Jags trade-up to get DE hurts Dolphins
You can remove one of the teams that had shown the most interest in trading for Jason Taylor from the list of possibilities.
The Jacksonville Jaguars traded up from No. 26 to No. 8 today and used the pick on Florida DE Derrick Harvey. Harvey had all of 4.5 sacks last season and yet the Jags gave up their pick in the first round (No. 26 overall, along with their two third round picks) for the chance to move up.
So where does that leave the Dolphins as they try to trade Taylor?
Philadelphia, Washington, Dallas, and lately San Diego and Green Bay are showing as the biggest interest if a trade is to be made.
Frankly, I don't see anyone giving up a first round pick for Taylor, however. We'll see.
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The Jacksonville Jaguars traded up from No. 26 to No. 8 today and used the pick on Florida DE Derrick Harvey. Harvey had all of 4.5 sacks last season and yet the Jags gave up their pick in the first round (No. 26 overall, along with their two third round picks) for the chance to move up.
So where does that leave the Dolphins as they try to trade Taylor?
Philadelphia, Washington, Dallas, and lately San Diego and Green Bay are showing as the biggest interest if a trade is to be made.
Frankly, I don't see anyone giving up a first round pick for Taylor, however. We'll see.
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posted by Armando Salguero at 4:25 PM
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I think the Jags made a huge mistake in giving up so much for an unproven rookie DE. They could have gotten JT for a 1st only from the Phins and secured atleast 10 sacks and a veteran leader in the locker room.
With the 17th pick the Lions pick Gosder Cherilus. He's a right tackle who isn't very good at LT.
Four of the last six picks have been offensive tackles.
Texans on the clock.
Texans trade their pick to the Ravens, who I believe will try to pick a QB -- maybe Henne.
Oh my gosh, it looks like Flacco. Cam Cameron blows it with a QB again.
Today, Joe Flacco is a Raven. Let's turn that thumb this direction.
Watch the Eagles. Will they make a move for JT? Doubt it, but ...
what about trading JT for lito sheppard??
Works for me...
armando have the dolphins shown any interest in aquiring lito sheppard.. it makes sense if they want jason taylor
Is three any chance we trade out of our next pick?
Who could trade in the second round?
Is three any chance we trade out of our next pick?
would we look into brandon flowers if he drops to us.. I like him
Eagles trade back to Panthers. Carolina picks Jeff Otah. Stand by for the trade specifics but I think Carolina doesn't have a first to give Philly.
Did the eagles get more picks to trade for JT?
ESPN is sucking right now. Not giving quick info on trade information.
Tampa Bay is on the clock.
What do you think about Aqib Talib? Will he be there at 32? If he is I think the dolphins should take him, what are your thoughts?
Eagles are out of the first round altogether. So much for Miami getting a first from them. Another one bites the dust.
Eagles now have the 43rd pick. Any chance that's for JT?
Wow, Eagles get all that.
There is no doubt that Brian Brohm or Chad Henne will be the pick at 32. Sure we have Beck but you can't have enough good QBs with trade value. I think Henne is probably a tick better than Beck right away and much younger. Brohm, I can't believe he has fallen the way he has because of a bad football team he had to carry last year. Either one would start for Miami week 1.
Eagles got a second rounder, a fourth rounder and a first rounder in '09. Great trade for Iggles.
But again, if they are to get Taylor, it'll have to be with their second rounders 43rd and 49th overall).
As they just mentioned on ESPN, now we get to the playoff teams.
These are the teams supposedly that would be a player away that might be most interested in Taylor.
We need to go CB, OL or DL at 32, not QB.
haha yeah ok... what you smoking jason
Nah the Dolphins wont trade JT this draft, they will wait until October when teams are a little more hungry for that All Pro sack master.
Bucs on the clock and they pick ... Aqib Talib, the CB from Kansas.
Very talented. Very talented. Good playmaker. But not super fast and off field issues.
