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Wednesday, April 23, 2008

Taylor wants to play in 2008 but 2009 another story


On April 1, website profootballtalk.com celebrated the foolishness of the day by posting a spoof basically saying Jason Taylor was retiring from football because he had been bitten by the show business bug and wanted to devote his life to dance.

Within hours of the post, several Dolphins players, who apparently think everything the site posts is gospel, were either calling Taylor or sending text messages seeking confirmation of the so-called news.

Taylor eventually answered saying the “rumor mill” post was not true – what a shock – and he had every intention of playing in 2008.

BUT…

In those very responses Taylor also told his teammates and friends that he could not and would not guarantee playing in 2009, which is scheduled to be the final year of his current contract.

Taylor, you see, has every intention of going into show business very soon. He has been pleasantly surprised by his ongoing success on Dancing with the Stars. His cha-cha was rewarded with another week of life on the show Tuesday night. He believes he's gotten more attention and will have more business opportunities based on that show's run than he got all these past years as a Dolphin.

Taylor’s intentions to seek Hollywood movie or TV fame are not new. What is new is the shifting of his priorities between football and show business.

After the 2006 season, Taylor turned down a show business opportunity because the Dolphins had a new coach coming in – again – and he decided participating in the team’s voluntary offseason program and pleasing Cam Cameron was more important than pursuing the opportunity.

Taylor and his agent Gary Wichard, who along with Taylor dislikes Cam Cameron, regretted that decision.

So when Dancing was offered this offseason, Wichard worked to convince Taylor to take it even though it meant missing the offseason program instituted by Bill Parcells and Tony Sparano, regardless of how it made the new guys feel.

This is not to suggest football is no longer important to Taylor. But it should clearly show that show business is growing in importance for Taylor.

He has told teammates he will try for and audition, if he must, for every reality television and movie role that seems attainable. He hopes that won’t interfere with football. But if it does as the 2009 season draws close, show business may win out over football.

And that brings us to this weekend.

The Dolphins now have a player who will be 34 years old in September. He is on the roster but not on the field with his teammates during the current offseason program. Coach Tony Sparano has been publicly supportive of Taylor’s dancing.

But Bill Parcells has got to be seething privately.

How else would tough guy Parcells view that one player is skipping Miami’s workout program, lifting absolutely no free weights as Parcells wants his players to do, and is instead dancing six to eight hours a day?

Does that sound like a Parcells player to you?

For that reason and the short shelf life I have outlined above, I believe the Dolphins will not only listen to trade offers for Taylor this weekend, but actively seek them. I agree with NFL Network analyst Adam Schefter who today said he thinks it is better than 50-50 that Miami trades Taylor.

The price will not be cheap. After the Jared Allen trade set the market pretty high for a pass-rusher, I think the Dolphins would trade Taylor for a pick anywhere between No. 26 and No. 45ish. I know Parcells has vowed not to trade Taylor. But things change.

And based on the fact the player would rather play on a contender than the Dolphins -- which was reported by me March 10 -- and based on the fact Taylor is not certain about playing at all in 2009, trading him would certainly be the wise thing to do.

47 Comments:

Anonymous The Greg said...

Let me start this by saying I LOVE JT! If you're a Dolphin fan, how can you not??? But having said that, I understand he MUST be traded. As much as it hurts to say it, he's an "arrow-down" guy right now. We're rebuilding, we need "arrow-up" guys only. I would be ecstatic if we could get a 1st or even 2nd round pick for him.

The other interesting possibility that I've considered recently would be a straight up trade for Jeremy Shockey. You know he loves MIA, so you'd have to imagine he would welcome that trade. But do we want that personality and will it fit in with the new regime's ideals... I dunno. I mean, I don't think its a coincidence that Eli became a bad-ass right when Shockey got injured. But its a possibility. I'd give it a shot...

10:08 AM  
Anonymous southflaboy said...

I'm second! I say once a guy starts thinking about his retirement, he's pretty much already retired. Get rid of him!

10:17 AM  
Anonymous Nick B said...

