Live blogging from Philly (cheese steak) today
PHILADELPHIA -- John Beck's NFL debut will come on a cold and overcast day in this historic city.
The Beck clan is here. His father, mother, son and wife -- yes, only one wife wiseguys -- are in attendance for this one.
And while most of you will have eyes glued on Beck's performance, I suggest you also make an effort to watch the play of Jason Allen and Cameron Worrell as well.
Allen has had a successful first two games as the new starter at strong safety. Worrell, meanwhile, has recovered from the New England debacle that exposed him as a special teams player impersonating as a safety.
But perhaps circumstance as much as ability is the reason both have been OK the past two games.
Against the Giants, the safeties were not exposed because New York didn't try to throw the ball deep in a driving rain. Last week against Buffalo, the safeties faced a quarterback who didn't look deep all game long. And you must admit, J.P. Losman doesn't exactly strike fear in the hearts of opposing secondaries.
But today Miami's secondary and the safeties in particular face a veteran quarterback in Donovan McNabb who can pick the weak link of a defense as well as anyone. If he goes after Allen and Worrell, it will be interesting to see if they're up to the task.
The Dolphins don't have a third quarterback designated for today. The inactives are Kerry Reed, Samkon Gado, Jereme Perry, Tuff Harris, Zach Thomas, Anthony Bryant, Rob Ninkowvich and Matt Roth.
Derrick Pope starts in the middle for Thomas and Rod Wright starts at defensive end for Matt Roth.
And finally this: FOX studio analyst Howie Long on comparing Pacman Jones and Ricky Williams and how one was reinstated this week and the other was not: "Ricky doesn't hurt anyone. The only way Ricky hurts people is with second-hand smoke."
The Beck clan is here. His father, mother, son and wife -- yes, only one wife wiseguys -- are in attendance for this one.
And while most of you will have eyes glued on Beck's performance, I suggest you also make an effort to watch the play of Jason Allen and Cameron Worrell as well.
Allen has had a successful first two games as the new starter at strong safety. Worrell, meanwhile, has recovered from the New England debacle that exposed him as a special teams player impersonating as a safety.
But perhaps circumstance as much as ability is the reason both have been OK the past two games.
Against the Giants, the safeties were not exposed because New York didn't try to throw the ball deep in a driving rain. Last week against Buffalo, the safeties faced a quarterback who didn't look deep all game long. And you must admit, J.P. Losman doesn't exactly strike fear in the hearts of opposing secondaries.
But today Miami's secondary and the safeties in particular face a veteran quarterback in Donovan McNabb who can pick the weak link of a defense as well as anyone. If he goes after Allen and Worrell, it will be interesting to see if they're up to the task.
The Dolphins don't have a third quarterback designated for today. The inactives are Kerry Reed, Samkon Gado, Jereme Perry, Tuff Harris, Zach Thomas, Anthony Bryant, Rob Ninkowvich and Matt Roth.
Derrick Pope starts in the middle for Thomas and Rod Wright starts at defensive end for Matt Roth.
And finally this: FOX studio analyst Howie Long on comparing Pacman Jones and Ricky Williams and how one was reinstated this week and the other was not: "Ricky doesn't hurt anyone. The only way Ricky hurts people is with second-hand smoke."
posted by Armando Salguero at 11:19 AM
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C'mon Dolphins!, pop philly in the mouth, they act tuff but when you hit back they get soft, gotta come in here with a that swagger baby, no jevon kearse today and the local media here is treating this like a charity game!
Come on, give us a W one time!!
Anyone know if this is gonna be on SOPCAST or TVU?
FYI Armando, Howie Long is on Fox's pre-game show. You know that network, the home of your man-crush Sean Hannity; Fix News, Fox Noise
hey marc,
i dont see it anywhere on the schedule!
anyone know where we can see the game?
Thanx in advance!
GO FINS!!
Not that it matters much, but during warmups, Marty Booker just dropped a pass.
Anon: Thanks about Long. I corrected it already, but I'm having some computer issues at this site.