Not smoking any Ricky weed, I just think if you have an opportunity to get either QB there you have to do it with the state of the QB position in Miami for so long.
Talib apparently had reefer madness.
If there is going to be a JT trade this draft it would be with Washington or Dallas and I dont see it happening.
Quinton Groves, Lawrence Jackson.........at 32.
At this point, I really really hope they can jump into the first round with a JT trade. We will miss him, he was great, but we lost the Round 4 pick to Dallas, and we need more top 100 guys.
Go Jake
Mando, if Groves, Campbell, Henne, or Brohm is there at 32, who do you pick?
I think Washington and Dallas go Bahlmer and Merling back to back
If you're any of these playoff teams, why would you give up a pick for Jason Taylor when you could just draft a DE? Will Taylor, for one, maybe two, seasons be that much more of a game-changer?
Redskins trade there 1! Hope its for JT!
Mendenhall
ROFL!!!!HAHAHA
Trade by the Redskins with Atlanta and the Falcons take Sam Baker and offensive tackle from USC. yawn.
Cowboys on the clock. Trade? CB?
Jake Long is looking great now! I am still hopefull we can grab another tackle with the 2nd 2nd rounder, maybe Carl Nicks to plug in at RT and Carey goes to G where he is a beast.
Branden: Groves.
This is the worst live blog ever. No update or comments for over an hour??
Kathleen, I started at 5 p.m. and haven't stopped since. What's the deal?
Jason: John Greco is a guy to keep in mind in the second/third round as a RT option.
Kathleen is hanging out with Aqib Talib. She is seeing things.
Kind of off topic here, but for all those people who were hesitant to pick Jake...........Atlanta just traded up for Sam Baker!!!
If we had taken Chris #1, we would be looking at Div 1-AA left tackles as what might be left.
As expected, we got the BEST Tackle, in the BEST Tackle class. He was overanalyzed to death about his pass protection...but virtually 100% thought he was the best....
Atlanta doesnt go QB with the 21st pick.. hahaha.. good news for dolphins fans =)
Kathleen, can you flash us your boobs to keep us entertained?
Atlanta went QB at NO. 3. Of course they wouldn't go with a QB at 21.
oppps.. i forgot all about Ryan at the pick 3..
Why right there? They could have gotten him with their next one....
Cowboys use the Arkansas pipeline of owner Jerry Jones to pick Arkansas RB Felix Jones.
Phin fans this could not be playing out any better for us to get Henne or Brohm.
SF and GB are the only two teams in front right now that I could see remotely thinking QB
Mando, why did ECU's Crhis johnson move up higher than UCFs running back Kevin Smith in most mock drafts? I thought the knock on Kevin was his runnin in C-USA, what gives? Also do you think he will get picked up today?
Sorry Armando; I was checking in on the main page and hadn't seen an update. I do apologize. Any JT news?
I give Kathleen some credit for admitting a mistake and apologizing. I respect that.
what makes you so sure that dolphins even care for henne or brohm
nfl network reports that seattle might go QB at 25..
Here comes the run on WRS I think
one more mando, are the fins showing any interest in Kenny Phillip if he is available? I love ring my Bell but hes going on 30 pretty soon.
No worries, Kathleen. Welcome.
Armando...you take a lot of crap for your blogs and writing....opinions are like cell phones..everyones got one and no one is impressed....its easy to be an anonymous complaining critic...hang in there
Chase, Henne is the Bill Parcells type of QB. Trust me, if he is there when we pick, Bill will take him in a heart beat
Do you think teams are shying away from Quentin groves because of his heart surgery? It looks like he might be available.
we'll see jason we'll see
Steeler, a team with a pro bowl RB who they got without using a draft pick, now use a first-rounder on Rashard Mendenhall.
That's a good player, but it hardly addresses needs. They lack S depth and their CBs are questionable.