I understand how you feel, but this guy is still one of the premiere defensive players in the league, easily the best on our team. I think we should keep him and hope our improvement next season inspires him to want to stick around and win that Championship. Although I wouldn't be surprised if we traded him, I'm for keeping him. I dreaded the day we traded Patrick Surtain (the year after I bought a customized jersey of his!). JT in a pure 3-4 scheme will thrive, and it's not far fetched to believe he can be the DPY again next season.

10:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1. Shockey for Taylor makes little sense, we lose easily on the deal as Shockey is overrated and injury prone.

2. Taylor MUST be traded. Give the guy a chance to be on a winner, let us stockpile picks (9 already)

3. Jared Allen set the market for 26 year old pass rushers but NOT 34year old veterans. Regardless of JT's past, he will play 2 more years max, and Allen will play for another 5-7.

Apples to Oranges

10:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lawrence Taylor spent most of training camp and the preseason on the golf course while Parcells was the coach of the Giants. In the offseason, he was often taking illegal drugs (cocaine) and getting himself into trouble. That lifestyle and poor conditioning may have robbed the Giants of more productive seasons from the LB.

Lawrence Taylor sure doesn't sound like a Parcells player to me.

Except when he's making game changing plays.

10:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DID ANYONE WATCH MICHAEL STRAHAN LAST YEAR? HE'S OLDER AND HEAVIER WITH MORE WEAR ON THE KNEES, HE WAS PLAYING WHEN LAWRENCE TAYLOR WAS IN THE LEAGUE! JASON TAYLOR IS VERY LEAN AND THE DANCING (6+ HOURS A DAY) IS ONLY GOING TO MAKE HIM MORE FIT. HE PLAYS LIKE A 29 YEAR OLD. STRAHAN WAS A BEAST LAST YEAR AND JASON IS YOUNGER, HEALTHIER AND LIGHTER. OUR SPECIAL TEAMS HAS BEEN STOCK-LOADED WITH SPECIAL TEAM STANDOUTS, OUR O-LINE WILL BE VERY YOUNG AND ATHLETIC, RONNIE BROWN AND RICKY WILL HAVE BIGGER HOLES (LOOK HOW GOOD RONNIE WAS LAST YEAR) AND LORENZO BOOKER IS OUR BABY BRIAN WESTBROOK. WE HAVE THE CZAR BILL PARCELLS AND A GREAT COACH IN TONY WHO WILL OVERHAUL THE DEFENSE TO MAKE IT BIGGER AND MORE AGGRESSIVE AND WITH OUR SOFT SCHEDULE WE COULD BE LOOKING AT 7-9 OR 8-8. THE DAYS OF BEING IN THE BASEMENT FOR 4 OR 5 YEARS IS GONE. LOOK AT THE BROWNS AND THE JUMP THEY MADE LAST YEAR TO PLAYOFF CONTENTION, THE GREEN BAY PACKERS WENT TO THE NFC CHAMPIONSHIP FOR CHRIST SAKE! THE LINE BETWEEN GOING 1-15 ONE YEAR TO 9-7 THE NEXT IS RAZOR THIN NOWADAYS. YOU PEOPLE WHO THINK WE ARE GOING TO BE 3-13, THEN THE NEXT YEAR 5-11, THEN 6-10 GRADUALLY GETTING BETTER ARE WRONG. THE TURN AROUND AND THE SHIFTING OF POWER IN THE NFL IS SOO QUICK NOW. TRADING JASON TAYLOR WOULD GIVE US A NICE PICK, PROBABLY MID-LATE 2ND RD, BUT I FEEL EVEN IF WE ONLY HAVE 2 SEASONS TOPS WITH HIM, HE IS STILL A TOP 5 PASS RUSHER IN THE LEAGUE AND IF WE ARE FIGHTING FOR A WILD CARD IN 2 YEARS WICH IS TOTALLY A POSSIBILITY ( WE LOST 6 GAMES BY A FIELD GOAL LAST YEAR AND COULD HAVE BEEN 6-10ISH) THEN MAYBE THE COMPETITOR IN TAYLOR WILL MAKE HIM STAY AN EXTRA YEAR OR TWO. HE MAYBE 34 BUT HE PLAYS LIKE HE'S 29-30 AND PHYSICALLY. I JUST SAW STRAHAN LAST YEAR (AS CLOSE AS HE WAS TO RETIRING) AND THE YEAR HE HAD AND JASON IS YOUNGER AND SOOO MUCH BETTER IN SHAPE (BRUCE SMITH PLAYED FOR 18+ SEASONS AT DE! AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD TRADE SOMEONE WHO IS SOO VALUABLE TO OUR DEFENSE. IF WE TRADE HIM, HE WILL BREAK STRAHAN'S SACK RECORD IN ANOTHER JERSEY AND END UP PROLONGING HIS CAREER ANOTHER 3-4 VERY PRODUCTIVE YEARS (LIKE REGGIE WHITE)WATCH! BELIEVE ME, I KNOW HOW ENTICING THAT 2ND RD PICK FOR HIM IS BUT JASON TAYLOR IS ONE OF THOSE GUYS YOU KEEP.