I posted this on an article, but I thought I'd give you guys a chance to blast me here too...
Today is Dolphins Day
Are you ready for the show?
It's time to bring our game
Let's get the ball and go
We take the field for you
Ready for a fight
And when it's said and done
We fought with all our might
Playing on the field in your great name
Is what we do
Now, let's go win the game
We won't quit until it's through
Today is Dolphins Day
Are you ready for the show?
When we have the ball
Run for the goal. Let's go
It's time to build a wave
Let's go make our stand
And when we play our best
The end zone is where we land
Today is Dolphins Day
Are you ready for the show?
It's time to bring our game
Let's get the ball and go
Today is Dolphins Day
Are you ready for the show?
When we have the ball
Run for the goal. Let's go
Today is Dolphins Day
(repeat as desired)
Yes, this is really me.
Drumfinfan: You posted your poem on Jeff Darlington's story today and he was ripping your poetic ability. He said the poem is awful. All I can tell you is Robert Frost ain't worried.
Dolphins come out in running formation and go with the run. Makes sense. Expect a lot of that early.
Run on second down. By the way, the Dolphins didn't start four rookies today, only three.
Blitz on third down. Not quite accurate on that first throw. Beck was not comfortable on that.
Good news, sopcast link just came up for the eagles/fins, tuning in now from abroad...
No worries Armando. I wrote it for me and decided to share it. I saw a couple of positive posts as well, so I can live with the effort.
Go Dolphins!!!
(I suppose I deserved that after some of the things I've said about you, so fair enough)
I understand the Dolphins are going to protect Beck by trying to run the ball. but if they're going to be passing only on passing downs, that is a recipe for failure.
Eagles playing it conservative early also.
What channel was that?
Dolphins blitz on third and 8. Will Allen defending. He has been GREAt the past two games.
what sopcast channgel are we on???
Drum: Take it for what it's worth. I'm just messing with you, brother.
Dolphins in I formation on first down, so they run. Too predictable.
Likewise, my friend. All good... My feelings weren't hurt (too bad). ;-)
Oh, and thanks if you had a hand in removing those posts yesterday.
Man, I hate not seeing this game.
Beck to Ginn on second down. How many times will we hear that combination are teaming up in the next five years or so?
Blitz on third down. Beck took a shot as he threw the ball. He is 1 of 3.
give it up drumfinfag, you are clogging the blog with silly juvenile dung.
Punt almost blocked if not tipped.
I suppose we all know who posted that gem. Hey k. Not ready to grow up yet, huh? That's a shame.
Okay, Beck fans . . . I ain't impressed yet!
First down completion on a square in. Not long before McNabb attacks the safeties, I predict.
who's k.?
Whew! Thank you, L.J. Smith!!! That was a close one!
Oh my god!!!!
Penalty against the team against Miami
I can't believe it!!!!
Jason Allen bit on the flea flicker. Got lucky it was a penalty.
After that flea flicker, Will Allen was motioning and gesturing to Allen to keep his eyes on the receivers instead of the backfield.
those who think u can put any rookie QB in the pro bowl after 3 passes . give the guy a chance!!
I hate running quarterbacks
They get the Dolphins everytime
2nd and 22 . . . and the QB SCRAMBLES for a first down! I just don't know what to say about this team. Who wouldn't expect Donovan McNabb to run the football!?
Allen reads McNabb's eyes as the QB was trying to victimize him again. I really believe this matchup will go a long way in determining who wins this game.
Jason Allen!!!!!
Are you kidding me
Great job, Jason Allen!!! Make us take the word "bust" out of our vocabularly where you're concerned!!
Got to run the ball deep out of your own territory. That includes third down, by the way.
That throw, conservative as it is, is still gambling with disaster.
Not a Dolphin comment, but dang Vinny T still has the goods
Great mobility shown by Beck on a 3 yard run. Good job.
Armando,
It looks as though Allen maybe getting better and better as the games go on, another Cameron mismanagement as far as talent is concerned?
Mando, you don't want them playing with fear do you? If they ran there would you say they were too predictable?