Personally, I think Brohm is better, but Im just saying what I think BP will do. Id be happy with either but I think Brohm is the better of the two. I think he got a bad rap for a lowsy team this past season and everyone forgets about how good he really is. Granted, the Dolphins might have a hard time beating Louisville right now so he wont be gang busters but he can utilize Ginn's speed with that arm.
Groves was a late first-round ... early to mid second round pick. He's right on course still.
Armando--- Who do you have as like a top 5 that the Fish are looking at for #32 right now...
I dont think Sea goes QB, with Merling and Bahlmer on the board, they have to go there.
Thank you kdee. Much appreciated.
Armando, keep up the GREAT work... kathleen has no clue as to the work you have done for us.
Thanks
By the way, Keyshawn Johnson needs somebody to dress him. And anybody wonder how come we haven't heard anything about him playing for the Dolphins?
Armando, I hope you are dressed better than Keyshawn right now, even if you are sitting on your couch. Striped suit, checkered shirt, dotted tie and a goldish hankie.
My top 5 Brohm, Balmer, Henne, Merling and Jackson. No way we go Jackson though
well we should consider givng up jt for a early 2nd now considering how many of the players we wanted are still on the board and looking like they will be there for us
Haha, Armando, we typed the same thing at the same time.
Great pick for the Titans
Titans pick East Carolina RB Chris Thomas who ran a 4.24 40 in the combine
wow, horrible pick there for tenn.
One of the 8 best remaining players will be a Dolphin.
chris johnson not thomas armando, will all due respect
If Henne is off the board, where do the Dolphins go? Jenkins @ Corner?
I think it fits perfectly what they needed for that offense. They do not have a game breaker other than Young, now they have one. He isnt going to be Darren McFadden but he is going to make teams respect run and rb pass in the flat on the third down. One of the LBs will have to focus on that kid and it will give VY more options.
good for the dolphins, how did tenn pass on limas sweed?? he and VY would be great together... brutal pick if im a titans fan. i would love to get two 2nds for JT instead of a 1st.
Cowboys might go with Jenkins.
Armando,
Do you think San Francisco will take Quentin Groves? I am hoping he becomes a Dolphin.
i agree limas sweed i believe is the best WR in the draft.. If im vince young im pissed
i kinda have a fetish for groves as well
Armando - don't you think Dallas would be a likely trade partner for JT? 2 picks in first round, continue the parcells-dallas pipeline, and chance to unite the ex-dolphin brothers-in-law: Taylor and Thomas
Could Fred Davis or Keller be the pick here? Hmmmm.
Mando, would you pass on henne if he was there?
By far the biggest upset this Draft....
My stomach looking at Keyshawn's shirt.
SWFlafan
What did Seattle get????
The rich get richer
Nice pick for the boys
Seattle got Dallas' other first and whatever else was thrown in.
Flowers to San Diego, I guess.
dallas trades up and pick CB Mike Jenkins. Yawn.
So much for JT to Dallas. Looks bad, folks, very bad so far for a first rounder.
Seattle got the 28th overall and a 5th and 7th.
Mando,
Brohm or Henne?
I like Brohm.
As long as we get a 2nd rounder for JT, I'll be happy.
Heck, as long as we get *anything* for JT I'll be happy.
"Anonymous said...
As long as we get a 2nd rounder for JT, I'll be happy.
Heck, as long as we get *anything* for JT I'll be happy."
Wow smart comment there buddy. I'm glad you put a lotta thought into that one
Well 5 picks to go and my top 5 still there for us: Brohm, Balmer, Henne, Merling and Jackson. Again Id fall out of my seat if we took Jackson though.
Lorenzo Booker traded to the Eagles for a 4th round pick!
WHAT! Why trade away Lorenzo Booker? He was so good.
Dolphins trade Lorenzo Booker
We traded Booker? That is awful
Mando I think we get a lot more for JT in September or early October than we do right now. Im not worried about the trade, its gonna happen and BP will get his first rounder for him. Lets go HEnne or Brohm at 32!!!!
The Chargers go with some OT I've never heard of. He is the eigtht offensive tackle to go in the first round. Amazing.