sonny crockett

11:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

With any luck Taylor will tell Parcells right before the draft that he is retiring. Maybe big Jake can play DE also.

11:30 AM  
Blogger Hal said...

Jacksonville seems to make the most sense. They are in "win now" mode and have extra third and fifth rounders.

Would be great, IMO, if we could get # 71 and # 143 overall (the latter recouping the 5th rounder Cam stupidly sent away last year) and swap the 26th and 32nd picks. That seems like the most realistic scenario.

11:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Calais Campbell at #32 anyone?

11:47 AM  
Anonymous The dude said...

Maybe mix in some non-caps lock words.

12:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dude, i know you have a job to do but articles like this that you post only prevent the chance of a team giving us anything meaningful for JT. His play warrants a late first round pick for a contending team, no question. But after reading he may only play ONE MORE YEAR...why would any team give up anything? 2-3 years, no prob...that is your best case scenario anyway, but if i'm a team, i want some guarantee he's not headed to La La land to be the next Rock. I'm just hoping nobody in the NFL reads your blog and we get anything from a late 2nd and above for the guy.

12:08 PM  
Anonymous MartinK said...

We may want to trade JT - thanks for the scoop! And, as echoed before, comparing Jared Allen's trade/deal to what teams will give for JT is just plain dumb. You posting the comments about his lack of commitment for the '09 season certainly won't help increase his trade value. Armando - sorry for the profanity in yesterday's post (sh*t).

12:08 PM  
Anonymous the greg said...

Apparently he is being shopped as we speak:

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10793661

mid-to-late 1st round = AWESOME! I hope they get a bite.

Speaking of profootballtalk.com, he writes that he doesn't think a deal will go down until draft day and presents some good reasoning. I guess we'll see...

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/fins-shopping-taylor/

12:09 PM  
Anonymous NeilVA said...

I think this is his way of saying TRADE me. Get rid of him. IT's time to get younger. If we can really get what Mando has said we want for him then pull the trigger.

12:33 PM  
Anonymous Jon said...

Trade him straight up for Lito Sheppard. Though JT might retire half way through the season after being verbaly thrashed by Philly fans every Sunday

12:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm dissapointed in Taylor for either being stoopid or not giving a shi t in letting his feelings get out to parasites like you or those who will tell parasites like you, who don't care that this kind of a report only hampers the ability of the Dolphins to Max out his trade value.
No wonder Parcells is such a stickler on letting as little get out to the press as possible. And no wonder the Dolphins have been so unsuccessful the last several years you and others like you have reported every valuable team secret you can manage to unearth.

1:03 PM  
Anonymous NCFINFAN said...

Doesnt the fact that Taylor himself is not sure that he wants to play in 09 actually hurt our chances to trade him? Unless New England wants him? New England seems to like trading for guys with 1 year contracts. I hope like hell he does not go to the 'ding dang' Patriots.

1:56 PM  
Anonymous NCFINFAN said...

I would send Taylor to Cincinnati for 'ocho cinco' if I could make that work!!!!!!

1:59 PM  
Blogger Chris said...

Armando, it all comes down to value. If another team isn't willing to give Parcells a first rounder or high second (as you have suggested) a trade won't happen.