Run the ball. Run the Ball. Run the ball. Why can I figure this out and Cam Cameron cannot?
All I'm saying is that with your back to the goal line, you run the ball. Pass later when field position is better.
It appears as though Cameron is hitting the panic button like Saban did, abandon the run early
Wobbler on third down, but glad to see Beck is looking for Ginn -- something Cleo Lemon didn't do nearly enough.
Beck to Ginn again. Dropped the ball over a LB. Very nice.
nice pass beck! good zip, accurate
Chatman busting wide for 17 yards. By the way, don't expect to see Ricky Williams start ahead of Chatman when he finally begins to play. That will not happen.
Is it me or does Fat Chatman runs off balance all the time, he is always falling down.
Wow! Beck has something to show - good footwork for the rookie - accurate passing - the incompletes were only because he was nervous. This is giving me something to hope for...could we have found a qb? Its way to early to tell but as a suffering Dolfan I so hope he's for real!
What I can see is Ricky carrying the ball instead of Patrick Cobbs.
Beck seems to be settling down a bit, love seeing Ginn/Beck passes!
Like that formation. Spread the defense out with three receivers then run. The Buffalo Bills of the early 1990s diced up a lot of defenses with that look.
Plus they can put Ricky and Chat in together and send Ricky out for passes.
Beck throws the ball to Derek but Lito Sheppard jumped the route and had the ball in his hands. he dropped the interception.
The rain and wind knocks down Jay Feely's kick for only his second miss this season. Still scoreless.
Crummy conditions for Beck's start, on the road, Eagles staduim and raining. Oh yeah 40F and windy :P
Ok this is killing me, is there no sopcast today
Why not go for it on 4th down? You're not gonna make that field goal in the wind. An int. is just as good as a good punt. May as well try for it . . . we're 0-9 for God's sake!
Miamis plays are to predictable. They need to let Beck pass on 1st down and set the run up, not the other way around or Philly is going to get to Beck.
so much for having a northeast kicker :(
Dolphins need to get some pressure from the DL. Eagles, meanwhile, need to run the ball.
Ginn TD. Made first gtuy missed then hit the hole. All of a suddent that pick is starting to pay dividends, ain't it?
defense is showing up, come on offense
Holy cow no flags!!
right on Ginn
TDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
GINNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Ah the talent at Miami that once was:
Antrell Rolle 55 yard pick six of Carson Palmer
Andre Johnson 73 yard TD reception
FINALLY, FINALLY, FINALLY!!! NO FLAGS!!! TOUCHDOWN, GINN!!! This is good sign, my friends!!
TD - ginn returns a punt!!!!!
someone show this on SOPCAST!!!
go fins
Vienna fan
Umm, did Teddy just return a punt for a TD???
Finally! NO FLAGS!!!!
I don't want to hear ANY more negative comments about GINN ANYMORE!!!
~JinVA
I cant remember the last time the Dolphins had a kick or punt return for a TD? Anyone know???
THE TEDDIE GINN SHOW IS IN TOWN < TICKETS ON SALE NOW!!!
if its not to much to ask, can anyone viewing this game on the internet post the the link??
I want to see BECK & GINN!
Thanks in advance
FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!
I was more excited there were no flags on that return.
Ginn and Beck.....what took Cam so long!!!!!!
Any complaints about Ginn NOW????
Two kickoffs returned for a touchdown in two consecutive weeks. This time, no penalty to call it back.
remember when everyone booed on draft day, go to youtube if you feel nostalgic!, just like when they booed mcnabb here in philly, you idiots, do you still want quinn! got it feels good to shut the haters up!!!
Mwhahahaa to all you Ginn haters!
hurrrray! You guys were too hard on Ginn. The guy just needed a little time to develop. His returns are really starting to come on!
87 yard TD, ties for longest in Phins history!
Just saw highlight on cbs, think they said first punt return for td since 2000
There is youth with talent in dolphin land?? WOW
I am looking forward to all the haters on the Herald message board later!
Derek Hagan will score two touchdown today.
