
Anyone living today has witnessed totalitarian actions, going to war with Iraq over bogus accusations.
The Democrats and Republicans together are a totalitarian regime because they are members of the same political group which govern our nation.

10:49 PM  
Blogger Armando Salguero said...

I have read over some of your rants and America bashing on this forum and I would ask three questions that nobody has ever, ever answered for me with any semblance of logic:

1. Why is it so many people that loathe and bash this country, continue to live here?

2. I know of millions of people who would love to come here. The number of those itching to get out is miniscule. Why?

3. What country out there is better?

By the way, where does this chomsky guy live? And Bill, you citizen of the world and lover of Costa Rica, where exactly do you live? Betcha it's within the friendly confines of the USA.

Food for thought

12:10 AM  
Anonymous guitariff said...

right on mando i'm totally with you love it or leave it! i knew it would only be a matter of time before you came here to see why this blog is getting so many comments.

12:31 AM  
Anonymous Bill said...

Armando,
If you read the chat, you'd have learned that I'm living in South Korea.
However, no one talked bad about America, only its government.
The people who want to come here only want to come here because the rich kick down a few more crumbs here than they do in some other countries. Don't forget, the United States government is responsible for why many of them are in such a poor situation in the countries that they are attempting to flee from.
While no country has a perfect government, many are better than the United States, Canada, France, Costa Rica, Germany, are but a few.
You must realize though, when you engage in these topics, they are different from sports. It's not my team is better than yours. That argument does not work.
Finally, realize that fleeing a country is cowardly. If one wants their country to be different, they try to change it, like the brilliant Noam Chomsky.
Finally, Armando, you are fit for talking about sports, and that's about it. You have no insight worth expressing when it comes to social matters. You, like many sports fans, are mere sheep, patriotic flagophiles.
It's O.K. While many of us would like our sports writers to be Doctors of Journalism, not everyone can achieve the greatness of the late Hunter S.
Maybe you should start by reading something by an author that has a little bit of knowledge outside of the sports world. I have great hope in the human race. You to can attain a social conscience, not just be a sheep to be herded.

5:31 AM  
Anonymous Steve said...

I agree Bill. The only part I disagree with is when you say Armando is suited for sports. I think he belongs at a McDons drive thru.

6:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've always been a beliver in the old axiom: fool me once. Shame on you. Fool me twice? Shame on me. Ride him hard until the end of his contract because Armando's right about that point, and then decide if he is an asset or liability.

DrumFinFan

2:06 PM  
Anonymous Harry Potter said...

To Anti-Chomsky:

Let´s analyze a bit: First of all, and just to point it out, your nick -athough perhaps a joke- reveals a certain amount of totalitarianism: that which does not think as I do, I am against.

Second, communism does not equal totalitarianism. Otherwhise you would have to affirm such a thing as the Louis dynasty in France was communism. Absurd, don't you think? Totalitarianism can exist in capitalist countries, like Chile during Pinochet, Spain under Franco, Germany under Hitler, and, de facto, USA under Bush. Man, they even inherited the throne (George to Jr) in 8 years (not to mention Bush stole the elections).
To say that a person is a Marxist is not an argument against anything, it is actually a compliment. Have you actually ever read Marx? I honestly doubt it. Otherwise you would see that his theory has nothing to do with the former USSR or Stalin or Lennin. Not because of the sole fact that I claim to be the pope, I am. Speeches mean nothing if they are not congruent with reality.
Another example? USA claim to fight for "freedom" and "democracy" and "human rights" (a super heroes culture), however we have Latinamerica oppressed and have supported, precisely, Pinochet, the Argentinian Gorilas and any totalitarian government as long as they let us exploit their natural resources and people.
So, man, a little less common places (clichés) and a little bit more of brain, thinking and culture.

3:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, I'm sorry, I thought this was a football blog. Hmm, where to start.

The Unites States has become an empire, and it's growing and comsuming more resources. The President is an oil man. The middle east has the most. Good idea to get our foot in the door before all billion plus Chinese own cars. Now, where does Bush start?

Let's see, he probably doesn't like Saddam much anyway because of how he thumbed his nose at daddy G. H. W. Bush, so Iraq was the perfect place to putsch (say that three times fast) because he was also killing his own people. Topple him, look like saviors, then set up base camp in oil central, which ours happens to be an embassy that was built in Baghdad, under cover of war, that cost you, me and the rest of the taxpayers nearly three quarters of a billion dollars to build and the government is forcing people to go work in.

The whole problem to me is this; If you try to spread democracy with violence, then you're not spreading democracy, you're imposing your will, and your beliefs, on others. Once the threat of Saddam was removed we should have left.

The U.S. has a military intervention policy that goes back decades. look it up, but the goal was never to simply remove the man from power. That was oil. It was simply in the empire's best interest, and because he can't have patriotic American's like us thinking that he would expand our empire through violence (like a certain coward from Austria 70 years ago), because then, we might start to think that he's not such a savior. Heck, he may even look like he's starting the Fourth Reich.

Guess what? In many parts of the world, it looks just that way. And now, the Chinese are trying to poison our food supply, and our children; Russia is selling weapons all over the globe; you know about Chavez in Venezuela, and I know there are others.

By the way, this global view of the American government will never change until the people of the empire stand up to President Nucular and remove him from office (will you at least learn how to say the word before you move your war to Tehran?). Oh, you didn't know they were in the crosshairs next?

Very sad. Alternative energy sources are needed deseperatelyin this country, but because this jerk is grounded in black gold, we waste all those billions of dollars on war that could be used for research, or relief. Hello!

It's good to see that some people are finally taking that sesriously. Now, what are you going to do about that other problem?

Ticklish subject.

Oh yeah, a football blog. Ride him hard. Ride him often. We need some wins.

Go Dolphins!!!
DrumFinFan

3:32 PM  
Blogger DrumFinFan said...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12319798/

If this doesn't make you a little sick, and a lot angry, then you need to take a good, hard look in the mirror.

Go Dolphins!!!

10:41 AM  

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