The days of free giveaways (see Ogunleye, Adewale) are OVER.

I'll even go one further with you with regards to 2009. If the Dolphins enjoy some decent success this season, it will lighten JT's mood and that $8M he's scheduled to earn in 2009 will look even better in contrast to the entry-level contracts he'll have to put up with in Hollywood.

Remember, Hollywood isn't going anywhere and football season is only a mandatory six month affair. It is better for JT to ease into the lifestyle rather than forfeit $8M to go in full time a year early.

As for Parcells allegedly seething, that's too bad (if true). He'll get over it once he's sees JT in the flesh and the incredible shape he'll be in when he arrives. I'll wager that there won't be a better conditioned athlete on that team than JT.

3:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

*Puffs out chest* "That I (ME, THE MAN, THE ONE, THE ONLY, SUPER ARMANDOOOOO!!!) reported on March 10.

Your jack-assery knows no bounds.

Mark W.

3:55 PM  
Blogger Antonio said...

Armando, not a knock against you, but something about post like these and the comments of the readers irk me. 1st, we have all of these calls for a JT trade. One poster even went as far as to say he was dissappointed in JT, for letting the info get out.... Dissappointed in JT??? Trade JT???? what has JT said to the press officially other than he loves being a Dolphin and that he wants to play for the Dolphins? Sure one might mention the fact that he is doing the dancing gig, But his employer has openly, publicly, freely, clearly, ummistakeably (get the drift)... stated that he supports what he is doing. Casting for the show may have been Well prior to the naming of the new regime. And while it may make an ounce or two of sense to trade him for a bit of value, Why is it so wrong to let a capable player (great player) play out his contract, and retire? I mean, what is so wrong with that?
these posts explore hypotheticals to no end when nothing the team or the player syas is in line with what the media reports. I mean by reading the comments you post, I would be led to believe that JT is worse than Chad johnson. I mean, at least he has the balls to just say, "trade me!!!". I respect that JT handles this with class and believe he can be afforded the benefit of the doubt when it comes to all this speculation.

4:12 PM  
Blogger Armando Salguero said...

Mark W if your panties are in a bunch because I remind everyone what I've written in the past on this blog, then start your own Dolphins blog and write it the way you see fit.

4:21 PM  
Anonymous MartinK said...

Armando,
Will you be posting the players you think we'll target for the rest of our picks? Thanks.

4:27 PM  
Blogger Armando Salguero said...

Yes. I will do that Friday MartinK. Thanks.

4:52 PM  
Blogger Arturo said...

Hey anonymous and the rest that to much stock in a blog, pleaaaaaaaase, as if Parcells or any other NFL teams executives will be souring the papers to see what dumb fans say about this or that player. Come on, grow up. We can definitely be assured that Parcells will do whatever is best for the Dolphins, so, stop crying about the blog, if you feel like that don't read it. What an ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

5:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Mark W...
Leave poor Armando (Mr. "I")alone. He has some insecurity issues. I mean if he didn't tell you all of the things he has told you, how would you ever know or remember? I am with you though. I have never read the word "I", so many times from one reporter as I have when I read Armandos posts... But, let's not talk about it, it will give the poor guy a complex.

5:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

armando is a terrible block guy

5:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kinda hard to believe right now. But Taylor has to look after Taylor. He ain't gonna make this kinda money playing in movies. The starlets are filling his head with hooey.

But, if they can get a good return for him, cya Jason. We aren't going to win a Super Bowl anyway (at least this year) so why not benefit with a young gun playing his position.

Does he really fit in with Parcells football? He is fast but he doesn't smash a lot of mouths and I also noticed he likes to help people that he knocks down back up wasting his energy and saving theirs.

Becoming best of friends with Brady? Helping Brady up after they ran up the score? Give me a break. Screw Brady and New England. They sure didn't go easy on our guys.

Kevin in Halifax

6:46 PM  
Anonymous ceed said...