It was only a matter of time before the Eagles ran the ball against one of the worst run defenses in the NFL. Westbrook for 36 yards.
where are the ginn haters, quinn lovers now, right on Teddy Ginn you just shut the haters up
Crowder come on man, make that play
Cornerback blitz by Lehan run right into Westbrook for minus 4.
Grandma Ginn had a great block on that return.
Damn Jason Allen...ha ha.
ALLEN interception his second WOWO!
Allen Oh my word
McNabb just throws ball away but Allen's speed closed well enough that he caught up with the throw-away for his second interception.
All the younger guys are contributing today, hey?
Jason Allen with 2 ints!!!! Thanks Nick!
people time to jump off the jason Allen bust bandwagon !!
Jason....PRO BOWL!!!!!
2 picks by Allen in the redzone. Too bad he couldn't keep from going out of bounds.
Jason Allen= "MAN ON FIRE"!
Last punt return I remember seeing was Tommy Vigorito against the Steelers about 25 years ago.
Alleluia!
Matt in NC
OMG, Jason Allen, I'm just loving this the haters will be hanging themselves after this
SURELY . . . the apocalype is upon us!!! Jason Allen -- 2 ints!! Wow!
2 picks for Jason Allen and a TD return from Teddy....Man, if Cam had only listened to me earlier ;)
In 2008 the dolphins will be CONTENDA's!
Martin was open up the seam on second down, but Beck went to Chatman. Oh well.
good call b officials to not call a safety. Chatman was clearly at the 1 yard line.
Horrible punt by Fields. Philly ball at the Miami 36 yard line.
Oh god don't tell me
Yeah you can see how incomeptent Cam and Mueller are. Just terrible...Should we stil Can Can Cam? Hmmmm? Anybody screaming for Quinn?
is this game online?
Mondo, shouldn't have Allen let the ball go instead - the Dolphins got horrible field position and it would have been better to make them punt? But Allen finally showing something is big too
Cmon Porter he is a quarterback don't be a wuss nail that dude
One of the things the Dolphins have to address on defense is their speed. Teams could never run wide on the Dolphins in the past. But QBs are easily getting outside on the defense vs. Miami this year.
DO NOT! DO NOT LET WESTBROOK OUTSIDE, KEEP HIM BETWEEN THE TACKLES! REMEMBER PHILLY IS GOING AGAINST THE WIND! ALL THEY HAVE IS THE SCREEN TO WESTBROOK
Okay, for you folks who say "Cam should have put Beck and Ginn in earlier" -- two things: First, they weren't ready earlier and second . . . this game ain't over yet!! Plenty of time for them to screw it up!!
Man that was a nice run by Westbrook.
fernando
You have to take the pic
It messes with McNabbs head
if you have sopcast installed, you can get it.. watching now from down under.
Come on defense make a play
I do have sopcast, just don't see the game listed.
Dolphins blitz the house. McNabb is down. Lehan hit him hard.
Thank you Dom Capers for starting to use the blitzing, attacking defense we all expected starting with Week 1.
LETS GIVE SOME PROPS TO LEHAN! HES BEEN ALL OVER THE PLACE TO DAY, WAY TO GO LEHAN!
LETS GIVE SOME PROPS TO LEHAN! HES BEEN ALL OVER THE PLACE TO DAY, WAY TO GO LEHAN!
DOWN UNDER!
sitting in freezing europe!
where on sopcast is it? i cant find it!!!!
Vienna Fan
GO FINS
LETS GIVE SOME PROPS TO LEHAN! HES BEEN ALL OVER THE PLACE TO DAY, WAY TO GO LEHAN!
LETS GIVE SOME PROPS TO LEHAN! HES BEEN ALL OVER THE PLACE TO DAY, WAY TO GO LEHAN!
what sopcast channel are you using?
whats the address on sopcast?
Didnt we have 2 punters in camp yet only let Fields see any game activity? So much for open competition
WHAT CHANNEL ON SOPCAST!!!!!!!!!!!
McNabb headed for the locker room. Yup, it's A.J. Feeley against Miami if McNabb is out.