No UM player yet.
SWFlafan
I hate this trade. Booker was good.
Glad we wasted a 2nd last year on a guy that we traded for a 4th this year.
Lorenzo did not get traded. That would make no sense
Booker was a 3rd round pick
According to NFL net we did make the trade!
booker was traded.. first move by the fins i disagree with =/
Mando tell us thats a joke, a late April Fools day prank. There is no way a 4th for Booker makes sense.
Where did you see that Booker was traded?
Booker was a 3rd last year
The NFL network just reported it about 5 min. ago.
you trade booker a second rounder last year for a fourth this year, well phin fans here we go again. booker was going to be a reak good player.IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ARMANDO!!! HELP! Whats the deal on Booker? That has got to be wrong!
NFL Network is reporting the Dolphins have traded Lorenzo Booker to Philadelphia for a fourth round pick.
That means the Dolphins will draft a RB before this draft is over.
booker went to the eagles
BP must really like Hart from Michigan to deal Booker. Im guessing we take him in the third round tomorrow.
Booker was a third round last year, not a second. it's one of those things where Booker apparently doesn't have the Bill Parcells "makeup."
The new regime also doesn't like that Booker isn't much a real RB. He's a receiver out of the backfield at best.
But it still stinks based on the investment on him.
LOL HAHAHA Thats why you dont let a lame duck head coach draft!!!
Seahawks pick Lawrence Jackson a DE from USC. This is a huge surprise given the fact Seattle gets good pressure on the QB.
BP doesn't like small guys: no more Zack or Booker
This is looking better and better each pick. Its almost a lock we get Henne or Brohm now
3 teams stand in our way of our franchise QB
Who are we picking? Are we going for Brohm? Henne? What's the need?
wow we have a lot of good players to pick from.. a lot more then we expected i think
Good pick for the 49ers
SF pick Kentwan Balmer from North Carolina.
The Dolphins like Sims from Auburn as a NT, by the way.
If we are going with a QB, (and I still have faith in Beck), but if we're picking a Q, it has got to be Brohm.
If Merling goes here we got our QB Phin Fans!
Why do people like Henne and Brohm better than Beck? I would have liked Ryan or Flacco but Henne? Brohm? You'd be drafting Beck again.
I may be wrong, but I just don't think its a given that we're going with a Q
Uh oh...Jets are going to take a Q
Jets have just traded up back into the first round. Gotta believe they're going to take a QB.
Jets will take Brohm, BP likes Henne anyway
Jets trade up. For who? QB?
SWFlafan
I think Brohm is going off the board here.....Jets are playing KEEP AWAY today.
I know everyone wants a QB in the second round, but I think Groves is a better value.
i actually was thinking there was a worth chance that we would pick a qb... I dunno what everyones talking about...
BTW.. what are the jets cooking up, taking greenbays spot
i think we take henne in sec round due to hes use to long protecting his blind slide so there is a comfort zone there. booker no big loss there. bp knows what he is doing. then if we keep jt or trade him we need youth and picks. he has been having back probs for a couple yrs now. so no one is gonna give up a 1st round pick for a guy making 17 mill over next 2 yrs, is 34 and had issues with nagging injuries even though hes played through them.we can use the cap space and youth.
Hopefully GB raped the Jets for this trade up knowing how desperate they were for a QB.
The NY Jets....where good QB prospects go to die.
A tight end?
Fans in NY are chanting for Devin Thomas.....hmmmmm
I really hope the jets dont take limas sweed PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
The Jets have been crazy aggressive this offseason. Remember their free agent spending spree? And now they're adding TWO first round picks.
Take Henne because he's used to Long protecting his backside? No offense but that's the dumbest logic I've ever heard.
I hope we get Groves
Ill be shocked if this isnt Borhm here
TE??? Wow.....Jets fans are pissed.
The Jets pick Purdue TE Dustin Keller. Surprising. Oh well.