We'll end up trading him for a mid 1st rounder on draft day so some team that missed out on the player they wanted. We'll then probably pick Quentin Groves. I've also heard we could look at Flacco or Henne with the 32nd overall. If Brohm falls, is there a chance we could go after him? He's by far the best quarterback in this draft and gets no respect while Matt Ryan (who's very overrated) gets all the attention.

7:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I read all these comments and wonder why many of you read Armando's blog. Many of you complain and take cheap shots.

Armando does a great job on this beat. How is he rewarded? By shots at his sexuality, his intelligence and his self-esteem. Give it a break. It gets old. Read and appreciate the work, or move on.

Plus, Armando is tougher than many of you may realize. I hear he once slapped someone twice during a basketball game. I only wish I was there to see those slaps.

8:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know about the basketball game, but I do know he onced decked a guy at a club in Fort Lauderdale after the guy head-butted him. My boy Mando shook it off like it was nothing and kicked the guy's ass. I know because I was bouncing when he did it and helped break things up.

8:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AS much as I love JT, too, all this talk is nonsense becasue he isn't going anywhere. I'd like to see him stay, in spit of his poor play last year. I continually saw him rush upfield and get blocked out the play. He was too slow to run plays down from behind. He doesn't have the skills he used to have. I wouldn't be upset if he were gone, be he would likely be better than anyone we could plug for the next two years.

Dan in Naples

9:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Armando: Kindly refrain from chastising your audience with comments that denigrate women. The pejorative phrase referring to women's undergarments was not essential and repellent. And glorifying violence against other human beings is a poor example to set for the young people who are reading this forum. Also, in your original post, you write, "He (Taylor) believes he's gotten more attention and will have more business opportunities based on that show's run than he got all these past years as a Dolphin." To correct, "he's" is a contraction for "he is," not "he has" as you intended. You should have written, "He believes he HAS gotten more attention ... " Also, examine your sentence construction, you are using the same verb (to get, got, gotten) twice in one statement. Finally, this paragraph features the phrase, "you see;" your conversational style is interrupting the clear communication of the subject. I understand this post may seem pedantic to some readers and I apologize for interrupting the rhythm of the conversation.

Cheers, Madge Beauchamp

P.S., for MartinK: Your entry on Saturday night was clever; somewhat derivative but nonetheless a solid effort, and certainly the highlight of the exchange that evening.

11:23 PM  
Anonymous Chase said...

To Anonymous of the post right before mine...

Apology not accepted....

11:36 PM  
Anonymous Chase said...

To Anonymous of the post right before mine...

Apology not accepted....

11:36 PM  
Blogger Armando Salguero said...

Madge: In no way do I glorify violence against anyone. So kindly refrain from getting your panties in a bunch over the issue.

11:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am ammused. A coule of years ago a certain Dolphin's coach denied rumors he would leave Miami to return to the college coaching ranks. He was, by both fans and media, referred to as a liar, coward and a list of expletives I won't write here.

Then there's Ricky Williams who "retired" from football when all along he was smoking pot and got caught yet again. The press, particularly, have been all over him since.

Now we have the mighty Parcell's who made it clear that Taylor was not going to be traded right before the draft as was reported in yahoo sports. I haven't haerd a peep from fans or press about this lie, except to accept it as an inevitability.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander...or is the media ignoring this behavior in the hopes to become "imbedded" with the new regimn?

ajdicesare

Very ammused. And a little bit annoyed. Integrity anyone?

12:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Armando, do you know what happened to my post? I was the first to post in here today and it is gone. Not even an "this post has been removed by the....". I didn't use profanity so I'm wondering what happened. I want to continue to post but if they are being removed for no reason I don't want to waste my time ya know? NYScott

1:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now that Jake Long has signed a contract w/the Dolphins, are the Dolphins required to use their first pick on Jake Long?

4:26 AM  
Anonymous Jason "Twinkletoes" Taylor said...

Look guys, I'm not going anywhere....I love Miami and I will honor my contract. I cannot wait to do the Twinkletoes Taylor jig over Tom Brady's limp body after I deliver a bone-crushing sack.

After last season, I was disillusioned. Cam Cameron was a joke and losing week in and week out can definitely take the win out one's sails.