For the 15th time, what channel is it on on Sopcast? I cant find it...
I ALSO HAVE SOPCAST, CANT FIND GAME PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
Are you seriously complaining about punting competition? If you want to carry two punters on the 53-man roster, then you are crazy.
Screen is a good call, but it was smelled out by the defense. Can't complain about that.
Hey way to go, running out of people to have a go at, now the punter gimmee a break. Please tell me we gonna get a shot at AJ Feeley, this is gettin better
hey aussie!
puhhh - lease!
pretty please, the sopcast channel!
vienna fan!
Beck throws behind Hagan on third down. Rich Gannon is killing Beck on the broadcast. Are you guys listening?
Rick gannon is a hater, my god
McNabb is having X-rays taken on his ankle.
trying to, Armando.
if somebody would give up the SOPCAST CHANNEL
PickSix A.J. is in the game for Philly. Your confidence should be much higher now.
Any chance Larry Siepel could come out of retirement?
hey its a aj feeley
No I dont want 2 punters on the 53 man roster. But I would like competition in camp rather than just GIVING the job to someone because we used (wasted) a draft pick on him
Mando, in general, what did Gannon say? Bad? I am limited to just internet right now. Thanks...
Rich Gannon isa hater; Beck is not making good plays. He's not seeing the whole field, he's panicking and he's not settled.
Good Lord, AJ Feely in.. hopefully he doesn't have the game that Duante did against us. KEEP BLITZING!!!
Sorry -- Rich Gannon is NOT being a hater; he's telling the truth. Beck not getting it done.
Didn't it take Rich Gannon about 10 years to become a good qback? How was his first start?
I dont think Gannon is killing him. He's telling it like it is. Beck so far isnt having a good game. Which should be expected considering its his 1st start. There are flashes of hope, mu much improvement is needed
True Story about Feeley:
While the Dolphins were struggling in 2004, the year they were 4-12, Jay Fielder beat him out early in the season.
He started complaining to media memeber about how stupid Dave Wannstedt was and how much better a coach Andy Reid and his system were. He was right, of course. But the point is, you don't make those complaints to people outside the team.
Lightweight.
Beck looks like sh*t! This is horrible, he's horrible. Call me when Cam-moron is fired, Wayne H. sells the team, and no QB on the roster is named "Lemon" or "Beck." Beck's not the future, Quinn may have been.
Porter was right -- CLEARLY Shelton pushed off!! Refs didn't call it. That's the breaks.
Porter was right, there was a big push off. Beck isn't getting it done? give me a break. Its his first start, in Philly, on a cold and rainy day. No pick, no sacks. In all? pretty good start for the rookie.
In general, Gannon is talking about how inaccurate Beck has been. How he is having happy feet. And how his footwork is off.
Man, that secondary is playing its heart out today.
great plays at big times this never happens to us
where did this come from
Hey disgruntled, only one moron on here, take a look in the mirror with comments like that
You can always count on A.J. Feeley for two or three interception.
Hey, how about Feely completing a pass to a Dolphin? Cool hey?
good point mondo i am just so used to people leaving here and do well it nice to see we didn't mess that one up
Same old AJ!!!
so glad feelgood is playing for philly!!!!
Beck was going to Ginn on that pass before the snap even happened. Bad decision-making.
Hi, I'm a retard Dolphin fan from "down under" who announces to everyone that he's watching the game on Sopcast...but then won't tell anyone which channel I found it on when everyone asks. Thats me!
i don't know about anyone else but i was getting really happy when we were seeing ginn beck i could get used to it nice to see them at least try to go deep
I disagree with ANY defense of Beck right now. "it's his first start; it's cold; it's rainy" WHATEVER, people!!! Lemon had to play in some pretty bad conditions too. Cam sat Lemon who was LOSING games for us and was improving in my opinion; so I EXPECT Beck to light it up! He's not; he sucks so far! Lemon did better in his first start and I think listening to you Beck-loving idiots was the worse mistake Cam has made so far.
Disgruntled...go find another team loser!