Forget Keyshawn's clothes.....I can not handle Deon....like nails on a chalk board..makes me throw up in my mouth a little bit
LOL THERE YOU GO JETS!!! HAHAHA
Wow...there is a treasure trove of players remaining on the board.....I bet BP is salivating right now
jason i dont think you have a clue what you are talking about or maybe your just talking out of your "lack of information".. I woulda put alott money on it that jets were taking a WR or yes dustin keller, not a QB.. that woulda been stupid
Hahahaha. Dustin Keller. He would have been there at the Jets spot anyway.
SWFlafan
Well in my opinion it is a lock that we go Henne or Brohm because the Giants wont take a QB so its going to be something elese unless they trade down. I think they go WR here though.
Giants on the clock. Best chance for the University of Miami to extend that streak ... but honestly, neither Kenny Phillips nor Calais Campbell are that good.
PLEASE DONT TAKE A QB PLEASE DONT TAKE A QB PLEASE DONT TAKE A QB............
I guess Sparano's "jumps off the tape" about booker didn't do much to enhance his trade value. Too bad they didn't include Feely :)
fins takelimas sweed wr texas orphilipmerling clemson or trade pick
tons of wide receivers left
Something tells me we're not going QB.....just a hunch....I think we will go defense....
...but still....the intrigue....Brohm is STILL on the board.....yikers
i agree doug.. Limas sweed would be a tempting pick.. i want him as well... Him or quentin groves
Stinking Larry Coker. The Canes just made it!
The U streak lives!
Kenny Phillips goes to the Gints. Amazing. They just love the U!
THE STREAK REMAINS!!!!!
SWFlafan
you guys really need to get over your qb in round 2 fascination. that would be sooo stupid
The Dolphins are now on the clock. Five minutes.
From the South Florida Fan Blog:
XM radio and FinHeaven have reports that a deal between the Fins and Bucs is a done deal. Apparently Tampa Bay is giving Miami the 2nd and 4th from this
year, and next year's 6th (probably a conditional).
Just a rumor, but it would be nice to get that much for him.
No way we take a qb here. Both of our QB's are better than these available, who would need time to develop anyway. Better wait and see how Beck shapes up, can worry about a QB in the next draft if necessary.
Brian Brohm is on the phone ... But apparently not.
It is NOT a QB apparently.
pick is in.....
WHO????
Guess Beck is our future
DE Phillip Merling from Clemson.
If that's not a clear indication they really want to trade JT, I don't know what is.
Merling had some sort of abdominal hernia. He had surgery in march.
At least Dion is leaving the set. Thank God!
Merling had both testacles removed to. Lame pick. Very lame.
Nice Pick, best avail defender
they just rattled off a list of names of guys who've had hernia surgery......I don't think it matters
Keyshawn Johnson said that this pick sends a message to Taylor.
"Message sent," he said.
Duh.
Merling will take the place of Roth on the DL.. JT will still be OLB
Ok for the record, I had Merling in my top 5 going into the pick so I am not pissed. I think he was the best D Lineman there so Im happy we got him but we better freakin trade up and grab Henne or Brohm!!!!!
I dont believe they didnt take Quentin groves, I think I may finally just GIVE UP!
Merling over Groves? what the *&%$?! Best speed rusher in the draft and we pass him up
Quality pick merling 18 th best player in pro football weekly, armando i love the gints the streak continues. apparently there was a reason booker wasnt on field last yr for fins
you know KC will go QB
I dont think there was any message here...they picked a LT, they needed a DE....Merling was rated in Round 1 on lots of boards. He looks a little soft to me, but he was productive, has good size, and the experts liked him...so, now to get a CB, and Brohm?
Wow, maybe they slip again, but Ill be surprised.
Armando,
is there ANY chance we trade up to pickup Groves?
please...im holding on by a very thin edge here
Merling just said on a conference call that he could practice this week if he had to. That is how healthy he says he is.
He said patterned his game after, you guessed it, Jason Taylor.
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