I'm going to be a GREAT actor someday. (Didn't you witness my acting chops in the film Jackass 2?) I've got two more years to wreak havoc in the AFC East and I plan to continue.

Please quit wasting your breaths, expensive newsprint and paper, and cyberspace with all this hearsay about where I'm going.

JT, #99 is here to STAY!!!! Fin for LIFE!! Woooooooooo

9:37 AM  
Blogger Armando Salguero said...

NYscott: I have not erased any of your posts -- probably ever.

2:27 PM  
Blogger Steve said...

tfdwptGuys.... Just one thought on trading Jason Taylor, that maybe you haven't thought about. Think about who we just drafted. I’m ok if we get a 1st round pick out of him, fine. But anything less, and I would keep him & let him & Jake battle until September. Think of what he would do for the kid. Jason will get the Jake ready for battle. Something to think about.

12:00 AM  
Anonymous Brett said...

Armando -
I enjoy this blog and do feel that you usually bring some valuable insight regarding the Dolphins. However, I can't let your response to Mark W go unaddressed. His point, which several have made in the past, is that your constant, almost chilidish need to trumpet your previous reports that have been fortunate enough to have even the smallest shred of accuracy is just plain arrogant.
First, are you really that insecure? I can't think of any other local sportswriters that do this at all, much less to the degree you do. I know I have never seen Omar Kelly resort to such nonsense, even when he has been on the mark much more often than yourself. If this blog is truly the most read (as you've also reminded us countless times), then why the insecurity?
Second, any Dolphins fan (of which I am for over 30 yrs) who has been watching this team the past few seasons KNOWS that JT would rather play for a contender. Who wouldn't? Is this really news? And you're patting yourself on the back for reporting THAT? Well BRAVO to you. I think that is one of the reasons Dolphins fans give him as much respect as we do - because he has put up with the nonsense that has gone on here the past decade and hasn't complained once.
Finally, to suggest that Mark go and start his own blog is just plain silly. That is not his, or our, job - it is yours. If you are this sensitive to criticism, then why allow anyone to comment in the first place? Simply put - deal wih it.

9:25 AM  
Blogger Armando Salguero said...

Brett: I can't let your response to me go unaddressed. And here is my answer: NUTS!

11:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I believe there is an "unspoken" chance that Taylor will be traded during the latter half of the first round. In fact, it will likely be utilized as the Dolphins' next method to gain another "framework" player as a secondary first round pick. Note that Jake Long addressed one of the more critical needs on the offensive side, which is the necessities of an effective block. It is likely that the Dolphins will open their eyes to similar prospects, but the next pick may be a defensive player.

It's very unlikely, but I still harbor the deep feeling that we have "written away" the prospects of a Jason Taylor trade in exchange for Chris Long. Should we really place so much confidence into the current draft predictions and Parcells himself? The draft is notoriously unpredictable for all NFL franchises, especially in this climate. The cunning Parcells is likely searching for someone who is different than several possibilities listed here. I could see a persuasive Parcells reeling Chris Long from another team via a Taylor trade. Jason Taylor and Parcells have not revealed their true thoughts, so the continuous anti-trade talk may be incorrect in the end.

A trade would only benefit Parcells' objectives and the franchise over the long haul. Parcells is seeking the maximum quality despite overwhelming odds. If you don't realize that is the case, you have probably not analyzed Parcells' attitude and behavior.

In a nutshell, the Dolphins will likely make an unexpected move tomorrow. You can never completely dismiss anything, especially when you consider the great uncertainties. The draft is volatile.

I suspect that tomorrow may bring some significant surprises for Dolfans, but it will be positive for us. Let's remain alert for the prospects of Chris Long joining this franchise. Regardless, Taylor is likely on the chopping block.

6:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Armando,

I once valued your insights. Now you toss us the same old trash constantly and try to tell us how smart you are. Its really very sad. Please find a real story to write about. Your made-up nonsense may sell papers but it doesn't tell the fans who deserve better anything useful.

Mike in Denver

8:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Armando Salguero said...

Brett: I can't let your response to me go undressed. And here is my answer to what are my favorite parts of a man: NUTS!

10:43 PM  

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