JinVA
Ok, I'm only going to beg once more...if any of you are watching the game on SOPCAST, any of you in the U.S., over the pond in the U.K., or even down under, please, for the last & final time, post the SOPCAST channel so that some of us may also enjoy the game. I'm stuck with the Giants vs Lions here in NY.
Please and thank you.
Derek Hagan MUST MUST MUST come donw with that long pass. You have to fight for it and make a play.
how are we 5th in nfl vs the pass on d????? did they not count the ones against 44 cuz he is white???
Gotta give the Dolphins defense some credit. This quarter has been played almost entirely at THEIR end of the field.
WHY ARE WE NOT RUNNING THE BALL!!!???
HORRIBLE THROW BY BECK!!! This guy needs to be sat if we're gonna have a chance to win this very winnable game! He could've even ran for a first down if he had ANY field presence at all! I'm not impressed, guys!
derek hagan suck, but we knew already
Man, Gannon is ripping Beck. I thought that last throw to Hagan wasn't that bad. He put it in a spot where Hagan could have made the catch
Gannon is terrible...He is hating on Beck as if he were beat out for the job by him.
Jason Taylor is playing much harder today. he seems invigorated, which of course, raises the question about his desire the past few weeks.
Our D is playing their A$$ OFF for kid Beck!
Blitz again. Excellent. Excellent. But again, frustrating that Dom Capers didn't do more of this the first seven games of the season.
D is playing AWESOME!!!!
Gannon you suck!!!! You hater!
For perspective, Becks stats were better than McNabs while McNab was playing.
it feels like we are blitzing 80% of the time sound about right?
Let me add better than McNabs and Feeleys together. Is Gannon ripping those veterans? Regardless of the perfomance, Beck is statistically the best qb on the field today.
You guys (who refuse to put in your names..) who are now saying that "beck sucks and beck should sit" are completely wrong. He hasn't taken a sack, hasn't thrown a pick, hasn't fumbled. Already, that is a drastic improvment from Lemon. The fact is that he is a rookie making his first start. deal with it, I like what I see, he shows some promise.
Sorry, Ken -- no consolation that Beck's stats are better than McNabb's; Miami's Defense is playing better than Philly's also. Beck is not making makeable plays. And that pass to Hagain WAS NOT, I repeat WAS NOT a good or "decent" pass. It was late and behind a streaking receiver downfield. It was a BAD PASS . . . period! Stop defending Beck's horrible play, folks! Gannon is telling the truth!
Hey HDC Go 2 a sports bar ,they have all the games
Give Beck a break. Its his first game in crappy weather and hostile crowd.
It also doesnt help that they have to pass every 2nd and 3rd down because the running game sucks. Philly knows whats coming.
I agree 100 percent with scott
Mando,
With all that has been written about Quinn/Beck, Lemon/Beck, 0-9, all the fan bashing...Do you think this has put more pressure on Beck to be super hero or do you think he is professional enough to ignore all that stuff?
If any of you expected Beck to do any better than he is doing right now in his first start, you need to evaluate yourself. He is a rookie. He has not turned the ball over and we have the lead at the half. I couldn't ask for anything more.
All you people hating on Beck are complete and utter morons, and a disgrace to fans everywhere! The guy is making his first start, in the rain, on the road, against one of the better D's in the league. He's thrown 3 very good passes to Ginn! Let the kid LEARN you impatient idiots!
JinVA
And POST YOUR NAME at the end of your posts so we know who to dish the crow out to when your time comes...because it WILL.
Just like it did w/Ronnie!
Just like it is w/GINN!
Just like it is w/J. ALLEN (by the way...I'm included in this one...good thing I have a good appetite!)
Just like it will w/BECK!
JinVA
Hey anonymous basher...
I was not defending Beck in anyway, just pointing out two veteran qbacks even have worse stats. Maybe its the weather, maybe it isn't, don't know, just commenting. I will however defend Beck only to the point that it is absurd for Gannon to be bashing a rookie making his very first start. How many qbacks were stellar in their first start? Maybe none.
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